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00:00Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:05All right, this is the crossover.
00:07Giddings, Guru, Willard, Dibs, happy Radio Day.
00:11National Radio Day.
00:12National Radio Day.
00:14Not local, National Radio Day.
00:16I feel like on National Radio Day we should clear some space out for, yeah.
00:21Cheers.
00:22Now, what is that beverage?
00:24I meant to ask.
00:24Oh, it is a, let's see, it's about.
00:28Seltzer?
00:28I'm having withdrawals.
00:30It's about 50 proof.
00:32Still?
00:32No, dude.
00:33Yeah, it's a 50 proof.
00:35Oh, Will.
00:35It's out there.
00:37It is a cranberry clementine sparkling water.
00:42Cranberry is what it is.
00:43Yeah, this is me getting it on over here.
00:45Attaboy.
00:46Getting after it over there.
00:48Well, so yeah, earlier I was sort of guesstimating the amount of combined years in radio in this room right now,
00:54which I can contribute very few.
00:56Oh, God.
00:56Gu took it as a slight, and that's, you know, that's what happened.
01:00No, I got a problem with my age.
01:02It's all good.
01:03I'm working it out, dude.
01:04No, but I'm like 60 years in the room.
01:06There's a lot of stories to tell.
01:07I'm more than 60 because.
01:08That's what I said.
01:10Guru quietly has a sneaky 13.
01:12Look at my man.
01:13We can talk about the 2012 lucky break, which our previous PD, Jason Barrett, came up with this great idea.
01:25We held four regional tryouts with, you know, eight qualifiers each.
01:31And, you know, you emerged.
01:33And what's interesting is that Joe Shasky actually qualified out of the regionals, but he was too busy to actually go through with the bit,
01:41which was too bad because he was really good.
01:43And he told me that.
01:44He still is really good.
01:45No doubt.
01:46And Daryl the Guru Johnson emerged, and we were at the old Pedro's.
01:52Oh, I'll never forget it.
01:53Down there on King Street.
01:54I dropped by and think about it.
01:54And we did live shows.
01:56And you had hair, like, all over your head.
01:59I did.
02:00I got pictures.
02:01Mad bum.
02:02What do you want?
02:02Before he was mad bum.
02:04David Lee dropping by.
02:06Eric Davis, the DB for the Niners.
02:08Yeah.
02:08And you were like, you were kind of like, not quite like NC State because you weren't that much of an underdog,
02:13but it was survive and advance.
02:15And you did.
02:16And you advanced.
02:17And then you got, the bit was, you got a one-year contract to do weekends.
02:23And he did it with some guy whose name escapes me.
02:26Not Zachariah.
02:27Whatever.
02:28It was the bit guru.
02:28Yes, I can't stand him.
02:31We got weekend show of the year.
02:33We have.
02:34How many were there?
02:35Yeah, the only weekend show.
02:36About 30 years.
02:37Exactly.
02:38Hey!
02:39I still had a plaque.
02:40But he went from weekend show to, you know, fill in to now Mainstay.
02:44So now you're quietly 13 years in.
02:47And I'm looking at year 27.
02:51Was the question, is there 60 years in the room?
02:53Because I think you and I could do that by ourselves.
02:56Close.
02:57I'm 30 in.
02:58Oh, wow.
02:59A clean 30.
02:59Oh, yeah.
03:00You're counting Boise?
03:01I'm counting, like, by sophomore, junior year in college, I was doing high school football
03:07games on the radio and hosting Sunday morning the next day, or Saturday morning the next
03:13day after the high school games.
03:14Okay.
03:14The town events, hour-long radio show where people would call in and sell things to each
03:20other in Paso Robles, California.
03:21Oh, right.
03:21If we're counting that, then I'm 37 years in.
03:25It's radio?
03:26Because I was here at 80.
03:27Why wouldn't we count it?
03:28I was working for our news station called KCSN, and I was anchoring the news and doing play-by-play,
03:34and then one night, Rodney King got pulled over, and he got an absolute savage beating.
03:43Yeah.
