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Breaking Dolphins news: Jason Sanders will be out 4-5 weeks with a hip injury. While Hoch and Crowder are bummed about the news, Solana argues it’s no big deal and the Fins will be fine with a backup kicker for a month. A forty-minute debate ensues.
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00:00Dolphins kicker Jason Sanders is expected to be sidelined
00:03four to five weeks with a hip injury.
00:07Per source, Miami will need a new kicker for the start of the season.
00:13That's bad news, man, because I feel he had one shaky season
00:19where everyone was ready to dump him.
00:21I think he's been pretty damn reliable.
00:23I like him.
00:25And every NFL game is one score game.
00:29That's bigger news.
00:30It's just not – I know it's not sexy, but that's not good.
00:34That's rough.
00:36The kicker, bro.
00:37Pick up any kicker.
00:38You're fine.
00:39Pick up any kicker.
00:40Yeah, okay.
00:41Mark that sound.
00:42Mark that sound.
00:43So losing Jason Sanders doesn't matter.
00:47I'm not saying it doesn't matter, but the way you get talking about it.
00:49You just have to pick up any kicker.
00:50Yeah.
00:51So it doesn't matter.
00:52That's what I'm saying.
00:53So it doesn't matter.
00:54Dime a dozen.
00:54Like the way you guys are talking about it.
00:56So it doesn't matter.
00:57Dime a dozen.
00:58Oh, my God.
00:58You guys are like crying.
00:59A dime a dozen.
01:00Come on.
01:00Yeah.
01:02Jason Sanders.
01:03Come on.
01:03Okay.
01:04When they're down by two against the Colts with four seconds left and Willie Lump Lump walks
01:09out there.
01:11That's a bigger issue.
01:13What do you mean it's a bigger – oh, so now they have to beat Indianapolis by 12?
01:16Not by 12, but you shouldn't be down two.
01:19Why?
01:19At the end of the game against Indianapolis.
01:21Why?
01:21You shouldn't be in a position to win the game on the road?
01:24Because they should be a much better team than Indianapolis.
01:28They should be.
01:29And I'm not concerned that Jason Sanders can or can't hit a game-winning field goal against
01:35Indianapolis going into week one.
01:36I'm not concerned about it.
01:38That's literally the worst take that I have ever heard in the history of sports radio.
01:41That's the worst take you've ever heard.
01:43That's the worst take.
01:44Yes, that is the worst take.
01:45We have seen so many games decided by field goals, and you're saying it doesn't matter.
01:52Anyone who's a field goal kicker can be replaced with anyone else who's a field goal kicker.
01:57I'm telling you that I don't think Jason Sanders is not replaceable.
02:03That's what I'm telling you right now.
02:04I think Jason Sanders is replaceable with a kicker who perhaps right now is not on a team.
02:09So you're saying one of the 33 or worse best kickers in the country is just as good as Jason Sanders,
02:21who was one of 32 of the best.
02:25What's Dan Carpenter doing?
02:27Solana, no, let me go the other way with this, Solana, because people think this.
02:33Minus the tugging rubs, would you really like Justin Tucker to be on this team?
02:39How about the guy from Jacksonville?
02:42That's his 60.
02:43This dude from Jacksonville who hit a 70-yarder and then a 59-yarder on Saturday night.
02:48Do it in the regular season.
02:52Let's get here.
02:53All right.
02:54Well, I want to hear Solana have that attitude all season long with a kicker other than Jason
03:01Sanders.
03:02We're talking about Jason Sanders here.
03:04We're not talking about Justin Tucker.
03:06We're not talking about Young-Ho Koo.
03:09We're talking about Jason Sanders here.
03:12Jason Sanders, Hawk, you downplayed it a little bit.
03:15And I'm not saying he's been terrible.
03:16I don't think that would be fair.
03:17But Jason Sanders has not been outstanding.
03:21Solana, you're not remembering.
03:23You're stuck on like three seasons ago when he had a down season.
03:27He has been money.
03:29Solana, last year, beat the Jags by three.
03:35Beat New England by five.
03:37Thanks to Javon Holland.
03:38Lost to the Cardinals by one.
03:41Lost to Buffalo by three.
03:44Yeah.
03:44What does that matter?
03:45Yeah.
03:45NFL games.
03:46There are going to be better.
03:47Those games that you have to hit a damn field goal in the fourth quarter.
03:51Agreed.
03:52A hundred percent.
03:53Go find another kicker.
03:54Go find another kicker.
03:55There's several kickers that right now we're in a kicking battle with another team.
04:00And you're going to be fine with another kicker.
04:02These are all NFL kickers.
04:03So go get the loser of the battle from other kickers kicking battles?
04:08I mean, think about it.
04:09Jake Bailey beat out Stonehenge.
