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As the President of the Permanent Secretariat of the World Summit of Nobel Peace Laureates, Ekaterina Zagladina has spent nearly two decades fostering dialogue, justice, and peacebuilding worldwide. In this interview, she reflects on the meaning of human fraternity and how it can guide our collective future.

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00:00When I mentioned the psychological understanding, it's a more universal word, I think, for Western and Eastern civilizations.
00:17But when I say understanding yourself, understanding life and other people, it is coming more from the ancient traditions,
00:26whatever you may call, whether it is a religion or just traditions that are pertaining to the nature.
00:36And I believe that we shall not forget about the wisdom of our ancestors,
00:43to recall that our inner world is something that extrapolates the state of mind, the state of peace, the state of love to the outer world.
00:55And understanding yourself is important. It's not only psychological work, I think it's a deeply spiritual work.
01:02To understand what your inclination is, what your wish is. The most important thing is to understand what you are for here.
01:14And once the person, I think, understands that and starts to fulfill own mission, own wish, true wish,
01:23without sticking to social postulates that can say, you shall be an actor, you shall be a businessman, you shall be a politician, successful person.
01:32Without sticking to that, a person may just break the stereotypes and do something that is really close to his or her heart and be happy in life.
01:47Because I strongly believe the world is not only material. Of course, it is material, but not only.
01:53And things just transcend through us. And each person here is here for a reason, for some upper reason, which each of us should identify in order to be happy.
02:08There are practices also in the modern world. There are gurus, who are making it in a very modern way.
02:21I'm giving just an example without any advertisement, just as an example of Deepak Chopra or pretty famous people.
02:31Or I love listening to Dalai Lama or to other, to some imams, very modern ones, that the young ones, who explain religion in a very practical way.
02:46And give not only just an example of one situation, but they give you a key, a key to resolution.
02:56We have sometimes faced in our life problems and sometimes we block ourselves into doing certain things, but each difficult situation for us is not a block,
03:10it is a trigger to think what was wrong and to go forward, to be constructive with yourself, not to block yourself.
03:17Blocking yourself means you limit your expression of your inner and importantly it is to always understand why this happened to me, why this happened to me again and again and again.
03:31And sometimes you can really find an answer and turn your path in a totally different way.
03:37There are also psychological practices, but I think it's more internal work. Once you get it, you can make it very constructive for yourself.
03:46Well, I mentioned that also before, in my speech, that human fraternity, like peace, love, no, no, human fraternity and peace are state of mind.
04:00It's already the ultimate state of things according to my version.
04:05So, in order to go to that, there are certain tools that would be used, like, as you mentioned, dialogue, especially intercultural dialogue, or a so-called people's diplomacy, ethics, when we go again to the Greek philosophy,
04:30and train ourselves, and train ourselves, train our spirits, in terms of ethics. Ethics cannot be prescribed, you need to do this, this and that.
04:39It's, as they said in Sparta, you know, they trained, they trained themselves, not only physically, but also spiritual, not spiritual, spirits.
04:49So, in order to achieve human fraternity, in order to achieve peace as a state of mind, it's important to use these,
05:00very, very, very good tools, like, as you said, intercultural dialogue, or what people call people's diplomacy,
05:09original diplomacy, and ethics, maybe watching more artistic, artistic pieces of art, reading literature,
05:26to understand the world better, to understand the world better, larger.
05:30Social media sometimes mix, it's too narrow, too, too utilitarian.
05:35But, for a person to understand more, to be more peaceful, and to achieve human fraternity,
05:41it's very important to get education in all spheres.
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