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FRANCESCA FARAGO OPENS UP ABOUT HARRY JOWSEY BREAK UP INTERVIEW / PODCAST
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00:17This is Pillow Talk. I'm your host, Ryan Pownall.
00:19Every week we'll be interviewing celebrities.
00:22It's Pillow Talk. I mean, who knows what they're going to say
00:24and how better to start the first episode ever of all time
00:27than with the hottest girl in the history of the fucking planet, Francesca Farrago.
00:32Frankie, how you doing, baby?
00:34That was the best introduction I've ever gotten in my whole life.
00:37Well, you're so fucking hot. I mean, the tech team here,
00:40like, we're trying to get the cameras going and they're just saying,
00:42she's so fucking hot. She's so hot.
00:45Does that happen every day? Is that what it is? Is that how it goes?
00:50To be honest, yeah.
00:51It's been like that. She was a rocket back in fucking,
00:58like, the grade sixes, we're looking at her in grade six, grade seven, eight, nine, ten,
01:01like, all the way, I think you're going to be a hot gilf,
01:04which is, like, a grandma I'd like to fuck.
01:05I think you're going to go all the way.
01:07Ryan, you're a babe, too, obviously.
01:10Yes!
01:11Fuck yeah. Thank you, Frankie.
01:13Okay, so, unfortunately, though, you say I'm a babe,
01:16but now you're into women.
01:17So, what's going on with that, Frankie?
01:20What do you mean, what's going on?
01:21Well, you were dating guys and guys and guys,
01:24so us guys all felt like we had a fair chance,
01:26and even though a hot you were,
01:28you would give chances sometimes to the little guy, you know?
01:31We all felt we had a fighting chance with Francesca,
01:33and now you just switch teams to girls.
01:35So, us as a breed of men,
01:37we're very, like, scared that you're not coming back.
01:40What's going on?
01:42Yeah, I mean, I feel like I've always been into girls,
01:45like, I've always known I've liked them,
01:48so now that I'm, like, fully invested in it,
01:52like, it just feels good, you know?
01:54Like, guys kind of just,
01:56they don't do it for me right now.
01:59No, I think I've just been through a lot, and...
02:02Fair. You have been through a lot.
02:03But when you say don't do it for me,
02:05do you mean sexually in the bedroom,
02:07or do you mean the vibe of, like,
02:09being with a guy or dating a girl?
02:11Like, all of the above, I think.
02:14What about a penis?
02:16You don't miss those things?
02:18A dick?
02:18No.
02:20Really?
02:21No.
02:22I mean, maybe I will, but not right now.
02:26She's taking care of business down there?
02:28She's taking care of business, yeah.
02:30And Vaisarta, of course.
02:32Yeah.
02:33For those that don't know,
02:34Francesca's dating a girl now, Demi, in the UK.
02:37They're living together.
02:38They're on a UK TV show now.
02:40And, like I said, we're all really jealous,
02:42but we're really happy,
02:43because nothing's hotter than lesbians.
02:45But I really want to know,
02:46are they better down there than guys?
02:49They know what they're doing,
02:49because they have their own tools?
02:51A hundred percent.
02:53Yeah.
02:53We know exactly where to go.
02:55We know what to do.
02:56We know what not to do.
02:58It's just, like,
02:59overall, the experience is just better.
03:03And women are so beautiful.
03:04Like, Demi is beautiful.
03:06She's a fucking rocket.
03:08She might be the second hottest girl in the world.
03:09Yeah, you're killing it.
03:10I feel blessed, yeah.
03:11She's lucky.
03:12You're lucky.
03:12We're all lucky to watch.
03:14But, look, I get that,
03:15because most girls tell me when I go down
03:17that I'm just looking for something
03:18that I'll never find.
03:20Like, where's Waldo?
03:20It's really not that hard to find.
03:23Where?
03:23Okay, well, where is it?
03:24I don't...
03:25I'm still looking.
03:26I mean, for every girl,
03:27I think it's a little bit different,
03:29so maybe that's why guys are kind of confused,
03:30because down there for girls,
03:32it's very different,
03:33but down there for guys,
03:33it's, like, the same.
03:35Right.
03:35So each girl is definitely...
03:36There's a different situation, so...
03:38But it's really not hard to find.
