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00:00I'm in Essex and I'm on my way to meet the self-styled king of surrogacy.
00:11My name's Barry and this is my partner Tony and together we're going to tell you about how we
00:16became parents. Barry Drewit Barlow was Dubbriton's first gay dad in 1999 after he and his ex-husband
00:23Tony became the first same-sex couple in the world to be named on the birth certificate of a
00:29surrogate child. I feel like surrogacy as a topic has really split the camp. I do genuinely have
00:38a real interest in the topic as a whole. I'm going to be 40 in two years and inevitably you
00:45start thinking about you know if it doesn't happen biologically what other roads would we
00:51look at or go down. Barry's used surrogacy to bring seven children into the world and has profited
00:58from it too. He's a self-made millionaire who owns multiple successful businesses including a
01:03clinical trials company and he set up his own international commercial surrogacy agency.
01:09This has made him a lightning rod for the criticism around the practice and he's been accused of
01:14creating babies made to order. I don't see that there's any reason we've taken their dead son's sperm
01:23and creating a grandchild from it. Barry's unapologetic approach to creating the perfect
01:29baby for himself and his clients is seen by some as playing God. I think commercial surrogacy I could you
01:37know I can understand there needs to be legislation and I just think are you in a position to be able
01:46to really make a decision if someone's waving 100 grand at you. Barry's business practices which take
01:56advantage of the less restrictive US laws as well as his rumoured treatment of staff have also made him
02:02a very controversial figure. I'm going to be staying with Barry and his current partner Scott who is 23 years
02:09his junior and they have two young surrogate children of their own. Barry's loaded. Loaded. Quite outrageous,
02:17quite outlandish. I think they might have a swimming pool. Have I brought my bikini? No.
02:24Stop. Is this their drive? Please be warned we have protection dogs at this house. If you enter these
02:39premises illegally we'll take no responsibility for injury. Hello? Hello it's Stacey. Hey Stacey, come in. Thanks love,
02:51thank you. Oh my God. Wow. You're not Barry? No, my name is Richard. Richard? Barry's ballet. Oh, it's nice to meet you.
03:03Nice to meet you. His ballet? What does that involve? Just looking after his day-to-day needs. Oh, wow. Okay, nice to meet you.
03:11Barry's assistant. Nice to meet you. You're Barry's assistant. Do you want to go inside? Yes, please. I'm very excited. I feel like I'm in some kind of super club in Marbella.
03:19Thank you, that's really kind. Thank you. Hi. How are you? Good, how are you? Hello, mate. Nice to meet you. This is bonkers.
03:33Barry, who made this chair? An artist called Jimmy Martin. He was the guy who did Madonna's chair. So if it's good enough for Madonna? I thought, do you know what?
03:42It's good enough for you, Barry. If the Queen of Pop can have it, so can the King of the Gay Sorrows in the world.
03:47Wow. And I mean, this art is beautiful. I'm assuming that's you, is it, Barry?
03:53On the end. On the far right, yeah. Next one.
03:57They're your kids? Yeah, Aspen and Safra. Is that an Amex?
04:00Yeah. Platinum card? Of course. No, of course, yeah.
04:02It's actually Scott. Is this you? Aspen or Slimmer, yeah.
04:06Scott, well, I feel honoured to see you in all your glory.
04:09The night's still young. Lucky Barry, yeah.
04:12I felt very lucky in those days. Very lucky.
04:17Now that I've got a port with 13 years later.
04:2013 years in, yeah, yeah, yeah. But you're still very much in love?
04:26I'd say so. Yeah. Come on.
04:28Is that a goldfish floor? Can I stand on it? Yeah, come on.
04:33This is the biggest indoor, non-commercial aquarium in Europe.
04:40Wow. What an entrance.
04:42So I've obviously met Harry and Richard.
04:46Yes.
04:46Do you have multiple staff?
04:48Yeah.
04:49How many?
04:50That work here, about 15 in total.
04:55Wow.
04:56Are you shocked?
04:57I'm floored.
04:58Do you want to have a quick tour of the house while it's a bit quiet?
05:01I would love that.
05:02Come on.
05:02Will I take my shoes off?
05:03No, no, no. Leave them off.
05:04No, no, no. Okay.
05:07This is the bathroom.
05:10If you're easily offended, now would be a good time to fuck off.
05:14Perfect mantra.
05:16Perfect.
05:19Hello.
05:20How are you?
05:20You're the chef?
05:21This is David, the chef.
05:23It's really nice to meet you, David.
05:24What's for dinner later?
05:26Yeah, what is for dinner?
05:27Main course is for steak with who makes you.
05:29Great, that will do.
05:31I've just had a bag of crisps in the car, so this sounds completely wonderful.
05:37Have you just got the one dog?
05:39No.
05:40Got loads?
05:4050.
05:415-0?
05:425-0.
05:45Are you big into football?
05:48We actually own a football club, so, yeah.
05:50That was his Christmas present.
05:51So you gifted Scott the club?
05:54Fine.
05:54And what a gift.
