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00:00This weekend, I'm staying with a woman who had her own take on growing old gracefully.
00:13I am on my way to go and meet a lady called Sherry, who's 70, she's got kids, she's a grandma,
00:21and she also happens to be a dominatrix.
00:26While her peers were collecting their bus passes and pensions,
00:30Sherry was embarking on this rather unconventional career path.
00:35It's 31 degrees out there, one of the hottest days of the year,
00:38and I'm en route to Swindon to go and sit in a dominatrix dungeon.
00:44She calls herself online Mistress Sophia.
00:49This is her Twitter bio.
00:51I'm a mature mistress, very old school, demanding, intolerant.
00:57Some would say an utter bitch, let them.
01:01I am a sadist, and proud of it.
01:05Ten years after giving up her job as a chef,
01:08Sherry has almost 30,000 Twitter followers and has written two books.
01:12I'm genuinely curious in terms of how she's found herself in this position.
01:19It's so unorthodox.
01:20You are a very, very naughty boy, and you are going to be punished by me.
01:25Do you understand?
01:25Do you understand?
01:26I'll be staying with Sherry and her grown-up children,
01:3633-year-old Amy and Ben, who's 29.
01:41Hello.
01:42How are you?
01:43Hi.
01:44How's things?
01:45Good boy.
01:46Nice to meet you.
01:46You look lovely.
01:47You look so glamorous.
01:49Oh, have you got a dog?
01:50Hello.
01:50Yeah.
01:50I love dogs.
01:53What's her name?
01:54Bo.
01:54Bo.
01:54Hi, Bo.
01:56Oh, she's gorgeous.
01:58I'll put the kettle on.
01:59What do you do?
02:00I manage a care home for adults with learning disabilities.
02:03Amazing.
02:03Wow.
02:04What a different world.
02:05What a different world to you, Mum.
02:06Is that a caricature book?
02:07Yes, that's got on.
02:11And you live here, do you, Amy?
02:12I do, yeah.
02:13Ben does as well, yeah.
02:15So the three of you in this house?
02:16Yeah.
02:17In layman's terms, how would you describe your occupation?
02:22Professional dominatrix.
02:23I'm a dominant woman, and those that come to see me are submissive.
02:28Always men?
02:30I don't have females.
02:31I'm asked quite a lot.
02:34Because I believe in female superiority, I would not be comfortable doming a female.
02:41What do you make of what your mum does for a living?
02:43This is always a really difficult question, because it is the norm for me.
02:48Uh-huh.
02:49So if I think back to the beginning when she started, it was me that encouraged her to do it.
02:54You get the odd day where I can hear a lot of caning or spanking or something going on that perhaps I could do without on that day.
03:04So, um, can I have a tour around the house?
03:06Of course.
03:07This is the kitchen.
03:09Sherry charges up to £120 an hour to clients who range from judges to farmers.
03:15Bondage discipline and sadomasochism, or BDSM, are all part of the service offered.
03:22Can I see your bedroom?
03:23Yes.
03:25Oh, lovely.
03:26There's a lot of leather and PVC, like in the wardrobes.
03:32Oh, no.
03:34It's just all my dom stuff.
03:36Is that the term I should be using, dom?
03:38You're a dom?
03:38Yes, I'm a pro-dom.
03:41This is all for CP, which is corporal punishment.
03:45Corporal punishment.
03:46Yeah, but I've got some that just like me to be auntie, so mother can't punish them, so auntie's going to do it.
03:55Them sexualising their relatives, is that a bit weird?
03:58I don't touch them sexually, I just punish them, and they don't touch me.
04:04The only thing they do is I put them over my knee and spank them, because let's face it, to a man, nearly everything's got some sort of sexual connotation.
04:12And as long as they don't act on it and involve me, I don't care.
04:17Uh-huh.
04:18Do you let them orgasm in this house?
04:20I do, as long as they understand that they must come in a pot, and then they have to get rid of it from the pot.
04:32Fascinating world, that I don't know a huge amount about, actually.
04:35There's just so much to it.
04:37It's not just whips and chains.
04:39Would I be allowed to see where the magic happens?
04:41Of course, yeah.
04:43So what do you call this room?
04:45Well, a lot of doms, they call their room a dungeon, but that would be a bit pretentious, because it was my conservatory, so I call it my playroom.
04:55Despite the sweat room weather, Sherry's determined to give me an authentic tour of the playroom, so she's gone to put on some PVC.
05:02It's an ordinary house in an ordinary street, and I always find it just fascinating and crazy that you have these really extraordinary characters just living amongst us.