04:11I think that's his name.
04:12I don't remember.
04:13You didn't even get Youngway Koo's name right, let alone Stonehenge.
04:17Stonehenge.
04:19Stonehenge.
04:20But Stonehenge was an adequate punter.
04:22Nobody would have been depressed going into the season had he been your punter.
04:28Jake Bailey was a little bit better.
04:30The punter doesn't make or break the game.
04:33Game of inches, Hawk.
04:35What does that mean?
04:36What about a game of points where you need to hit field goals?
04:40Field position is very important.
04:43Punters, very responsible for field positioning.
04:46So no big deal you're starting kickers out for a month.
04:50I'm not telling you that this isn't at all news.
04:54I'm just saying that the way you guys were like, oh, man, that's bad.
04:58Because it's really good to have a reliable field goal kicker.
05:02And you can go find somebody who's reliable for a month until your field goal kicker is healthy.
05:07The people who lost the field goal kicker battles on the other teams.
05:11That's who you're choosing from.
05:13I don't understand what you're – what do you mean you can just go find a reliable one?
05:17Hawk, guys get cut all the time who are reliable field goal kickers because they don't want to pay a specific field goal kicker money that they can pay a little bit less to a rookie or somebody who's been in the league a little bit less time.
05:32There's more field goal kickers available.
05:33Who's available?
05:34I haven't been on the field goal kicking beat.
05:36My apologies.
05:37But you just know that Jason Sanders is easily replaceable.
05:41For a month or two?
05:43Yeah, they'll be fine.
05:44This isn't that big deal.
05:44Well, if he's easily replaceable for a month or two, he's easily replaceable, period.
05:48Well, this could be the end of the Jason Sanders era, unfortunately.
05:54You like stats, right?
05:56Love them.
05:58Fourth in field goals made.
06:01Tenth in percentage.
06:06Ninth in longest.
06:08He is a great kicker.
06:09He's a top ten kicker in the league.
06:11He's a top ten kicker.
06:12He's got it figured out, though.
06:13Go get one of the guys who lost a field goal battle in camp and is now currently without a team because they're obviously equivalent to a top ten field goal kicker in the league.
06:25Let me rephrase.
06:27I like stats that help push my narrative.
06:32Liverpool up 2-0, by the way, right now.
06:3548th minute.
06:36Liverpool up 2-0 in the 48th minute.
06:39But no matter what, Solana says, that is a big loss for the Dolphins.
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07:16It's a very big loss for the Dolphins.
07:19I don't care what weird tangent Solana's on about.
07:23Oh, replace any top ten player with guys who just got cut from teams.
07:27Couldn't make the roster of other teams.
07:30Be very easy to replace someone.
07:32Regardless, I'm looking through Adam Schefter's other tweets here just to see what's going on.
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07:48It was Schefter who had the Jason Sanders news first.
07:55See what else he's got going here.
07:57A lot of cuts coming through.
08:00I'm just looking to see if we recognize any names.
08:04Any kickers?
08:06Yeah, that's going to be your department because you seem to have that on lock.
08:13You've got a take there that is uniquely yours.
08:20It doesn't matter.
08:21No sign of Micah Parsons during the open portion of practice open to the media in Dallas.
08:31Bears released Trey Flowers.
08:38I'm not recognizing many names here.
08:42Now the Saints released Moochie Dixon.
08:46Great name.
08:49Pick up Moochie.
08:50No opposition he plays.
08:53It doesn't matter.
08:54Throw him a kicker.
08:55Dime a dozen.
08:57Get him, Mooch.
09:00Yeah.
09:01I'm excited for you, Solana.
09:02This will be great.
09:03Dolphins down two.
09:04A couple seconds left at Indy.
09:06You can upset them on the road.
09:08Open the season.
09:09Here comes Moochie Dixon.
09:10Anyone can play.
09:11Nick Folk, available.
09:23Matt Prater, available.
09:25Those guys have been in the league forever.
09:28As reliable as they come.
09:29Nick Folk has to be 50 years old.
09:31How old is Nick Folk?
09:32I think I played with Matt Prater.
09:35I mean, where are you finding those names?
09:41Did you drive a DeLorean to get to this list?
09:44Sorry.
09:44That's a list from 2008.
09:48Sorry.
09:48No.
09:49Let me update this list.
09:50I knew it.
09:51Matt Prater's 41 years old.
09:54I played with Matt Prater.
09:56So what?
09:57He's 41 years old.
09:58So what?
09:59You need him to kick a 38-yard field goal.
10:01Like, what are we doing here?
10:04We're depressed over Jason Sanders missing a month?
10:07Yes.
10:08Because it's not the 38-yard field goal that decides a game.
10:14It's not the 38-yard field goal with two seconds left in the first half
10:18that gives you a little bit of cushion in the second half.
