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Join us as Cebu City Councilor Mikel Rama reflects on his first year in office, growing up in a political family, and the lessons that shaped his journey.
From tackling traffic and flooding to how young leaders can drive real change, Mikel shares his vision for Cebu City’s future. Don’t miss this insightful conversation! 👀
Join us as Cebu City Councilor Mikel Rama reflects on his first year in office, growing up in a political family, and the lessons that shaped his journey.
From tackling traffic and flooding to how young leaders can drive real change, Mikel shares his vision for Cebu City’s future. Don’t miss this insightful conversation! 👀
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01:30Today, DJ, on Beyond the Headlines, we sit down with Cebu City Councilor Mikel Rama.
01:36As he reflects on his first year in office, the first few months, we'll talk about his journey as one of the youngest members of the City Council growing up in a political family and the lessons he has learned so far.
01:51We will also hear his thoughts on pressing issues affecting Cebu City, from traffic and flooding to the role of young leaders in shaping long-term solutions, plus his vision for the city's future and how he hopes to make an impact during his term.
02:11Good afternoon.
02:13Good afternoon, attorney.
02:14Hi, good afternoon.
02:16Good afternoon, sir, DJ.
02:19Good afternoon.
02:20Good afternoon sa tanananan nao din ha.
02:22So, how are you so far, Councilor Mikel, the first two months as City Councilor of Cebu City?
02:37Before I go through the question, allow me to just to thank Sunstar, of course, Ma'am Mildred and Sir DJ for having me here on your program.
02:46Hopefully, it will be valuable or meaningful insights that will be valuable to the people.
02:55So, the first question is about the first two months.
03:00You know, I'm very happy that this experience is positive.
03:04Thank you very much for the long-term support that will also appeal to an institution that is the Sanguniang Panglungsod.
03:13To be with my colleagues there as a collegial body and doing our work for the benefit of our constituencies here in the city of Cebu.
03:23So, thank you very much for your experience.
03:26So far, the first two months.
03:28So, it's hot in politics when you join the WA on Colors.
03:33You're just one collegial body.
03:35As expected, when we took our oath of office, we undertake to be stewards of the interests of the people.
03:45So, regardless of political colors, and there in the Council,
03:50we, when we interact with each other,
03:53we have an understanding that, although,
03:57it's hard to say,
03:59it's hard to say,
04:00it's hard to say,
04:01it's hard to say,
04:02it's hard to say,
04:03it's hard to say,
04:04it's hard to say.
04:05So, you are a lawyer, no?
04:08Yes.
04:09And you're not a stranger, also,
04:11when it comes to politics, no?
04:13But now that you are deeply immersed,
04:16as a public servant,
04:18were there any surprises or mga discoveries, no?
04:22that you are seeing now more than before?
04:26Not so much as surprises,
04:28but you can only see the reality of being there as a public official,
04:36that you are here at City Hall.
04:38What I just saw is that,
04:40I respect you to the current employees here at City Hall,
04:46the career service personnel,
04:48even the non-career service personnel,
04:52that you are a lot of people who are in the city hall,
04:55that you can see as a public official,
04:58that it's very important to the role
05:01to the local government unit.
05:04So, I saw that,
05:06that I have a lot of experience
05:09or a lot of experience
05:11to the nitty-gritty
05:13in the day-to-day operations of the local government.
05:18I just like to go back at
05:27what I think is that,
05:29Attorney Mikael,
05:31as elected officials,
05:32they are the stalwarts,
05:33protecting them.
05:35So,
05:36if you have a mindset,
05:41you have a passion,
05:43you have to do it in the Senate or Congress?
05:46No?
05:47So,
05:48maybe,
05:49no,
05:50it's just so overwhelming
05:53that,
05:55what I feel is that,
05:57it's a betrayal of trust.
06:00So,
06:01all of them are impeachable,
06:02in a way,
06:03but,
06:04On that note,
06:05Mamilde,
06:06I think,
06:07they got beyond the headlines.
06:09What happened?
06:10What happened?
06:12What happened?
06:13What happened?
06:14What happened?
06:15Yes.
06:16So,
06:17okay.
06:18Now,
06:19I know,
06:20politics is not new to you,
06:21and,
06:22your family is,
06:24your family,
06:25your father,
06:26your family,
06:27your abogado,
06:28and,
06:29you're really into,
06:30providing help to the marginalized
06:32and the underprivileged.
06:34Earlier,
06:35the problem,
06:37the city can help,
06:40on consumer protection.
06:43Is this under your committee?
06:45The city,
06:47Mangud,
06:48has a very broad,
06:49authority,
06:50that,
06:51I'm sure,
06:52those are familiar with the General Welfare Clause,
06:55that,
06:56if,
06:57if,
06:58one of the residents,
06:59in the city,
07:00as a authority,
07:01the local government unit,
07:02it looks like the government unit.
07:04So,
07:05as regards this concern,
07:06this dimension of the air,
07:07as long as,
07:09it affects residents of the city,
07:11or,
07:12if it,
07:13happens within the territory,
07:14it happens within the territorial jurisdiction,
07:16naagyod na,
07:17katungud ang,
07:18city na,
07:19muintervene.
07:20Even if it's in,
07:21within the jurisdiction of another government agency,
07:23or,
07:24like,
07:25as long as,
07:26affected,
07:27our,
07:28our constituents,
07:29or,
07:30or,
07:31they live,
07:32or they residing in Cebu City.
07:33Yes,
07:34as long as,
07:35it affects the,
07:36health,
07:37safety,
07:38well-being,
07:39concern,
07:40or interest,
07:41sa Cebu City,
07:42ang welfare,
07:43naagy katungud ang,
07:44local government unit,
07:45na mulok into.
07:46Ang,
07:47ito bang,
07:48ito bang,
07:49local council,
07:50do we have,
07:51investigative powers,
07:53like what the senate is doing?
07:54Not strictly investigative,
07:56but,
07:57we have,
07:58the authority to call,
07:59sessions,
08:00executive sessions,
08:02to call things,
08:03of public interest.