05:58Finally, I get to meet the two children Barry has had with Scott.
06:01Four-year-old Valentina and two-year-old Romeo.
06:04Hi, baby!
06:06Valentina, say hi.
06:07How old are you?
06:08Say hello.
06:09Tom!
06:10Oh, hi, baby!
06:12You have a cute train!
06:14Oh!
06:16What's your name?
06:18Romeo.
06:19Romeo?
06:20Is it Romeo?
06:21Have you been in the swimming pool?
06:23Is it cold?
06:24No, it's not cold, it's warm in there.
06:26It's heated.
06:27Have some decorum, Stacey.
06:28It's heated.
06:28Yeah, it's heated.
06:31Well, come on, let me show you your room.
06:33Thank you very much.
06:35Oh, this is stunning.
06:36Thank you so much.
06:39What'll it do for you?
06:40This'll do.
06:41Good!
06:41This'll do.
06:42My own balcony.
06:43Got your own balcony?
06:44Okay.
06:44I am absolutely gobsmacked.
06:50This is my viewing area.
06:54There's two TVs in here.
06:57Because I can't be expected to stay in a bedroom with only one television.
07:02You know, I'm not daft.
07:03I was expecting, like, over-the-top glam.
07:06But this is, like, off the chart.
07:09It's so far away from my world.
07:16I mean, what did we do last night at my house?
07:19It was me, Kev, the baby.
07:21My folks were there.
07:22And there was, like, three sweet potatoes.
07:24And we were fighting over who was going to have the sweet potato.
07:27And a chicken in the bag.
07:35Hi.
07:37Hey.
07:37Do I need to help with the table or whatever?
07:41Yeah.
07:42No.
07:43I'll just sit and wait.
07:44Yeah.
07:45The first guest to arrive for dinner is Saffron,
07:47one of the five surrogate kids Barry had with his ex-husband, Tony.
07:51Do you like a drink, though?
07:52Are you waiting?
07:53Yes, please.
07:53I need to test her bar skills out because she's never actually done a proper day's work in her life.
07:58So I'm making her work on the bar on Monday at the football club.
08:02Is that legit?
08:02I work as a project manager, actually, for their product testing company.
08:08There's a difference between her kind of work and what a normal person would work.
08:11That hard graft.
08:12Yeah.
08:13How you were brought into the world, what are your thoughts on that?
08:20I just think it's normal, yeah.
08:23Like, because I've not known any different.
08:25To me, it's just what I am used to.
08:28Yeah.
08:28Is this for Zarchi tableware?
08:32Yeah, for Zarchi.
08:33Yeah, OK.
08:35It's always this formal, yeah.
08:39Valentina, you come sit here.
08:41Also joining me for my first meal with the Druitt Barlows is Scott's mum, Mandy.
08:46Your dads were showing me your playground.
08:49Is it dad and dad?
08:51Dad and daddy.
08:51Dad and daddy.
08:52Who's who?
08:53I'm dad.
08:54You're dad.
08:55He's the daddy.
08:56Cheers, everyone.
09:01Cheers.
09:02Cheers.
09:02Nice to meet you.
09:05You always wanted to be a dad.
09:07Yeah.
09:07But I was always told I could never be a dad because I was gay.
09:11Because remember, it was the 90s and everybody was against everything.
09:15It was hard.
09:16Essex County Council ran a couple of adverts for foster carers and adoptive parents.
09:21So I thought, if I'm qualified as a social worker, and as a social worker,
09:24I can remove somebody's kids from them and put them into local foster care or whatever,
09:29why can't I be one of those foster parents?
09:32So Tony and I made the very first application to social services as a couple.
09:39And ultimately, after about two and a half years, we got a resounding absolutely no way.
09:46And I'm standing there thinking, well, you know what?
09:50Fuck you, because you think I'm good enough to go and qualify somebody else to be a parent,
09:57but you don't think I'm good enough to have a family and raise it on my own.
10:01Well, fuck you.
10:02I'll find another way.
10:03And then I just got on a plane to Los Angeles and I found a woman who would give me her ex
10:08and another woman who would carry the baby for me.
10:11And the rest is history.
10:13Yeah, kind of.
10:15And then we hit the news, like, why are these gay men wanting to have a kid?
10:18They must be pervs or they must be something.
10:21Do you know what I mean?
10:21But now there's over 200,000 same-sex families in the UK.
10:27It's a lot.
10:28And you were the first?
10:29You were the first.
10:29Legally?
10:29Yeah.
10:30You've changed history, really.
10:32Yeah.
10:35Wow.
10:37So who's in charge of, like, domestic duties?
10:41What do I actually do?
10:42Yeah.
10:43I do.
10:44Richard!
10:49Fine, understood.
10:50OK, thanks, mate.
10:51What do you tend to do, Scott?
10:54Around the house.
10:56So when anything needs to be done, I'll obviously tell Richard.
11:04Right, I'll leave you to it.
11:06Thank you so much for today.
11:07You're very welcome.
11:08So grateful.