10:21I mean, you're a complete idiot.
10:28Nick Folk is 40, by the way.
10:30Thank you, Jimmy.
10:31I mean, that's the most idiotic take I've ever heard.
10:38Well, I can argue a lot.
10:41Kicker doesn't matter.
10:43Michael Badgley from the U.
10:45Sign him right now.
10:47That's the Aussie?
10:49No.
10:50Oh.
10:51I like the Aussie.
10:52Well, he was a punter.
10:54Punter.
10:54I don't know.
10:55He was big as hell and didn't wear no pads.
10:57Yeah.
10:58Yeah, I liked him.
10:59I mean, I got to throw it to him for headlines, but he's so damn stupid.
11:07I don't even know what to do.
11:09It's a lot of, we can't find a right tackle.
11:16Now we're just going to throw anybody at kicker.
11:18It's the same thing.
11:19Hey, that's what they're doing with the cornerback situation.
11:22They're just throwing anybody out there.
11:24Why can't Chris Greer do the same thing with the kicker?
11:26Well, I will tell you, the cornerback doesn't come out with three seconds to go in a game
11:31to launch your team to a victory.
11:33It's almost as if you've never watched football before.
11:37This is the one with the brown oval ball.
11:45Eddie Panera.
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12:00Here are your headlines for the four o'clock hour with El Stupido.
12:07The Miami Dolphins have cut several players.
12:11Reportedly.
12:11You could literally do that with any player, any position in any sport.
12:17Oh, just go get another one.
12:20That's fine, man.
12:21You guys want to cry over Jason Sanders?
12:23That's fine.
12:24That's a huge loss.
12:26I'll save my tears.
12:27I'll save my tears.
12:28That's not a huge loss.
12:29Losing to a tongue of Iloa, huge loss.
12:32Losing Patrick Paul this year, huge loss.
12:35Losing any of the Dolphins' very well-paid starters, huge loss.
12:40Losing Patrick Paul is a huge loss, but losing your reliable field goal kicker isn't?
12:47Are you insane?
12:49Are you having a stroke?
12:50Luke, you're going to compare.
12:52Hold on a second.
12:53You're going to compare losing your starting left tackle.
12:57My second-year left tackle who has yet to prove himself really good at the game of football?
13:03Who you've literally put all the stock into, saving your starting quarterback.
13:08Who literally has yet to prove he's very good at football, is a bigger loss than a field goal kicker who's a top ten kicker in the league.
13:18I feel like I'm arguing in a loony bin.
13:22You're saying losing Jason Sanders.
13:25Let me get this straight.
13:26You're saying losing Jason Sanders for a month, for a month, by the way, if he's fine, is a bigger loss than potential.
13:33Don't worry about him being fine.
13:34Everyone knows he's going to be fine.
13:36He has a little hip injury.
13:37Nobody's worried about Jason Sanders' life.
13:40Which is exactly why I'm not concerned about this.
13:43You signed somebody else.
13:44I just read you seven guys that they can sign who will be adequate enough to get you through the first month of the season.
13:50And then Jason Sanders can come back.
13:51I didn't know that there were adequate kickers available.
13:53As long as they're adequate.
13:54I didn't know.
13:55I thought we were looking for a very good kicker.
13:58If we're looking for adequate kickers, there's a million.
14:00So you're saying losing Jason Sanders is a bigger loss than losing Patrick Paul.
14:09You're starting left tackle.
14:11Exactly the same.
14:13Okay.
14:13I mean, I don't think you guys have ever watched football.
14:17It doesn't make any sense.
14:19You're saying one starter is not equivalent to losing another starter.
14:25You're picking out a random starter and just saying because he's a starter, he means more to the team than another starter.
14:33Anybody on the starting offensive line for this Miami Dolphins team, especially your two tackles, Patrick Paul, Austin Jackson,
14:42when you have no depth behind them and no ability to go acquire or sign people who are as good or better.
14:52That is a bigger deal than losing the starting kicker for a month.
14:56Yes.
14:57You can find other kickers.
14:59Colts.
14:59You are wrong.
15:00This happens all the time.
15:01Colts, Pats, Bill, and Jets.
15:03And there's a drop off in talent all the time.
15:06Colts, Pats, Bill, and Jets.
15:08The kicker, whoever you throw out there, let's just throw out the bagger from Walmart because that's what probably, you know, he can do it.
15:16He's going to kick a game-winning field goal in one of those four games where Jason Sanders is out.
15:20And it doesn't matter who it is.
15:22So you're saying there isn't a kicker available who is a free agent right now?
15:26Not as good as Jason Sanders.
15:27Not as good as Jason Sanders.
15:28Not as good as Jason Sanders.
15:30And you guys are overrating Jason.