05:15Just a few steps from the kitchen is the playroom.
05:26Wow!
05:28Right, if you wouldn't mind getting down and putting my shoes on, because I'm wearing a hobble skirt, and there's no way I'll get down there.
05:36Oh, my God, I've been here how long? 20 minutes.
05:38What would I be if I were paying you to do this?
05:41Yeah, you'd be a foot slave, wouldn't you be in your element?
05:45There you go.
05:45OK, so...
05:46This is really a sophisticated collection.
05:49Yeah.
05:50All my chrome is over there.
05:52I love chrome, I love it shiny, and that's mainly for CBT.
05:57Yeah.
05:57And what's the abbreviation stand for?
06:00CBT is Cock and Ball Torture.
06:02Can I see that one with the bullets hanging off it?
06:05Are they bullets?
06:05This, it gets undone, it gets opened out, it's put around, and then these are screwed up, depending on the girth, and then I have a bit of fun pulling it.
06:18So that presses into the penis?
06:21Yeah.
06:22Cock.
06:22Penis is so clinical.
06:24Well, I'm trying to be sort of Middle England.
06:27OK, well, it's cock in this room, my dear.
06:31I'm going to have Judy from Haywood's Heath writing in, complaining.
06:35This is because I do a lot of electrics.
06:37I usually will put it on the cock and give them a bit of a shock.
06:41So it'll give them an electric shock?
06:43OK.
06:44So you've got your masks, your clamps, the rope.
06:48What do you use the rope for?
06:49That's for bondage.
06:50They like to put in bondage, and then they like to go in the cage.
06:53Sometimes they'll stay...
06:55Do you put them in here?
06:56Yeah, or overnight.
06:58No.
06:58Yeah, they'll stay overnight in the cage.
07:01They love it.
07:01Sometimes they want to go in the body bag and then in the cage.
07:06Sherry, I'm so claustrophobic, I can't get the lift.
07:08No, I'm the same.
07:09So if you put me in that bag and then in that cage...
07:12Oh, I'd die.
07:12I would.
07:14The cane...
07:15These are canes?
07:16Yeah.
07:16Obviously use this end.
07:18No, you use the other end.
07:20Lord above, I'm going to have to teach you, girl.
07:22I don't know a thing.
07:23You hold it this end and you whack with this end, so...
07:27And don't...
07:28I saw it...
07:28You nearly had my eye out there.
07:29I'm so sorry, Nicole.
07:31Don't hold it like that because it's like you're water divining.
07:34Now, this is the sort of cane I use here for my schoolboys
07:38because this is what they had at school.
07:40So they go over to my 1960s desk and they're caned severely.
07:45The conservatory, the playroom, is quite something.
07:53I think I was expecting, you know, a wallpaper table,
07:57a couple of leather belts and handcuffs.
08:01The body bag and the cage is a lot.
08:04You know what I mean?
08:07I'm anticipating the arrival of Sherry's living son, Ben,
08:11an insurance consultant,
08:12to ask him about his mum's decade-long career.
08:15Punishing men.
08:17I can't cook, but I can set a table.
08:21Do you want a bib?
08:24How much do I have to pay for that?
08:27I can't afford you.
08:33Food's here.
08:34Ben!
08:35How are we doing?
08:36Nice to meet you.
08:37Nice to meet you too.
08:38Yeah, likewise.
08:39This smells wicked.
08:41Bon appétit.
08:42Yeah, same to you.
08:44So, Ben, do you have plans to stay here?
08:48No, I am planning to, obviously, like...
08:50I'm saving up for, like, a mortgage for myself.
08:52When your mum first said to you,
08:55Ben, can we have a chat,
08:58what was your initial reaction?
08:59I can't remember, because it was quite a long time ago now.
09:03You said, Mum, I can't even say the word sex,
09:06and you just go all flustered and brightly.
09:08Oh, right, yeah, yeah, yeah.
09:09Yeah.
09:09She was quite prudish.
09:10Yeah.
09:11So, like, you just mentioned the word sex,
09:12and she'd be like, oh, God, don't say that.
09:14You wouldn't believe it was the same person.
09:16So you started when you were 60?
09:18Yeah, I did.
09:19I started out as a phone chat girl.
09:23What made you gravitate towards it?
09:26Because I needed the money.
09:27I was working, but I just wasn't earning enough
09:30because I had a lot of debt that was left behind
09:33when my marriage ended.
09:35Amy said, you're doing it for peanuts on the phone.
09:38Why don't you do it for real?
09:40I've never looked back, really, since then.
09:42How do you feel about the men that come and visit your mum?
09:45I just don't understand them.