08:04public interest.
08:05So,
08:06it can be closed door,
08:07if,
08:08it involves,
08:09sensitive matters.
08:10But,
08:11it can also be public.
08:12Like,
08:13earlier this morning,
08:14pertaining to,
08:15the policy sa LTO,
08:17katong,
08:18na issue na,
08:19katong,
08:20nandakop sila,
08:21wapay,
08:22plates.
08:23Oh,
08:24no plates,
08:25no travel.
08:26No plates,
08:27no travel.
08:28So,
08:29the,
08:30mga representatives sa dealers,
08:31o sa,
08:32ang LTO was given the opportunity to,
08:34um,
08:35answer questions,
08:36posed by mga members sa Sanggunian,
08:39o to clarify,
08:40na unsay nahitabo dito.
08:41So,
08:42mo ito yung nahitabo,
08:43na ilang na-clarify,
08:44na dili di siya,
08:45ah,
08:46no plate,
08:47no travel.
08:48It's actually,
08:49no registration,
08:50no travel.
08:51So, dapat,
08:52dili,
08:53di man sila ka-control daw,
08:54saka ito yung mga,
08:55pag-issue sa mga plates pa.
08:56Ba't ka nang,
08:57ilaha,
08:58to avoid confusion,
08:59ka nang,
09:00no tayo lang i-clarify na,
09:01registration di ang,
09:02kailangan.
09:03Bito,
09:04kaya kibisag wala pa kay plate,
09:05inigawa sa imong sakyanan,
09:06i-rehistro mong ginya siya,
09:07di ba?
09:08So,
09:09it's very,
09:10the number one step,
09:11kay ang plate,
09:12atopas Manila,
09:13dili eh,
09:14kanang,
09:15kanang langgod nga,
09:16ang sanang,
09:172017 pa ba na doon,
09:18ang mga plates,
09:19ang sanang,
09:20ginabulawan din ang mga plates,
09:21sa kadanggan,
09:22sa sakyanan,
09:23kalibutan.
09:24Anyway,
09:25DJ.
09:26What other,
09:27kinang,
09:29chairmanship,
09:30ano,
09:31if we call it that way,
09:32that you also hold,
09:33as a first-time counselor?
09:34Yes,
09:35I'm so fortunate to be,
09:37kanang,
09:38given by the body,
09:40kai-elect mana,
09:41during the inaugural session,
09:43um,
09:44chairmanship on,
09:45the committee on laws,
09:46the committee on housing,
09:47as well as,
09:48the committee on employment,
09:50livelihood,
09:51and cooperatives.
09:53labor,
09:54employment,
09:55cooperatives,
09:56and livelihood.
09:57So,
09:58the committee on laws,
09:59it's a critical committee,
10:01so,
10:02there's no ordinance,
10:03to be reviewed,
10:04or to be reviewed,
10:05from the committee on laws.
10:06Yes, that's correct.
10:07Yes.
10:08Don't forget,
10:09the city hall.
10:11Anyway,
10:12Kanisha,
10:13kanang,
10:14aside to your father,
10:16who are the leaders,
10:18you look up to?
10:19Yes,
10:20as I mentioned,
10:21ganina,
10:22nakatong,
10:23ako nakita bitaw,
10:24sa pagsuhod na ko diya,
10:25sa panirbisyo,
10:26kanang,
10:27nitaas,
10:28gugmayo akong respeto,
10:29sa kaning,
10:30atong mga frontline government personnel.
10:32So,
10:33agkaroon,
10:34ako nakitaan,
10:35bisag sa,
10:36at the barangay level,
10:37makita ni mo,
10:38kung kanang,
10:39kung unsagin kabugat ang,
10:40trabaho sa,
10:41kaning mga barangay based frontline personnel,
10:43sama sa mga barangay health workers,
10:45barangay nutrition scholars,
10:47mga,
10:48barangay tanod,
10:49mga,
10:50daycare workers,
10:51ah,
10:52daycare workers,
10:53kinsa pa na sila,
10:54mga garbage holders.
10:55Yeah,
10:56the garbage people.
10:57O kanang atong mga volunteers sa,
10:58ah,
10:59disaster,
11:00na mogi mo responde sa mga,
11:02kaning calamities,
11:03especially,
11:04karoon na panahon sa,
11:05baha,
11:06o kanang,
11:07kusog na pag-uwan.
11:08Kanang,
11:09grabe kayo nga ko,
11:10ang pag-look up to nila,
11:11na dililalim ang,
11:13ang ilahang trabaho na,
11:14ang atua as a whole,
11:16pag-responde sa,
11:17government services,
11:18kanang,
11:19hindi yun mudagan,
11:20kung wala ni sila mga,
11:22mga,
11:23frontline personnels.
11:25Which is very true.
11:27So,
11:28kanang,
11:29with regards to your father,
11:32no,
11:33he's also the former mayor of Cebu City,
11:35kanang,
11:36I believe he also gave you personal advices growing up,
11:40no?
11:41So now that you're into public service,
11:43what can you remember,
11:44about one particular advice,
11:46that he gave you in the past,
11:47that now that you're here,
11:49serving,
11:50it already makes so much sense this time.
11:53Simple,
11:54lakaya na siya.
11:55I advise na ako,
11:56kada magsuri amin sa,
11:57mangumusta.
11:58Excuse me,
11:59mangumusta,
12:00magwinanan siya na ako,
12:01mungusta na ang Kadija,
12:02ako siya sturyaan.
12:03Mingora siya,
12:04trabaho lang.
12:05Kung ringinigun,
12:06trabaho lang.
12:07eh,
12:08trabaho lang.
12:09So, with that, you just have to work. As one of the younger voices in the City Council,
12:16what do you see as your role in shaping solutions in Cebu's problems?
12:22And in the future, what do you see as a number one problem that we have to solve?
12:31For me, you both, it's a priority that needs to be addressed.
12:35If you're thinking about the same composition in Cebu's problems, it's a mix of new fights.
12:44We're in a mix of old timers.
