00:00My lead source tonight sits on the House Oversight Committee, which is now at the center of this story.
00:04Democratic Congresswoman Jasmine Crockett of Texas joins me now.
00:08And thank you, Congresswoman, for being here, because Chairman Comer says that Democrats are cherry-picking the information that they're releasing.
00:15They're politicizing what's being released tonight.
00:17As a Democrat on the House Oversight Committee, what is your response to the chairman?
00:21Now, listen, here's the deal.
00:22We have a president that is sitting in office that obviously had a very close relationship with arguably one of the worst pedophiles that we've ever seen in this country.
00:32And he's gone from, I don't really know I'm like that.
00:35No, we're not really that close.
00:37Yes, he was an FBI informant.
00:39To now, he said, there never was this birthday book.
00:43There never was this letter.
00:45And I think it goes to his credibility or lack thereof when it comes down to this particular investigation.
00:50It also goes to when we hear the White House say things like, hey, this will be seen as a hostile act if you sign off on this.
00:57Listen, as American people, we should all be in unison, no matter if you're a Democrat, Republican, or independent, when it comes down to cracking down on something like this.
01:06And this literally is so big.
01:10As someone who practiced criminal law in Texas, in Arkansas, and in federal courts, I have never seen a case this big.
01:21And I did it for literally over 15 years.
01:24In terms of what Democrats on your committee are putting out, the address book that came out tonight, it's got, I mean, I looked at it.
01:30It's names and phone numbers of people we know, their addresses.
01:33Was there a consideration about redacting that information, or was it intentional to just release it with everything?
01:39So as it relates to the committee and what the committee itself has put out, we as committee members haven't sat down in a room and said, this is exactly what's going to happen when.
01:49Those are...
01:50So who made this decision?
01:51Those decisions are made by our ranking member, along with the lawyers that are serving on our committee.
01:57Because, honestly, we don't sit and do that kind of stuff.
02:03The things that we're doing is we're trying to make sure that we are going after and we're subpoenaing the information that is going to lead to real answers, whether it's people or whether it's documents.
02:15So we are coming up with a plan around that.
02:19In addition to that, obviously, we are going to have staff that is going to go up and speak with those attorneys that release this most recent information to us, because there have been redactions.
02:31And so they're going to see everything unredacted to make sure that they're just not cherry picking how much information they're giving to us as well.
02:39So do you have any issues with all the numbers and names and addresses being published?
02:42I mean, I think that I personally probably would, simply because of the environment that we're in right now.
02:48And as someone who is consistently receiving death threats because of kind of political sycophants, I would.
02:56You have no problem with it.
02:57On this drama...
02:58No, no, no, I'm saying I would have an issue.
02:59You would have redacted it?
03:01Yeah, I probably would have.
03:02Oh, OK.
03:02Yeah, I probably would have.
03:04Yeah, just, I mean, it's like your addresses in New York phone numbers.
03:06But then again, it may be that none of this is actually relevant now.
03:10Like, as far as I'm concerned, these people could have moved.
03:12These telephone numbers may not work anymore, that kind of stuff.
03:16So I don't know if the team dug into that type of information just so that it could say, at this moment, this person lived here or there.
03:22But they may not even live there anymore.
03:25Yeah, I mean, it's hundreds of names, as you know.
03:27On the drawing itself, the White House has denied that the drawing existed.
03:31They denied that it was Trump's signature.
03:33Tonight, they are denying it, saying that releasing it is proof that it's not his signature.
03:37I mean, we showed, obviously, examples that mirror it.
03:39What do you make of the White House's defense here?
03:42The fact that the president is a liar.
03:46He's consistent.
03:47I mean, that's all I really got for you.
03:49I mean, you know, here's the thing.
03:50We got this from the Epstein estate.
03:54This isn't something that came from a random Democratic something.
03:58This came from the estate.
04:00And so...
04:00Because basically that would have mean that someone had to forge this years ago.
04:04It didn't come from Democrats.
04:05Exactly. That's the whole thing.
04:06Like, before he even got elected, remember when Epstein died, right?
04:11That was before Donald Trump got elected this time.
04:13And they would have had to have some kind of foresight that he was going to run for office again,
04:18somehow win again, and we've got to make sure that this is sitting here
04:21so that when a committee comes through to get this, then it's crazy.
04:26Do you agree that even if that is his signature, having his signature on the letter doesn't constitute any wrongdoing or illegal action?
04:34No, I think the biggest issue is the fact that he cannot be honest about it, right?
04:40Like, why lie?
04:41Because it doesn't implicate, right?