09:47Because it's just straight from strange.
09:51Like, I mean, I look inside there, and it terrifies me.
09:54Just thinking some of the stuff I can go on in there, but...
09:57Can we discuss the body, bag and cage?
09:59Can.
10:00I don't know what it's for.
10:03I don't want to see it get used in here, so...
10:06If he can hear, like, severe caning or something like that,
10:10he goes upstairs.
10:12Can you hear them yelping?
10:13Yeah.
10:14You can really hear the...
10:15When she's smacking someone really hard,
10:17you know about it because you do hear it.
10:24I don't think I'd be a very good Dom.
10:29Absolutely not with Kev.
10:31Kev, I think I've lost my mind.
10:32Like, it's so not my scene.
10:38Like, I cannot imagine.
10:39Obviously, some people really love it,
10:42but I actually can't think of anything worse.
10:45Yeah.
10:50In an unassuming cul-de-sac in Swindon,
10:56I'm staying the weekend with 70-year-old dominatrix,
10:59Sherry and her family.
11:00My first morning, and Sherry's invited me to a session
11:03with one of her lifestyle slaves,
11:06a man who has dedicated his life completely
11:08to serving her alter ego, Mistress Sophia.
11:12Can I just say, I have absolutely no idea what to expect
11:17with this guy that's coming, the slave.
11:20I feel so strange saying slave.
11:22He's one of my real, genuine lifestyle slaves,
11:27so whatever I say goes.
11:31He said, I'm a slave for life,
11:33so he's going to be the one pushing me around
11:36in a wheelchair eventually.
11:39He is a masochist,
11:40so he absolutely loves punishment and pain.
11:46Why do you think that is?
11:49Well, I suppose, why am I a sadist?
11:52Why do I enjoy giving pain?
11:54It's just the way it is.
11:57I never thought in a million years
11:59that I would enjoy beating somebody with a cane.
12:03But here we are.
12:04Yeah.
12:04And to me, it's an art.
12:06I love, when I stand back and I see what I've done,
12:09I think, yeah, that's really, that is well done.
12:13That should be in the Louvre, hanging on the wall.
12:16He's here.
12:17Oh, my God.
12:21This 44-year-old man travels nearly 100 miles
12:25and pays £120 an hour for his slave sessions
12:29with Mistress Sophia.
12:30I am so excited to meet him.
12:33Morning, slave.
12:36Good morning, mistress.
12:37How are you?
12:38I'm well.
12:40Good morning, Miss Stacey.
12:41Hello.
12:41On your knees.
12:42Kiss her feet.
12:44Oh, sorry.
12:45Her shoes.
12:48Thank you so much.
12:50Now kiss your mistresses.
12:56Good.
12:59You can kiss my toe.
13:01Don't slobber over it, though.
13:04Okay.
13:05Now put my boot back on.
13:08This should be interesting.
13:10Good Lord.
13:12How many broken toes is that?
13:16Wait, wait, wait.
13:17Don't you dare get your hand near my thigh.
13:22Sherry prides herself on thinking outside the box
13:25when it comes to sourcing materials for punishment.
13:28What's this for?
13:30Stinging nettles.
13:32Go and get me some.
13:36You are like a powerful, sexy dictator.
13:40Oh.
13:41Like you totally switch.
13:43Yeah.
13:43They're not really there.
13:47The massage didn't look that pleasurable.
13:51Don't tell me they're not there.
13:52They're not there, mistress.
13:54I did counsel.
13:55They've mowed them down.
13:57Fine.
13:58Come in.
13:59That's made me annoyed.
14:01Take off your clothes.
14:05Well, you are not handling that, am I?
14:08Get it in.
14:08What do we say?
14:13Thank you, mistress.
14:25Shall we?
14:32You can get a multitude of things from Halfords.
14:35Oh, my God.
14:40Can't you?
14:41Yes, mistress.
14:46Let's just whip them off.
14:47Oh, my God.
14:51So, we're going to take it nice and steady, aren't we?
14:57Yes, mistress.
14:58And now for an electric fly swap.
15:01Oh, my God.
15:02There's a fly.
15:03Oh, no, there's another one.
15:06It's the time of year.
15:08They just get everywhere, don't they?
15:09Yes, mistress.
15:11Oh.
15:13Is there anything you wouldn't do for me?
15:15No, mistress.
15:17So, who do you belong to?
15:19You, mistress.
15:20Yes.
15:21Me.
15:21How are you feeling right now?
15:26I feel fantastic.
15:28Really?
15:28I really do, yeah.
15:30What do you get from being sort of smacked hard multiple times in the penis?