03:40It's, like,
03:41there's only a certain amount of things going on,
03:43and it's the one thing that's, like, easy.
03:46Like, just look around a bit,
03:47and you'll find it.
03:48It's not that hard.
03:49Okay, okay.
03:49Well, that's good notes.
03:51So, but now are the celebrity...
03:52Because I know your DMs are banana fucking sandwich.
03:55Every celebrity wants a taste of Francesca,
03:56since you did your hit Netflix show.
03:58You've been on Fuego.
03:59Everyone wants a piece of you.
04:01It's almost annoying how many people ask me,
04:03can you put me in touch?
04:04I want to talk to her.
04:04I want to flirt with her.
04:05I want to do everything.
04:06Are your DMs slowing down from celebrity guys,
04:08or are they still going?
04:10No, they're still going.
04:11I stopped checking when I got into my relationship, though.
04:16I don't even look anymore.
04:17Well, that's true love.
04:19That's true love.
04:20Good for you.
04:21Yeah.
04:21And Frankie, you know how to piss off a jealous...
04:24I don't do it on purpose.
04:27Oh, Francesca, you know what you're doing.
04:29We all watch the TV show you're on.
04:30You know how to play the game.
04:32You're probably a flirting genius.
04:33You should be a flirting life coach, basically.
04:36I mean, anyone you want.
04:37I need to tone down my flirtiness.
04:40Like, I can't even control it.
04:42It just happens, and I'm like, oops.
04:44Yeah, I bet.
04:45It's just part of who you are.
04:46Like, we really haven't been in a scenario where we've made each other upset, like, yet.
04:53I don't know how, but we've lived together for, like, three months now,
04:56and I think we've argued once, which is, like, rare.
05:00It's, like, the healthiest relationship I've ever been in my entire life.
05:03It's very odd, but great.
05:05That's amazing.
05:06Like, usually I can't make it through lunch without, like, a big fist fight with...
05:09Right?
05:09You know what I mean?
05:11A fight with...
05:11Yeah.
05:12Couples fight more than they don't at this point.
05:14So when you find that, I respect that shit.
05:17But what about when you post, like, a really hot bikini pic?
05:19Does she get mad then, or what's the vibe with that?
05:21No, like, she's down.
05:23She's supportive.
05:24She knows I'm an OnlyFans.
05:25So she's...
05:27She gets the hustle, you know?
05:29I'm a subscriber to your OnlyFans, Frankie.
05:31100%.
05:31You are?
05:32Absolutely.
05:33You're on Fuego out there.
05:34You and Hayani?
05:35I mean, it's gorgeous.
05:36I'm subbed to Hayani's as well.
05:39Hayani's out here doing some shit.
05:40I don't know if she'll be mad or not, but Hayani, way to go, baby girl.
05:43Is she?
05:44Oh, my God.
05:46I was with her in Vancouver.
05:47She's doing great.
05:48Oh, yeah.
05:49She's...
05:49Yeah.
05:50So are we going to see some Francesca Demme content on the OnlyFans, or what's going on?
05:56She's on there a bit with me, yeah.
05:58Okay.
05:58Like, very minimal.
05:59Just some kissing and stuff.
06:01You know, bikini pics, stuff like that.
06:03We love it.
06:03We love it.
06:04And now you're on a TV show with her.
06:06Can you tell us about the show?
06:08Yeah, it's called TOWIE.
06:10She's been on it for a few years, and her sister has been on it for, like, 10 years.
06:15So it's just, like, a UK...
06:18It would be, like, to explain, like, Toronto having a reality show based on people that
06:23live in Toronto.
06:24Okay.
06:24It's like that, but for the area that she lives in that's called Essex.
06:28That would be...
06:29That would actually be a great TV show.
06:30Let's get that show going.
06:32A Toronto one?
06:33Yeah.
06:33Because Toronto's the most fun.
06:34And Essex is, like, a small town, too.
06:36It would be, like, Manatek.
06:38Oh, wow.
06:38Having a reality show.
06:40Yeah.
06:40Like, downtown Ottawa, almost?
06:42Yeah.
06:42It's a small town.
06:43There's, like, no huge buildings.
06:45Everything looks like you're in Harry Potter.
06:47Like, it's very...