11:09Are you going to bed now?
11:10Yeah.
11:11It's half past eight?
11:12Yeah.
11:13Are you having a laugh?
11:14I'm totally serious.
11:15On a Friday night?
11:16What time will you be going to bed?
11:18Probably about one, half one.
11:20You go to bed about one a.m.?
11:21Yeah.
11:21Are you working?
11:22Yeah.
11:23You're a hard-working man, Barry.
11:24I love it.
11:26Night-night.
11:26Don't forget we've got a party tomorrow afternoon.
11:29All right, I'll make sure I look the part.
11:31All right, there you go.
11:32See you later.
11:32Have a nice one.
11:33See you later.
11:33Bye.
11:34Bye.
11:34Bye.
11:37Today has been so interesting.
11:42I could easily be seduced by this kind of life.
11:46That's the thing, though, isn't it, with all these situations, you know?
11:49You know, first glance, it all feels very enticing and, you know, oh, my God, this is amazing.
11:58I'm sure there's a lot that goes on behind the scenes that we're not privy to.
12:01Bye.
12:18Morning, Richard.
12:20How are you?
12:20How are you?
12:21Well, thanks.
12:22Sleep okay?
12:23I did, thank you.
12:23I slept like a baby, actually.
12:25It's my first morning staying over at the Druitt Barlow £6 million Essex compound.
12:32Would you like a coffee or some breakfast?
12:33Do you know what?
12:33I'd actually love a cup of tea.
12:35A cup of tea.
12:35Am I allowed to come through?
12:37Of course, yeah.
12:37So sorry, I know you've just done the floors.
12:39And I'm easing my way into the family's luxurious lifestyle.
12:44I get the impression that for Richard, it's whatever is asked of him, he will feel he has to deliver.
12:53It's like, don't bore me with the details, just get it done.
12:57Barry's vast wealth from various businesses, including a medical research company, gave him the opportunity of having his seven surrogate children in the United States, where the practice of commercial surrogacy is legal.
13:10You look beautiful, Valentina.
13:13But this approach has been heavily criticised in the media, as Barry has been accused of genetic engineering.
13:19The headlines have been, you've designed your babies, you know, you were specific about what you wanted your kids to look like.
13:28Well, we chose the sex of our kids.
13:30Some people have an issue with that, don't they?
13:32Oh, a lot of people have an issue with it.
13:34The thought of going into an agency and looking for a catalogue and going, oh yeah, I like that one, I like that one, let's meet and bring them in, I want to talk to them, see what they like, what's their personality like.
13:42However, in the UK, when you go for egg donation, it's all blind.
13:49You don't get to see a picture of the woman who's given these eggs.
13:54Why the hell would I do that?
13:56Look at it this way.
13:57If he would have been a girl, we'd have met in a bar, we'd have had a fancied, fancied her, and we'd have gone home, we'd have got it together and we'd have had a baby.
14:05Maybe it would have been our light by light, not some strange woman who I've never met or seen a picture of that could look like the elephant woman.
14:14I'm sorry, I'm just not about that at all.
14:17Some people think that's a step closer to selective breeding, that's a step closer to eugenics.
14:24If I really would have agreed with that, I'd have asked for my money back months ago or years ago, because the ones that I got are definitely not those designer kids that are all, you know, who, who, who.
14:34They're, they're just normal kids, do you know what I mean?
14:38Barry's very public investment in his kids must have had an effect on how they're perceived.
14:44Saffron, we need to tell your dad to invest in a masseuse.
14:49I know, yeah. That would be lovely.
14:52I'm wondering how his first daughter, Saffron, deals with the inevitable scrutiny.
15:00What was it like growing up?
15:02Well, we've always been called, like, spoiled, but I think I got it worse than everyone, but I, I mean, I know I'm spoiled, but I'm appreciative of everything I've ever been, but obviously people always have something to say about it, don't they?
15:17I suppose when you're younger, it's difficult to not get upset.
15:21Yeah. I used to read all the comments, even on, like, my dad's post, but now I don't care, because I don't really care what anyone thinks anymore, whereas back then I did care.
15:30Sure.
15:31Were there any negatives? Is there anything that you struggled with?
15:35No, I don't think so, because we never were short of love or anything, do you know what I mean?
15:40Yeah.
15:40Like, we always had everything, not even just, like, like, materialistic.
15:45If we ever needed help with anything, we always had the help, the love, everything.
15:48Yeah.
15:49So I don't think really, like, there was any negatives within what other people had to say.
15:54And do you work now?
15:56No, I don't work now. Like, my dad still pays me, like, on a salary.
16:01How much, how much is that?
16:03It's never, like, below, like, £5,000.
16:06Really?
16:07Yeah.
16:09So your dad will give you £5,000 a month?
16:11Yeah.
16:11Just living expenses?
16:13Yeah.
16:13What a relief, financially.
16:15Yeah.
16:16But do you think it's slightly bizarre that you'll never know what it feels like to have to save up for something?
16:23Yeah, definitely.