12:49But are you already veterans?
12:51You're already adults.
12:54You're already adults.
12:58It's a mix of collegiality.
13:07As young people who are eager to challenge the status quo.
13:12To see how things could be improved.
13:16You don't want to be able to change the energy.
13:21You don't want to change the status quo.
13:25You want to be tempered in the experience of the country.
13:29It's grounded in reality.
13:31So, it's a good balance.
13:33And as regards to the importance of Mildred regarding one of the biggest problems that I can see.
13:42I can see that you have challenges, but the symptoms are the biggest problems.
13:50It's not a big problem.
13:52It's not a big problem.
13:53It's a big concern that you work on.
13:55Muna ang concern sa kawadun.
13:57It's really poverty.
13:59Poverty o social inequality.
14:02Socio-economics.
14:04Muna ang important.
14:05I also wanted to discuss if I had the opportunity here on this platform.
14:09Na bing osaka-abogado.
14:12Dugay kami mga abogado.
14:14Influence ma kami sa ideals o social justice.
14:17Na kanang enduring na precept na
14:23Those who have less in life should have more in law.
14:26Muna ang nakatunan sa mong pag-aabogado.
14:29Muna ang ideal nga ang balaod.
14:33It should never become a weapon for the powerful, but rather a shield.
14:37A shield for the weak.
14:38For the powerless.
14:40For the powerless.
14:41So muna ang malipayan kay ko for having this opportunity, especially
14:46being part of the local legislative body.
14:49To have the opportunity to craft policies in line with that ideal.
14:54And to confront kanyang concern na ito.
14:58Na it's really a matter of the lack of social justice within our society.
15:03Muna na.
15:04Muna na.
15:05Muna na.
15:06Muna na.
15:07Muna na.
15:08Muna na.
15:09Muna na ng utaghansad ang crime.
15:10Yes.
15:11Mix well.
15:12Bina na.
15:13Yung Columbus is in balance
15:14In balance.
15:15Now, talking of social injustice o kanang equality.
15:19I know that you recently passed an ordinance on Free legal aid ordinance.
15:24ordinance. Where is it now? And what is the concept?
15:28Yes, the free legal aid ordinance, we took the opportunity to file it at the earliest possible time
15:37so that there is a public hearing. So I'm so grateful that during the last public hearing,
15:44I think that was two weeks ago, I participated in IBP Cebu City.
15:51My close friend, Attorney Grace Casano, who is the Executive Director for Legal Aid,
15:56as well as the City Legal Office that attended to Attorney Christine Batukan
16:01and some of them, they had their own insights for the amendments of the ordinance.
16:07But really, the point of the ordinance is to drive home the sense that access to justice
16:14is not just the burden of one singular institution.
16:19It is the collective responsibility of all stakeholders, not just the judiciary,
16:24but also the local government of Cebu.
16:27You will be able to support the innovative programs in the Supreme Court,
16:36the Unified Legal Aid Service, the Clinical Legal Education Program.
16:43So ang tumong sa itong gefile na measure, which is pending second reading in the council now,
16:49is to asa maka-appeal ang Cebu City government to support these national mandates
16:55so that access to justice may be able to access to people in the community.
17:04So can you elaborate more on the how?
17:07The how is, if you're familiar with the Unified Legal Aid Service rule,
17:13it is new that it passed, I think, mga two years ago, a year ago lang,
17:18every lawyer is required within a certain period, I think yearly,
17:25to render 60 hours of free legal aid.
17:28Ah, mura siya ka ng like, for example, our nurses,
17:31that they're not allowed to go abroad unless nakaserve.
17:34That's new, right?
17:35Yeah, bago na siya.
17:36Dapat ka 60 hours na as a programa na gipas ang
17:41ang Supreme Court about sa mga law students na kailangan sa ka as part of your curriculum
17:48na mo render ka certain number of hours of also legal aid.
17:54So ka na unify lang na tanan.
17:56So kanyang mga lawyers na mo render o legal aid, requirement na siya before?
18:01Yeah, mo po na ko nadunggan.
18:03Para ma-renew ang imuhang imong license na maka-practice ka.
18:07So now it's a matter of integrating the efforts.
18:10So ma-ma-ma-ma-high roller ka nga abogado or you're a newbie,
18:14everybody has to go through.
18:16Yes.
18:17Pinduot na siya.
18:18I've heard also of similar measures also in the past.
18:25So how can the public even avail if ever ma-approve ni Ginesha?
18:30So how can the public or especially those nga wala kayo eh resources no?
18:35For kanyang good lawyers to defend them.
18:38So how can they better access this kind of service now?
18:42That's the point of our measure.
18:44Kaya ang IBP na na sila existing but they need support regarding the intake.
18:50So itong i-propose sa itong ordinance na gitan-aupak sa feasibility niya is to have
18:56ka ng intake or referral desks at the barangay level.
19:01So dito na muduhol ang mga tao na i-concern.
19:04Very basic ang barangay.
19:06Barangay ang bita mo so good, diba?
19:08Pero based sa itong conversation ganina, ma'am Mildred,
19:10mas may siguro magbutang sa medyan niya sa sadyo.
19:14Sadyo na muduhol mga tao.
19:16Manguhaming consultant from your office nga.
19:19Atong isagutan ng problema,
19:20add to mo atong pultahan na kaya natin itong mediation dito.
19:24Who is naraba ni sila ma'am Mildred, si sir DJ?
19:29I think, Bitao,
19:31siguro ang local government to amplify your projects
19:39because dili man sila kabalo.
19:42So when they feel helpless and everything, they go to the media.
19:46We're not saying you don't come to us.
19:48You can come to us, we can help you connect.
19:50We will always be the bridge for the public and the LGU.
19:53But it's, mas may magunang mo bridge ka sa naana nga project
19:57kaysa mo bridge ka ka,
19:59asa man ni ni Muda doon?
20:00Asa man ang end sa imong bridge?
20:02Sakto nga.
20:03So, kuwan kayo siya?
