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00:00Would you consider yourself a mentor?
00:02No, absolutely not.
00:04Now, why is that?
00:04Because I don't care enough about anybody else but me.
00:09Now, back to Stiney and Guru on 95.7 The Game.
00:14All right, Stiney's going to be back tomorrow, Evan in with Goo,
00:17and it's time for the crossover with Mark Willard, Dan Dibley.
00:20What's up, boys?
00:21What's going on, guys?
00:21Yes, sir.
00:22Happy Monday off the long weekend.
00:24We care about both of you.
00:25I just want to say that.
00:26He's telling you the truth.
00:27Some of us, yeah.
00:28Are you guys so full that you ate so much barbecue?
00:32Because I did.
00:33That was a bloaty night, wasn't it?
00:35Good thing it was Friday, so we had a couple of days to work it off.
00:39You know what I mean?
00:39A lot of eating this weekend.
00:41Okay.
00:41You know, Friday, having it on a Friday.
00:43You back on me, Gibbs?
00:43Yeah, here and there.
00:44Okay.
00:44You know, we'll pick and pop.
00:46I had crab last night, which was delicious.
00:50Pop Pop thought that it would be good to get some crabs,
00:53and so we went out and got those, you know, pound and a half,
00:55pound and three quarters, whatever.
00:56And, you know, we talked about this.
00:58I don't like meals where you have to work,
01:01and when you go to the crab, like, you crack it.
01:04You got to fish your way through it.
01:05Easy act then.
01:06Yeah, once you get to the actual meat, it was good.
01:09But I'm with you, Mark.
01:10I'm out.
01:11I won't even get peanuts at the ball yard.
01:13It's like, I'm going to be ready to eat this, or it's not ready to eat.
01:17If it's ready to eat, I'll eat.
01:19Oh, man.
01:19It's not ready to eat.
01:20You got to do shellfish?
01:21No lobster, no crab, no oysters?
01:23I'll do it.
01:24I don't not like it, but it's not worth the payoff to me.
01:29People pulling out special forks that have little two prongs on them.
01:33They're about three inches long so that you can find the food.
01:36That's pretty good.
01:37If I'm going to pay for lobster, get that thing ready for me to eat it.
01:41I don't have to go find it for $49.99.
01:45Stop it.
01:46I'm out.
01:46That's fair.
01:47I'm with you.
01:47I feel kind of similarly about ribs.
01:50Ribs are good, but they're just messy, though.
01:52They're messy, and you got to clean them off to yourself.
01:54To really eat a rib, you got to spend some time and really get after it,
01:59and you're ripping the meat off the bone and all that.
02:00But good ones fall off the bone.
02:02That's true.
02:03That's true.
02:03Chicken wings as well.
02:05Wings is another one.
02:06Boy.
02:06Don't get me started on wings because the drums, like people say you want the flats
02:11or you want the, if it's the drum stick, that can't be the wing.
02:15The wing is just the wing, I thought.
02:17Anyway.
02:17Oh, that's a good point.
02:18Never thought about it like that.
02:20That's another one.
02:21As long as you're different.
02:22No, I love wings, but there needs to be more of them.
02:25Man, talk to me.
02:27Just find a different bird that's got thicker wings.
02:30Let's eat those.
02:31I got you.
02:32Not enough on there.
02:32Yep.
02:33You got to lay it on them, man.
02:34Yeah, so this was something that
02:36we were kicking around.
02:38I don't know.
02:38Non-Kaminga related.
02:39Yeah, non-Kaminga related.
02:41But I was driving back from San Diego yesterday and Gu was at the California Classic.
02:46And so I was just thinking about like, if he had seen someone big, wouldn't have known
02:51it.
02:51There wasn't a ton of big names, not a lot of talent, but he might have seen, looking
02:55back on it in a couple of years, someone who was next up.
02:58So I'm thinking, well, who have you seen that maybe was in high school, college, maybe
03:04covering a small team.
03:06Oh, man.
03:06Where you look back and you're like, damn, I didn't realize that guy was going to be
03:11that.
03:12So Gurus was Pajemski.
03:14And Eddie House.