03:43And so for the next year and a half or two years, we covered that story because we were
03:47Northridge in the trial with Simi Valley, so if we're going back to college radio, which
03:52is fair, I'm not discounting it.
03:54It's all on the air.
03:55I'm at 37, bro.
03:57So, Will, you cover Shaq and Kobe down there, huh?
03:59Every night.
04:00Like, right, you need to talk to him.
04:02I was closer than I'm sitting to you right now.
04:05Shaq was the hardest human being to interview in the history of mankind and creation because
04:09I kind of wish you'd move on back up.
04:11Yeah.
04:11There'd be 20 people, and he mumbles, and he is larger than a T-Rex, and so reaching your
04:21people's, trying to reach to get the microphone, like there would be tussles, media tussles to
04:28try to, like, you're, like, boxing people out like I'm trying to get a rebound so that
04:33people could get their arm in the right spot to get the microphone close enough to that
04:38would check, so that that could actually be audible on the air the next day.
04:45But, yeah, I covered that locker room.
04:47I was in there every single night.
04:48Well, in that case, North Dakota State counts.
04:52Count the bucket, Evan.
04:53Let's go.
04:54We might be in 100.
04:55Evan, when he was a true freshman in North Dakota State from small, no-name town in Minnesota,
05:01was a very nice young man, and actually had a ton of access to him because, shocker, there's
05:06not a lot of media in Fargo, and we would...
05:09What were you doing in Fargo?
05:11I was the sports director.
05:12Listen to that.
05:14Look at these lines like a sport.
05:16You go from Willamette, and you graduate, and your baseball career is not meteoric, but
05:21it was a nice little run for you, and you're thinking, how do I get a gig, and Fargo pops
05:27up, and you're like, you know what?
05:28We go to Fargo.
05:29Oh, we popped around.
05:31There was seven states in seven years, so we went from Oregon to Minnesota to North Dakota
05:37to Pennsylvania to North Carolina to Texas, back to California.
05:41Oh, yeah.
05:41Oh, yeah.
05:41Sorry.
05:42No, that's...
05:43Howard Dean.
05:44That was totally Howard Dean.
05:46My man.
05:47Oh, yeah.
05:48Well, then, in that case...
05:49Some people got that joke.
05:50That's a five for old people.
05:52I got it.
05:53Hey, go ahead.
05:53Yeah, now, that was really local radio day.
05:56There was no national involvement whatsoever.
05:58And that's how you had to do it.
06:00That's how you had to do it.
06:01Because you're from the Bay, who was like...
06:03His area is social media, like people, their talk shows are in print, like...
06:08You just go to Amazon and buy a microphone and turn it on.
06:12No, I'm saying for you, Dibs and I, like Pete Franklin was my...
06:15We had six...
06:16It was AM.
06:17Who was your guy that...
06:18Did you have one where...
06:19Oh.
06:21Hey, Greenwald doing the Giants.
06:22Welcome, everybody.
06:24Yeah, because, I mean, that's probably the best call in terms of, like, what kind of clicked
06:29with me, because as a kid, that was the thought.
06:32I was going to be the voice of the Giants.
06:33Oh, wow.
06:34See?
06:34I was going to be the voice of the Giants.
06:36That's like...
06:36I was going to sit in front of the TV and call the Giants games.
06:40And, yeah, I read Hank Greenwald's book and all of that stuff.
06:43He was great, man.
06:44Yeah, yeah.
06:45Transistor radio under the pillow, which, of course, I found out later.
06:49Like, everybody, once you become a parent, you realize that your parents knew everything.
06:53No doubt.
06:53All the things that you thought you were pulling over on them, you pulled nothing over on them.
06:58So that was what I used to do when they made me go to bed when the Giants were still in the sixth inning,
07:02is I had a little radio that stuck under the pillow, and I put it at a volume level that I thought was low enough so that I could hear it and no one else would know.
07:12And they knew.
07:13They knew every single time.
07:14Yeah, there was two for me.
07:15One was in the late 70s when disco became a thing, Dr. Don Rose had a show on KFRC, 6, 10 a.m., and my older siblings were like classic rock, and it was Zeppelin and Floyd and all the rest of it.