20:05Especially yun ang kaning kay Kibogita nga mahal,
20:07kay mga mga tatag-abugado roon.
20:09Masakto.
20:10Same as kaning current problem among gitry o taba nga.
20:16Problema na ganit sila kaya sila na buy,
20:18na uliin sa ilang investment,
20:20going to court is another cost.
20:23And another anxiety ba?
20:26Grabe bitaw ba't ka nang,
20:28if naani nga avenues,
20:30nakukig kayo ni siya tabang for Cebu City residents.
20:32And the good thing about this, if past, no?
20:35At least from my observation,
20:37is it's no longer just an outreach project by organizations.
20:42We're doing this because it's the day for law and justice,
20:50but it's a regular thing.
20:52It's institutionalized.
20:54Yes.
20:55Tinood yun na.
20:56Tinood yun na.
20:57Murag.
20:58Nakadungog ko anang katong pag-public hearing ninyo nga,
21:01na naman di ay existing nga, kuwan.
21:03It's just a matter of, you know,
21:05Murabasag ka nang sa malasakit.
21:07Ang malasakit kaya naka,
21:09kuwan man gugok ka nang how they work.
21:11Dilip man na siya,
21:12it's not an office,
21:13but it's a gathering.
21:15Natatanan.
21:16Butang ranyatanan diya ang mga agencies na directly involved.
21:20Ikaw nga pasyente.
21:21Dilip na kami still.
21:22Muli niya pa dito.
21:23Muli niya pa dito.
21:24Muli niya pa dito.
21:25Nasakit ganit ka.
21:27So, you're in pain or you're in convenience
21:29na maglinya ka.
21:30Gibutang na sila in one agency.
21:32So, everything.
21:33There's no ano.
21:34Same as this one.
21:35Kanang.
21:36Muado na lang ka dito.
21:37Huwag kang priority number.
21:39Pwede na.
21:40Kanang.
21:41Dilip na kami ito nga.
21:42Daganan.
21:43At Townsend sa ato nga dikhebao.
21:45Asamdagan.
21:46Naabakoy.
21:47Naabakoy ka daganan.
21:49So, we hope mapasar nga ordinan
21:52so that you know this is
21:54mo giniimong answer sa
21:56the less privilege.
21:58They have a say to the government.
22:02Ang government is taking care of them.
22:04So, I think
22:06kanisad na conversation before we move to the one
22:08is related.
22:09Okay, those who have less
22:12or those who have less in-law will have more
22:14or less power.
22:15Less in life should have more in-law.
22:17Same with healthcare.
22:19Yeah.
22:20Those who have less also should have better access also with healthcare.
22:23Yes.
22:24So, they're integrated.
22:25Ang ato lang yung taong hangyuan na.
22:27Atong pagpangamuyo.
22:29Ang atagaan din itag-ayudas goberno diin.
22:31Taong nato iparibad.
22:33Isan nato itagay sa kilid.
22:35Gay.
22:36Kana siya nga buhis.
22:38Hard-earned income in taong na sa middle class.
22:41Kanaan nanasag ko.
22:43Iyan ang iyan ang konfoccio na.
22:44An advocacy.
22:45An advocacy.
22:46No.
22:47Kanaan it's true.
22:48Kanaan let's.
22:49Kanaan kung asinso ang diri sa ubos.
22:53There's also the same motivation.
22:55So, kung musakan na sila.
22:56So, di na sila naasa ka tong poverty nga level.
23:00So, more na din.
23:01More ba ba ka nang magkadaghan ang masaka?
23:04So, daghan na itag mag-share sa tax na itong ihatag din ito.
23:07Or I think now that you're into that,
23:09Bamurag, angat lahat but not necessarily in the context of helping lang,
23:15but angat lahat in the context of the determination.
23:18Na musaka gita tanang.
23:19I uplift not just because you are.
23:22Kana bang tunol ba?
23:24Kanaan magudya nga?
23:25Kanaan siya nga idea ba nga?
23:26Kanaan huwat ka sa ayuda but there's no effort on your part nga.
23:30To rise.
23:31To graduate ko.
23:32Uy, hindi li forever nga tagaan lang ko.
23:34Kaya uhaw ka, ayaw ka.
23:35Inaanal sa doon taabitaw nga pag una-una usaha.
23:38Unang recurring hinanakit ni Mami.
23:40Recurring o.
23:41For like every chance nga musul na mga waskin na.
23:45Anyhow.
23:46Sige.
23:47Ay na ginagitrigger.
23:50Anyhow.
23:51Kaya kato mo go back ta sa katong,
23:53you are among the fresh and new entrance to the city council.
24:00But some people, they also think na pag bago, less experience.
24:06But there's also the other side which I just said.
24:09Na kung bago, there's also a new contribution.
24:12No?
24:13So how do you balance that?
24:14No?
24:15The perceived lack of experience and the value that you bring.
24:19I think kato lagi.
24:21It's really, it's not about ka na, mayung ka na, negative na siya.
24:26It's when you look at public servants or officials or personalities in government as individuals.
24:32I always look at it as, ka nang as an institution.
24:36So if you're, if you come there as fresh and experienced, but naakay ka na makontribute, na naay trade-off of being less experienced, you plug into and complement the existing framework of the institution.
24:50So dapat ang, ang investment is really on the institution.
24:55Like Samua, na sangguniang pang lungsod.
24:57It's not an individual counselor.
24:59But it's a collegial body.
25:01That's why I mentioned na, na yung mga batanon, na yung mga bago na nagdaog energy, nagdaog innovation.
25:07But nindot kayo kani-complement sa amung mga kauban na dugay na dito, mas laham na o experience.
25:13So altogether, nindot na kayo ang institution na positive ang effect niya.
25:19So mura siya o ka nang, they're bringing in a new perspective for the adult, for the adult, for the veterans na may not have seen it on their perspective, but could have helped ba.
25:37Kaya pariyo na po na sa newsroom ka nang, ang mga gors na mga journalist, di kayo ka-guets ka, so parang pag-tiktok-ing na, mamamanggit kayo na.
