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Disaster Tranbian episode 73
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00:00Following the shooting, Mateen's father stated in an online video in his native language,
00:06quote, in this month of Ramadan, the gay and lesbian issue is something that God will punish,
00:13though the servants of God shouldn't have anything to do with it.
00:18One of the major roadblocks towards LGBT rights and protection within Pakistan is the religious establishment.
00:30So, basically, Mateen is from the LGBTQ community and he was interested about Islam.
00:52I mean, he is still interested, I'm sorry.
00:54He's still interested about Islam and he was, you know, agnostic for a very long time, for a couple of years.
01:02And he basically found something in Islam, something attracted him to Islam.
01:07But the problem is, to him, that he is a member of the LGBTQ community.
01:13And he doesn't know that the Muslim community will be or does it contradict being a Muslim and homosexual or being a Muslim and gay?
01:28Does, you know, is there a contradiction?
01:31Can you even be a Muslim and gay at the same time?
01:34There is no doubt, there is absolutely no shred of doubt that being homosexual, being gay, is a sin in Islam and in all the religions, right?
01:50But we're talking about Islam here for now, but every religion, every single religion, consider homosexuality is a major sin.
01:57But here is the point, because there's a big misconception, so I want to talk about it right now.
02:05Being gay without acting upon it, being gay, like having feelings for the same gender, for the same sex, is not sinful.
02:17You're not sinful when you have gay thoughts.
02:22Allah, Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala does not ever hold us accountable for our thoughts.
02:28Straight sex doesn't have to be gay, you know, or homosexual.
02:34That's also, that's called adultery, right?
02:36If you want to have sex before marriage with someone from the opposite sex, this is a major sin.
02:42And there's so many ahadith about the people of Lot.
02:47Lot is a prophet of Allah, just to let you know, Lut, in Arabic, Lut, Qawmulut.
02:51Qawmulut, or the people of Lut.
02:53Lut is a prophet of Allah.
02:55Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala sent him to those people who did not listen,
02:59and they kept engaging in their, you know, having the relationship with the same gender.
03:06And Allah punished the people, by the way, and it was a very, very powerful punishment.
03:13It's mentioned in all of our books.
03:15It's all, it's all documented in the Qur'an, in the seerah, in the sunnah.
03:21That, not the seerah, the sunnah.
03:23And they were basically, Allah sent Angel Gabriel, and Angel Gabriel lifted the entire town
03:31on his, one of his wings, and went up to the, I think, the seventh heaven or something like that.
03:38And then he flipped it upside down and crushed it back to earth.
03:43So went back to earth, he threw it back.
03:45So he left the town, took a slice of that town, and then he left it all up,
03:51and then he put it back upside down until it was, you know, everybody in the middle was squished,
03:56except the believers, or those who listened to Prophet Lut, left the town,
04:00because Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala commanded Lut and all the believers with him and his family
04:05to leave the town before this happened.
04:09Now, seems very harsh, right?
04:12Now, here's the thing.
04:13This is not surprising.
04:15That doesn't mean anything, by the way.
04:17That doesn't mean that this should happen to gay people right now.
04:20No, no, no, no, no, no, no.
04:22Here's the thing.
04:23Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala, from Allah's traditions, is when Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala tells you,
04:28tells you to do something, and he sends you a Prophet,
04:33and you disobey the Prophet directly, like straight up,
04:37Allah subhanahu wa ta'ala punishes you on the spot.
04:40And it's a big punishment.
04:42So, and this is known.
04:44Moses, what happened to the people of Fir'aun?
04:48Allah split the sea, drowned them, blood and rivers of blood, or whatever the stories are, the horrifying stories.
04:55You know, the people of Ad, the people of Thamud, all those people, all those civilizations,
05:01they disobeyed, and it doesn't matter regarding what.
05:05Like, the idea is not about the homosexuality here.
05:09It's about disobeying a messenger that was sent by Allah while the messenger is alive.
05:13He's with us right now, and you say no to him, even though he proved to you that he's a messenger of Allah,
05:18and he did prove to them, but they still disobeyed.
05:21And what happened when anybody, any nation disobeys the messenger while the messenger is alive,
05:28Allah sends his punishment immediately.
05:31This was all the bad news.
05:35I got the bad news out of the way.
05:38The good news is, yes, you can be a Muslim and be gay.
05:43No problem.
05:44It does not make you not Muslim.
05:46It does not nullify the fact that you are Muslim.
05:50We talked about the nullifiers of Islam in the past couple of episodes.
05:53You can go back and see exactly the conditions and what makes you not Muslim anymore.
05:58I mean, once you become a Muslim, of course.
06:01You can be a Muslim and drink alcohol.
06:05You can be a Muslim and, you know, commit adultery with the opposite sex.
06:12You still can be a Muslim.
06:14That doesn't take away from the Islam.
06:16But you're going to be a Muslim with the sin.
06:20So, again, many of us have major sins in their lives.
06:25All of us have regular sins.
06:27Many, many, many, many of us have major sins.
06:30But isn't that a sin?
06:32Or just about everything is a sin.
06:34You ever sat down and read this thing?
06:36Technically, we're not allowed to go to the bathroom.
06:39And we ask Allah for, you know, we repent to Allah.
06:41We ask Allah for forgiveness.
06:42Now, here's the issue.
06:51Being gay or being from the LGBTQ community and being a Muslim should not contradict each other.
06:58You're still going to be a Muslim.
06:59It's that simple.
07:04But if you're asking, is it haram, is it a major sin?