16:24I know that not many people would get, like, their house paid for, or, like, their car paid for, and then their bills paid for, and stuff.
16:32Hugely fortunate.
16:33Yeah.
16:34Do you think people judge you immediately?
16:37Yeah.
16:38Just from hearing, like, what they hear or seeing what they see.
16:41I think you're quite shy, a bit more reserved than your dad's.
16:44The only one who I'd say is flash, to be fair, is my dad.
16:47Really?
16:48Yeah.
16:51Safon's work ethic may not mirror her father's, but it's clear she's still very much the apple of his eye.
16:57We're going to party hard.
17:00Some of their pals are coming round.
17:04To have a barbecue.
17:06And I'm told there's karaoke.
17:09I actually love karaoke.
17:11I really love karaoke.
17:12One night in the Philippines, I sang karaoke for about 14 hours straight.
17:19It's a true story.
17:21We'll all sort of congregate outside, have some food, and see where the night takes us.
17:27As last-minute preparations for the barbecue keep the staff milling away.
17:30Hello?
17:32Can I come in?
17:33Yeah, come in, dear.
17:34Hi, Harry.
17:36Hi!
17:39So you're just getting ready for...
17:41You're just getting ready for the pool party?
17:44I want to find out what the 23-year age gap has meant for Barry and Scott's relationship.
17:50Wow, I wonder whose closet this is.
17:53What I pulled Scott out of.
17:56Do you share each other's clothes?
17:58No.
17:59You've got a slightly different style, I would say.
18:01Really?
18:02I suppose you're a bit louder.
18:04Me?
18:05Yeah.
18:06How much have you been there?
18:07You're a bit louder.
18:07I mean, in your sartorial choices.
18:10And Scott, I think you're a bit more...
18:14More what?
18:14Straight?
18:15No, no straight energy.
18:16I don't get straight energy from you, no.
18:17Really?
18:18No.
18:18No?
18:19No.
18:19No.
18:20No.
18:20Damn.
18:20The minute I saw Scott, I thought, cocky little Essex boy.
18:27I only met him the once, and he stalked me on Instagram and found me, and then started
18:34messaging me, and then we ended up meeting for a drink and what have you.
18:38I thought, hmm, it's not bad, him.
18:41Did you fancy Barry straight away?
18:43Pretty much, yeah.
18:44Did you?
18:45Yeah.
18:46So he won the Rolls-Royce then?
18:47It's not that.
18:48It isn't that.
18:50Whatever it was that put a spell on Scott, Barry still seems to have a way of convincing
18:55people around him to do whatever he wants.
18:58He's going to do a fashion show for us.
19:00Come on.
19:00Oh, brilliant!
19:02Yes!
19:02I love this!
19:03Let me see the pink shorts on you.
19:07We're here.
19:07You've got an audience.
19:09He loves an audience.
19:11You do.
19:14Just get Richard to model them, then we'll pick which one.
19:17He can be your model.
19:18Where are they?
19:19What's the point of having a manservant when the manservant's elsewhere?
19:25Richard, we need you to model something for us, and then if they look nice on you, Scott's
19:30going to wear them.
19:31Don't feel obliged.
19:32As quick as you can.
19:33I feel bad.
19:35Why?
19:35In case they feel embarrassed.
19:36Why would they be embarrassed?
19:37Why would they be embarrassed?
19:38Yeah, maybe.
19:40Turn around.
19:43Perfect.
19:44If you could stay like that now all day, Richard, Miss Stacy would like her drinks served just
19:50like that, apparently.
19:50You look fantastic, Richard.
19:51Really great.
19:52Oh, my God.
19:54This is not how I envisioned today playing out, but here we are.
20:03I think Barry's definitely the one who rules the roost.
20:09Yeah, trying on the boxers was, I did feel slightly like, oh, God.
20:12And I kept saying, please don't feel obliged, please don't feel obliged.
20:17I was a bit, I don't want anyone to feel like they have to perform.
20:21Barry's millions have afforded him the opportunity to have very compliant stuff.
20:31And I'm wondering what the story is with his romantic relationship.
20:37I'm eager to hear from Scott and his mum, Mandy.
20:41You two have always been close.
20:43You've always had a close relationship.
20:46Oh, yeah.
20:46Always.
20:47And he's your youngest.
20:48Yeah.
20:48Can you remember when Scott told you, look, I've met this guy?
20:53Yeah.
20:54Well, yeah, he was in the garden, I was in the lounge.
20:59He texted me saying that I'm gay.
21:02And I just said, and.
21:05Nobody was surprised.
21:07How did you feel?
21:08Were you surprised?
21:09Not to be honest, no.
21:10And was it a relief to sort of tell your mum what was going on?
21:15Yeah, because I didn't know how anyone was going to take it, because obviously I met an older guy.
21:20Because he's much older.
21:21I've always been with women.
21:23To be honest, I was concerned.
21:26I said, like, as long as you're happy and you both know what you're doing, then.
21:31And the kids accepted him, because he'd got small children at the time.