07:31And I just wasn't into it.
07:32I was into the Bee Gees.
07:34And so in 78, post-Saturday Night Fever, Dr. Don Rose had a morning show, and he had this crazy voice, San Raquel, and he did all these funny bits, and then he would play the hits, and I loved the hits.
07:48And the other one, you'll love this, Evan, was Bill King, who was doing Warriors, A's, and Raiders.
07:54And at the time, you know, growing up in Marin, I was, you know, a Giants fan, but not as much as my siblings, and being the youngest, I was kind of looking to branch out away from them.
08:06But the Warriors was the one team in our household that everybody loved, and so, you know, Bill King doing those games in the late 70s, early 80s, and the, you know, the Holy Toledo and all the rest of it.
08:18Bill King, to me, was the absolute apex of play-by-play.
08:23I got to meet him a couple of times, late in his career, you know, sitting there with his biker shorts on, or his, like, jogger, his dolphin shorts.
08:33We both had him on our Mount Rushmore.
08:35Yeah, yeah, so that for me is when it was like, man, radio, and yeah, you wanted to be Hank Greenwald, I wanted to be Bill King, I wanted to do all three sports, and at the time, I was like, yeah, I'm gonna get there.
08:47Easy.
08:48I mean, what's the holdup, right?
08:49Yeah, I mean, he was probably the...
08:51I mean, he still wants to know why you didn't...
08:53He's doing about eight sports, but anyway, sorry.
08:56I mean, he's so great.
08:57He's one of one.
08:58College football is great.
08:59One of about 12, you know, football, baseball, basketball, golf, golf, yeah, I mean, he'd probably do other stuff if he wanted to, if he had any time.
09:08I think that was like the first guy that I remember really being on the radio, but it also brings back memories of just doing copious amounts of work in the yard.
09:15Like, we had this big old magnolia tree in the back, and the one thing about magnolia leaves is they don't degrade.
09:21They just sit there.
09:22And so every single Sunday, you get the broom out, and you just brush leaves or rake leaves, and Bill King was probably the only person or voice that I can remember being like, all right, well, this is fine.
09:33And this 30 minutes every single week is gonna be okay because, well, at least his voice is on.
09:38I don't know about you.
09:39I mean, for you, Gu, who, like, who was it?
09:43Oh, man.
09:44Kind of like the first person you remembered getting you into radio.
09:47It was Pete Franklin.
09:48Yep.
09:49And I had a delivery courier job around the Bay Area, and just, I could tell you when Michael Jackson was gonna be played, he got monotonous, and I almost hated music because I was in the minivan so long.
10:00But when I heard that guy's pipes, it never was the vision of, that's something I want to do.
10:06It was, I gotta give my opinion.
10:08Pull over!
10:10And, you know, didn't you realize how many people you thought you were being secretive?
10:15Because there was nothing in it for me but just to share my opinion.
10:18And 50 of my friends, whenever I see them, anybody, parents of my friend, I heard you on the...
10:23And I'm like, that's a powerful vessel.
10:25It is.
10:26And then that kind of, the addiction started that way.
10:28But it was always just to get my takes off.
10:32Anybody else ever call a radio show before you worked in the business?
10:36Did you ever call dibs?
10:37Never.
10:37I don't think so.
10:38You've never called dibs?
10:39Never.
10:39I did.
10:40Who did you call?
10:41I did it twice.
10:42I called one time, and this, I wasn't that young.
10:46I was probably in my early 20s, and I called Rod Brooks and Fitz.
10:50Oh, man.
10:51And I was weighing in.
10:52The Giants were gonna go to the playoffs, and I was weighing in on what the rotation should be.
10:57Game one, game two, game three.
11:00And Rod was like, hold on a second.
11:03You know, like, in that order?
11:04And then I was like, no, no, no, no, no.
11:06I'm gonna adjust the order a little bit.
11:07And then Radnich one time...
11:09Gary.
11:10Gary was doing a contest.
11:12Yeah.
11:12He did a contest where you had to, like, try to sound like an NFL films voice.
11:18And I regret it, because I can do it, but I...
11:21You choked?