07:07Absolutely it is.
07:08I would have loved to tell you, no, it's not.
07:11But unfortunately, it is.
07:12There is so many evidence from the Quran itself.
07:14Allah's creation is perfect, no matter what.
07:20But not when it comes to actions.
07:22Now, Allah mentions in the Quran numerously that he has the perfect creation.
07:31God.
07:32You became people immortal.
07:34God has a woman born!
07:38God has a great effect right now.
07:41And, you're worth the trouble.
07:41And, you're worth the pain.
07:43And, you're worth the worry.
07:44I would do the same.
07:46If we all went back to another time.
07:49I will love you over.
07:52I will love you over.
07:55I will love you.
07:56If they follow you
08:06Don't look back
08:09Like Dylan and the movies
08:11On your own
08:15If they follow you
08:18Tenderly you turn the light
08:21I'm in your room
08:24Allah says in the chapter of teen
08:28I created mankind in the best
08:32Most perfect way possible
08:34Allah is talking about our brains
08:36How they are placed in our skulls
08:39Our hands and the mechanism of movement
08:41And the network of our brains
08:42And the movement of our bodies
08:44Legs and stomach
08:45And the heart pumping
08:47This whole process is so complex
08:50But it's perfect
08:52There's no flaw in it
08:54And sometimes you'll see people
08:55You know are born with certain defects
08:57But they are born with certain defects on purpose
08:59Allah is testing certain people
09:01Either them or their families
09:03There is a wisdom of that
09:04One person could be good
09:06One person could be horrible
09:07You know what I mean?
09:09So that's what is meant by
09:11The perfect creation
09:12The physical creation
09:15Of all of mankind
09:16So again like I said
09:19Being gay
09:20And being Muslim
09:22They do not contradict
09:24You could be Muslim
09:25You could be Muslim
09:26And you could drink liquor
09:27Alcohol
09:28You could be Muslim
09:30And you know
09:31Not
09:32Not being married
09:34And having you know
09:35Relationships without marriage
09:36You could
09:36That does not take you out of the fold of Islam
09:38It makes you
09:39Makes your faith
09:41Way less
09:42Because you're basically
09:43Doing what Allah
09:44Has forbade us to do
09:46Islam won't look
09:48Look at you
09:48Like you're any less
09:49Of a human being
09:50That's very incorrect
09:51And if somebody does this
09:52Then there are two Muslims
09:53The Wall Street Journal
09:56Reported Martine's ex-wife
09:58As saying that
09:59Quote
09:59He did feel strongly
10:01About homosexuality
10:03When asked
10:05If Martine was gay
10:07His ex-wife said
10:08She didn't know
10:09And recalled that
10:11He had confessed
10:12To going to nightclubs
10:14On June 16th
10:17The New York Times
10:18Reported
10:19That the FBI
10:20Was skeptical
10:21Of reports
10:22That Martine was gay
10:23But closeted
10:24And that he had made use
10:25Of homosexual bars
10:27And apps
10:27On June 18th
10:30The same source
10:31Added that
10:32Federal officials say
10:34They have found no evidence
10:36In his effects
10:37Or online presence
10:38To back them up
10:39On June 23rd
10:41The Los Angeles Times
10:43Reported
10:43That the FBI
10:44Had found no evidence
10:46To support claims
10:47By those who say
10:48Martine had gay lovers
10:50Or communicated on
10:51Gay dating apps
10:53Investigators consider
10:55At least one claimant
10:57Of homosexual relationships
10:58With Martine
10:59As not credible
11:01A man
11:04Who self-identified
11:05As Martine's lover
11:06Of two months
11:07Miguel
11:08Had said that
11:09He believed the massacre
11:10Was committed
11:11In revenge against
11:12Latino men
11:13Following Martine
11:14Learning that
11:15He may have been
11:16Exposed to HIV
11:17From a Puerto Rican man
11:19With whom he had sex
11:21However
11:22Martine's autopsy results
11:24Confirmed that
11:25He was HIV negative
11:27On June 25th
11:29The New York Times
11:30Reported
11:30That after
11:31Exhaustive investigation
11:33With help from the FBI
11:35The gay dating network
11:36Adam for Adam
11:37Concluded that
11:39Martine had never
11:40Used its app
11:41With regard to reports
11:42Of Martine using it
11:44And other dating sites
11:46And apps for gay men
11:48And Adam for Adam
11:49Spokesman said
11:50Quote
11:51I think it was
11:52A hoax
11:52Furthermore
11:55The article stated
11:56That after
11:57500 interviews
11:57The FBI
11:59Had not found
12:01Any evidence
12:02Of homosexuality
12:03Through Martine's
12:05Web searches
12:05Emails
12:06Or other electronic data
12:08The FBI
12:09However
12:10Quote
12:11Has found evidence
12:13That Martine was
12:14Cheating on his wife
12:15With other women
12:27For being with us
12:45I'm Justin Wormuth
12:46The fire is now
12:46Being investigated
12:47As a possible arson
12:49Kirsten O'Connor
12:49Joins us live
12:50In studio now
12:50And Kirsten
12:51This is all happening
12:52On the three month mark
12:53Of the mass shooting
12:54To the date
12:55Yes Justin
12:56It is still not clear
12:57Though if there's