15:31And I like Jason Sanders.
15:33You guys are overrating Jason Sanders.
15:35Look at the, he's top ten kicker in the world.
15:37We did, we did how many segments over the past 18, 19, 20 months where we were literally ripping Jason Sanders up and down nonstop.
15:47You are completely wrong.
15:49You are completely wrong.
15:50You're making this up.
15:51I had an unbelievable season last season.
15:54He had a good season last season.
15:55I had it with my gun.
15:56Unbelievable season last season.
15:58Unbelievable season?
15:59He had a good season.
16:00He had a good season.
16:01So you were ripping him during his good season?
16:03I wasn't very comfortable with Jason Sanders going up to kick big time fuel goals last year.
16:09Of course not.
16:10He was, of course not.
16:11What do you mean, of course not?
16:12He was money.
16:13Like, what do you mean, of course not?
16:15He's making this up.
16:16I don't think you watched the games last year.
16:19I'm not as confident in Jason Sanders as a kicker as you guys are, clearly.
16:24And to just totally say, oh, well, a couple of years ago he had a bad year.
16:28He had a really bad year two seasons ago.
16:30Two seasons ago.
16:31He had a good season last year.
16:33He's not this sure-fire lockdown kicker.
16:37And he's definitely not a top 10 kicker in the world.
16:40I don't know what we're doing here with Jason Sanders.
16:43Solana, kicking-wise, the stats are the stats.
16:46Okay.
16:47He's top 10 in every category.
16:49How can he not be a top 10 kicker?
16:50Because you don't like him?
16:51Did he steal your girlfriend in high school?
16:53What are you talking about?
16:54Because Gino Toretta just texted me.
16:56He goes, Solana needs to take the L on this one.
16:58And the face plant emoji.
17:00I honestly don't know what you're talking about.
17:02I'm not telling you that Jason Sanders is a bad kicker.
17:05I'm just saying I don't think losing Jason Sanders for a month is this big of a deal.
17:11The Dolphins will sign another kicker.
17:13That kicker will be fine.
17:15And Jason Sanders will be back in a month.
17:17This happens in the NFL all the time.
17:19That's not the argument.
17:20Of course, everyone gets hurt.
17:22It happens to the quarterback.
17:23There's injuries all the time in the NFL.
17:25What are you saying?
17:27That's your great point that this happens all the time?
17:29My great point is that the Dolphins will be able to find another kicker and he'll be good.
17:35Just listen to this, Solana.
17:36So then you don't need to bring Jason Sanders back.
17:38Whoever they sign is as good as Jason Sanders.
17:41Before they even sign him, we know this, right?
17:43Whoever they sign is going to be as good as him.
17:45Anything under 39 yards, he's 20 for 20.
17:49Last year.
17:49From 40 to 49, he's 5 of 7.
17:5350 plus.
17:5550 plus.
17:56He's 12 of 14.
17:58Last year, right?
18:00Yes, 90%.
18:01Okay, go look at two seasons ago.
18:03Go look at two seasons ago.
18:05This is the thing.
18:06I could do the same thing.
18:07You're nitpicking stats.
18:08You're just nitpicking one great season.
18:11I mean, stats are everything when it comes to a field goal kicker.
18:15But you're looking at one season.
18:17I could do the exact same thing two years ago and prove to you that he's not as reliable
18:22as a kicker as you're making him out to be.
18:24But in other words, I don't think he's a bad kicker.
18:27But let's take his stats and then let's look at the stats of kickers who are available,
18:33who were released.
18:35And what if they don't match up?
18:37Doesn't matter.
18:39But who says they won't match up?
18:41There's veterans who might be available.
18:42Because they got released by their teams.
18:44Why would you release a field goal kicker who is 12 of 14 from 50 plus yards?
18:50Do you think they're available?
18:512023 you're speaking of, right?
18:53Mm-hmm.
18:54Because you scream, look at the stats at me.
18:56Yeah.
18:56Okay.
18:5786%.
18:5813 of 13, under 39 yards.
19:026 of 8 from 40 to 49.
19:045 of 7.
19:05Long of 57.
19:07What are you talking about?
19:08You're insane if you think those kickers are everywhere.
19:13Especially available now before the season starts.
19:16A kicker's not hitting 5 of 7 from 50 plus.
19:19And oh, we'll just go grab somebody off the street.
19:22It's okay.
19:22Fine, man.
19:22I'm not worried about Jason Sanders missing a month.
19:25I'm genuinely not.
19:26Then you don't understand football.
19:28You literally don't understand football if you don't think the guy who kicks the field goals
19:32at the end of the game is important.
19:34Solana, last year he accounted for 137 points.
19:38That's not a big deal, losing 137 points in a football season.
19:43You think there's only 32 good kickers in the NFL?