21:36Of course, yeah.
21:36And suddenly you become a stepdad, essentially.
21:39Yes.
21:39Yeah.
21:40So you would have been how old when you and Barry got together?
21:43Just turned 19.
21:44That's young.
21:45Yeah.
21:46And so you said, of course, I had concerns about the age gap initially.
21:49Yeah, in the beginning, like anyone would, wouldn't I?
21:52Yeah.
21:52And what were your concerns?
21:53Like the power imbalance or?
21:55I think it's because he was so young and inexperienced, if you know what I mean.
22:00But they're both completely different.
22:03He loves doing, like, physical and, like, building things.
22:07Barry's, like, got the brain and, like, the business.
22:11We've both got the brain.
22:12We've both got the brain, but, yeah, me and Barry's more headstrong, nose, and then I'm
22:19the guy done up.
22:19Yeah, business-like.
22:20You have different strengths.
22:21Yeah.
22:22And you play to your strengths.
22:23Yeah.
22:24Yeah, absolutely.
22:25So we were good as a team.
22:26It's just really nice.
22:27And you can see how much Valentina and Romeo absolutely adore him.
22:30So, yeah.
22:32Yeah?
22:33There's a lot of judgmental people right now.
22:34Oh, there's so much judgment, yeah.
22:36It's, yeah.
22:37You're the parent, you know, Ben.
22:40Let's go, let's go!
22:41Let's go, let's go, let's go!
22:42Let's go, let's go!
22:42Let's go, let's go!
22:53Go, it's great, baby!
23:01Tequila!
23:08Tequila!
23:08Barry and Scott are very different people
23:14at different stages in their lives
23:16but they've found a way to make their relationship work
23:18and bring two loved children into the world.
23:26I'm keen to find out from other guests
23:29what their thoughts are on the man
23:30that seems to get whatever he wants.
23:33So how do you two know Barry?
23:35We both work for him.
23:37Currently?
23:38What company, because I know he's got loads of companies,
23:41what one do you work for?
23:42We work for the cosmetic research company.
23:45It's really interesting actually.
23:47We get to sample lots of products
23:50before they go on the market.
23:52Deodorants, anticoaspirants.
23:54Because when I ask him,
23:55what do you do for a living?
23:57He says I sniff armpits.
23:59Oh yes, that would be a deodorant study.
24:01We have a lot of them studies.
24:03Men or women are not allowed to wash their armpits.
24:05He's then got to smell their armpits
24:08and then give them a grade of how bad they are.
24:10Wow.
24:10What the odour is.
24:11And then we have to wash them and then apply product
24:13and then he will then smell them again
24:15to see if that product that we've been testing works.
24:18And it's a lucrative business.
24:19We're talking millions and millions and millions.
24:22He's down to having a nose for it, so to speak.
24:25What kind of a guy is Barry?
24:27How would you describe Barry?
24:29Because I think there are conflicting ideas in the media.
24:33Some people say he's hot-headed, he's bad-tempered.
24:35Some people say he's extravagant.
24:37I'd tick all of them boxes.
24:39Depends what mood he's in.
24:42All of the above.
24:42I would definitely say all of the above.
24:44Yeah, definitely.
24:45I mean, he just wants perfection the whole time.
24:48You could get emails from him at, like, 1 o'clock in the morning.
24:50Yeah, definitely.
24:52Saying what?
24:53Just seeing if something's been done.
24:55Like, he'd be doing his work.
24:56So, I would wake up the next day,
24:57but I'd be like, Corey's been doing emails at 1 o'clock in the morning.
25:00Literally.
25:00So, it's constant.
25:01The hustle is constant.
25:02Barry's grip over his staff appears to overstep the mark at times.
25:32I get the impression that, you know, Barry, Barry's in charge, right?
25:36Barry's the boss.
25:37He's very strict and he's a perfectionist.
25:41He said that himself.
25:42And I think at times he can be maybe a bit hot-headed.
25:45I wonder if anyone would stand up to him, even if they wanted to.
25:49I'm sleeping over in the home of multi-millionaire Barry Drewitt Barlow,
26:05who created his family of seven by using surrogates.
26:10It's the morning after a raucous house party.
26:13Hi, David.
26:14Morning!
26:15Good morning.
26:16Your hair still looks amazing.
26:19You've got that kind of vush to it.
26:21Saffron's upstairs struggling, I think, I've brought.
26:24Oh, bet she is.
26:25Saffron's upstairs struggling.
26:26Oh, she was knocking those shots back in half.
26:29Barry's wealth clearly affords those closest to him a lavish lifestyle
26:33and a band of staff, including a dog grooming team,
26:37that look after his prized poodles.
26:39Are you ready to shave a puppy?
26:40Yes, I am.
26:41You're ready to shave her.
26:42I've never groomed a dog before.
26:44It's only like shaving your private business.
26:47Yeah.
26:48Well, I've done that, yeah.
26:52I'm finding the constant shadow slightly unnerving.
26:57Wherever you are, the dog is, Harry is, and Richard is.