11:22I didn't do well.
11:23Oh, no!
11:24I didn't do well.
11:24We were so good at that.
11:26Yeah, I didn't do well.
11:27It's hard when you're sitting there on a phone or whatever, but still, I was in my living room
11:31right next to my dad's stereo, and I was trying to, like, sound like John Facenda and do an
11:37NFL films bit, and I did not win.
11:39I did not win.
11:40You're listening to 95.7 The Game, KGM, ZFM, and HD1, San Francisco, and Odyssey Sports
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11:48studio as well.
11:50Would you like to try again?
11:52Yeah, that's, Evan, that's phenomenal.
11:54You can do it.
11:56We had a bit called Harry Kalish, because there's an old school guy from Philly named
12:03Harry Kalish, and he does a great Harry Kalish, and so...
12:07And he kind of took over for John Facenda after Facenda got 2-0.
12:12Willard, that's a 9, man.
12:13Dude, it's a 9.
12:14That's a 9.
12:15That is him.
12:17So...
12:17Gary, if you're listening, Gary, another shot!
12:20Dude, totally.
12:21I'll win another shot!
12:22Was there a big prize, or you can't remember?
12:24I don't even remember what the hell was on the line.
12:26Yeah, he'd probably, you know, bleach your seats to a Giants game or something.
12:29Who knows, right?
12:30Whatever.
12:31That's what the freebies are all about.
12:33I don't, like...
12:34Yeah, calling in...
12:35I think I was just too chicken to ever do it, but I always had a lot of respect for people
12:39who do.
12:40Same nowadays.
12:41Like, literally waiting on a phone for...
12:44Because everyone here does, you know, hits on other stations and stuff, and so it's always
12:48interesting.
12:48You don't know really where you're gonna start, but you're just waiting for 5 minutes, maybe
12:536 minutes, sometimes longer, and then you just gotta go.
12:57But I can't imagine being a caller, not really knowing where the hosts are steering a conversation,
13:03and then you gotta jump in, give your take in 90 seconds, sound like you know what you're
13:07talking about, so as not to get ripped or flushed, which happened from time to time.
13:12Oh, yeah.
13:12And then be on your way and just ride that old adrenaline high.
13:17Oh, it's interesting.
13:18And, like you said, I mean, you got the Lakers and the Bay under, and dibs, you've done everything.
13:23Like, how many shows have you actually been on with partners?
13:27I would go back to The Adventures of Amy and Larry, Christian Radio, 1999 to 2000, Jesus
13:35Loves You on 280.
13:36Dude.
13:37That gave me into Bob Coburn on The Bone, rest in peace.
13:43And we got replaced by Lamont and Tinelli, and I was furious, and then they ended up having
13:48a 22-year run, and so I wasn't as mad, and then I was on with what used to be Murph and
13:54Mac, and then Gary Radnich, and then came over here with the Rise guys, and that lasted
14:00as long as it lasted, and I was kindly asked to take the elevator down, and then a year
14:05later I came back and grinded it out and got Jolo and dibs, Stiney Guru and dibs, and now
14:12Willard and dibs.
14:12Look at that.
14:13So I lost count, but I've got stories and memories of all of it.
14:17You got book worth of stuff, both of you.
14:19Utility guy.
14:20Yeah.
14:20I mean, basically, right?
14:22I mean, I went from fourth outfielder to, you know, playing a real position, and then
14:27they're like, nah, you're going back to AAA, and then you get called back up, and you know,
14:31you're again the fifth outfielder, and then you get a shot, and you're like, okay, I'm
14:35the outfielder.
14:36Campanaris.
14:36Yeah.
14:37And don't forget your L.A. real quick, your L.A. where you said you went to try and
14:40out for a show.
14:41Oh, I'll never forget that.
14:42We both tried out for this station.
14:44Come on!
14:45Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
14:45980 the Beast.
14:46Yeah, not 880 the Beast.
14:47Oh, I've heard of this.
14:48Your tryout was on air, though, right?
14:50Oh, three days.
14:51Jim's made three days on air.
14:53I just got one trip to a hotel room with Yogi Roth and George Reister, that old tight end.