19:47That's what you guys are saying?
19:48I think the 32 are the best.
19:5032 of the best.
19:52And guys don't get cut for reasons that don't have to do with the fact that there's a drop-off
19:56in play?
19:57They get cut because they're not as good as the other guy on the team.
20:02But they're still good kickers.
20:03They can still be good kickers in the NFL.
20:05I mean, honestly, I don't know what you're saying at this point.
20:08This is your crew of honorable mention all day.
20:10You want honorable mention all day, guys.
20:11I don't understand what you're saying.
20:14I don't understand how you get stats.
20:15Why would you keep stats on kickers if they're all the same?
20:19I don't understand why you guys are acting like losing Jason Sanders is this massive deal.
20:25It's not.
20:26He's a good kicker.
20:27There are other good kickers available.
20:29Jason Sanders, someone texted in, is perfect in the fourth quarter and overtime for game-winning
20:34and game-tying kicks in his career.
20:36He's like 13 of 13.
20:40We got to check that.
20:43Would that be important if it's true?
20:45I still think you can find another good kicker.
20:50Okay.
20:51Okay.
20:52So.
20:52And the idea that.
20:53Why would you ever pay a kicker more than minimum?
20:56Why would you.
20:56If you can find a kicker at any time, why would you ever pay a kicker more than minimum?
21:01Is Justin Tuck important?
21:02Is Justin Tuck important to the Ravens?
21:04And what happened last year?
21:05Anyone can kick.
21:06What happened last year?
21:07Justin Tucker's cut right now.
21:09He's not in the NFL.
21:10He's cut because he went to the, he did the, he did the Robert.
21:12But you're telling me.
21:14He's nothing about his performance.
21:14I agree.
21:15But you're telling me that the guys who aren't on rosters right now aren't good kickers.
21:19But that's one example.
21:20They're not Justin Tucker.
21:20They're not Jason Sanders.
21:22I mean, honestly.
21:23They're not.
21:24You're saying guys who didn't make a football team are as good as guys who did make a football team?
21:30When it comes to kickers, I'm saying the gap between the best kicker and maybe guys
21:35who were in a battle and didn't get signed and who are going to be available over the next couple of days.
21:39I'm talking about kickers specifically.
21:42Ones who made the team are just as good as ones who got cut from teams.
21:46I think we will be fine with a kicker.
21:49Whoever the Dolphins end up getting.
21:51You thinkers who got cut from teams are as good as the kickers who made NFL teams.
21:57I don't think the gap is as wide as you guys think it is.
22:00I don't.
22:01I don't.
22:01And I'm surprised Crowder of all people who has openly said he didn't respect kickers in
22:07the locker room and he didn't respect punters.
22:09I don't want to listen to them, but I know they're important.
22:12You're saying they're not important.
22:14Go out there.
22:15He sat through a hurricane season with a bad kicker one season.
22:20It was so painful.
22:22They lost so many games because they didn't have an adequate field goal kicker.
22:27And he's about to tell you, it doesn't matter who's out there.
22:31They're a dime a dozen.
22:32Solano, what did you put in your whey protein this morning?
22:35Don't use that anymore.
22:36Don't do that anymore.
22:37Whatever you ate today, you got to lay off whatever you ate today because you're making
22:41no sense.
22:42Can't believe you're you are making the argument and Crowder.
22:46This is your ally that losing your starting left tackle is the same as losing the kicker
22:52that it's the same that it's it's equally as bad.
22:55That is genuinely to accuse me of not watching football or not understanding.
22:59So you can't find it.
23:00You can't go out and find a decent left tackle.
23:04No.
23:04Oh, there are way less great left tackles available after teams get teams cut
23:11players.
23:12I got it.
23:12So the left tackles who are available right now are not as good as the ones on the team.
23:17They're not as good as the starters.
23:18You are comparing a starting left tackle being cut from a team to a kicker.
23:23That is insane to me.
23:25So the left.
23:26So it's easy.
23:27It's you can find the left.
23:28You can find a kicker.
23:30That's a backup.
23:30Easily.
23:31Easily.
23:31Yeah.
23:31The left tackle that left tackle so specialized that it's very almost impossible to find
23:37a backup.
23:38And we've had a and we've had a tackle that missed a bunch of games over the years.
23:41But we keep Jason Sanders around for seven years.
23:44Re-up his contract because he's one of the best kickers in the world.
23:48But you can replace him.
23:49Don't worry about it.
23:50Oh, oh, I'm sorry.
23:51What happened last year when you're starting left tackle wasn't in the game?
23:54What happened last year when you're starting right tackle wasn't in the game?
23:56What happened last year when you're starting right guard was the place by who?
23:59Right.
24:00You know why we didn't know what happened?