15:36Um, good question.
15:40Um, it's not about me.
15:45It's, to me, it's about mistress Sophia.
15:49To find a mistress who is a dominatrix is the best feeling for me.
15:54OK, get dressed.
15:59What is it about being dominated?
16:02I wasn't sure what I was.
16:04I thought I was weird, you know, getting involved in stuff like this.
16:08I get my kinks, if you like, out of her dominating me.
16:17The beauty of this whole scene, I'm not in it for sex, for sexual gratification at all.
16:25My break, really, from life, from work, et cetera, is to come up here, see mistress.
16:33I mean, it's not all about pain.
16:34With BDSM, it's just being in the company of someone that you trust 100%,
16:41and you will do anything for them.
16:45And she doesn't judge you.
16:46And it's not all about this BDSM relationship.
16:49I mean, I take her out for meals, you know.
16:52I come up last week, drove up, picked her up, took her out for a meal,
16:57dropped her off, and went home.
16:59It's literally two friends, you know.
17:02I guess she's there for me when I need her.
17:08Are you allowed to call her Sherry at any point?
17:11No.
17:12Best not to.
17:16The clamping, and, like, the way they were ripped off,
17:22you know when your gums start to feel funny?
17:24Like, that is intense.
17:28That is a lot.
17:28It strikes me that Sherry's professional relationships
17:33are far more complex and nuanced than I'd expected.
17:39What have you got here?
17:41This is obviously flowers.
17:43This is so exciting.
17:45I love gifts.
17:47I never get complacent, because it is always nice to have gifts.
17:50Is there a note?
17:56Bye.
17:57Mistress Sophia.
17:59Can I read it?
17:59Yeah.
18:00Mistress Sophia, I hope these flowers brighten up your day
18:04as you have brightened up our lives.
18:07They will grow and bloom with your nurturing tender care,
18:10as will your slaves grow loyal...
18:12Is this a wind-up?
18:15No.
18:15No.
18:16As will your slaves grow loyal and obedient with every touch,
18:22to best serve you, the perfect mistress,
18:25yours faithfully, S.
18:27That's lovely.
18:28Do you know who that is?
18:31S.
18:32Yeah, I think so.
18:33I get a lot of flowers.
18:35I've nearly always got flowers.
18:37From your slaves?
18:38Mm.
18:39What else you got there?
18:40OK.
18:41This is...
18:43Oh, these are lovely.
18:47Aren't they lovely?
18:49Great.
18:51Look at you.
18:52Oh, look at these.
18:54I can't help but...
18:56There she is.
18:57How often do you get gifts like this?
19:04I'll get something every week.
19:06Weekly?
19:06Sometimes wine or chocolates.
19:10Boots.
19:11They clearly hold you in such high regards.
19:14Yeah.
19:15And that card was, like, gushing.
19:17Yeah, it's nice.
19:18Nice to get something like that.
19:20Put it on the mantelpiece.
19:21Yeah.
19:22Yeah.
19:27Tonight, Sherry's eldest son, James, and his fiancée, Alexandra, join us for dinner.
19:35I'm curious to find out if her kids have really come to terms with having a dominatrix as a mother.
19:42Really, really nice to meet you.
19:44Pleased to meet you.
19:45I reckon it was more difficult for us.
19:47Yeah.
19:47I don't know what it was difficult.
19:49I don't know if it was an ego.
19:51I don't know if it was a male thing.
19:53I still can't work it out.
19:54I remember you approaching me and saying, what do you think about, uh...
19:58Yeah, and then he's like, we'll just leave it there, actually.
20:07Shall we stop?
20:10I found that the sex calls were the hardest out of everything that it's now become.
20:17And I understand that.
20:18They were the hardest thing for me to tolerate because it was blatant what it was.
20:21Yeah.
20:21Yeah.
20:21And I struggled with that.
20:23Actually, I think the same.
20:25I struggled more if I could hear what she was saying on the phone
20:30than I ever do hearing a caning or something.
20:35Yeah.
20:35Because no-one wants to hear their mum say, I'm about to come.
20:43No, don't!
20:45I don't think I ever said that.
20:47I can assure you.
20:48All right.
20:49All right.
20:49Let's leave it there.
20:50You need to leave it there.
20:52Let's just leave that there.
20:53Cheers, everyone.
20:56Cheers, people.
20:57Cheers.
20:57Nice to meet you all.
20:59Even after a decade, it's clear Sherry's boys struggle with some elements of their mum's work.
21:06I want to explore the real reason why Sherry continues to do this radical vocation.