15:00Oh, yeah.
15:00That was all I got.
15:01So how did that go?
15:02Did you get on air?
15:03Obviously not very well.
15:04My agent at the time is like, my agent's like, I think I got a shot for you.
15:10You know, you're going to fly to L.A.
15:12It's going to be Genie Zalasco, Marcus Johnson, and you.
15:16The former Buck.
15:17Correct.
15:18Yes.
15:18So I go in there, and it's been Genie and Marcus forever.
15:21And so I come in, and Genie's looking at me like, dude, this mother father, what are
15:25you doing here?
15:26And Marcus is giving me side eye like, okay, I'm willing to try it.
15:31Day one goes, and it's awkward, and I'm, you know, I'm trying my stuff.
15:34By day two, I got Marcus doing voices, and we're doing material, and it's back and forth,
15:41and Genie's like, talk blocking me seven ways to Sunday.
15:45By day three, she's like, all about, like, I'm about to leave this show.
15:50And Marcus and I are, you know, doing our thing.
15:52We're having a great time.
15:53So the three days go by, and I call my agent, and he's like, yeah, I think it went well.
15:58Let's see how it goes.
15:59Five weeks later, the station is shuttered.
16:02Gone.
16:02Gone.
16:03Gone.
16:03Oh, so it wasn't even, like, you didn't make the show, like, the station was just kaput.
16:07Kaput.
16:07And you would have moved, though.
16:08Dims would have been in L.A.
16:10I mean, I probably would have, considering the status of my then marriage.
16:15I remember that phone call.
16:16You called me about that.
16:17Yes.
16:18You remember that?
16:18Yeah, and you and I would talk maybe twice a year.
16:21Maybe once or twice a year.
16:22I was like, this is back then?
16:23Oh, yeah.
16:24Come on.
16:24When did you guys meet again?
16:26Probably 2007.
16:27What year was it?
16:28Come on.
16:28Final four in Atlanta when Florida, like, the Joe Kim,
16:33Noah, Al Horford, the Florida teams.
16:35Oh, my God.
16:36Right?
16:36Yeah.
16:36When Al Horford was in college, I'll go back, back.
16:40Probably 2007.
16:41And what's funny about Mark and I is that every six months or so, he'd either call me and say,
16:46hey, what's going on with the Bay?
16:48Or I'd call him and say, dude, Southern California, is there any action?
16:52And so we'd have these moments.
16:53And then, I'll never forget, I bumped into you at Silverado back in, like, 20...
16:58That was right when I got here.
16:59Exactly.
16:59That was right when I got here.
17:00And I was like, dude, you're here.
17:02I know.
17:02And you're like, oh, my God, you're still here.
17:04And we were like, whisper, whisper behind closed doors.
17:06Like, wouldn't it be great if someday we could, you know, ABC and DEF?
17:10And he's like, yeah, absolutely.
17:12And I was like, I'm, you know, I'm with a guy who can't stand me.
17:15Dude, this is great.
17:17Man, I didn't know y'all went back there.
17:19I'm with no guy at all.
17:21I'm just me, midnight, in my basement, just talking to a wall.
17:26Did you see the end coming in L.A. for you?
17:29Like, did that end on good terms, I'm going back north?
17:31I had to force my way out of a contract.
17:34I wasn't, it wasn't coming to, like, the professional side of my life wasn't coming to a close.
17:39Let's put it that way.
17:41But no, like, I had always wanted to get back here.
17:45This is home.
17:46And so, yes, he's like, Dibs is not wrong.
17:49Like, I was constantly building relationships with what was going on up here.
17:53And part of it was, like, when I mentioned some of these jobs that I had, Tony Bruno years ago and whatnot,
17:59you know who one of the bosses was of that network?
18:02This guy by the name of Matt Hagen.
18:04So, I've known Matt for even longer than I've known Dibs.
18:08And so, that was, once he kind of came up here.
18:11Come on.
18:11Right.
18:12So, I'm like, I keep building relationships with what's going on up in the back.
18:16And then, yes, it was KMBR who finally, like, one time, the station down in Stout never knew this.