25:47But that's, that's just how the way they are.
25:50It's just a matter how you inject education and information in that platform.
25:56Which is also, I'm also glad that because in public service, we're also seeing more multi-generational.
26:01Yes.
26:02Kanang team compositions because, yes, some people look at it as a disadvantage because of the struggle.
26:07But it's also an advantage because of the experience and the perspective they can leverage.
26:12Okay, ma'am said na, if there's, kanis siya nga mix, parang ako, kanang, maay siya.
26:17Kaya gano, kanang, it's experience and new perspective.
26:23Kung imo siyang, muhatag siya ang experience, muhatag o context sa new ideas ba nga.
26:28Nice na imong idea, but we have to be realistic nga, wak tay bottomless nga, budget.
26:34So kanang, sa toto niya nga, kanang mo-temper sa aggressiveness bitaw.
26:38But nindot nga, naa-aggressive ang atong existing kanang council rather than kanang murag.
26:44Well, you just go to, kung sa inaandan kanang,
26:47Cebu City is a very, it's a growing, it's a highly urbanized city niya.
26:52Kanang, mga hambugid taong ta, no?
26:55Mga hambugid ang tatangan, nakasasyudad sa sugbo.
26:59So, do you have, or can you cite a, ko lang, for the benefit of our viewers also,
27:04a particular initiative, no?
27:06Or a particular discussion that's ongoing in the council right now
27:10that's also demonstrating this kind of dynamics, no?
27:15Among the more tenured councilors and also the new ones.
27:20Yes.
27:22I think ako masight, I think sa ako ang, kanina ko mga proposed ordinances,
27:27na, na ay mga discussions na makita ninyo na,
27:32na ma-acknowledge sila sa noble intent, but then,
27:35makita nila ang mga concerns na, na-encounter.
27:39In the past.
27:40In the past na, like sa legal aid ordinance na,
27:43ka nang, kung yung mong ibutang sa barangay,
27:48basig mo conflict niya sa lupon.
27:51Kaya, di ba, if lawyer ka, di ba, maka dapat na sa lupon.
27:55Sa lupon.
27:56Kaya, gana naman ka magka amicable settlement.
27:59If na ay abogado dito, basig mo diritsuna o disperience.
28:03So, kanyang mga ingon-anak na mga grounded on realities,
28:06nindot kayo siya na, bitaw, no? Makaingon ka ba?
28:10Ang exchange ba?
28:11Natuod, wakna ninyo na kita, but because of their experience.
28:14Yes.
28:15O, dugay na, kita na sila na,
28:17muning nahitabo na mo sa una.
28:19Muning nahitabo, basig pindi na niyong ma-adjust
28:22to take into account na muning,
28:24possibly or most likely, scenario na mahitabo.
28:27Kaya kita naman sila, ana.
28:29Nindudson na siya.
28:30Kaya, bisan man tulog abogado,
28:32pero ang mindset sa abogado nga mo, duty dito,
28:35is really to win-win solution ba nga.
28:37Sige, ato sa nang iagay dito, slope on.
28:39Kung mo magkasinabot, balik dire kay,
28:41ako kang ibuk or dsaba.
28:45Ibuk ta ka dire.
28:47Sa akong 60 hours nga free service.
28:50So, what about in the area of kanang traffic ba?
28:56Because, Kabalumantanga,
28:57there are a lot of efforts that's being done also by the executive branch.
29:02On the legislative branch ba?
29:05What bold moves, Mansad, or new approaches that we are going to be able to expect from the council,
29:16now that this is a better, more balanced group?
29:21I think also we need to, in terms of traffic and kaneng achievement that might, that we expect to have positive impacts on our traffic,
29:30we need to acknowledge also the efforts of the previous sanggunian.
29:34Because what they were able to do was to pass the comprehensive land use plan and the updated zoning ordinance.
29:41Kaneng mga yingunani has a profound effect, ang zoning,
29:45Kaneng mga yingunani has a profound effect on how the traffic.
29:49Manage our traffic.
29:50Because, ang traffic is not just a one-size-fits-all ba.
29:54Kaneng one-size-fits-all or kaneng usadaki solusyon.
29:57Kaneng yung mga yung s protect și thannân.
30:02Mag-agnize o isa na hammasm ang planning, sin hay zoning.
30:04I think should be the first as aって and I think this council can look at pw song next,
30:09component na atong mabutang, para holistik ang atong approach sa traffic.
30:15Kinaamay ka nang vulling traffic enforcement.
30:17That's one.
30:20Kinaamay ka na infrastructure.