21:10I'm spending the weekend with a dominatrix in Swindon.
21:21On top of her day job, 70-year-old Sherry trains women in the art of doming.
21:26Now technician and protege Lee is six weeks in.
21:30So you're just starting out, right, in terms of training?
21:33I mean, you did push me in at the deep end, didn't you?
21:36The first...
21:36I did.
21:37The first session, I think, it was full busting.
21:41Which is kicking his testicles.
21:43Oh.
21:44Yeah.
21:44Are you going sort of full pelt?
21:46I was.
21:46I come away from that feeling really bad.
21:50And for days, I was like, that poor, that poor boy, that poor boy.
21:53He was fine, though.
21:54Yeah.
21:55He was fine.
21:56What do your family make of your decision?
21:58Um, yeah, my boys are OK with it.
22:03You know, it's my decision at the end of the day.
22:05You know, they've got their lives, their children, so...
22:09And your grandma?
22:10Yes, I am.
22:11Do you worry that your grandchildren...
22:14You've got a grandchild as well, you know, that they'll get hassle at school?
22:19Yeah, because people don't understand what it is,
22:22and that's the difficult bit, isn't it?
22:24I have a grandson who...
22:27..when my son brings him round,
22:29there was an unwritten rule that he didn't go in in that room,
22:33and it's only just recently that my son sat him down and talked to him,
22:38so that, you know, it won't come as a shock.
22:42Some of these men are going to be fathers, they're going to be husbands.
22:47Do you think they're being dishonest or disloyal by coming to you?
22:52Honestly, yeah.
22:53Um, I mean, I wouldn't like my partner to be going somewhere else.
23:00Does that make you a hypocrite?
23:05I suppose it does.
23:06I can't lie.
23:09It does.
23:12I wonder if outsiders may say,
23:15well, you are complicit in terms of there's a secret now in a marriage.
23:21Yes, I absolutely get that.
23:23Is it better to have a secret than to have your marriage end?
23:28Is that how you justify it to yourself?
23:30Um, well, I don't have to justify it to myself at all.
23:34They're the ones that have to justify it.
23:36How they cope with it, that's their...
23:39..that's their...their problem.
23:40What impact does this kind of career have on your personal life?
23:49I'm sure there'll be some.
23:53Would I be delighted if somebody I loved
23:57was going to see a dom?
23:59Of course I wouldn't.
24:01But is that...is that Sherry's responsibility?
24:04Is that Lee's responsibility?
24:06Probably not.
24:10Just as I thought I'd got to grips with what a dominatrix does,
24:13the goings-on in the conservatory get rather surreal.
24:18OK.
24:20There's the food.
24:22You go up to the top of the hill,
24:24and I want you to skip along the hill,
24:27sprinkling the food as you go, to feed the foxes.
24:32I have entered a parallel universe.
24:35When you get to the top, give me a little wave.
24:40Woo!
24:40It's the dance mandatory.
24:47I like him to dance.
24:52I think you're done.
24:57Come on, chop-chop.
25:00OK, in you go.
25:03At this point, I don't even know what to say, Mr. Sophia.
25:06It's really funny because instinctively it feels wrong to me
25:13because I hate it when people are laughed at
25:17and I hate it when people feel ridiculed.
25:20I've never really filmed anything like this.
25:23I've never...I've never experienced this.
25:25What do you think he likes about this?
25:32Um, she loves to be humiliated.
25:35And sometimes she'll even message me and say,
25:39can you make fun of me?
25:41So she will have enjoyed that.
25:43Yeah.
25:43So this guy likes to be dominated and humiliated, that's his thing.
25:48Yeah.
25:48I wouldn't humiliate anybody unless I knew they enjoyed it.
25:53I noticed that you were taking a video.
25:55Will that go on Twitter?
25:56Yeah.
25:57Yeah.
25:58She'll message me probably later and say,
26:01look how many likes we got.
26:03What will you write underneath that video?
26:05Every fox loves a gorilla when they've got cat food in a bowl or something.
26:11That well-known phrase.
26:12Yeah, exactly.
26:15So now I'm going to turn her into a sissy.
26:18So she'll be wearing a pretty little dress and a little pinny
26:20which says, sissy in training.
26:23In BDSM, the word sissy sometimes refers to a person
26:30in a type of emasculation role-play.
26:33All right, go on through to the, um,
26:37the front door because it needs cleaning.
26:39So I'll get you some stuff to do it.
26:43Meanwhile, Sherry's eldest son, James, has arrived.
26:47He's never witnessed his mum with a client before.
26:50How are you, James?
26:52My ears are burning, my face is burning.