06:48But there's a lot of drama, and everyone here is, like, all done up.
06:51Hair, makeup, lips, outfit.
06:53So you're, like, a rock star.
06:55Are you, like, a legend there right now?
06:59Um...
06:59I don't know.
07:02I'm not sure.
07:04Like, any DMs from Harry Styles, Paul McCartney, Adele?
07:07Now that you're smashing girls, is Adele reaching out?
07:09What's your...
07:10Is Adele gay?
07:12No.
07:13I don't think so.
07:14Oh.
07:15Why would you be DMing me that?
07:16Well, I don't know.
07:17She lives in the UK.
07:18Everyone wants a piece of Frankie.
07:19Oh, I didn't know that.
07:21Yeah.
07:22Oh.
07:23Maybe I should check my DMs.
07:24You should, actually.
07:25You should check your DMs every now and then.
07:27Because I know there's a lot of crazy shit going on in there, Francesca.
07:30And I hate that you haven't.
07:31And I hate how loyal and in love you've been.
07:34Because you're such...
07:34You're so fun to watch when you're playing the game.
07:36I remember you were dating Vinny.
07:38Am I right?
07:39Vinny from Jersey Shore?
07:40Yeah.
07:41You had that YouTube girl.
07:42What was her name?
07:44Tana.
07:45And then you had the Bachelor boy?
07:48Jeff.
07:49Am I up to date?
07:50Am I missing anyone?
07:51Oh, my God.
07:52I sound like a ho.
07:54No.
07:54No.
07:54No.
07:55It was only dating.
07:56No sexual pleasure.
07:57We know that.
07:57I think it wasn't...
07:58Yeah.
07:58Like, the life that I was living, like, I would go on one date with someone or a few dates
08:02and it would get, like, blown up.
08:05So.
08:05Yeah.
08:06Yeah.
08:06Yeah.
08:07Exactly.
08:07So.
08:08Well, that's pretty cool.
08:09Hey, Francesca, how do you feel about talking about He Who Remains Unnamed?
08:15Voldemort.
08:16Voldemort.
08:16Yes.
08:16How do you feel talking about him?
08:18That's what I'm calling.
08:18Yeah.
08:19We can chat for a bit.
08:20Okay.
08:20I mean, we need to have some wine for this one.
08:22Cheers to that.
08:23Let's have some wine.
08:24Let's talk a little bit about it.
08:25Yeah.
08:26Cheers to you, babe.
08:27Are you drinking red as well?
08:28Yes.
08:29I got the new 19 Primes Snoop Dogg one.
08:31Very good wine.
08:33Snoop Dogg has wine?
08:34Yeah.
08:34It's fucking...
08:35It's really nice.
08:36It's really nice.
08:36I need to look into that.
08:37Is that his face on the bottle?
08:39Yeah.
08:39And in the cork.
08:40It's really nice.
08:42We love it.
08:43We absolutely love it.
08:44What were we saying?
08:45We were saying something really fun.
08:48Oh, Harry.
08:49Of course.
08:51Harry.
08:51Heard of him.
08:52Okay.
08:53He's really forgettable.
08:54So, people ask me all the time.
08:56And they gossip.
08:57And they want to know.
08:58And it's the biggest thing ever.
08:59Did she actually love him?
09:01Does she actually care?
09:02Was she really sad?
09:03Was it just for TV?
09:04They want to know all the ins and outs.
09:06The gossip.
09:06What happened?
09:08Yeah.
09:09I mean, I don't like talking about this.
09:11Because it's definitely over and done with.
09:13And I'm, like, really happy with my situation now.
09:16But...
09:16Yes.
09:16I was in love.
09:18100%.
09:18Head over heels.
09:19Like, I still have the pictures on my phone.
09:22I was looking at engagement rings.
09:24Like, I was looking at...
09:25Oh, my God.
09:25Like, I know.
09:26It's, like, really sad to think about.
09:28Because, like, I was just played so hard.
09:31So...
09:31Oh, my God.
09:32It sucks.
09:33Engagement rings.
09:34Like, you guys were really going to do that?
09:36So, I was in it for real.
09:38And he was stringing me along for clout.
09:42Because he knew that if we were still together when the show came out, that it would be better
09:46for his career or whatever brand.
09:49100%.