27:01Yes.
27:02That's how you like it?
27:03It is.
27:04Why?
27:05Well, because Richard's my valet and he's my security.
27:09And then Harry's my assistant.
27:10So our job never ends, so his job never ends.
27:14You know, if I'm working, he's working.
27:16You know, and that's the same for most of the staff.
27:18They know that.
27:19If I have to work, they're working with me.
27:21It's not a one-man show and it's not faulty towers.
27:24I rely on people.
27:26You know, I'm not running from the desks to this to that.
27:28I need the people around me to help.
27:30According to reports, Barry earns around tens of millions a year from his cosmetic research
27:36company, his surrogacy agency and other investments.
27:39How does someone that wealthy manage his fortune?
27:42So it literally is.
27:44Oh, literally like you would shave your legs?
27:46Shave your legs.
27:47And how often do you have to do this?
27:49Really about every other week.
27:52But I've probably got about ten groomers that work for me full time.
27:56You've got ten groomers, Barry?
27:58Yeah.
27:58How many members of staff in total do you think you have?
28:01Just over 500 members of staff between all of our businesses.
28:07Does that weigh heavy?
28:08Yeah, it does.
28:09Sometimes I wake up in a cold sweat when I think I've got payroll that week.
28:14And what do your outgoings look like?
28:17Oh, you don't even want to go there, love.
28:19I mean, obscene.
28:21Obscene.
28:22Small, small, poor country's deficit, mate.
28:25You don't know me well enough, but if you'd have been able to spend like a month with me or something, you would see how much I work non-stop.
28:35Yeah.
28:35All my kids have got that, apart from Saffron, I've got that total workaholic kind of thing.
28:43So why do you think Saffron hasn't inherited that work ethic?
28:49I think it's totally my fault.
28:51It's too late for her now.
28:53Really what she needed was one of those very wealthy husbands.
28:58What's the most outrageous thing you've bought little Valentina?
29:01Me and Scott bought Valentina an apartment in Miami, Miami Beach.
29:07And so do you, do you intend on raising Valentina differently to Saffron?
29:15Yeah, 100%.
29:16She's definitely going to work.
29:18I'm going to train her to be my little mini-me.
29:22Barry's money enabled him to create his own family by design in America.
29:28This afternoon, he's having a catch-up with Heidi, who lives in California, the surrogate of their youngest child, Romeo.
29:35Hi.
29:38Hello.
29:39Hello.
29:40Hi.
29:41Hi.
29:41How are you?
29:42I'm good.
29:44Very nice to meet you.
29:45The laws in the States allow surrogates to be paid handsomely.
29:49How does turning childbirth into a lucrative transaction affect the carrier of the child?
29:55You carried Romeo.
29:56Please may you talk me through how that all played out.
29:59So, I had been a surrogate two times before I met Barry and Scott.
30:05And then I saw on Facebook that there was a famous couple looking for a surrogate.
30:12And so I was intrigued.
30:14And we got to meet each other and we talked.
30:17And I couldn't say no.
30:19Like, Barry and Scott, they're just so lovely.
30:21So, you have carried three children for two families.
30:26Correct.
30:27How does it feel carrying a baby that you know isn't yours?
30:31For me, it's not making that connection.
30:35It's fun having those moments, like when you're feeling the baby kick and stuff like that.
30:40But the most special part for me is being able to share that with the parents and them being able to kind of experience it with you since they can't experience that process.
30:52Why do you do it?
30:54Yeah, even when I was younger, I would hear people say that they struggle with infertility.
31:01And it was just like a natural reaction to be like, oh, I'll carry your baby.
31:05You know, everybody watching this will be thinking, did you do it for financial purposes?
31:12Did you do it for financial gain?
31:14It's a perk.
31:16Is it a lot of money?
31:18At the beginning, no.
31:20Barry and Scott, they did pay heavily.
31:24And that was very nice of them.
31:27So, you're the extra that they gave as well.
31:31But financially, no.
31:32When I met Barry and Scott, I already owned two homes.
31:36We have four cars.
31:38You know, we don't live paycheck to paycheck.
31:41So, no, I didn't do it for the money.
31:44It's nice to have it because it is a lot that you're putting your body through.
31:49What are we talking, sort of ballpark figure?
31:52It was $25,000 for the first pregnancy.
31:56Then the second time around when we did it, we cut out the agency because, obviously, we knew each other.
32:04We were comfortable.
32:05And I had only asked for $35,000.
32:11So, we're going to let you go.
32:12But thank you so much for talking to us.
32:15Thanks, Heidi.
32:16Heidi's perspective on carrying children that will never be her own is fascinating.
32:20And she's not the only participant in the process.
32:24And how did you find your egg donor?
32:26The egg donor we found on a catwalk.
32:30A model?
32:31In Miami.
32:32What drew you to her?
32:33Initially, her looks?
32:34It was her looks, completely.
32:35And you're honest about that?
32:37Oh, am I absolutely honest about it?
32:38Why the hell not?