26:55Do you feel out of sorts?
26:58I'm just...
26:58You're not used to it, are you?
26:59I'm not, yeah, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not, yeah, I do.
27:02There's a lot going on there.
27:04A lot.
27:07Because I see it quite a lot, it doesn't really, like, sort of, shock me.
27:10I suppose it's...
27:11It's all right while he's walking through this,
27:14when she comes into my field as well.
27:16Mm.
27:17When there's a connection of those two,
27:20I think that's when it's kind of like, no.
27:25He's just cleaning the windows.
27:29Is sissy a bit derogatory?
27:33No, it's a kink.
27:34You think it's a genuine kink?
27:36It's a kink.
27:36This isn't exploitative, this is a genuine kink?
27:39No, this is a genuine kink.
27:41Most sissies that come to me,
27:44they enjoy the dressing up, putting the maid's outfit on.
27:48They also really enjoy cleaning the kitchen floor,
27:52washing the dishes, whatever, you know, they just enjoy it.
27:56Mm.
27:56Don't ask me why.
27:58It's just all to do with domination.
28:01And he keeps coming back.
28:03Yeah.
28:04Which would suggest that he is really happy with your service.
28:07Yeah.
28:10Cleaning the house...
28:12..is...
28:14..completely beyond me.
28:16I do think there's a conversation to be had
28:20around trying to understand
28:22why some people are drawn to being humiliated.
28:29Like, you know, are there sort of deeper, darker reasons?
28:32In some instances.
28:34I really didn't expect to see Sherry's work
28:43take place outside, in the communal park.
28:47I'm curious to see what the neighbours on the street
28:49where she's lived for 45 years think.
28:52Kayleigh next door has six kids.
28:56Obviously, as a parent, you have reservations
28:57and you don't really want your children
28:58to be aware of anything like that, especially young children.
29:01But we've been here four years now
29:03and you don't really know.
29:05She's got privacy blinds.
29:06My kids have got a trampoline.
29:08So it's a really good thing.
29:10We were in the living room.
29:11And, um...
29:12Mum, there's somebody out the front
29:14wearing a dog costume on a lead.
29:17So I kind of...
29:18I shoot everyone away from the window quite quickly.
29:20I think if you know Sherry's story,
29:23then you kind of are on her side a bit.
29:26She's cheering her on.
29:26Yeah.
29:31Oh, great!
29:33Hi, hello.
29:35How's my mum?
29:36You live next door to your mum?
29:37Yes, I do.
29:39Tell me about your relationship with Sherry.
29:42Oh, gosh, known Sherry a lot of years.
29:44She went through a rough time
29:45and she came out as this amazing lady
29:49that changed all our perspective on women of that age,
29:52to be honest, you know.
29:54What's your mother's name?
29:55Pauline.
29:56Pauline.
29:56So, you're friends with Sherry?
29:58Yeah.
29:59What do you make of what she does for a living?
30:01Oh, I'd love to have the guts to do a bit with this body.
30:04No way.
30:06Pauline, what happens in the playroom?
30:08Erm, she smacks them.
30:11I'd love to do that.
30:13Don't get a man, you know,
30:14and give them a real wallop and do all that.
30:18That's basically all I know.
30:20Do you know what part of the body she smacks?
30:22The bottom.
30:24Oh.
30:24She smacks them on the bottom.
30:26But there's no things sticking out and all that.
30:29I think there might be.
30:30There might be, yeah.
30:31Oh, but she doesn't tell me that.
30:35Oh, Pauline.
30:36Are there some people around here that do have a problem with it?
30:40Do you think it's jealousy, people that have an issue?
30:42I don't think it's jealousy, yeah.
30:43Some people like to see people down.
30:46Anybody that criticises Sherry around here,
30:48we would be first to stick out for her.
30:50She's lucky to have you on her team.
30:56As Sherry's only daughter,
30:58I want to hear Amy's take on the critics.
31:01A lot of people have this kind of...
31:06I don't know if it's a stigma or what it is,
31:07attached to what mum does,
31:09and they automatically think that she's an escort
31:11or that she sleeps with them.
31:14Usually, the best thing to do when you're dating
31:17is to get it out pretty sharpish.
31:21I get it out on the first date.
31:23If they're going to be around my family,
31:24it's best that they know what the matriarch of our family does.
31:28How does it go down?
31:33Mixed.
31:34I went on a first date with someone once,
31:36and he said, um, what does your mum do?
31:38And I said, well, she's a dominatrix.
31:40And then he went, so she's a prostitute?
31:43And I ended the date there and then,
31:45because it's...