09:49Yeah.
09:50Which it did benefit both of us at the end of the day.
09:53Right.
09:53So, whatever.
09:55Hurrah.
09:55But, yeah.
09:57Like, he could have at least kept...
09:58Like, I could have been at least in on it.
10:00Instead of me being blinded and thinking that we were going to get married.
10:03And him just, like, knowing he was going to break up with me, like, a month after the
10:06show came out.
10:07Oh.
10:07Because, you know what?
10:08Who would have been better at agreeing to that and playing that game of saying,
10:11okay, let's fucking fake it just for the camera?
10:13Yeah.
10:14I would have said yes.
10:15Yeah.
10:16You would have killed that shit.
10:17But then, here you are getting strung along and now Harry's just out here making...
10:21And he's acting like it wasn't that serious.
10:23Like, he didn't handle that situation well.
10:25Harry, I'm mad at you.
10:27I'm very mad at you, Harry.
10:29Yeah.
10:30He fucked up.
10:31Well, I'm sorry to hear that, babe.
10:32And, you know what?
10:33For everyone watching at home, they finally got the answers because you didn't really
10:36speak about it.
10:37So, I'm happy that you came on here and talked about it.
10:39Yeah.
10:39I avoided speaking about it for a really long time and it's gotten to the point where I just
10:45don't feel fuck anymore.
10:47Good.
10:47Like, I'll just...
10:48I'll say whatever I feel because he's done everything to, like, drag me down and make
10:53me look bad for no reason.
10:54So, fuck him.
10:55Fuck him.
10:56Hundo P.
10:57Fuck him.
10:58Yes.
10:59Fuck him.
11:00So, okay.
11:00So, you see him in LA.
11:02Let's say when you go back to LA and you bump into him at a bar.
11:04What's the vibe?
11:05So, oddly enough, like, I haven't ran into him once and I've...
11:10Tana, a little fucking psychopath, would invite me to parties as her date.
11:16And then I would find out, like, an hour before that someone that I knew that was
11:20there was like, oh, Harry's here, by the way.
11:21And I would message her and be like, is Harry going to be there?
11:23She's like, yeah, like, just come with me.
11:25And I'm like, why would I put myself in a situation where I'm going to see him?
11:28Right.
11:29So, I've avoided every single possible situation.
11:31I've avoided every single event that I knew he was going to be at.
11:34And I don't think that I'm in his friend group.
11:37He's friends with, like, a lot of, like, age range, 16 to 21.
11:42That's his friend group.
11:43Like, they're really young, like, TikTokers.
11:44And that's not really my vibe.
11:46So, I don't think I'm going to run into him.
11:48But, say, example, I did.
11:50I might puke out of anxiety and, like, just stress.
11:57And then, I don't know.
11:59Like, I don't...
12:00I have a feeling he's going to try and talk to me when I move back or, like...
12:03Oh, 100%.
12:04I don't know.
12:04I don't know what's going on.
12:05But I just...
12:06It's not even something I would even dabble into.
12:09Like, I was going to do X on the Beach.
12:11And I knew he was going to be on it.
12:12And the thought of it, I was like, I can't do this.
12:15Like, I can't put myself in a situation where I just have to see him and be around him.
12:19Like, it's just...
12:20It's not even, like, a healed wound yet, you know?
12:23Like, it's still, like...
12:24Really?
12:25Wow.
12:26Like, people really thought it was just for TV.
12:28And now you're just...
12:29You want to puke?
12:29It was for him.
12:31It was for him.
12:32It was for him.
12:33But it wasn't for me.
12:35Wow.
12:35It was real for me.
12:36Yeah.
12:36That's good to know.
12:38Well, I'm so sorry, babe.
12:39Now I...
12:39How did you not know?
12:41You're my friend.
12:41You should have known.
12:42I know.
12:43I know.
12:43But still, you're so good and smart, Francesca.
12:46You know that we know you're a genius, right?
12:47No, I'm stupid.
12:48I get played all the time.
12:49No, you don't get played.
12:51You do all the playing.
12:52You're like a blackjack.
12:53No, that's what people think.
12:54But that's not...
12:55That's what people think.
12:56Yeah, I played the game of the show a little bit with my situations that I did, like going
13:00on a date with Corey and wherever the situation goes.