24:03You're figuring it out on your own.
24:05No, I think you think you're doing something.
24:08You're figuring it out.
24:09I don't think I am.
24:11When you lose your starters, you guys think you're doing something.
24:13It's hard to replace starters.
24:15And when you lose a starter, it's generally a fairly significant loss.
24:20I think you may have figured it out on your own.
24:22Except when it comes to kickers.
24:24I got you.
24:25Except when it comes to punters.
24:26Except when it comes to long snappers.
24:28Yes.
24:28Kickers.
24:30Field goal kickers.
24:31Special teams.
24:32Special teams players.
24:33The ones who line at the end of the game starts behind the kicker.
24:38Not the punter and the long snapper.
24:40No, no.
24:40Special teams.
24:41The field goal kicker.
24:42Special teams.
24:43Dime a dozen.
24:44The Dolphins went through nine.
24:45Special teams.
24:47The Dolphins went through nine long snappers last year.
24:49I'm not talking long snappers.
24:50No, no, no.
24:50I am.
24:51No, no, I'm not having a conversation about long snappers.
24:55I am.
24:55I am.
24:55I am.
24:562018.
24:57He's been here since 2018.
24:58Why are you having a conversation about long snappers?
25:00Who brought up long snappers?
25:01I am.
25:02Because to compare the special teams units.
25:05No, they're not units.
25:06We're talking about the guy that kicks the field goals.
25:08We're talking about the kicker.
25:08And what's he a part of?
25:10Special teams.
25:11Is he not?
25:11No, he is the kicker.
25:13Hold on.
25:13Kicking is not a part of special teams?
25:14What are you talking about?
25:16That's the dumbest thing.
25:16I could do that then with your offensive tackle.
25:18I could do that with your left tackle conversation then.
25:21So when you lose someone on the offense, it's impossible to replace someone on the offense.
25:26You can't compare the drop-off between Patrick Paul and Jackson Carman or Larry Borum to Jason Sanders and Matt Gay or Jason Sanders and whoever the Miami Dolphins are going to end up signing for a month.
25:40I bet I can.
25:41You can't compare it.
25:41I bet I can because numbers are clear.
25:43You absolutely can because the difference between having a good kicker and a bad kicker is oftentimes multiple wins or losses in a season.
25:52Multiple.
25:52Single-score games.
25:54Did I like the kickers?
25:55No, because they don't do nothing in practice while I'm busting my head into grown men.
25:59Do I know I need a good kicker?
26:01Yes, because when we had them, we won more games, Solana.
26:05They play golf all the time.
26:07I hate it.
26:07I said, this is the guy who comes on the radio before Dolphins games?
26:11I mean, this is bizarre.
26:13Hey, hit Tobin with this.
26:15Hit Tobin with this.
26:16Yeah, yeah, yeah.
26:16Save this.
26:17Definitely bring this up for the first game.
26:22Bring in Matt Prater.
26:24Yeah, bring in Nick Folk.
26:25When the Dolphins, field goal kicker, interim field goal kicker, makes a game-winning field goal in the first month of the season,
26:33I don't want to hear a single thing from you guys celebrating that victory, because you have no faith.
26:41Neither of you have any faith in anybody.
26:42How can I have faith in someone who I don't know who's going to be there?
26:45You have no faith in anybody.
26:47How can I have faith?
26:47Well, who is it?
26:48Who is it?
26:49Matt Prater.
26:50I mean, you want me to have faith in the kicker that they haven't signed yet?
26:56I mean, honestly, is that your argument?
26:59Your argument is that losing your kicker is as equally important as losing your left tackle,
27:04and genuinely, that is such a bad take.
27:08Such a bad take.
27:09I got you.
27:10Okay.
27:11I'm concerned about what you consider to be a bad take.
27:13Eddie Pinero.
27:17You think it's easy to kick a 48-yarder, 55-yarder?
27:21The whole thing is that the entire game changes when you can't kick a field goal because you don't trust who your kicker is,
27:28and so now you end up going for it in situations that you wouldn't be going for it.
27:32Like, the entire game changes when you don't have a reliable kicker who can boot 50-plus-yard field goals,
27:37but not for Solana because you can go get anyone.
27:40You can literally get Snoopy and Charlie Brown, and they'll go out there, and they'll kick the field goal.
27:48Maybe we should do that.
27:49Just pull the ball out from under him, let him do a backflip, and then, you know, run a fake.
27:54Greg Zerline.
27:57Jason Sanders is number five in total points for kickers.
28:01You don't think that's important?
28:04137 points divided by 17 is eight points a game.
28:08He accounts for eight points a game.
28:09Do you think that's important?
28:10That's just a reflection of the Dolphins' offense not being great enough.
28:16That's it.
28:17That's all that is.