31:45..just got my back up.
31:47You two are so close and you live together.
31:50How does it impact your life, your mum's career?
31:55It's almost as if this gave her another purpose.
32:00It gave her a...
32:01..gave her a life.
32:04It gave her a life, actually,
32:06because the life she had before was shit.
32:09She's had, you know, three failed marriages, bless her,
32:14with people that didn't deserve her.
32:17And now she's, you know,
32:20doing something that makes her happy
32:21with men that come round and worship her
32:24and treat her as a queen,
32:26and that's how she should be treated.
32:28Do you feel compelled to stick around
32:32because you want to make sure that your mum's safe?
32:35No.
32:37No.
32:38That's not why I stick around.
32:40I stick around cos I want to be there.
32:43You're sort of wingmen.
32:44Yeah, I think we are.
32:48I'm gonna take both for a walk, everyone.
32:56I wrongly assume that Amy was here
32:59because she wanted to keep an eye on her mum.
33:05But Amy gave Sherry the push that she needed
33:09when she didn't have a load of confidence in herself.
33:17At the age of 70,
33:23Sherry is aware that her looks play a large part
33:25in her role as a dominatrix.
33:27And this morning, we have an appointment.
33:29We're going to my oldest son's house, James.
33:35He's an aesthetic practitioner,
33:38so we're going to have some Botox.
33:41The guys that come to see me,
33:42they want me to be old,
33:44but they also want me to be sassy,
33:46so they want the best of both worlds, I guess.
33:49Yeah.
33:51Hello!
33:52How you doing? You all right?
33:53Good, good, good, good, good.
33:56This is such a touch for you.
33:57Your son does Botox.
33:59Yeah.
34:00And how long have you been doing your mum?
34:03About 14 years now.
34:06Yeah, about 14 years now, it must be.
34:09How would you describe your relationship, James?
34:13Close.
34:13Yeah.
34:14Really close.
34:15Yeah.
34:15If I'm being honest,
34:16every family has its traumas.
34:18Mm-hm.
34:18Mm-hm.
34:19But we've worked our way
34:20through some real downs...
34:23Yeah.
34:23..in life.
34:24When your ex left,
34:26he was having an affair.
34:28Yeah.
34:29Once I'd finished grieving
34:30and looked like a skeleton as well,
34:32I mean, I did...
34:33I look at pictures now
34:34and I did look dreadful.
34:36The stress told on her,
34:38but it was down to a lot of suppression,
34:40I feel, in that relationship.
34:42Oh, without a doubt.
34:43I mean, he didn't like me wearing make-up,
34:45he didn't like me going out without him
34:49and stuff like that,
34:50but he was very possessive.
34:52He knew he was leaving me
34:54well over a year before,
34:56so he hadn't paid any utility bills.
34:58It just left me really financially embarrassed,
35:02so I just decided to fall apart.
35:05Well, you didn't decide,
35:07but that's why sort of financial independence
35:09is so important,
35:10particularly for women.
35:12Yeah.
35:12He was abusive mentally,
35:15because he used to like to enjoy humiliating me
35:19in front of people,
35:20and so I got to a stage
35:22where I didn't like to go to social gatherings
35:24because he took joy
35:27out of making people laugh at my expense.
35:32Have you told him
35:33what else you've had done then?
35:34No.
35:36Oh, come on, Sherry.
35:37What else you had?
35:38What have I had in my face?
35:41I gave her a facelift.
35:42Stop it.
35:43It's just inserting cables down to here
35:46and then pulled the face into position.
35:49He does my lips.
35:51Yeah.
35:51But just all just subtle stuff.
35:53Your lips get thin as you get older,
35:55so he just...
35:56I totally get the appeal.
35:57You get a lot of compliments, though, don't you?
35:59I do.
35:59You do get a lot of compliments.
36:00Yeah, I get a lot of young guys chasing me.
36:03Oh, shut up.
36:04What's that about?
36:06La, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la, la.
36:09It's interesting because it kind of prompted Sherry
36:15to be honest about how there were times
36:19in a previous relationship
36:21she really felt like she was humiliated.
36:23And it was interesting that she used that word
36:25because I've heard her use that same word
36:30when talking about how she makes her clients feel.
36:36She humiliates them.
36:37So it is just total role reversal.
36:44It's my last day at Sherry's.
36:47While I can't fully comprehend the complexities
36:49of dominant-submissive relationships,
36:52the self-confessed sadist can't let me go
36:54without some much-needed tuition.
36:57We're going to have a little caning lesson.
37:00Novice Dom Lee and I have been summoned to the playroom.