12:57Any connection
12:58To Omar Mateen
12:59The Pulse nightclub shooter
13:00Who used to worship
13:02At this mosque
13:03The sheriff's office
13:03In St. Lucie County
13:05Isn't commenting
13:05On a motive just yet
13:06But they do say
13:07There is clear evidence
13:08That shows the fire
13:09Was set intentionally
13:11And now for the first time
13:12We are seeing the damage
13:13Done in the daylight
13:14Lots of questions
13:15Being asked tonight
13:17The local Muslim community
13:19On edge
13:20Police looking
13:21For a fire bomber
13:22This is what
13:23A fire bomb will do
13:25Fire investigators
13:26Working in the
13:27Exterior of the
13:28Islamic center
13:28In Fort Pierce
13:30Heavily damaged
13:31This is how it went down
13:33Early this morning
13:35A man on a motorcycle
13:36Races by the mosque
13:37A short time later
13:39Surveillance video
13:40Catches the flash of flames
13:41As the device goes off
13:43It is intense
13:44The subject involved runs
13:46Locals see the flames
13:48And they call 9-1-1
13:49Of course because
13:50This is a place of worship
13:52And of course
13:54Because this incident
13:55Occurred on the anniversary
13:56Of 9-11
13:57We are going to explore that
13:58And the temper of the times
14:00The election
14:00The division of the country
14:01Part of the brew
14:02That might have generated
14:03This act
14:04Whether this is a retaliation
14:06Or some type of vengeance
14:07That's unacceptable
14:08Nobody's hurt in the fire
14:10Local Muslims
14:12Members of the Muslim community
14:13Say no way
14:14They're going to be
14:15Forced out of town
14:16I'm Hank Tester
14:18CBS4 News Tonight
14:19I have clearly said
14:34That we faced
14:35Terrorist enemies
14:37Who use a perverted
14:38Version of Islam
14:40To justify
14:41Slaughtering innocent people
14:43We have to stop them
14:45And we will
14:46So if Donald suggests
14:48I won't call this threat
14:49What it is
14:50He hasn't been listening
14:52But I will not
14:54Demonize and declare war
14:56On an entire religion
14:58And
14:59Now that we are
15:13Past the semantic debate
15:15Donald's going to have
15:16To come up
15:17With something better
15:18He's got one other idea
15:20He wants to ban
15:21All Muslims
15:22From entering our country
15:24And now he wants
15:25To go even further
15:26And suspend all immigration
15:28From large parts
15:29Of the world
15:30First
15:31We rely on partners
15:33In Muslim countries
15:35To fight terrorists
15:36Second
15:37We need to build trust
15:40In Muslim communities
15:41Here at home
15:42To counter radicalization
15:44And this
15:45Would make it
15:46Harder
15:47Third
15:48Trump's words
15:50Will be
15:51In fact
15:51They already are
15:52A recruiting tool
15:54For ISIS
15:55To help them
15:56Increase
15:57Its ranks
15:58Of people willing
16:00To do what we saw
16:01In Orlando
16:02Every mass tragedy
16:05Begets a frantic
16:07Search for answers
16:08For a common
16:09Understanding of what
16:10Happened
16:11For a narrative
16:12In the 2016 Pulse
16:14Massacre
16:15Was no different
16:16Not long after
16:17Omar Mateen
16:18Opened fire
16:20Inside a bustling
16:21Gay nightclub
16:22In Orlando, Florida
16:23The media scrambled
16:24To understand
16:25His depraved actions
16:27Almost overnight
16:29A narrative emerged
16:31That until now
16:32Has been impossible
16:33To dislodge
16:35Mateen planned
16:36And executed
16:36An attack on Pulse
16:38Because he hated
16:38Gay people
16:39Let's say it plainly
16:41This was a mass slaying
16:43Aimed at LGBT people
16:45Tim Weiman wrote
16:46In the Daily Beast
16:47The massacre was
16:49Undeniably a homophobic
16:51Hate crime
16:52Jeet Here
16:53Wrote in the New Republic
16:55Some speculated
16:56That Mateen
16:57Was a closeted
16:58Gay man
16:59He was likely
17:00Trying to reconcile
17:01His inner feelings
17:02With his strongly
17:04Homophobic Muslim culture
17:05James S. Robbins
17:07Wrote in USA Today
17:09There was compelling
17:10Evidence
17:11Of other motivations
17:12Mateen had pledged
17:14Allegiance
17:15To the self-described
17:16Islamic State
17:17During the shooting
17:18And explicitly said
17:20That he was acting
17:21To avenge
17:22Airstrikes
17:22In the Middle East
17:23You have to tell
17:24America to stop
17:25Bombing Syria
17:26And Iraq
17:27They are killing
17:28Lots of innocent people
17:29He told a crisis
17:30Negotiator over the phone
17:32While at Pulse
17:33What am I to do here
17:34When my people
17:35Are getting killed
17:35Over there
17:36You get what I'm saying
17:37But this was a tricky
17:39Thing to get a handle on
17:4049 dead
17:41And another 53 wounded
17:43So many of them
17:44Members of a historically
17:46Marginalized
17:46And persecuted group
17:48How could they not
17:49Have been targeted
17:50To say that the attack
17:52Was not rooted in homophobia
17:54One commenter wrote
17:55In USA Today
17:56Was to erase
17:57The LGBT community
17:59Causing only more pain
18:01By invalidating
18:02Their experiences
18:04Mateen's widow
18:06Nor Salmon
18:07Was tried for having