28:18Dolphins should get in the end zone a little bit more.
28:20Dolphins should get in the end zone a little bit more.
28:22Using total points for the kicker doesn't reflect how important a kicker is.
28:27What?
28:28It's a percentage thing.
28:29What?
28:29It doesn't reflect how important the kicker is?
28:31Are you kidding?
28:33What kicker stat impresses you?
28:35Because he's topping all of them.
28:37Nick Fultz.
28:37What is it?
28:37Give me one.
28:38Nick Fultz.
28:39All right.
28:40Don't yell.
28:41Don't yell Nick Fultz.
28:41I got to get to Joe Zygacki.
28:43He's not making any sense.
28:44I'm going to bang my head against the wall here.
28:46Man, throw that whey protein away.
28:48Throw that bag away.
28:50Nick Fultz last year, by the way, and the season prior, made 96.7% and 95.5% of his
28:57field goals for the Tennessee Titans.
29:00Matt Prater, by the way, he missed the 2024 season.
29:04The season prior, 16 of 16 on field goals and extra points before he got injured.
29:09Guys are available.
29:11They're going to find somebody else who is good enough to be a starting kicker in the NFL.
29:15So you have all the faith in the world in Chris Greer.
29:18Signing a kicker?
29:22Come on.
29:23Okay.
29:24So you have all the faith in the world in Chris Greer that they'll be able to get a kicker
29:27as good or better than Jason Sanders.
29:28Yes.
29:33Okay.
29:33I'll give that to you.
29:34Fine.
29:35Good.
29:36Okay.
29:38Mark it down.
29:40Well, there's nothing to mark down.
29:41We're telling you the stats and you're, you're saying, well, the stats don't matter in this
29:45particular situation.
29:46I'm not telling you that the stats don't matter.
29:48I'm also not telling you.
29:49You literally just said the stats don't matter.
29:51I'm not telling you that Jason Sanders is a horrible kicker either.
29:54Like I'm not dismissing the stats and saying Jason Sanders is horrible.
29:57I'm telling you that I'm not necessarily super confident when Jason Sanders steps up
30:03to kick a big field goal, even though he's top five in points.
30:06I don't think that the drop off between Jason Sanders, the top five in points kicker, the
30:1133rd to 38th kicker in the NFL is zero on the list in points is equivalent to the guy
30:19who's top five in points.
30:21Joe Zagaki is calling me.
30:22He's very, very, he should.
30:24I, if I were him, I would quit.
30:26I would quit the show because I wouldn't be able to go on with it.
30:29He's going to cuss at you.
30:30Solana, get ready.
30:31He's about to start cussing.
30:32Ask, ask Joe Zagaki.
30:34What's a worse loss losing your starting kicker or losing your starting left tackle?
30:39No.
30:40Ask Joe Zagaki.
30:40What hurricane season was like a couple of seasons ago when they had a bad field goal
30:44kicker.
30:44Let's ask him.
30:45We'll ask him that.
30:46The first question.
30:50There's a lot to get to with that Notre Dame game.
30:52Oh, come on.
30:53Ryan out loud.
30:55I mean, if this was a game, we'd have to drug test them.
30:59Oh, yeah.
31:00Need a cup.
31:01Jimmy, get a cup.
31:02Go over to Solana's house.
31:08You're weathered?
31:10Solana, I love you to death, the texter says, but you're an idiot.
31:13This was a surprising one.
31:17This was wild, man.
31:19Somebody says, ask him about Scott Norwood.
31:21He's too young to know.
31:22But the Bills would have won four Super Bowls with a good kicker.
31:27Somebody says, RIP Porpoise Pod.
31:34You want to blame it on Scott Norwood?
31:36That's fine.
31:37Hey, maybe they should have moved those chains a little bit better.
31:42I don't know what you're talking about.
31:44I mean, by that argument, which is the dumbest argument, you should never kick a field goal.
31:49You should only score touchdowns.
31:51If your field goal has any points, you didn't do enough on offense.
31:54It's literally the dumbest argument in the history of sports radio.
31:58You can't say that's the dumbest argument when you're comparing losing your starting kicker to losing your starting left tackle.
32:05Genuinely cannot believe that that is the take you're going with here.
32:09Yep.
32:09I cannot believe it.
32:10You were comparing the Dolphins season.
32:13Because I know what Jason Sanders did for the Dolphins last season.
32:17I know what Patrick Paul did for the Dolphins last season.
32:19So you're saying Patrick Paul goes down for the Dolphins is the same impact as the Miami Dolphins losing Jason Sanders.
32:26Same impact.
32:26That's right.
32:27That's right.
32:28He's not an all-pro left tackle.
32:30Then you can't tell me that I have the dumbest take.
32:33Solana.
32:33You can't.
