AUDIO RELEASED: Maxwell makes SHOCKING claim about Epstein's client list

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00:00Joining you as well. Joining me now, Jonathan Turley, constitutional law attorney and Fox

00:04News contributor. Jonathan, good to have you on this breaking news as we are going through

00:08the release of the documents, which obviously is an area of great interest to a lot of folks

00:14out there. This Epstein file conversation that Ghislaine Maxwell had with Todd Blanche

00:19and the other attorneys. What's your take so far on what you've learned here?

00:23Well, this is a terrible buzzkill for most of the media in this town. I think that anything short

00:31of a picture of Trump with the entire cast of the Rockettes would have been disappointing given

00:36all of the media and speculation saying that he was a perfect gentleman or didn't see any

00:44even massages going on. It's not what many in this town had hoped for. There's been this narrative

00:51that Trump has engaged in everything from the Ukraine to cracking down on crime in D.C. as

00:58a distraction of what Maxwell was going to reveal. So there is that dynamic. The fact is that there's

01:07nothing that has been so far revealed that would indicate that there was a major failure to prosecute

01:16an individual. You know, this starts out with a discussion of daddy issues by Maxwell, the type

01:22of thing you would normally hear in a pre-sentencing hearing with a judge saying that, you know, there

01:29are mitigating factors here. It's clear that she wants some type of deal. She already has a bit of an

01:36upgrade in where she is currently incarcerated. But, you know, you talked about a type of reduction of

01:43sentence motion. And that ordinarily doesn't occur unless you have far more substantial cooperation,

01:51like testifying at a trial. Any type of commutation, let alone a pardon, would unlikely come until the end

02:00of Trump's term. So, so far, this has not moved the news story that much, with the exception of being

02:08that sort of Sherlock moment of the dog not barking and what you can take from that.

02:15Yeah. She makes some comparison in here to the Epstein list being something like a Salem witch

02:22trial. What do you take away from that, Jonathan?

02:26Well, the list is probably the most newsy aspect so far. You know, there has been this

02:33speculation that there's this hidden list, the insurance policy that was being held and that

02:42she would be the most likely custodian of that list. She just outright says that list doesn't

02:48exist. And I actually think I know how that rumor began. That's a major blow for many people that have

02:56been trying to build this narrative. The Democrats in Congress have been particularly hammering on this

03:01in answering some of the controversies recently. They just keep on saying, I'm not going to address

03:09that because this is all an effort to hide the Epstein matter and the possible release of this list.

03:15Well, she's saying there isn't any list that she knows of.

03:20You know, given the FBI investigation and the things that were taken out of his home and,

03:28you know, all of what was understood to be in terms of the traffic coming in and out of there,

03:34based on the testimony of the young women who claimed that they were basically, you know,

03:39sold off to these different people, including Epstein, during their time working as, you know,

03:44massage girls, does it strike you as credible that there's no list, no documents, no diaries,

03:53no journals that sort of document who these people were? Well, I have to say that, you know,

04:00Epstein appears to have cultivated powerful men by offering up these girls. And the assumption was

04:08that he would want a deliverable, something that he could hold over these individuals for influence.

04:15Now, it is possible that he felt he had enough influence by simply making these girls available

04:22to these individuals. So it is possible that there isn't any list. But the question is really,

04:30you know, whether Maxwell is gaming the system. I think you have to assume that she is. She's in a

04:39very desperate situation and she wants to offer something up. But, you know, the part of, I think

04:45the critics will come forward and say, she knew that the only shot she has is really a presidential

04:50commutation. And that's only going to come if she clears Donald Trump. Well, you can certainly

04:55speculate to that. It's also possible there's nothing to clear, right? It's also possible that

05:00there's no there there, you know. And she, you know, she said early on that, you know, that there wasn't

05:09any list, so to speak. Epstein, now she's saying that, you know, Epstein and anyone else who was

05:16involved in these friendships never saw President Trump do anything inappropriate. I mean, obviously,

05:25you know, this is going to be something that will not really surprise President Trump, who has said

05:30this all along. And for all of these years, you know, under the FBI, under the Biden administration,

05:36when all of these documents and things that they were going through with regard to these files

05:40didn't seem to yield that either. And then you have a lot of people who believe that there is

05:46this huge conspiracy to cover up these individuals. And they're, you know, really railing at this whole

05:52system. What do you think is going to be the response with with folks who are have just not

05:57never been satisfied on this front and believe that they're not being told the truth here?

06:02Well, those people are not going to change. And the fact is that this is a town that's addicted to

06:07conspiracies. And but also people have fixed interests here. Epstein is a shiny object

06:13at a time when you need a distraction. But the key to remember is that this is the most ubiquitous

06:20figure in all of these photos. She's always there. I mean, she was seemed inseparable from Epstein.

06:28So she is a valuable witness. I was floored when her counsel told me that she had never really been

06:35interviewed by prosecutors. And I was so skeptical at that. I required multiple lawyers to confirm that

06:43to me. So it is interesting, Jonathan. Why wouldn't they have all, you know, interviewed her every which

06:51way? Yeah, I'm not sure. You know, there's that old expression, don't ask a question you don't know

06:55the answer to. And God knows some of the answers coming out of Maxwell could very likely be disturbing

07:02for your interest. But I don't know why prosecutors, state or federal, did not want to get her down

07:07on the record as to what she knew, what she saw. I think that's one of the unanswered questions here.

07:17But in terms of what she knows, she is saying here that she doesn't know much at all in terms of further

07:24incriminating information. Now, she probably does have some nasty stuff with regard to other individuals.

07:31I'm sure she did see some massages occur. But, you know, from what we see here, this is not what

07:39the opposition has been hoping for. I mean, I agreed. And, you know, certainly what she's saying

07:46about President Trump, as I said, will not surprise him because it's what he has said all along.

07:52But excuse me, we have to remember the testimony of these young women that the jury found compelling

07:58enough to convict Glenn Maxwell about what she did and the role she played. One of them said, you know,

08:05he was just Pinocchio. She was Geppetto. In other words, she was pulling the strings on this operation

08:10of bringing these young girls in to conduct massages. And then they claim it went much further than that.

08:17Think about the Prince Andrew testimony as part of this as well. You know, you just you have to, I think,

08:24continue to keep in mind what she's saying today and what this jury found based on the testimony of

08:30the young women. No, I think that's right. And look, Maxwell is, in my view, the most interesting

08:36character in this awful drama. I mean, you know, Epstein was just a pedophile and a creep. So were many of

08:43his friends. Maxwell has this bizarre history where she was the daughter of a media magnate who had his

08:53empire collapse, leaving her with very little. She finds a safe harbor with this guy Epstein. And then

09:01she facilitates these horrible encounters and transits for young girls. She was convicted of being

09:11a facilitator of the most heinous types of crimes. It's not just a fall from grace. It's someone who

09:20seemed to leave humanity aside as she sort of embraced Epstein. Now, in this interview, she sort

09:26of alludes to that with the sort of I have father issues and I found Epstein. That's not going to cut

09:33it. Lots of people have father issues and they don't become, you know, transporters of young girls

09:40and sex traffic operations. Yeah, exactly. Jonathan, thank you.

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