18:09Allegedly helped him
18:10Plan his attack
18:11The popular understanding
18:13Of the Pulse shooting
18:14As a carefully targeted
18:16Massacre
18:17Was on trial as well
18:19And in acquitting
18:20Salmon
18:21A jury
18:21Also delivered a verdict
18:23On the story
18:23We told ourselves
18:24About the killings
18:25We'd gotten it wrong
18:27In the wake of the shooting
18:32The media and public
18:33Focused on certain details
18:34Many of which were later
18:36Determined to be unfounded
18:38And discounted others
18:40Like Mateen's own
18:41Explanation for his actions
18:43If Mateen had indeed
18:45Been motivated by something
18:46Other than homophobia
18:48The grief and terror
18:49Of the gay community
18:50Were no less real
18:52No less urgent for it
18:53But the narrative
18:55That was repeated
18:56And turned into fact
18:57That Omar Mateen
18:58Had picked Pulse
18:59Because of who
19:00Its patrons were
19:01And what they represented
19:03Had the effect
19:04Of obscuring
19:05Another smaller injustice
19:07The prosecution
19:08Of Mateen's wife
19:09A Muslim woman
19:10Who by her family's account
19:12Was beaten by Mateen
19:13Lawyers painted
19:14Two very different pictures
19:16Of Noor Salmon today
19:17On one hand
19:18A former special ed student
19:20Who loved Hello Kitty
19:21On the other
19:22A manipulator
19:23Who knew exactly
19:24What her husband
19:25Omar Mateen
19:26Was planning to do
19:27The night that he went
19:28On a killing rampage
19:29At a Florida nightclub
19:31Last June
19:31He shot 49 people
19:33To death
19:33And wounded 53 others
19:35Before police
19:36Killed him
19:37Prosecutors say
19:38Salmon admitted
19:39To the FBI
19:40That she had cased
19:41The club with Mateen
19:42Before the attack
19:43As well as
19:44Downtown Disney
19:45And that the couple
19:45Discussed which target
19:47Might make people
19:48More upset
19:49Prosecutors also say
19:50She saw her husband
19:51Walk out of the house
19:52The night of the attack
19:53With a gun
19:54And ammunition
19:55But the defense says
19:56She didn't know
19:57His intentions
19:58Wasn't religious
19:59And had no motive
20:00Or role to play
20:02Had any contact
20:03With ISIS
20:04Watched anything
20:05Done anything herself
20:07You know what she is?
20:09She's alive
20:10Solomon might have been
20:34A sympathetic figure
20:35In a different context
20:37But I think now
20:38Of Bob Kunst's
20:39Sign
20:40A long time
20:41Human rights activist
20:43Kunst
20:43Was protesting
20:45Outside the federal courthouse
20:46Just two miles
20:48From the nightclub
20:48Where the tragedy occurred
20:49As Solomon's trial began
20:52Fry her
20:53His sign read
20:54Till she has no pulse
20:56It didn't seem
20:57To occur to many people
20:58That North Solomon
20:59Might have been a victim
21:00Of Mateen 2
21:01The media missed the story
21:03Charles Swift
21:04One of Solomon's lawyers
21:06Investigators said
21:06Because they depended
21:07On the government
21:08To tell it to them
21:09Bad idea
21:11Mateen may very well
21:13Have been homophobic
21:15He supported ISIS
21:16After all
21:17And his father
21:18Told NBC
21:19That his son
21:19Once got angry
21:20After seeing two men
21:21Kissing
21:22But whatever
21:23His personal feelings
21:24The overwhelming evidence
21:26Suggests
21:26His attack
21:27Was not motivated
21:28By it
21:29As far as
21:32Investigators could tell
21:33Mateen had never
21:35Been to Pulse before
21:36Whether as a patron
21:37Or to case the nightclub
21:39Even prosecutors
21:41Acknowledged in their
21:42Closing statements
21:43That Pulse was not
21:45His original target
21:46It was the Disney Springs
21:47Shopping and Entertainment
21:48Complex
21:49They presented evidence
21:51Demonstrating that
21:52Mateen chose Pulse
21:53Randomly
21:54Less than an hour
21:55Before the attack
21:56It is not clear
21:58He even knew
21:59It was a gay bar
22:00A security guard
22:01Recalled Mateen
22:02Asking where all
22:03The women were
22:04Apparently in earnest
22:06In the minutes
22:07Before he began
22:08His slaughter
22:09In her news conference
22:14On June 21st, 2016
22:17Then U.S. Attorney General
22:19Loretta Lynch
22:20Called the attack
22:21Quote
22:21An act of terror
22:23And an act of hate
22:24And pledged to examine
22:26All possible motivations
22:27For Mateen's actions
22:28Seven months
22:30After the shooting
22:31Solomon was hit
22:33With federal terrorism
22:34Charges
22:35For allegedly aiding
22:36And abetting her husband
22:38But hate crime charges
22:39Never came
22:40And now you know why
22:41Said Swift
22:42Despite the overwhelming
22:44Public consensus
22:45There apparently
22:47Wasn't enough evidence
22:48For a hate crime
22:49Classification
22:50In fact
22:51The 2016 hate crimes
22:53In Florida report
22:54Does not include
22:56The 49 victims
22:57Of the Pulse shooting
22:58In its official total
22:59These crimes
23:00Were not classified
23:01As hate crimes
23:02By the Orlando
23:03Police Department
23:04From the start
23:06The evidence
23:07Against Solomon
23:07Was paper thin