03:15Yeah, because he saw Eddie House as a kid, saw Pajemski in college.
03:19I broadcasted for a team that had Tarek Skubal on it.
03:22Oh, no way.
03:23When he was in AA.
03:24So like five years ago, I didn't realize that I had witnessed what was going to be the best
03:29pitcher in baseball.
03:29That's incredible to be a pitcher in the game.
03:30Yes.
03:31And I wouldn't have told you that it was going to be that either.
03:33And it could be high school.
03:34No, I'll give you a funky story on this one.
03:37This is a little bit of a funky story because the first time I was able to get away from
03:42college for an actual job, it was to broadcast minor league baseball in Boise, Idaho.
03:47Look at him.
03:48In the Angels organization.
03:49And I go up there and I did two seasons up there.
03:52And I think it was year two.
03:53But I was that dorky guy who like, these are single A guys coming right out of college.
03:58They would go to the amateur draft and then immediately it was short season single A.
04:03So the season wouldn't start until June.
04:04The guys come right out and I was thinking the same way you guys are thinking.
04:09I'm like, man, someday these guys are going to be up in the bigs.
04:13And through the whole league, there were plenty of guys who ended up making it.
04:17But the one that stands out to me, the weird scenario I had, John Lackey was on one of the
04:23teams.
04:24He was on one of the teams and this is minor league baseball on buses together for 90 straight
04:29days pretty much.
04:30And so I got to know the players pretty well.
04:33And then flash forward.
04:36So that would have been, I guess, 98.
04:39Four years later, I'm covering the Giants Angels World Series.
04:44And I am sitting there dying for the Giants to win this thing so that I can take my credential
04:50into the clubhouse.
04:51It all falls apart.
04:52You're ready.
04:53And there's John Lackey to win game seven.
04:55And now my station needs me to go out on the field.
04:59And instead of getting to talk to Giants, I got to go talk to Angels.
05:02But I'm going to talk to this cat who I knew really well.
05:06Bittersweet.
05:06Right?
05:07Like, to see what his face did when he's out there in Anaheim.
05:12And then he turns and sees someone that he knew from Idaho.
05:15He's like, what the hell are you doing here?
05:16I'm like, I'd like to ask you the same question.
05:18Right.
05:19Go Giants.
05:19That's beautiful.
05:20So that's my story.
05:21Why couldn't you still be in Idaho?
05:23Exactly.
05:24Here's a rally monkey.
05:25Blue game six.
05:27As you were telling that story, I was flashing on when I was doing some TV work of the San
05:32Jose Giants.
05:33And Jose Altuve came in.
05:35Might have been with Visalia or whatever.
05:37And he was having a nice little single a year.
05:39But I was like, no way.
05:40I mean, there's no chance.
05:42Paul Goldschmidt was in the league.
05:44And it's like, okay, you can see it.
05:45And Altuve is like, good little hitter.
05:47He was hitting like 340 or whatever.
05:49But I was like, no way this guy makes it to the majors.
05:52It's single a.
05:53Right.
05:53And then, you know, skip ahead, whatever, many years.
05:56And now he's, you know, on a Hall of Fame track.
05:58Wow.
05:59The other one probably would be Jared Goff, who went to my high school, Marin Catholic.
06:03Hang in there, big guy.
06:03He was a good high school quarterback.
06:05He saw it.
06:06Yeah, solid.
06:07He played baseball against them.
06:08Yeah.
06:09I didn't think that he would go on and do this.
06:12Wow.
06:13Do what he did, you know.
06:14Go to a Super Bowl.
06:15Exactly.
06:15Make $52 million a year.
06:17Yeah, so, you know, that, I guess, would be the only real example.
06:22Yeah, he was like the local kid done well, because he went to Cal, and he started his
06:25freshman year.
06:26But, you know, he saw a little quarterback, and then he starts dialing it up, and you're
06:31like, wow, he's going to be the number one overall pick in the draft?
06:34And this guy might go on and make $200-plus million?
06:37Like, I don't know about that.
06:40But, it's funny you mentioned the guy who you're like, I don't really know about.
06:44That guy was actually Logan Webb.