30:21Na ay kanرة niOkay,
30:24with other local government units, intergovermental-
30:26intergovernmental relations with the national government these are a lot of
30:30different aspects now we come together to solve the issue on traffic I want to
30:38from traffic I want to move to housing housing is you're a member of that
30:43committee right yes so we can be miss more here we have I don't know before
30:50but this is getting condominiums there really has been a lot of problems with
30:58condos remember last year as your experience as a lawyer
31:07what agency do they go to the condos
31:12ang ilaha koan ramanggid kanang kanang no citizen is o kanang ina-aramgid ilaha
31:19kanang dili man pataas ilaha mo ba yes
31:22aninisha last year we had a group kanin sa Ramos na ilahang ilang water is 600 pesos per
31:38three cubic mahal kayo kasabutan na kurinti is mahal and ragnay dagang
31:46question with kanang ang developer o ang kadiba once nga naana na naman ay
31:53organization nga mumanage it's no longer the developer so naana siya nga
31:57conflict nga ongoing until today kapila na sila ni ato sa disod but kami
32:03sa kami mismo naka interview ko mismo ni attorney hontila before ninyo nga
32:06siya nga apparently the condo law doon sa condominium law wala ko nang iklaro
32:11naka stepping late sa inani nga klase yung nga problem but these these are
32:16cebu city residents who are affected who are ka nang kuwan ba elevator for
32:21example naka sa 28th floor niya guba ako sa ka elevators senior citizen
32:26ka i mean most of the people who are living in condos are really ka nang they
32:30live there because near sa hospital so saan lang na where do they go i think it's um
32:36i have to check but i think it's something that can be looked into by the
32:39committee on housing okay that there might be and i'm sure there are existing
32:44national laws and regulation that um that answers that but based on simong um
32:51guerrilla mamildred ang kineng mga national programs or rules if ever there are is not
32:57felt on the ground so there is a way for and it's the responsibility of the local government
33:03unit to make sure that these national um kineng framework of legal frameworks actually has
33:10implementations here within the locality so it's something that we can look into yes
33:15okay come on good and i mean it's it's the local process to the ground yeah like for example
33:20nag guba sa dan visa pagdili ang dpw na guba na ang dpwh na traffic ang awayo na na ang mayor
33:28mga huwag nga huwag nyo ka kabantay inidili nga nag bottleneck na but it's dpwh
33:33kaya na sya i think kung saan nasa sa akong pangutana beto mamildred kay ako mong gugitan
33:38ang local government code na agadiyat tanang infrastructure projects sa national government
33:43kailangan ginag council approval pero it never happened huwag na sya nahitabo example clear very
33:50clear example gila na si ma'am teresa aligado si mayor aligado sa konsulasyon sa pagmata pagkatuog
33:56niya pagkagabi i okay pa ilang dan pag gaugma nanay mga bulldozer naguba huwag sya
34:00kay bawag kinsa so nag ghost all traffic ni kinsang may giaway si mayor aligado siya i-blame
34:06not just the people ang constituents sa cebu city but all other people who use the road
34:12dili lang na even si former governor garcia ni nireklamo sa danana nga for national line
34:17agencies if ever nasla i-implement ka project huwag ginag siya na naka na nga provision
34:22sa local government code huwag ginag siya na ano i think that's the reason why mahitabo gin
34:27ng mga ghost projects kailangan ginag siya i-revisit kaya namig ipangutana na one
34:33sa usaka executive session ng dpwh ingon siya na uh under na kuno na siya sa national
34:39program na mupasar ka nang ikaabot sa budget huwag ay ko kasabot kaya magmawa
34:45manggod ang essence of the yes particularity sa project needed ba siya sa lgo example ang
34:51naitabo katong uh was it malabuyok sea wall nasla i-request sa 7th district oh okay oh
35:00ikaw nga na ikay congressman ikay mayor ikay kunsiho din na ikay may nakaibaw unsa ang infra
35:07requirements niya all of a sudden na ikay punduhan dito nga which it was not requested kinahalan
35:13maningawa kanaba disconnect it's a waste of government resources
35:18siguro na okay namang hindi naturo ng mga projects ngayon the protocol has to change
35:26there's no need for a new law there's already an existing law that makes sure the local government
35:32make sure na na i connect ang lgu o ag national so i think this is the the missing link in the
35:37conversation yeah there's supposed to be an existing mechanism na on that to manage that it's just a
35:44matter of i wasa sa ako na diskubrihan beto mamildred karun ka nang sa akong pagtrabaho din sa council
35:50nadagan kay mga national mandates na marisha na pag abot diri sa ground na distilled wala
35:57agad siya natarong mag-implement na ka nang based sa intent sa national so sana siya so aligned to this
36:04one ba because i think part of the what the new blood also brings is the the power of technology
36:10no so how natin mga plans on how to use technology to bridge ka ng gaps like this yes um and as i said
36:22before we start na sa dunas national mandates na um increase ang digitalization especially sa
36:29government transactions kay momana siya one one of the ways to curb kaneng corruption is to
36:35digitalize it less um human intervention intervention or discretion and i think nana na din ha oh
36:44among other things um i don't know if mga mga ka-reader si uh conswinston pepito na nanas
36:50sila ipang propose na pertaining to that yeah i think project with the mix oh sa mix okay the other
36:59thing mangood po na na discussed for okay even on the correct me if i'm wrong even in the local
37:04settings side morag we also observe there were already ordinances that were passed in our already
37:11approved in the past pero nagkulang lang ta in terms of enforcing them in the present so montana
37:18nga morag that's where technology could have also can come in i'm really looking forward for a cebu
37:26city nga ka nang if magpabook na lang ko ba ka nang if yeah like if i if i need to renew my if i need to
37:34pay for my real estate din ako maglinya na na booking system nga ka nusaka nakai schedule everything
37:41ka nang in anabitaw ka nang especially nga ka nang padong natas pagka senior you know
37:47ka nang smooth lang gidon taan transitions kitinood man na siya kung dugay kang naglinya
37:53din ha the longer you stay in a government facility na ipagura ni teks ang akong ka sin
38:12maam and they become vulnerable they need it or they don't have the energy or the time
38:18to be there.
38:20So, business permit transactions, if it's digitalized, it's just for you.
38:24What do you want to order online?
38:30You can order online, right? There's tracking.
38:32They've already left the airport, they've already reached the Kuan.
38:35So, Anna, if you file my business permit, you get to see the status.
38:40You get to see the status.
38:42You can't even get mad.
38:44I emailed my Kuan, I've already got my document.
38:47The other thing that I was also alluding to when it comes to technology,
38:52even in ordinances, I think we're all familiar with ChatGPT, no?
38:57I really thought that that kind of technology, open AI, can be leveraged also
39:02so that people don't have to ask Manong if the ordinance is there.
39:06But they just have to log in and key in, and I'm looking for something like this one.
39:11I was challenged in Cebu City, and it's not just Cebu City, all of the LGUs.
39:16There are some resolutions and ordinances.
39:19The other ones, maybe there were ordinances, but there were still ordinances.
39:24You have to...
39:26Chappie, Anna.
39:27Michael, Anna.
39:28There's a database, Anna, here.
39:31You can search it.
39:33You can search it.
39:34But hopefully, you can access it in public.
39:36In public, no?
39:37Ito.
39:38Okay, Murag, that will also help in the enforcement.
39:41No, Anna.
39:42No, no, no, no.
39:43Correct.