37:04Once I start caning,
37:05you wouldn't want to be standing there.
37:08OK.
37:10This is how I like to start with a newbie for caning.
37:14OK.
37:15This is a little whippy cane,
37:17which, although it can be painful,
37:20you can't do an awful lot of damage with it.
37:22So, the places we can't go,
37:26anything above there is a definite no-no
37:28because you've got your kidney area, etc.
37:31OK.
37:32So, if you imagine that is the centre of the bottom,
37:36OK, that's your crease,
37:38you're going to be aiming for this cheek.
37:41OK.
37:44Oh, my gosh.
37:50Now, that is literally one line.
37:54That's because I have a very good aim.
37:57I can see that.
37:57But it's because it's been years and years.
38:01So, bringing your arm back,
38:04you're using your full arm.
38:07You don't use your wrist.
38:09Right.
38:10So, would you like to go next?
38:12Sure.
38:13I'm left-handed, but do you think that matters?
38:15No, you could stand over that side.
38:16OK.
38:18Let's get you standing straight first.
38:20OK.
38:21Just let me get out of the way.
38:23OK, go for it.
38:28Not bad.
38:31Not bad at all.
38:33Oh, I found my talent.
38:37Bitlow, you've gone on to the thigh.
38:40Oh.
38:41Which is OK,
38:42but not everyone likes their thighs cane,
38:45so try to keep it on the bottom area.
38:51They sound quite good at this.
38:54Yeah.
38:56See, now what you've got is...
38:59A sore man.
39:00You've got a nice pattern
39:02in exactly the right place.
39:05I found a new gig.
39:11Very good.
39:13That is really, really good caning.
39:16Can I just say,
39:17is this your pillow from your bedroom?
39:18Yeah, it is.
39:21I recognised it.
39:23It's ideal to practise on.
39:25Slave?
39:28Come on, hurry up.
39:29We're waiting.
39:31Mistress Sophia's protege, Lee,
39:33has never came to a real client before now.
39:36How are you feeling, Lee?
39:38Um, yeah.
39:40Yeah.
39:40I'm all right.
39:42We've got to be.
39:42Light work, light work.
39:44Yeah.
39:45You're starting to feel quite familiar.
39:46Oh, thank you, Miss.
40:04Oh, thank you, Miss.
40:07Good.
40:08OK.
40:09And we're going to mark him well
40:12because, obviously,
40:13you want to go home with some
40:15good marks, don't you?
40:17Yes, Miss.
40:18Like a trophy, don't you?
40:19Yes, Miss.
40:20Oh, thank you, Miss.
40:25There.
40:26Now,
40:27what do you think of that?
40:29It's very,
40:30very neat.
40:31Fantastic.
40:32Perfect job.
40:33OK, so, where's my keys?
40:35Yeah, I've got my keys.
40:37Right, good.
40:38Bye, mate.
40:38See you later.
40:39Bye-bye.
40:43Before I leave early tomorrow,
40:45I want to ask Sherry
40:46how she sees her future.
40:49So, you're 70 now.
40:50What, when you're 80,
40:52you're still going to be doing this?
40:53I think, possibly,
40:55when I'm 80,
40:56I might think about retiring.
40:58I might think about
41:00hanging up my whip.
41:02I feel, um,
41:05time isn't on my side.
41:06And I know that probably
41:08sounds a bit morbid.
41:09I don't mean it to be.
41:10It's just the fact
41:11that, you know,
41:13I'm not a spring chicken.
41:14How many years have I got?
41:17Say I could never session again
41:19or work again.
41:20Say something happened to me
41:21and I got ill
41:22and I couldn't
41:22and I had to sit here.
41:25Life wouldn't be worth
41:26going on.
41:27I'm having too much
41:29of a good time
41:30to pop my clogs,
41:31to be honest.
41:32Cherie's life
41:39was so miserable
41:40and really unfulfilled.
41:42In the last 10 years or so,
41:44she's found
41:44this sort of
41:47energy for life
41:49and
41:49she's now making the most of it.
41:53The woman I have met
41:54wants to do things her way.
41:57But I think she's arrived
41:58at this point
41:59because of what
42:00she's been through.
42:09As a society,
42:11we don't prioritise
42:12our elders
42:12and we sort of
42:13write them off.
42:14And actually,
42:15Cherie's not having
42:16any of it.
42:18It's been brilliant.
42:19Thank you so, so much,
42:20Cherie.
42:21And I find that
42:22quite empowering.
42:24I think, well,
42:25good for you.
42:25Just do it your way.
42:26Bye.
42:27Bye.
42:27Bye.
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