23:09And hinged on
23:10A quote
23:10Confession
23:11That an FBI agent
23:13Handwrote for her
23:14After an 11 hour
23:16Interrogation
23:17In the immediate
23:18Aftermath of the massacre
23:19That was neither
23:21Filmed
23:21Nor recorded
23:22Her lawyers
23:24Maintained the statement
23:25Was coerced
23:26In it
23:27Solomon claimed
23:28She knew
23:29Maintain was headed
23:30To Pulse that night
23:31And that they'd scouted
23:32The location together
23:33But within a few days
23:35Of the massacre
23:35The government
23:36Had reason to believe
23:37Her statement was false
23:38Based on data
23:40From their cell phones
23:41In practice
23:42There are two varieties
23:44Of lies
23:44And dishonest actions
23:46By the police
23:47Those which are
23:48Questionable
23:49But perfectly legal
23:50And those which are
23:51Illegal
23:52But are done
23:53All the time anyway
23:54In the case of the former
23:55Laws that permit
23:57Reasonable deception
23:58By the police
23:59Have been codified
24:00Both locally
24:01And by the Supreme Court
24:02In landmark cases
24:04That have granted
24:05More and more leeway
24:06To the police
24:06Over time
24:07Now you are handcuffed
24:09And trapped in a room
24:10With poor lighting
24:11You have seen enough movies
24:13To know that you are
24:14About to be interrogated
24:15What you may not realize
24:17Is that the police
24:17Are about to lie to you
24:19Over and over
24:20To trick you
24:21Into confessing
24:22They either want you
24:23To confess to something
24:24That you did not do
24:25Or confess to something
24:26Small that you did do
24:28While telling you
24:29That if you do this
24:30There will be few
24:31If any
24:31Consequences
24:32The police have so many lies
24:34They can tell
24:35And the courts
24:36Almost always back them up
24:37People v. Steger
24:38Says the police
24:39Can lie to you
24:40About what will happen
24:41To your friends
24:41If you don't confess
24:43Frasier v. Kupp
24:44Says the police
24:45Can lie about
24:46Someone else confessing
24:47To the suspect's
24:48Involvement in a crime
24:49Prompting them to confess
24:51Whether they did it or not
24:52These tactics
24:53Sometimes create
24:54False confessions
24:55Especially considering
24:57People v. Guerrell
24:58Says the police
24:59Can pretend
25:00That they have enough
25:01Evidence to put the suspect
25:02Away for a long time
25:03And that confessing
25:05Is their best way
25:06To avoid
25:06A lengthier sentence
25:08Say
25:08I want
25:10A lawyer
25:11Any mild ambiguity
25:13Allows police officers
25:15To claim
25:15That your request
25:16Was unclear
25:17Even when it is obvious
25:18They know exactly
25:19What you are asking
25:20Any claim
25:21From the officer
25:22That you are not
25:23In trouble
25:24And that they only
25:24Want to talk
25:25Is a lie
25:26If you have been arrested
25:28Trouble has found you
25:30The officer is only
25:31Trying to make you
25:32Put down your guard
25:33Never speak to the police
25:35During interrogation
25:36Or sign anything
25:37Without a lawyer present
25:38Do not sign
25:39The Miranda Rights Waiver
25:41The police may
25:42Continue asking you
25:43Questions
25:43Even after you
25:44Have requested
25:45A lawyer
25:46This is a common tactic
25:47But you are
25:48Under no obligation
25:49To answer these
25:50Questions alone
25:51They're hoping
25:52You will slip up
25:53And say something
25:54Incriminating
25:55Or make a false confession
25:56The only thing
25:58You should say
25:58Is your request
26:00For a lawyer
26:00Repeated the exact
26:02Same way
26:03Each time
26:03So that they know
26:04You are stonewalling them
26:06And that there is
26:07No hope
26:07In interrogating you
26:09Before the lawyer arrives
26:10Police are hoping
26:11That the wait
26:12Between the arrest
26:13And the arrival
26:14Of your lawyer
26:14Will be enough
26:15To make you crack
26:16On the night
26:17Of the attack
26:18Martine first went
26:19To Disney Springs
26:21And Eve Orlando
26:22Both of which
26:23Had heavy
26:24Visible security
26:25Before ending up
26:27At Pulse
26:27After a Google search
26:28For quote
26:29Downtown Orlando
26:31Nightclubs
26:32Notably
26:33His search
26:34Did not include
26:35The words
26:36Gay
26:36Or LGBT
26:37The evidence
26:39Suggested it was
26:40A crime of opportunity
26:42The location
26:43Chosen at random
26:44If Martine
26:46Didn't know
26:47Where he was going
26:48That night
26:48How could his wife
26:50Have known
26:50How could she
26:52In the words
26:52Of the June 15th
26:542016
26:54New York Post
26:56Cover
26:56Have saved
26:57Them all
26:58Obama's
27:00Disgraceful
27:01Terror
27:01Tantrum
27:02For a while now
27:03The main contribution
27:05Of some of my friends
27:06On the other side
27:07Of the aisle
27:07Have made
27:08In the fight
27:09Against ISIL
27:10Is to
27:11Criticize
27:12This administration
27:13And me
27:14For not using
27:15The phrase
27:16Radical Islam
27:17They know
27:18Who the nature
27:19Of the enemy is
27:20So there's no magic
27:24To the phrase
27:25Radical Islam