18:23They sent me up here for a San Diego State-Stanford football game.
18:27And they're like, would you go up there?
18:28And I told them right away, I go, you're damn right I would.
18:30Because what was going through my mind is not be there for the game.
18:33I got some stops to make.
18:33I'm like, I need to meet with Jeremiah Crowe and Matt Hagen.
18:36And so, coffee dates, bang.
18:39And I sat there with Jeremiah and he's like, I think I got something.
18:42JC.
18:43I think I got something.
18:44And that was, so then I had to go to my station, which was actually in San Diego.
18:50And I'm like, boss.
18:52I'm out.
18:52This is what I've been waiting for forever.
18:54But they had me for another two years.
18:56So, how did that, they were cool.
18:57It was, he was very cool.
18:59Okay.
18:59It's like, it's like working your way out.
19:01Because it could have got funky if they were like, yeah.
19:03You got to work your way out of a straight jacket a little bit.
19:06So, it takes months.
19:07Damn, guys.
19:08But we did it.
19:09We did it.
19:09Yeah.
19:10And look now.
19:11Yep.
19:11Yeah.
19:11Look now.
19:12And it speaks to like relationships in general.
19:15Because he and I do go back 18 or so years.
19:19And it was always like, hey, you know, this guy's cool.
19:23I like you too.
19:24And like, okay, stay tuned.
19:26So, never burn bridges.
19:27You never burn bridges.
19:28Yeah.
19:29Amen.
19:30Amen.
19:30Even when I got fired from.
19:31Heaven knows that already.
19:32Just a quick story about radio.
19:33And I hate to bore everyone with my stories.
19:35National Radio Day.
19:36I get fired from the bone in January of 03.
19:40And I've got an 18-month-old and a baby on the way.
19:44And I'm furious.
19:46So, I go into the studio.
19:47And I'm going to rob them blind.
19:49Oh, look at this.
19:50So, I pull out 50 or 60 CDs.
19:52Michael Porter, dude, you don't say that.
19:53I pull out all these CDs.
19:56Back when CDs were a thing.
19:57Yeah, I got you.
19:58I stack about 60 CDs.
20:00Led Zeppelin Live.
20:02Cheap Trick Live at Budokan.
20:04I got it all.
20:05And I walk to the door.
20:06And I'm about to open the door.
20:07And I go.
20:07And I stop.
20:10Put them back.
20:11I turned around.
20:12And I put everyone back.
20:13I love it, dudes.
20:14In order.
20:15Labels up.
20:16Bop, bop, bop, bop, bop, bop.
20:17Put all of them back.
20:18Walked into my studio.
20:20I get my box full of my S.
20:22I walk to the elevator.
20:23As I'm getting in the elevator, I hear in the distance,
20:26ladies and gentlemen, for the first time,
20:28Lamont and Tonelli.
20:30Rah!
20:31Oh, that's awesome!
20:33Elevator's closed.
20:33My replacement.
20:34And season.
20:35Night, night.
20:36That is.
20:36Night, night.
20:37Whatever.
20:37I was going to rob them blind.
20:39I was going to steal $300 worth of,
20:41now useless, by the way, music CDs.
20:45But I had that moment at the door.
20:47I was like, oh, a morality clause.
20:49Dude.
20:49Look at you.
20:50That was a long time ago.
20:51That he didn't violate.
20:52I know.
20:53I mean.
20:53I was 34.
20:54He learned his lesson.
20:55You were 34.
20:56I was 40 when I bought my first ream of paper.
20:59Let's put it that way.
21:00Oh.
21:00And that wasn't even from companies that had found me.
21:02And then I'm having an ream of paper.
21:04I'm like, if you're going to make me work at midnight, then I'm going to just take a ream
21:08of paper on my way home.
21:09What's a ream of paper?
21:09I'm out of paper.
21:11Like, you know.
21:11Who knows?
21:12Packs of paper.
21:12A pack of printer paper.
21:13Oh, okay.
21:15She's on second.
21:16I'm out at home.
21:18Oh, boy.
21:20That's great stuff.
21:21Oh, my God.