13:02That was strategic.
13:04But I had to do that because everyone else on my show was fucking boring and they were
13:07just sitting around doing nothing.
13:08So I was like, no one's going to watch unless I do something.
13:11So I did things, but in real life, like, I feel like I love people a lot and I just
13:16like end up getting fucked over.
13:18You do.
13:18I mean, I have...
13:19I have been unfaithful in my past.
13:23Who hasn't?
13:24Sorry, Kat.
13:25Who hasn't?
13:25But...
13:26Oh, I love Kat so much.
13:30Love you, Kat.
13:31Love you, Kat.
13:32Cheers to Kat.
13:33Cheers to Kat.
13:35Love you, Kat.
13:36Well, that's good.
13:36But now, though, you and Demi, I guess in that world, it's especially since you're both
13:41celebrities, you get caught, right?
13:43You can't just fuck around.
13:45I mean, you get together, you're in a new city where everyone knows everyone.
13:48You can't just sneak back.
13:49But it's crazy because I know, like, high profile celebrities that, like, cheat on their
13:54wives and, like, people...
13:56It's like when someone's doing it in my realm, people know.
14:01And it's like the wife or girlfriend generally knows, but they don't believe it.
14:05But, like, there's high...
14:07Like, Chris's laptop's open.
14:09I'm looking at this famous YouTuber right here.
14:10He cheated on his wife with, like, a thousand people.
14:12And everyone knows about it.
14:13It's like a known thing in L.A.
14:15And they're just still together and they're still doing their YouTube...
14:18And they're on YouTube every day and everyone loves them and...
14:20I don't know.
14:21People get away with it.
14:22I guess the girls can, like, be happy in their relationship that they just, like,
14:25sacrifice the side of the loyalty that...
14:28Because in my world, like, realistically, no one's loyal.
14:31No, I know.
14:32It's like athletes is, you know, no discredit.
14:35I love them all, but...
14:36No athlete's loyal.
14:38Like, when they go on those little trips or whatever, games, games, trips.
14:42When they go to play a game somewhere in a different city, like...
14:46But I think...
14:46Different area codes, whatever.
14:48Yeah.
14:48For those girls, it's like they know what they're saying.
14:50A lot of good things come with it.
14:52A lot of bad things come with it.
14:53That's the same with my realm as well.
14:54Like, usually you know what you're getting into.
14:56Yeah.
14:57So, so, so is Demi...
14:59That is what makes Demi a little insecure.
15:03Yeah.
15:03Yeah.
15:04Understood.
15:05That makes sense.
15:05Hey, I wouldn't be able to date you.
15:06I'd be fucking losing my shit.
15:08I remember you're dating one guy from Ottawa.
15:10And, you know, I don't want to name any names, but you were a little bit out of this league,
15:15if I will.
15:16What was this?
15:17I mean, everyone I've dated, I'm out of their league.
15:19Facts.
15:22Facts.
15:23Demi's hot, though.
15:24Demi's a fucking smoke show.
15:25We love her.
15:26Yeah, she's a babe.
15:27No, not including her.
15:28I mean, in my past.
15:29In your past.
15:30Yes, I totally agree with that.
15:31But, yeah, and you were loyal to him.
15:34And then, I don't know.
15:35What did his name start with?
15:37Seth.
15:40An S?
15:41An S, yes.
15:42I wasn't loyal.
15:46But he, I ended up telling him.
15:49Everything.
15:50Well, that's nice.
15:51At least you did him the courtesy of saying, hey, I fucked.
15:55How many?
15:57I don't know.
16:00Well, that's it.
16:01You know what?
16:01First relationships, I don't really know too many people.
16:04We were long distance for like a year.
16:07Yeah, that's tricky, Dickie.
16:08In my defense.
16:09Yeah.
16:10Like, when's the last time you and Demi did it?
16:12I bet you did it right before the show.
16:14Exactly.
16:15You did, right?
16:17No, because we were filming all day.
16:19But yesterday.
16:20Yesterday.
16:21Are you guys very sexually active?
16:23Yeah.
16:25Daily?
16:27Yeah.
16:28Because, you know, when you get in those relationships, it starts to become slower and slower.
16:33You know.
16:33Do you see that happening with Demi?