06:46Like, I broadcasted for a team that was his first year in pro ball.
06:50Whoop!
06:50He was awful.
06:51Really?
06:52Logan Webb was awful.
06:53You can go look up his stats.
06:55He was like, as a 19-year-old, he had a 5 ERA, and he was one of the starters for the
07:00Salem-Kaiser Volcanoes.
07:01Damn!
07:01And he was awful, and out of anybody on that team, I would not have picked Logan
07:06Webb to go be a multi-time All-Star.
07:09Life for life, man.
07:09Which he was just selected for yesterday.
07:11Don't give up!
07:11That's crazy.
07:12Wait, did you broadcast for Salem-Kaiser?
07:14Yeah, two years.
07:16Dude, that's the same league.
07:17It is.
07:18Yeah, the Boise Hawks.
07:20Correct.
07:20Were in the league four times, then they left.
07:23Right.
07:23But Boise, sorry.
07:25It's a really nice place.
07:26Yeah, this is a good stadium.
07:27A good stadium.
07:28We enjoyed the week.
07:29Pretty wooden.
07:30Yeah.
07:30Well, maybe it was when I was there.
07:32That was a long time ago.
07:33But anyway, yeah, that's the same league.
07:35I know it changes constantly.
07:37Northwest League, yeah.
07:38It went from Angels, then it went to Cubs, then it went to no one.
07:41It was the Rockies when I was there.
07:42Was it Rockies?
07:43Yeah.
07:43We had a caller call in and say they were somewhere in the mission at a rap concert.
07:46Their conscious daughters from Oakland opened up, and Jay-Z was the opener.
07:51And they were booing them.
07:52Anthony called, yeah.
07:53He was proud of that, too.
07:55Yeah, yeah.
07:55He was like, we were booing Jay-Z.
07:57He was the opening act.
07:58Life changes, baby.
08:00It sure does.
08:02You got to ask him before we get to the Giants and All-Stars.
08:04The what?
08:05Their fifth, the quarterback.
08:07Oh, oh, yeah.
08:08You got to do that.
08:09How did he get to this?
08:09I'm curious.
08:10So, again, I got a lot of time on the road yesterday, ten and a half hours.
08:13Lord.
08:13And I'm thinking about just everything in sports.
08:17And I'm going down.
08:18I don't know why I was thinking about quarterbacks.
08:20My brother might have been talking about them.
08:21And I'm like, okay, well, so, you know, top five, it's Mahomes, Allen, Lamar, and Burrow.
08:28And then I get to number five, and I'm like, who's number five?
08:31I have no clue who the fifth best quarterback in the NFL is.
08:35And there's about eight names I wrote down that I think have a case.
08:39And I'm tired of being a hater because nobody called me, and I call myself, Jalen Hurts has won a Super Bowl.
08:46I still doubt him, but he's won a bowl, been to two, one at your house.
08:52So, why wouldn't that be my fifth if I was just being fair?
08:56You could make the case.
08:56He's on the list.
08:57Yeah.
08:58It depends on sort of, as always, with these things.
09:01Like, how are you asking?
09:03If you're asking me, okay, you've got next pick, and you're starting an NFL team.
09:07I mean, I know it's only been a year, but I would take Jaden Diggs.
09:10Okay.
09:11That's what I would do.
09:12On the list, too, I'm sure.
09:13As is Justin Herbert, your guy.
09:15He probably would be on the list of next up.
09:19But is Brock Purdy on that list of, you know, the top five quarterbacks?
09:23And you had, like, an eight-way tie for the fifth name.
09:26Was Purdy another guy who would be in there?
09:28Brock was on the list.
09:29So, I wrote Stafford, Hurts, Daniels, Herbert, Brock, Stroud, Goff, Baker.
09:39Interesting.
09:40Those are the eight.
09:40I didn't even mention Dak.
09:41Yeah.
09:42Wow.
09:42Sorry.
09:43No, that's true.
09:45I get it.
09:46Jordan loves not.
09:47See, he should be in there to me.
09:49Not for me.
09:49And that's fine.
09:51It's just his list.
09:52I would take, like, I.
09:53Love was on mine.