21:21I didn't know you and the Hegan had that history.
21:24Oh, yeah.
21:24Wow.
21:25Yeah, yeah, yeah.
21:26Wow.
21:26Yeah.
21:27Couple local boys.
21:28Yeah.
21:28Right on back.
21:29Yep.
21:31Pods today, huh?
21:31And he didn't like me that time either.
21:34No, what do you mean he didn't like you?
21:37Well, let's just.
21:38He's a football guy.
21:39He doesn't like you.
21:40No, no, no, no, no.
21:41No, not pods.
21:43Mahigian.
21:44Yeah.
21:45Pods.
21:45I mean, you go through stuff with your boss.
21:47There are days that he doesn't like me now.
21:50Six days a week, he does.
21:51Who knows about that?
21:52Yeah.
21:53Hey.
21:53Oh, Bobby.
21:54Oh, sorry.
21:55My boy been snitching this week.
21:57You just never know.
21:58Mike, there'll be a couple of strays.
21:59The aforementioned Jason Barrett hired me twice and fired me once.
22:05And I'll say this about him.
22:07And you're up to the one.
22:07Willard and I told Evan, how can I say any bad word about that man that came up with the
22:12concept for me to even get in the game of radio?
22:16So I'm going to defeat him to the end.
22:18I love that you said that earlier and I loved it.
22:20Like, that's my guy, man.
22:21Because I think there's too many times in our professional world, maybe our private ones
22:27too, where we get to a spot where our ego starts driving the whole thing.
22:32Damn.
22:32You forget, you forget.
22:34You forget the opportunities that people provide you.
22:36So I love that you thought about it that way.
22:38That's awesome.
22:39And I'll never forget my come up, which was at the Barry Bonds federal trial here in San
22:45Francisco, the federal courthouse.
22:47I was working with Radnich at the time and I did a live hit.
22:51Boots on the ground.
22:52Boots on the ground.
22:53And the whole bit was like, you know, remember back when reporters would shout things at people
22:58as they're coming out of the courthouse?
23:00And my whole thing was, Barry, are you going to Oakland, Barry?
23:04Barry, are you going to be in Haynes?
23:06Barry, did you do it?
23:07And we're doing it live on the air and Radnich thought it was the funniest thing he ever heard.
23:11And in that moment, I went from update guy to this guy's got a real future.
23:17That's all it takes.
23:18That's all it takes.
23:19And that's when Tony Bruno and they start doing their hits and you were a part of that.
23:22And at the time, he was actually working, Mark Willard was working with Tony Bruno.
23:26I was Bruno's partner.
23:28Right.
23:28And so I would get on, like once a month, I would like get on that segment for, you know,
23:36for four words or whatever.
23:38Biggest thrill of my life.
23:38So real quick, one of my favorite shows of all time, the best damn sports show.
23:43Were you down there doing that?
23:45Oh, yeah.
23:45Because he would do hits on, I know, night time.
23:48Fox TV, Fox Sports Radio are actually not the same company.
23:52So there's blend, there's overlap.
23:55The John Sallies, you didn't have met all of them.
23:57I mean, some of them.
23:59But, yeah, I wasn't that close to the TV stuff.
24:01John Sallies.
24:02The radio stuff.
24:03Perfect.
24:04Marcellus Wiley you've met.
24:05Wiley I used to do shows with all the time.
24:07That's why, like, if you want to play, we should play the partner game, because you
24:11probably had more shows.
24:12Right.
24:13But I also did, either as a fill-in or the weekend stuff at Fox, like, if you make it
24:20count where I've had that partner for a day or two, I mean, I'm probably closing in on
24:24a hundred different people.
24:25No doubt.
24:26Like, it's that many people.
24:28Damn, man.
24:28Yeah, and Marcellus is definitely one of them.
24:30That's great stuff.
24:31Yeah, we did a lot.
24:32Right on.
24:32Well, 85 years and counting of radio coming up next.
24:36Yeah, no doubt.
24:36You can stay if you want.
24:38I can listen.
24:39You can sit on me out of there.
24:41All right.
24:41Willard and Dibs coming up next.
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