27:26It's a political
27:29Talking point
27:30It's not a strategy
27:31And if we fall
27:34Into the trap
27:34Of painting all Muslims
27:35With a broad brush
27:36And imply that we are
27:40At war with
27:41An entire religion
27:42Then we are doing
27:44The terrorist work
27:45For them
27:46Nobody reports
27:48To the FBI
27:48Or the police
27:49And they just
27:50Don't do it
27:50For whatever reason
27:51And we have
27:53To get that
27:53And we have
27:53To have
27:54We have to have
27:55A ban on people
27:55Coming in from Syria
27:56Coming in from
27:57Different parts
27:58Of the world
27:59With this philosophy
28:00That is so hateful
28:02And so horrible
28:03But sir
28:05Let me interrupt you
28:06On that one
28:06Right there
28:07How would the ban
28:07Have made a difference
28:08Here
28:08This man was
28:09A United States
28:10Citizen
28:10He was born
28:10In New York
28:11He lived in Florida
28:12No that's right
28:13But we have
28:14Many people
28:14Coming in
28:15Whose hate
28:15Is equal to his
28:16And just as bad
28:18And even worse
28:19Frankly
28:20And we have
28:21To stop people
28:22From coming in
28:22We have no documentation
28:24Prosecutors
28:26Decided to pursue
28:27Charges against
28:28Salman anyway
28:29Knowing full well
28:30That the statements
28:31She gave the FBI
28:32Could not be corroborated
28:34It was as if
28:35Authorities
28:35Were drawing up
28:36An indictment
28:37To fit the public's
28:39Perception of the crime
28:40Even if their
28:41Strongest proof
28:42Was at odds
28:43With other evidence
28:44They'd collected
28:45The agents
28:46Had coerced
28:47Noor
28:47Into agreeing
28:48That Omar Mateen
28:49Had cased the pulse
28:51And selected the nightclub
28:52As his target
28:53Said Swift
28:54In an email
28:55And it was not
28:57In the government's interest
28:58To contradict
28:58That narrative
28:59Beyond the courtroom
29:01The narrative
29:02Had taken on
29:03A powerful dimension
29:04In Orlando
29:05All over town
29:07In bars
29:07And restaurants
29:08You could see signs
29:10Reading
29:10We will not let
29:11Hate win
29:12Despite the thinness
29:14Of the case
29:14Against her
29:15There was no public
29:16Reckoning over
29:17Whether the aggressive
29:18Prosecution was
29:19Warranted
29:20Or just
29:21Now
29:22One of Salman's
29:23Former teachers
29:24Telling ABC News
29:25Salman had
29:25Learning difficulties
29:26In an exclusive
29:28Interview
29:28Susan
29:29Who asked us
29:30Not to use
29:30Her last name
29:31Or show her face
29:32Saying she was
29:33In all special
29:34Education classes
29:35Noor had difficulty
29:36With retention
29:37She had difficulty
29:38With conceptualizing
29:40Understanding
29:43I thought she is
29:45Incapable
29:45Of being an
29:46Accomplice
29:48Absolutely
29:48Incapable
29:49Salman's family
29:50Confirming
29:51Susan was
29:52Noor's teacher
29:52And that Noor
29:53Was a special
29:54Education student
29:55And does not
29:56Have the ability
29:56To understand
29:57Cause and effect
29:58The family
29:59Telling ABC News
30:00Noor is
30:00Completely innocent
30:01And was unaware
30:02Of the attack
30:03In May of 2017
30:06Jacqueline Campbell
30:07A leading expert
30:09On domestic violence
30:11Who evaluated
30:12Salman
30:12At the request
30:13Of her attorneys
30:14Confided that
30:15She was extremely
30:16Coerced
30:17About the case
30:18There was an
30:20Undeniable sadism
30:21In how the
30:22Government
30:22Went about
30:23Its case
30:23Salman
30:24Had originally
30:25Been granted
30:26Bail
30:26By a magistrate
30:28Judge
30:28In California
30:29But prosecutors
30:31Appealed
30:31Asking a federal
30:33Judge to keep
30:33Her behind bars
30:34They pointed
30:35To her confession
30:36That she had
30:38Scouted pulse
30:38With her husband
30:39Even though
30:40By this point
30:40They had strong
30:41Evidence
30:41To the contrary
30:42As a sign
30:44She was a danger
30:45To society
30:45At the time
30:47Judge Paul Bryan
30:48Sided with the
30:49Government
30:50And kept Salman
30:51Imprisoned
30:52Before her trial
30:53During the trial
30:54When an FBI agent
30:56Testified
30:57That he had
30:58Determined
30:58Quote
30:59Within days
31:00Of the massacre
31:01That Salman
31:02Had never been
31:03In the vicinity
31:04Of pulse
31:04Based on her
31:05Cell phone data
31:06Byron stopped him
31:07You knew
31:08Within days
31:09He asked
31:10Yes
31:11The agent
31:12Responded
31:12Did you tell
31:14Anyone
31:14Yes
31:15The agent
31:16Said
31:16Whom did you
31:17Tell
31:17My superiors
31:19The agent
31:19Replied
31:20Byron
31:20Asked for
31:21Their first
31:22And last
31:22Names
31:23Later
31:23After excusing
31:25The jury
31:25He asked
31:26Prosecutors
31:27To explain
31:27Themselves
31:28Why had
31:29They misled
31:30Him
31:30When they
31:31Asked him
31:31To deny
31:32Salman
31:33Bail
31:33I'm very
31:34Concerned
31:35By that
31:35Byron
31:36Said
31:36It seemed
31:37He had
31:37Taken
31:37It personally
31:38His decision
31:39On Salman's
31:40Bail
31:41Based in part
31:42On faulty
31:42Information
31:43Was responsible