32:39When I saw her on the catwalk, I looked at Scott and I went, oh, fuck, she is stunning.
32:46I tell you, her legs were six feet in the air.
32:49We've got hundreds of those models on our books right now.
32:52That reasoning, from your point of view, will infuriate some people.
32:57Absolutely.
32:58Just buying a baby.
32:59That's what people say.
33:01A beautiful baby.
33:02Well, most people could do a lot worse than spend one month of their life on drugs to
33:09give some embryos for 50 grand.
33:12Oof.
33:13Do you worry it's a slippery slope if we just start saying, oh, we just want beautiful kids?
33:18No.
33:19Really?
33:20That's so interesting.
33:21Well, what do you want me to say?
33:22No, we need to be honest.
33:23We need ugly ones as well.
33:24Me, I just...
33:25Oh, sorry, I just can't lie.
33:26No, but which, listen, I would much prefer to have...
33:28Nobody wants an ugly kid.
33:29Sometimes we get them, but we don't always want them.
33:32And we deal with it and carry it on.
33:34I just don't think that would be a priority for me.
33:37If I were to go down that route, the idea that it's got to be stunning, I think that's
33:41what gives people...
33:42That's what rubs them up the wrong way.
33:44Well, I really couldn't give a flying fuck about rubbing anybody up the wrong way.
33:48That's not what I'm about.
33:49I couldn't care less.
33:50But, in an honest world, you want your kids to have a chance.
34:01Barry's extreme obsession with looks is not something I subscribe to.
34:05But having constant conversations about childbirth, as if it's such a straightforward process,
34:12strikes a chord with me.
34:13You know, I've experienced what it's like to struggle to have a child.
34:27We obviously wanted to expand our family, and then last year I fell pregnant.
34:33And then actually it was, you know, it didn't go brilliantly.
34:37Anyway, it was ectopic.
34:46I'm so sorry because this is so predictable.
34:49Like, sat here crying on a bed.
34:52It was ectopic and, you know, it was really fucking difficult.
34:56It was like...
34:58There was an internal rupture and there had to be, like, emergency surgery and...
35:07You know, of course, when you go through something like that,
35:09you're forced to think about alternatives.
35:16But, you know, shit happens.
35:18And then, if you want a, you know, if you want a bigger family,
35:23you have to think about how you're going to do that.
35:27It's my final day with the Druitt Barlow family in Essex.
35:40Hello!
35:41How are you going?
35:43It's so nice to meet you.
35:44Four of Barry's children from his relationship with his first husband
35:47have flown in from Florida,
35:49where they split their time with their other dad.
35:51So, this is Aspen, Stacey.
35:55And Aspen is Saffron's twin.
35:58This is Orlando.
35:59He was actually created at the same time as Aspen and Saffron,
36:04only he was put on ice and then born three years later.
36:08Wow!
36:09I know.
36:09That's so cool.
36:11This is Jasper.
36:12And this one is Dallas.
36:14And they're twins too.
36:16Great.
36:16Yeah.
36:17Incredible.
36:17And you're all, you're all tight.
36:19You're all sort of, you know.
36:21Group hug!
36:22Group hug!
36:23Come on, come on.
36:24They're like dad.
36:25Come on, come on, come on.
36:27Yay!
36:28Over the weekends, I've learnt how Barry's fortune
36:31has allowed him to spoil his blended family with huge gifts.
36:35And before I leave, I'll get the chance to experience
36:38the most recent extravagant acquisition
36:40he's bought for his long-term partner, Scott.
36:44Moulden and Tiptree have their biggest game of the season,
36:46and it's another chance for Barry to take centre stage.
36:50So does everybody know what they're doing?
36:53Everyone knows.
36:54So we've got a hospitality...
36:55Will you stop talking, you fucking rabbit?
36:58Although the club was bought for Scott,
37:00it's quite clear who's in charge.
37:02Where's David's...
37:03No, not you.
37:04Chef David.
37:06Mr Wu?
37:08Wu's there.
37:09I need David and Mr Wu to put on a brilliant spread.
37:13Then we've got a new barmaid who's going to help out on the bar,
37:17and you're going to look after her, aren't you?
37:20Show her how to pull the pints and how to take the money
37:22and all that kind of stuff.
37:23Any questions from anybody else?
37:25All right, we're going to finish there.
37:27All of you find your jobs and what you're doing
37:29and all of that kind of stuff.
37:30If you need any help, look for Stacey Doolish.
37:34She's our supervisor today.
37:35OK, good luck, everyone.
37:37And if you've got any questions, just ask.
37:40Yeah?
37:41Come on!
37:47Before he puts me to work,
37:49I'm eager to learn how the outside criticism of Barry
37:52affects those closest to him.
37:54I think with Barry, some people are so sort of starry-eyed
37:57in terms of what he's achieved historically.
38:00And with anyone who's public-facing,
38:02other people don't echo those praises.
38:04How do you feel, boys?
38:06Because that's your dad.
38:08I think we've had it for so long,
38:09he's always been criticised by people.