09:54I would take love over C.J. Stroud.
09:57And Baker.
09:57And Baker Mayfield.
09:58And I'm worried about Daniels having the RG3 year.
10:01He was incredible.
10:02I won't forget it.
10:03You sound like you've been listening to Cam Newton.
10:05Don't listen to Cam Newton.
10:06What did he say?
10:06He said exactly what you just said.
10:08I'm out on Cam.
10:08He said, I see similarities to RG3.
10:11Oh, no.
10:11And I think that Jaden could be a one-hit wonder.
10:14Oh, Cam.
10:14And I just started to notice.
10:15But I just said the same thing.
10:16No, I know.
10:17But here's the difference between you and Cam.
10:20I know you well enough to know that you will say all kinds of negative things
10:26and all kinds of positive things.
10:28If you just Google Cam Newton and click on news,
10:31all you will do is it's a line of Cam Newton criticizing quarterbacks.
10:36That's all it is.
10:37He's done it to Purdy.
10:39He did it to Jaden Daniels.
10:41He's done it to Geno Smith.
10:43Jalen Hurts.
10:44He's done it.
10:44He's done it to everybody.
10:46And so Cam, to me, just strikes me as somebody
10:48who doesn't like the way people view him.
10:51So he's lining up to just rip every other quarterback out there.
10:54To be fair, though, if RG3 hadn't snapped his leg,
10:57he probably would have been pretty good.
10:59No, there's no doubt.
10:59Saying you're the next of a guy who we didn't get to see what happened
11:02because of a catastrophic injury isn't a horrible thing to be compared to.
11:06It's funny.
11:07Watch how young Kyle looked.
11:08His offensive coordinator, his dad's a coach last time.
11:11They were in the off.
11:12Incredible.
11:13Yeah, and he actually snapped his leg in college first at Baylor.
11:17That's right.
11:18You know, he was a two-sport star.
11:19He's a track athlete and a quarterback.
11:21And I think he did the ACL then and got better
11:24and then happened in Washington again.
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11:39Yeah, so just kicking around a lot of different things today.
11:41But one thing we actually didn't get a ton of time to break down
11:45was the three All-Stars for the Giants.
11:47Yeah, but what you don't know, Evan,
11:48is I sent a group text to my buddies here last night
11:51just pointing out that I got it right about three pitchers going down.
11:55Yeah, it's a big laugh.
11:56I was on the road.
11:57I'm sorry.
11:58I need a life.
11:59I didn't tell Evan I sent it to my dude.
12:01No, but I looked at it quick.
12:03Did you say three starters?
12:04First it went to four players, and then Stoddy goes three pitchers.
12:08They won't get that.
12:09Three pitchers.
12:10Yeah, and then we had the discussion like sometimes middle relief gets forgotten about.
12:14No, I was really.
12:15But the bet was three pitchers, and I got it.
12:16I was excited to see Randy Rodriguez make it.
12:19That's beautiful.
12:19And if you also saw, there was the graphic that just showed what the players voted for.
12:24Oh, I missed that.
12:25Randy got that, and Robbie Ray did not.
12:28So Randy, in many ways, like from the player vote, he got a whole lot of respect.
12:33And sometimes you don't, yeah, if you're just coming in for the seventh inning all the time,
12:37it can get lost in the weeds, but I'm glad he got recognized.
12:40Real quick, what's Ray doing amongst his peers?
12:43Not that it's bad.
12:44I love the Steffi Graf grunt.
12:46Oh, when he throws.
12:47Yeah.
12:47But there's more starters.
12:49Is that hate?
12:49Yes, I got you.
12:50He's not the one.
12:52He's not their number one.
12:53That's probably why.
12:54And Clayton Kershaw's out here getting, you know, he's getting passes, which I'm fine with.
13:00I'm not saying it's a problem.
13:01If it was his last season, I wouldn't have a problem with it, but we don't know that.
13:06Like the whole legacy tour, I don't have an issue with.
13:09Players that are great should be hailed and given their flowers.
13:14Yeah, but if you announce like, oh, this is going to be my last year,
13:17and then they give him an opportunity to get in the All-Star game one last time, I get that.