31:44For her long
31:45Separation
31:46From her
31:46Child
31:47By the time
31:48Of the verdict
31:49Salman
31:49Had spent
31:5014 months
31:51In jail
31:51The judge's
31:53Scolding of the
31:53Prosecution
31:54Was perhaps
31:55The most dramatic
31:56Moment in the
31:57Trial
31:58It suggested
31:59To those
31:59Listening
32:00That the
32:01Government's
32:01Tactics
32:02Were shady
32:02And not to be
32:03Trusted
32:03Between the
32:05Lines
32:06A different
32:06Story from
32:07The government
32:08Was being
32:08Told in the
32:09Courtroom
32:09About a
32:10Different sort
32:11Of quintessentially
32:12American crime
32:14She was not
32:15His partner
32:15She was not
32:16His peer
32:17And she was
32:17Certainly not
32:18His confidant
32:19One of Salman's
32:20Lawyers
32:20Linda Marino
32:21Said
32:22Mateen was
32:23A domestic
32:24Abuser
32:24Who treated
32:25Salman with
32:26Disrespect
32:27And violence
32:28Her only sin
32:29Was that
32:30She married
32:30A monster
32:31She said
32:32Salman told
32:33Her family
32:34That her husband
32:35Had beat her
32:36He raped her
32:37He controlled
32:38Her life
32:38Her story
32:42Was echoed
32:43By Mateen's
32:44First wife
32:45Who said
32:45He physically
32:46Assaulted
32:47And terrorized
32:47Her
32:48During their
32:49Short marriage
32:50Although Salman
32:52Is now free
32:53The human
32:54Toll of the
32:55Decision to
32:55Prosecute her
32:56Is very real
32:57The trial
32:58Itself
32:59Was a kind
32:59Of punishment
33:00For two weeks
33:02Salman
33:03Who did not
33:04Testify
33:04Sat in court
33:05With dark circles
33:06Under her eyes
33:07Shifting nervously
33:08In her seat
33:09And speaking
33:10Quietly to her
33:11Lawyers
33:11At least once
33:13She was heard
33:14Protesting that
33:15The FBI
33:15Was lying
33:16She listened
33:17As she was
33:18Described
33:18By prosecutors
33:20As a cunning
33:21Callous woman
33:22Who would go
33:23Along with
33:24The plan
33:24Of mass murder
33:25For a sparkly
33:26Diamond ring
33:27And by her
33:28Defense team
33:29As a simple
33:30Minded dupe
33:31Victimized by
33:33Her philandering
33:34Husband
33:34She missed
33:36Things
33:36Important things
33:37While she was
33:38Locked up
33:39Her grandmother
33:40Died
33:41During her jury
33:42Selection for the
33:43Trial
33:43Salman did not
33:45Get to say
33:45Her goodbyes
33:46Or attend
33:46The funeral
33:47Most painfully
33:48She was separated
33:50From her son
33:51For over a year
33:52Unable to hug
33:53Or kiss him
33:54Salman's acquittal
33:56Was historic
33:57The government
33:58Rarely loses
33:59Terrorism cases
34:01But her victory
34:02Hardly felt
34:03Like one
34:04Right away
34:05It was circumscribed
34:06By the very jury
34:08That had set her
34:08Free
34:09In a statement
34:10Sent to the
34:11Orlando Sentinel
34:12After the trial
34:13The four men
34:14Of the jury
34:15Said jurors
34:15Suspected Salman
34:17Knew her husband
34:17Was planning
34:18Something
34:19Even if she
34:20Didn't know
34:20The date
34:21Or location
34:22After the verdict
34:23Came in
34:24Salman's lawyers
34:25Stood in front
34:26Of the federal
34:27Courthouse
34:28And berated
34:29The media
34:29The same media
34:31That had gotten
34:32The story
34:32So very wrong
34:34A year and a half
34:35Ago
34:35You believed
34:36She dropped him
34:37Off at Pulse
34:38Swift
34:40One of Salman's
34:40Attorneys
34:41Said to the
34:42Gaggle of reporters
34:43You believed
34:44They scouted
34:45Pulse
34:45On the same steps
34:47Salman's uncle
34:49Thanked the judge
34:50And jury
34:50And said the family
34:51Looked forward
34:52To getting Salman
34:53The best therapist
34:54Money could afford
34:55They just wanted
34:56To get her home
34:57To her son
34:58As soon as possible
34:59Too much damage
35:01Had already been done
35:03The casualties
35:12Inside the club
35:14Include
35:14Christopher Drew
35:16Linonen
35:16The family
35:19Of his partner
35:19Juan Guerrero
35:20Raced to the hospital
35:22Anxious for news
35:23I just wanted
35:24Everything to be okay
35:25And I was like
35:26Just praying
35:27For good news
35:28But I still
35:28Wanted it to be
35:29You know
35:29I didn't want
35:30It to be real
35:31So
35:31I take my parents
35:33Into the room
35:33Literally like
35:35Five seconds
35:37After they're
35:37In that room
35:38I just hear
35:39My mom
35:40And my dad
35:40Like
35:41Just the most
35:42Heartbreaking
35:43Cry
35:43I was just like
35:47It's not real
35:48It's not real
35:49It's not real
35:50It's not real
35:50That's all I could
35:51Keep saying
35:51For the longest time
35:52Like it's not real
35:53They were actually
35:54Like live-in boyfriends
35:56Just so happy
35:57For the both of them
35:57It's okay
36:00It's okay
36:01It's okay
36:02It hasn't fully hit yet
36:06And I know it will
36:07The day that
36:07You know
36:08I want to call him
36:09And I need him
36:09For something
36:10He was always there
36:11He was like
36:12This big
36:13Like light
36:14This big spirit
36:15He came into a room
36:16And you just knew
36:17He was there
36:18It sounds like