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40:34Ako na nasutoryaan ng mga head na nindot na kayo ilang momentum ito na their efforts to reaching out to ka ng mga private owners na nag-encroach sa mga waterways, na naanas sila yung negotiations on voluntarily tangtangon na ilang mga structures, ang mga tao na vulnerable living within the 3 meter is met.
41:02Pada yun naman ito ang response ito, makontinue lang, mahatagan balik o momentum. Existing naman ang structure sa pag-response sa problema sa baha. Pada yun nun lang yun na follow through o katagag more resources.
41:21Kaya ang dagahan manggod ka yung trabaho o niya, kuwang paog mga tao ba.
41:25Yes, kanagiyun, talking of baha ba, kanang walang gini nato sila, kanis silang mga tawana, walang gini nato sila nahatagan o igong pakpak, no?
41:34It's actually our river troopers. Kanang dili lalim yung ilang trabaho magtanaw, bitaw ka nga muubog ka, dili uke na tatong sapa.
41:42Di man na sapa atong sapa, kanal manggod na.
41:45So, with all the garbage and everything, the risk of masakit ka, kanang, ano, gig ko, saludo, gig ko sa atong river troopers to being there.
41:55I'm sure ilang, ilang, ilang sweldo, dili ni CEO level na sweldo, when in fact very dangerous ka yun ni ilang mga trabaho.
42:02But, kanis sila ang nag-make sure nga, katong mga dili pa maabot na yun sa desultation, kanis sila yung first level mo tang-tang sa, kanang mga floating na mga sagbot.
42:13Kanang sa taong-taong namuyo, diha dool sa mga water areas, kanang naamay mo kuliktag basura, no?
42:20Ato lang siya nang ipakulikta, din ito ilabay sa atong mga waterways.
42:25Kaya, luwi in taong kayo ang manglimpiyo.
42:28On that topic, Mamil, I also wanted to touch on sa kanang, regarding, na kanang, usually, mga kanang mga murispandi,
42:35kanang on the ground, kanang on the ground, kanang sa baha, na risgo kayo buis buhay ang trabaho.
42:40So, kanang closer na sa, something that I'm also passionate about is, kanang on sa on pag hatag o protection sa kaning atong mga workers,
42:51frontline workers in the public sector, sa barangay, o sa local government.
42:56Kaya, ako mga gunatan ako sa local, sa social justice, sa social legislation,
43:01ang usa kayo, dako kayo na step forward sa Pilipinas katong pagpasar sa labor code.
43:07Yes.
43:08Di ba, sa labor code na naghatag o welfare sa mga empleyado.
43:10Mga empleyado, protection.
43:12Akong kita nao ang legislative framework sa, in terms of sa public sector,
43:19walay corresponding ang public workers kumpara sa private sector.
43:25Kuwang kayo o social protections ang ato ang mga frontline.
43:28That also explains the surprising, kanang realization of the disparity, no?
43:34In terms of labor, law, kanang adherence sa private sector compared to the public sector.
43:41Yes.
43:41In example lang, DJ, in private sector, six months,
43:45bisang pagpapas na naingunin mo nga regular ka, automatic ka regular.
43:48Pero sa City Hall, para sila mo avoid sa, not just City Hall,
43:53para mo avoid sa six months, three months, three months ang contract.
43:56So, I think, naasad, na-interview na mo ang,
43:59saan na?
44:00Civil service.
44:01Civil service.
44:01Nangyuntun sila, it's because of the,
44:04ang dynamic sa operations sa LGU ba, nga lisod sa,
44:08kung imosyon na yung irregular, tanan.
44:10Kaya na, may mga trabaho nga, kanang,
44:12Seasonal.
44:13Kanang, by task ba?
44:15Project-based.
44:16Project-based.
44:16So, dili po.
44:17Hindi kayo kumusubscribe ba na, ma'am?
44:19Kaya sa private nam, si Sunalog Project.
44:21I was about to say that.
44:22Protected man yapon sila.
44:23Protected man sila.
44:24By a contract.
44:25For example, kani, atong,
44:27balik natas River Troopers,
44:30kanang,
44:31huli around naman siguro ang pag-uwan ka ron.
44:34I mean, why can't,
44:35kanang padayon yung taon silang GO?
44:37Egritar sila, wala sila'y pension.
44:40Masakit sila, wala sila'y,
44:42kanang, hospital, wala sila'y HMO.
44:44At to sila maglinya sa public hospitals,
44:47for now,
44:48which is limited.
44:49Bisinti Soto,
44:50daghan kay Mo dito,
44:51kay Gika na all from Visayas.
44:53So, gana siya ba?
44:54Usasad na siya, ma'am.
44:55As a reason nga no,
44:56ang,
44:57I'm sorry to say,
44:58ng ano ni,
44:59kanang,
45:01challenge sa kabahin sa baha ba,
45:03na,
45:04ang karaang person nila,
45:05naanad na,
45:06na sila'y assignment sa per river,
45:08na nasilay relationships with,
45:10sa mga tao,
45:10sa mga tao na,
45:11ayaw mo dili,
45:12na,
45:12kuandi ha,
45:13na nasilay kasturya na nila,
45:15ang katong mga,
45:17owners sa mga structure na,
45:18mavoluntarily limohawa,
45:20wala'y,
45:21continuity,
45:22wala'y institutional continuity,
45:23pertaining to,
45:24kuandi,
45:25every time na'y mga changes ba,
45:27so,
45:27mawikend yun ang,
45:28ang atuang.
45:29Balik ta,
45:30always ka mo,
45:30balik sa ground zero,
45:32ang momentum na putol.
45:33Because incidentally,
45:34ang vulnerable pa,
45:35daning practices,
45:36are also the JOs.
45:37So,
45:38I think if something is also,
45:40kanang,
45:41done in that area,
45:42ma-address ang continuity,
45:43at the same time,
45:44there are also,
45:45tenure of service.
45:46Yes,
45:46please,
45:46please,
45:47please,
45:47please,
45:47please,
45:47please call on,
45:48this is a national,
45:49legislation,
45:50manang dapat,
45:51anang,
45:52kikaraan na kayo,
45:53ang,
45:54civil service,
45:55na,
45:55na,
45:56balaod.