13:20Maybe they know that and we don't.
13:22That's true.
13:23But I just feel like, well, why not Verlander?
13:26Because he has zero wins.
13:28Right.
13:29He looks awful.
13:30That's true.
13:31He looks awful.
13:32Remember, we thought on Chicago, the ball fly outs were nothing to see here.
13:35We didn't start right after, man.
13:37Wouldn't you cry foul if he goes to the All-Star game and just gets three up, three down?
13:41You'd be like, well, that didn't look realistic at all.
13:43That's right.
13:44I mean, that's what they're going to do with Kershaw.
13:46They're going to ask three guys to take a dive just the same way they served up Cal Ripken a meatball when he was doing it.
13:53I mean, it would be appropriate for a last big national, big highlight game for Kershaw to get bombed.
14:00Yeah, I guess.
14:01I mean, and the only time he didn't was the World Series that doesn't get full credit.
14:06And if you go back to the 2020 World Series, he was awesome.
14:09That's how he is supposed to be when you're Clayton Kershaw in October.
14:12And the one time that no one was there and it's an asterisk or whatever, it's a third of a World Series title, I think.
14:20He goes out there and deals in Texas, you're right.
14:22I still think I'd take Verlander over him, though.
14:25Like, if you're talking about a career, I don't know if you guys thought about that at all.
14:28But I think Verlander's, like, his career numbers are better than Kershaw's, and his postseason numbers are better than Kershaw's.
14:36But the peak is where Kershaw would have him beat.
14:39So if your life depended on it and you had to hand the ball to one of them, I would give it to Kershaw.
14:44And I know Verlander's the dog, but when you talk about peak, I kind of like, I feel like I got the right answer.
14:50Like, if I can take 2012 Verlander, which I believe is the year he won MVP, or 2011 Kershaw.
14:57Knock the A's out.
14:58The year he won MVP.
15:00It's close, but I think I'm taking JV.
15:03Kershaw's probably more special, but don't you hate it if, like, one of the first three things you think of about a guy is how bad he was in the postseason?
15:13Would that be Matt Stafford?
15:15Actually, Matt Adams.
15:17Matt Adams is the guy.
15:18Matt Stafford?
15:20He won a Super Bowl.
15:21No, but up until then, all I heard about him, and I've always liked him, but then he gets the Super Bowl at the end with John Elway.
15:27Like, he was just like, he was with a bad organ.
15:30Like, Kershaw, they get to the playoffs.
15:32No, I get it.
15:32And then he gets shown.
15:33For a decade.
15:34Right.
15:34Like, his, this used to be, you know, about five years ago, this was a conversation that would happen a lot up and down the coast, which was Bumgarner versus Kershaw.
15:44Because Kershaw had all of the stats, and Bumgarner had all of the postseason.
15:51And it's like, what would you rather be?
15:53The ladder.
15:54The post.
15:54There you go.
15:56There you go.
15:56Wow.
15:57Like, he classically got worse when the moment got bigger.
16:02That's a terrible thing to have as a characteristic.
16:05As far as optics, because I'm so excited just about sports in general on these next six for the A's.
16:11We'll be there Friday against the Dodgers.
16:13Oh, yeah.
16:13Just watching the Giants in that part.
16:16Can you just share with me what went through your, I'm just out.
16:19Wait, you went?
16:21No, I watched the games.
16:22Just watching them bothered me.
16:24It totally bothered me.
16:26And we were talking in the green room about different angles and things with the Giants.
16:30And the one I'm having a hard time wrapping my brain around is how do I express the feeling I had watching that other than it's just an embarrassment.
16:37And it's an embarrassment for baseball that you allow that team, any team, to play in that park.
16:43And, you know, you're watching it.
16:45And when the center or the high home camera goes up to follow the flight of a ball,
16:49and you look and it's like, there's people on the grass and there's...
16:53No, you want to know what my favorite one was?
16:55The start of the game.
16:57They're like, here we are at the ballpark.
16:59And I'm like, oh, my God, a foul ball might hit one of the cars.
17:03Like, you should be able to park at a Major League game without thinking,
17:07honey, are we in the line of the foul balls?