36:19Both of them
36:20Were excited
36:20To spend
36:21The rest of their lives
36:22With each other
36:22But instead
36:24You had to plan
36:25A funeral
36:26For both of them
36:27My brother
36:28Was cremated
36:29And Drew
36:30Is cremated as well
36:31So
36:31Whenever both moms
36:34Are ready to
36:34Put them
36:35In a cemetery
36:36Together
36:36So they'll spend
36:38Eternity together
36:39Yes
36:39For sure
36:40I was shaking
36:52Somebody I knew
36:53Did this
36:54Somebody I was
36:57With
36:58Did this
36:59That's the
37:00Traditional
37:01Afghan dress
37:01So it looks like
37:03You were both
37:03Very happy
37:04And in love
37:05And this marriage
37:06Looks like
37:07It was meant to be
37:07In the beginning
37:09It was pretty magical
37:10I would look in his eyes
37:18And I would not see
37:19The man that I
37:20Fell in love with
37:21I would see
37:22A monster
37:23That
37:23Was raging
37:25With hate
37:26And wanting to hurt
37:27Everything that is alive
37:29What was the worst
37:30Experience that you had
37:32With him in your house
37:33I was sleeping
37:35And he walked in
37:36And he woke me up
37:38By pulling
37:38The pillow
37:39From under my head
37:40And pulling my hair
37:41And getting me to the ground
37:42And started choking me
37:43Until I almost passed out
37:46And then when you
37:50Gained consciousness
37:51What did he say to you
37:52First he would start
37:54With the laundry
37:56Not being finished
37:57But then
37:57Eventually he would get
37:59To the fact that
38:00He had just gotten
38:01Into a fight
38:02With his father
38:02What was expected
38:06From Ammar
38:07From his dad
38:08And his culture
38:09To be a good
38:11Muslim man
38:14And have a family
38:16And kids
38:17He tried to
38:19Do everything to meet
38:20His father's expectations
38:22But I don't think
38:23That he did
38:24His happiest moments
38:27Were when he was
38:28Flamboyant
38:30When he was
38:31Singing
38:32And looking in front
38:33Of the mirror
38:34And dancing
38:34And taking pictures
38:35Of himself
38:36And his father
38:37Would really yell at him
38:39To be more manly
38:40Like he could never
38:41Be free
38:42To be who he is
38:43So Tori
39:09I know you're here
39:10Because he wanted
39:11To lend some insight
39:12Into what led Ammar
39:15To do what he did
39:16What are your thoughts
39:17About how he became
39:19This killer
39:20You know I really feel
39:22Like it was
39:23The pressure
39:24From his family
39:26Didn't allow him
39:28To be who he truly is
39:29And instead
39:30He had to pretend
39:32So much
39:33By getting married
39:36And having a family
39:37He didn't do that
39:38Because he really wanted to
39:39He did that because
39:40He had to
39:41And
39:42It wasn't real
39:43The life he was living
39:44Right
39:44It wasn't
39:45Because even his
39:46Current wife
39:47He met her online
39:48You know he just did it
39:49Because he had to do it
39:51To you know
39:52Get the approval
39:53Of his father
39:53And his culture
39:54You know what's unique
39:56Is that
39:57Ammar's upbringing
39:59And the way he repressed
40:01His true
40:02His true being
40:03Is very different
40:05Than how your brother was
40:07We're just gonna love you
40:08And accept you
40:08For who you are
40:09With Omar you know
40:11He hated himself
40:12And Juan
40:15Was a reflection
40:16For him
40:17All the people
40:18Still teaching hate
40:19That's what scares me
40:21My family
40:23Is from the
40:23Dominican Republic
40:24The mentality out there
40:26Is different
40:27Gay
40:28Tattoos
40:29Those things
40:30Are still taboo
40:31That's why it took
40:32Juan so long
40:33To come out
40:33He didn't come out
40:34Till he was like
40:3519
40:37I really believe
40:39That Omar
40:39Wanted to explore
40:41Homosexuality
40:42And for his family
40:43Homosexuality is
40:45The worst thing
40:46The worst thing
40:47That you could be
40:48And his father
40:49Voiced his disagreement
40:50With homosexuality
40:52To Omar all the time
40:53And so
40:54He never felt comfortable
40:55No
40:56His father would disown him
40:57That's sad
40:58We are not born
41:00With hate in our heart
41:01Hate is something
41:02That is taught
41:03Meeting you
41:05And you being
41:05His ex-wife
41:08And having an insight
41:09On him
41:09And us sharing
41:10The same views
41:11About the world
41:11It definitely
41:12Brings some
41:13Some more light
41:15Into the situation
41:16And it says a lot
41:18About humanity
41:19And about the two
41:20Of you women
41:21That you can come together
41:22Under such adverse
41:24Circumstances
41:25You know
41:26It's a much stronger
41:27Message than the one
41:28Omar sent
41:28I really hope
41:33That
41:34This can be
41:37A shift
41:38In humanity
41:39To face
41:45The challenges
41:46That we're going through
41:47And deal with it
41:49In a mature
41:51Conscious
41:52Way
41:53You're my sister now
41:55You're mine
41:56I'm your sister now
41:57I'm your sister now
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42:23I love you
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