45:57Karaan na kayo,
45:58administrative code pa,
45:59man siguro na,
45:591987,
46:00ang,
46:01magagawa,
46:01nang,
46:02civil service.
46:04Yeah,
46:04kanang,
46:05wala ginak,
46:05kanang,
46:05namai plantilya positions,
46:07kanang,
46:08wala man to,
46:08sya na fill up,
46:09and yet,
46:10we have so many,
46:11diring,
46:11walay protection,
46:12ba,
46:12walay.
46:13And,
46:13kanapong mga JOs,
46:14ang katol,
46:15iba morag,
46:15na ay disadvantage,
46:16but that's also,
46:18the one,
46:18in my opinion,
46:19that promotes,
46:20partisan politics,
46:22also,
46:22okay,
46:22they are associated,
46:24with,
46:24every,
46:25administration,
46:25so,
46:26instead of,
46:27being more objective,
46:28in doing their job,
46:29they're also,
46:30protecting their tenure.
46:30Yeah,
46:31example,
46:31mayo ka sa imong trabaho,
46:33balik,
46:34steady lang ta,
46:36sa river trooper.
46:37You're a good,
46:38trabahante niya,
46:39may ke ka,
46:40consistent ka sa imong trabaho,
46:41and everything,
46:42but because,
46:43different imong color,
46:45wala na kay employment,
46:46kanang,
46:47di,
46:48di,
46:48di liba ta mo protect,
46:49sa taong nga,
46:50nitrabahog saktu?
46:51And that's what,
46:51that's what's sad,
46:52ma'am Mildred,
46:53because that's what I learned,
46:54na pag suod na ko din,
46:55ha,
46:55most of them,
46:57don't really want to engage,
46:58in partisanship,
46:59kasagaran sa ito,
47:00mga employees in the government,
47:03sa local government of Cebu City,
47:04just want to work,
47:06serve,
47:06kanang,
47:07sa ilang duty,
47:08as public officers,
47:09sometimes they're just forced,
47:11kanang,
47:12because of the reality,
47:13that's why I want,
47:14na naay,
47:15policy interventions,
47:17that shields,
47:17our government,
47:18workers,
47:19from,
47:20kaneng political pressures,
47:21to engage in partisanship,
47:23para lang,
47:24makapanginabuhi,
47:25correct,
47:25ato lang silang patrabaho,
47:27unog tinarong,
47:28mas better,
47:29ang institution of the government,
47:31once nice,
47:31secured na,
47:32ang,
47:32the people comprising it,
47:34and they're more focused,
47:35focused sa trabaho,
47:36sa trabaho,
47:37loyal sila sa institution,
47:39not to a party,
47:40not to a party,
47:42so that means,
47:43kaneng,
47:44mo gini sila yung public servants,
47:46na ako'y,
47:47last question,
47:48pero pag naapaka,
47:49sige,
47:49kasi una,
47:50sa'y mong last question,
47:51kaya napa siya yung session,
47:52oh,
47:53okay,
47:53muna,
47:54sige,
47:54yung tanos ko,
47:54yes,
47:55napa ito yung buwiat,
47:56public hearing mode,
47:56alaun na,
47:57sige,
47:57sige,
47:58we've talked about traffic,
47:59flooding,
47:59housing,
48:00and more,
48:02no,
48:02technology,
48:02so if these are college subjects,
48:05so medyo light,
48:05siya,
48:06which among these,
48:07you consider as subjects,
48:08that you are acing now,
48:11or subjects,
48:12that you still want to learn,
48:14no,
48:15about,
48:15ang,
48:15ang mga subject,
48:16katong flooding,
48:17traffic,
48:18housing,
48:19social justice,
48:20et cetera,
48:20because these are a lot,
48:22no,
48:22so,
48:22ano yung subject,
48:23ang,
48:24maingon yung ka,
48:25ako neng master yung guwani,
48:27and then the other one is,
48:28I think I need to learn more,
48:29kibaka sir DJ,
48:30di pata kaingon kay,
48:32wapang may pre-midterms,
48:33kung anong man,
48:35pagpapang masugod klase,
48:36two months po man,
48:37ako man,
48:38wapang prelim,
48:40gani,
48:40ako mayingon lang,
48:41ako yung mga classmates,
48:43sa mga maestro,
48:45maya mo,
48:45relasyon sa itong mga classmates,
48:47sa itong mga maestro,
48:48good point,
48:49good point,
48:50good point,
48:50so,
48:51akong last question,
48:52akong last question is,
48:57kanang,
48:57how do you plan to make sure that being a Rama,
49:00does not just mean a legacy,
49:02but an actual accountability and results?
49:05Yes,
49:05sama sa Jid,
49:06sa Giingon,
49:07sa kong papa,
49:07yan,
49:08storya na mo,
49:08kanang,
49:09di kayo,
49:10focus on kaning name politics,
49:12kaning name politics,
49:13trabaho lang,
49:13trabaho lang niya,
49:15at the end of the day,
49:17hopefully na,
49:18when we finish everything,
49:19mahuma na ta,
49:20ni graduate na ta,
49:22from the analogy na,
49:24ni graduate na ta,
49:25di rin na,
49:25skwilahan na,
49:26kanang maayo nga itong nabilin,
49:29and the institution that we leave,
49:30stronger because of the work that we've done.
49:33Well said.
49:34So,
49:35with that,
49:37that wraps up the episode for today,
49:39for Beyond the Headlines.
49:41We hope today's conversation
49:43helped shed light on the bigger picture behind the story.
49:46And we'd once again like to thank our guest,
49:49Councillor,
49:49Cebu City Councillor,
49:50Mikel Rama,
49:51for helping us connect the dots in ways that matter.
49:55I'm Mildred Galarpe.
49:57And I'm DJ Moises.
49:59Thank you,
50:00and good afternoon.
50:01Good afternoon.
50:01Good afternoon.
50:01Good afternoon.
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