32:34You can't.
32:35I know.
32:35You got to get to Joe.
32:36Just ask me.
32:37It's almost impossible to verbalize.
32:40Who's better at that job?
32:44Jason Sanders or Patrick Paul?
32:46Yes.
32:47Jason Sanders.
32:50Bingo.
32:53He does his job better than Patrick Paul does.
32:57He's not proven.
32:58If this was Jonathan Ogden, I might slide you away a little bit.
33:02That's the difference.
33:02That's the part that's crazy.
33:04I get the importance of the left tackle.
33:06This is a second year guy who has yet to prove himself.
33:09That's the part that I'm hung up on.
33:11This isn't Joe Thomas.
33:14This isn't Larry Little.
33:19Patrick Paul.
33:21I know his name.
33:22Alana, you're going to make me.
33:28Yeah, can you sit out the Zigaki segment?
33:30I got to eat some candy, man.
33:32I need some sugar.
33:32Yeah, I got to go somewhere.
33:35Who's the Miami Hurricanes kicker this year?
33:39I don't know.
33:39Boragallis?
33:40But you messed up my A1C.
33:42Who is it?
33:43Who is it?
33:43Isn't it Boragallis?
33:44I don't know.
33:44I'm asking.
33:45Shouldn't you know?
33:46If the kicker is as important as you are saying it is, and you're a massive Miami Hurricanes fan,
33:53and making fuel goals is as important as you're saying it is, shouldn't you know right away, immediately?
34:00Yes, I should.
34:01Who's FIU's left tackle?
34:05Who's FIU's left tackle?
34:06You lined up for that one.
34:08No, I got him.
34:09I think I got him, though.
34:09I think I got him a little bit.
34:11I think I got him.
34:11Look at him.
34:12No, no.
34:12I'm with you.
34:13I'm with you.
34:14I'm exposed.
34:14Who's FIU's left tackle?
34:19Who's the Miami Hurricanes' left tackle?
34:20Who's their kicker?
34:21Who's the Miami Hurricanes' left tackle?
34:23I don't think he's as important as the kicker.
34:25So who's the Hurricanes' kicker?
34:27I think it's Boragallis, but I'm not sure.
34:31You know why?
34:32Who's on first?
34:33Because the only time, the only time you'll know when that kicker is, is when he misses.
34:39When he's kicking a field goal of consequence, you moron!
34:43When he misses a field goal of consequence.
34:45No!
34:46When he hits a field goal of consequence.
34:49It's almost like you don't know who Sebastian Janikowski is.
34:54It's crazy to me.
34:56Do you remember who they had before Andres Boragallis?
35:00Do you remember who the Hurricanes had before Andres Boragallis?
35:03Yeah, the guy with the funny laugh, Turner.
35:06Yes!
35:07Do you remember how bad he was?
35:10He had a big field goal, though, didn't he?
35:11To beat Virginia.
35:13Oh, Solana.
35:15Can you name anyone on FIU's football team?
35:17No.
35:18Yeah, Keon Jenkins.
35:20And?
35:23And?
35:25Keon's cousin.
35:25Yeah, and.
35:26Keon Jenkins.
35:27Keon Jenkins.
35:28And?
35:32But and what?
35:33And?
35:34I'm asking another name.
35:35Is that a player's name, and?
35:38You tell me.
35:39I'm asking you.
35:40Do you name, can you name another FIU player?
35:43And now you're searching it up.
35:44I see you.
35:45I see you on the computer looking it up.
35:46I see you.
35:47I mean, it's like.
35:48I don't.
35:48I don't know.
35:49All of a sudden he goes right into computer mode.
35:51I see the hands moving.
35:52Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no.
35:53I'm looking up the Hurricanes depth chart.
35:54All right, do the headline.
35:55Did you finish the headlines?
35:56Those are your sports headlines.
36:01Your weather.
36:02It's thundering hard here, man.
36:04Wow.
36:05It's beautiful in Davey.
36:0792 degrees.
36:08I mean.
36:09I think I won that argument.
36:10I apologize.
36:12You won that argument.
36:13I think I did.
36:14I mean, you could not sound dumber if you tried.
36:19If I wrote a script for you to sound dumb, and this was the segment we did,
36:25someone would say that script was a little overdone.
36:27It's just not believable.
36:29No one would ever have that particular opinion.
36:32Yeah.
36:32I don't know.
36:33It's just not good at all.
36:34Yeah.
36:35Yeah.
36:35Yeah.
36:35I absolutely loved it.
36:36Yeah.
36:36Yeah.
36:37Yeah.
36:37Yeah.
36:38Yeah.
36:38Yeah.
36:39Yeah.
36:39Yeah.
36:40Yeah.
36:42Yeah.
36:43Yeah.
36:44Yeah.
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