38:11I think a lot of people like to think they know my dad
38:13when they don't,
38:14because they just see what's on the television.
38:15And that's obviously a bit more dramatised
38:18and he's going to be a bit more flamboyant
38:20and things like that.
38:20But in reality, he's a really caring dad.
38:22And he likes to take care of people
38:23that mean important to him,
38:25who are important to him, so, yeah.
38:28To me, my dad's my hero.
38:29I know it sounds a bit cringy to say,
38:31but I look up to my dad,
38:32so anything they say to them,
38:33it doesn't really mean anything to me.
38:35They can say anything they want about my parents,
38:37but I know who they are
38:38and what they mean to me, so.
38:39So your dad's your hero?
38:43Sounds a bit...
38:43When you say it like that, it sounds a bit...
38:45But, yeah.
38:47I look up to both my parents a lot, yeah.
38:49That's right,
38:49because Tony's your other father.
38:51Yeah.
38:51Yeah, yeah, yeah.
38:51Both my dads mean the world to me, yeah.
38:53They've done so much for me
38:54and they've done so much for all of us.
38:55And what do you reckon, Jasper?
38:56How would you describe your father?
38:57I'd say the same thing, probably.
38:59He's very fair,
39:00but, you know,
39:01you just have to act in the proper way
39:04and he'll treat you fair.
39:07Saffron, are you going to work at the club?
39:09Yeah.
39:10What are you going to do?
39:11Whatever he wants me to do.
39:13Anything to keep him happy
39:14and make him happy,
39:15I'll do it.
39:17Here is she!
39:18Half!
39:19She actually got out of bed
39:22to put a piece on
39:23and came out to work!
39:26She's just been saying
39:27how she can't wait for you
39:28to put her to work.
39:29Oh, my God.
39:30Oh, my God.
39:37A bud and a Stella.
39:38A bud and a Stella.
39:40Look at that.
39:44It's my one talent.
39:46After making sure
39:47everyone's got their pre-match pint,
39:49it's finally kick-off.
39:56And it seems I've given
39:58Barry and Scott some competition
39:59when it comes to popularity
40:01on the terraces.
40:07Come here, let's shoot!
40:08Come on!
40:10Yeah!
40:10Maldon have taken an early lead
40:26and spirits are high in the stands.
40:28I'm interested to hear
40:29how supporters have taken
40:30to their new boss.
40:32What are your thoughts
40:33on Barry as an owner?
40:35He's a legend.
40:36What have you made
40:37of what he has brought
40:39to your club?
40:40There's a lot of sceptics
40:41about Barry.
40:42Obviously, people read
40:43about things,
40:44read stories,
40:45but it's give and take,
40:46you know,
40:46he's got a heart of gold
40:48and he's proven it as well.
40:49Barry bought our club,
40:50but we adopted Barry
40:51at the same time,
40:51so he's going to love him
40:53in a short space of time.
40:54Not just because
40:55he's completely loaded.
40:56That helps!
40:57That helps!
40:59He's got a heart of gold
41:00and he shows it to all of us.
41:02He's generally a casey.
41:02He's a nice guy.
41:03Since the moment he's come here,
41:04he's cared about the community.
41:05It's amazing.
41:06You've made me cry,
41:07you fuckers,
41:08I'm gay!
41:09He's proved us all wrong.
41:11Proved a lot of people wrong.
41:12David!
41:14Yeah!
41:21Barry's extreme wealth
41:40has allowed him to control
41:42so many aspects of his life.
41:44How his family was created,
41:45the staff around him
41:47and now a legion of football fans.
41:49His unapologetic views
41:51and dominant personality
41:53may be offensive to some,
41:54but it feels like
41:56those close to him
41:57are happy to be taken along
41:58for the ride.
42:02What a way to end the weekend.
42:04You just must be on cloud nine.
42:06I am.
42:07I'm on cloud nine.
42:07I'm way above that.
42:09But listen,
42:09I'll leave you to it.
42:10Thank you so much
42:10for this weekend.
42:12I really appreciate it.
42:14All the best.
42:15Thank you, Barry.
42:16Oh, you're welcome.
42:17Thank you for your time.
42:18Come back again.
42:18I will, yeah.
42:20Up the jammers.
42:20Up the jammers.
42:22Have a lovely evening celebrating.
42:23See you later, thank you.
42:24Up the jammers!
42:28I think for sure,
42:29like, it's totally fair to say
42:30that, like, Barry
42:30is a divisive character.
42:33You know,
42:33some people
42:33really love him.
42:35Some people think
42:36his ambition
42:36and, you know,
42:38his can-do,
42:39sort of no-shit approach
42:40is brilliant
42:41and other people don't.
42:43So it's been, yeah,
42:46it's been hugely enlightening.
42:48An amazing end
42:49to a fascinating weekend.
42:52I'm off to go
42:53and have a bath
42:54because I stink of beer.
42:55and I'm like,
42:56yeah.
42:58You know,
43:00I feel...
43:12I will transform you
43:20I feel...
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