16:35Not yet.
16:38I mean, maybe, but not yet.
16:41I think when we first met too, we were like very like all over each other.
16:45It is less now because we've been living together for three months and we're really busy.
16:48But I don't think we're still in the honeymoon phase.
16:52Yeah.
16:52And that's the best phase in the world.
16:54I try to live in that area all the time.
16:56You know, that's why I'm so scared of girlfriends because then it just gets freaky deaky and everyone starts to hate each other.
17:01From my experience, at least.
17:03They have to turn into your best friend.
17:05I've learned this with age that the person needs to turn into your best friend.
17:11Best friend.
17:11As well as someone that you want to fuck.
17:13Best friend and fuck buddy combined.
17:16Exactly.
17:18Best friend and fuck buddy combined is happiness.
17:21Well, fucking.
17:22See, I told you you're a genius, Frankie.
17:25Don't play her.
17:27Don't play me?
17:28No, yeah.
17:29No one in the future, whoever dates you should, you know, if you get the chance in hell to go on a fucking date to get a text back from the hottest girl in the world, don't fuck it up.
17:40Just telling people from the future.
17:42And we just want you so bad, Francesca, to come back to our team.
17:45Is there anything we can do?
17:46Demi, no offense, babe, but fuck, you know?
17:49You're hogging.
17:50You're hogging the ball.
17:50You're like Kobe, you know?
17:52You gotta pass it a little bit.
17:55Is there anything we can do, Francesca?
17:56Is there one guy that can turn you?
17:58What's going on?
18:00Nah.
18:02No, because even the ones that I've thought like, oh my God, like if there's one person.
18:07Right.
18:08That I could, I've accomplished it already and it's just been like a letdown.
18:15Is there any names you feel like dropping right now?
18:18Maybe something?
18:19No, no, no, no.
18:20I can't.
18:21I'm sorry.
18:22Okay, but now here's my question, okay?
18:24Now that you're famous, Francesca, are you only going to stay dating in that realm because
18:29you kind of get each other's lives?
18:30Well, same, I'm not, I'm like a D-list, D-lister.
18:34Babe, you're an A-lister with double Ds.
18:36Or now.
18:37That's actually what it is.
18:37But okay, are you ever going to give a busboy a fighting chance or is that, that's over?
18:46I mean, yeah.
18:47If you look at my past, like I don't really care about someone who's in my realm.
18:51Like, it's more about connection and vibe than it is about anything else.
18:56I would, I, yeah, I would prefer someone not in my realm because it's just like, like
19:04the, there was this, my friend, a friend of mine that was trying to date me and he would,
19:07every time he called me, he would record it and then like put it into his vlog.
19:12And I was like, do you even want to, like, cause then it's like, are they using you?
19:15Do they even like you?
19:16Like, it's really hard to tell, especially with friendships as well.
19:19So, preferably someone who like doesn't care about it.
19:22Like someone with like a thousand followers, like.
19:25Oh, so that's what you want.
19:26You want regular Joe, Joe Schmo, just like low key.
19:29Well, no, I don't want anyone.
19:30I don't want anyone.
19:31Just clarify.
19:31She doesn't want anyone.
19:32Yeah.
19:32Cause I have, I have my beautiful girlfriend, but.
19:35Is she there?
19:36Can she pop in and just give us a wave?
19:37Cause she's such a smoke show too.
19:38Maybe a kiss.
19:39Demi!
19:40Demi?
19:40Demi!
19:42We would love to see her.
19:43Cause you guys almost look like sisters.
19:45What are you guys doing?
19:47I say we look like.
19:48Oh, nice, Monica.
19:49What is she doing?
19:49Get her over here.
19:50Demi, get over here, babe.
19:52Did she wash off her makeup?
19:54She did wash it off?
19:55We need some Demi in here.
19:56She washed off her makeup.
19:58Oh, that's fair.
19:59Well, Francesca, I want to say thank you so much for coming on and doing this.
20:03I learned a lot.
20:04I love you.
20:05You're a rocket.
20:06We miss you.
20:07Come back to North America.
20:09Thank you so much.
20:10Thanks, Ryan.
20:12Love you.
20:12And everyone, thank you for tuning in to Pillow Talk.
20:14Baby girl, see you next week.
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