04:44But the fact that you're lying makes it look like what else are you lying about?
04:48Those are the questions that we have.
04:49If you'll lie about something this simple, then when you're trying to tell us that you had nothing to do with these women or these girls,
04:57why should we believe you?
04:58Can we just show the signature on that, the page that was released today one more time,
05:04the White House is denying, is actually his.
05:07And when you look at this on this drawing from the White House or from what was released today by your committee,
05:13if we have that picture of Trump's signature here or what is allegedly his signature that they're denying,
05:18you see that and you believe that's his signature.
05:21Yeah, who else sounds like that?
05:23I mean, it is a signature of signatures.
05:27I mean, that is his signature.
05:29End of story.
05:30Now, I don't think that it's worth time trying to get somebody to come in and, you know,
05:35who's an expert and goes through the curves and that kind of stuff.
05:38We have experts that can do that if he really wants to.
05:40But I don't think that it takes an expert to know that that is his signature.
05:44Can I ask about something else that House, the Democrats on the House Oversight Committee published tonight?
05:50It's a tweet tonight and it says, it has a picture and it says, this picture it alleges,
05:55it says, shows Epstein and a longtime Mar-a-Lago member joking about selling a fully depreciated woman
06:00to Donald Trump for $22,000 and $22,500.
06:05Can you explain what is being alleged here in this picture?
06:10I mean, obviously, I didn't write it, but, you know, from the looks of it,
06:15it does look like he engaged potentially.
06:19Now, I think that that is more incriminating than the birthday.
06:22The birthday just makes him look like a creep.
06:25But this, it's joking about selling a woman.
06:31When and why is that ever funny?
06:33And why is it that they would say that he would be one that would be buying a woman?
06:39And so, and to say fully depreciated and it had some things that really made you feel like
06:44it was somebody that was young because it was talking about the ability to learn,
06:49like a quick learner or something like that.
06:50I don't remember the exact language.
06:51But it's really disturbing.
06:54And honestly, it's really a sad day in this country that this is the guy that is leading our nation.
07:02I mean, we used to care about the morality of a leader.
07:06But when you're looking at this and you're looking at his actions overall,
07:11it doesn't seem like he has a moral compass or that he has an honest bone in his body.
07:19And we don't know that Trump wrote that.
07:20Do you know if that information has been vetted or is it in the process of being vetted?
07:24The most that I can tell you is that that came from the estate.
07:28That is something that we got from the estate.
07:30So usually when we're looking at documents, we're looking at the trail and like who had what.
07:36All I can tell you is that it came out of the estate.
07:38So this is something that is older.
07:40I'm sure that as our attorneys go up to see the unredacted versions of all the documents,
07:46there will be questions about who the people are that are in the photos and things like that.
07:51And ultimately, I think that they may be people that we ultimately end up questioning as a part of this larger probe.
07:58So you may question people who are in these documents that are mentioned.
08:01Yeah, that's the whole point of getting them.
08:04Absolutely.
08:05Do you have any ideas of who may be called or is that something that the committee is still sorting through?
08:09We're still sorting through because we legitimately are still trying to sift through documentation.
08:14You mentioned the FBI informant thing a moment ago.
08:17For people who aren't familiar, that's a comment that was made by the House Speaker, Mike Johnson, a couple of days ago.
08:22He now was trying to clarify, clear that up today.
08:26I just want everyone to listen to what he had to say.
08:31I mentioned that what the attorneys for the victims have been very clear about.
08:36I'm just repeating what is common knowledge and has been out in the public for a long time.
08:39President Trump was never a hindrance to the Epstein investigation.
08:43He was trying to assist in that.
08:45I don't know if I use the right word.
08:46I said FBI informant.
08:47I'm not sure.
08:48I wasn't there.
08:50Is that common knowledge about President Trump trying to assist in the Epstein investigation?
08:55Have you seen any evidence of that?
08:56That's the first time I heard of it.
08:58So I'm going to say no.
09:01I don't have any documentation to that effect.
09:03And I was able to sit down during the Bill Barr deposition.
09:08I don't recall the former attorney general stating anything to that effect.
09:13I can't say what Ali said, but I don't remember anything that would lead me to believe that he was informed of anything like that.
09:20So, no, I would not say that.
09:23And we know that Bill Barr was the attorney general, at least at the time that Epstein ended up dying.
09:31And so I would imagine that he would have the information as it relates to who the informants were and that kind of stuff.
09:38And I can just tell you point blank that it never came up that the president somehow was an informant for the FBI.
09:46Bye.
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