17:10Like, it's just...
17:11Ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding, ding.
17:14That's it.
17:15That's the sound of the Major League.
17:16It's Major League Baseball, dude.
17:18You're right.
17:18They should be embarrassed they signed off on that.
17:20And that's part of what my takeaway is growing to be is, you know, baseball and a lot of these sports,
17:25they don't really care about you, the fan, and the fan experience.
17:29And I think about football and the fact that half of the teams play on an artificial surface,
17:33which you know is bad for players.
17:36But that doesn't matter because we can save a little bit of money here and there.
17:40And, you know, it also made me think how fortunate we are to have these teams here
17:45because, like, Oracle Park, it's first-rate Chase Center.
17:49It's an absolute palace.
17:51And, you know, Levi's is Levi's.
17:53It's not a dump.
17:55It's not probably your favorite.
17:56But, yeah.
17:57So we have ownership that values the experience, and we have great places to watch these games.
18:03That's why it does feel kind of appropriate, though.
18:05Like, I went to Petco over the weekend.
18:06And that ballpark represents its city.
18:10Like, it feels like San Diego.
18:11I would argue that Oracle Park feels like San Francisco.
18:16Like, the Giants, that's their park.
18:20A's are kind of made for Sacramento.
18:23Like, I'm just being honest.
18:24No, it does.
18:25It feels appropriate based on the way they've imported themselves for the last two decades.
18:29It reflects its ownership.
18:31There's no doubt about it.
18:32Yeah.
18:32Oh, man.
18:33I agree with that.
18:34But, yeah, but it's, I mean, it's, I don't know if sad is the right word.
18:39It's close.
18:39It's just, I don't know.
18:41I mean, what do you do with this thing?
18:44What do you do with this thing?
18:45It's been absolutely run into the ground.
18:47Hit home runs.
18:47I don't know.
18:48Can they afford to, or ill afford to have this happen again next year at this venue?
18:53This, where they're at now.
18:55Where else can they go?
18:57I mean, they put a shovel in the ground.
19:00Man.
19:00Put a shovel in the ground last week.
19:02Man.
19:02Oh, man.
19:03Now, I will say this.
19:04This was a weird byproduct.
19:06I kind of enjoyed a 7 o'clock Sunday night game.
19:09I was just going there.
19:10I know it's because it's 114 degrees, but that's also perfect for a team that's headed
19:14to Vegas.
19:15That was awesome.
19:15Yeah.
19:16Like, I loved it.
19:17You don't have to be the national game.
19:18Once the national game is over, we had something else to watch all the way to bedtime.
19:22It was super weird, and all three games.
19:25And, like, Saturday, you kind of get in the rhythm of, okay, it's day baseball.
19:29Or if they're back east, it's like, all right, this game will be on at 10, catch a little morning
19:32Giants, and then you get into Saturday.
19:34It's like, that's right.
19:35This game is at 7 o'clock on a Saturday night.
19:38It's just the whole thing is super funky, but then you watch the Giants, and you realize,
19:44hey, that shortstop with the purple glove, good little hitter.
19:48And, you know, he gets hot, Devers is hot, and Chappie's back, and so you come out of
19:52that weekend feeling a little bit better, I think, about, you know, the Giants' offense
19:57for one.
19:58It's a little early for gripes, Goo, but can we end apology forms?
20:04Well, let me put it out.
20:05I shouldn't have to apologize to Willie Adamas.
20:07I got you.
20:08Because he's been hitting well for 15 games.
20:10I hear you.
20:11We were just talking about athletes to get off the big contract, the slow starts, and
20:15then they heat up like they're supposed to.
20:17Well, yeah.
20:18Do you owe him the, you know, love me to add good material last night?
20:20Depends on what you said about him before.
20:22Well, then there we go.
20:22What'd you say?
20:23Well, I didn't say he was a god-awful player that should be in Richmond, Virginia.
20:28I just said he's probably not going to hit worth his contract.
20:33See, I knew he was.
20:34He's also hitting .226 right now.
20:35I mean, what percentage?
20:36Home runs he lost here.
20:38He was on the ball.
20:40You know, the grand slam we thought.
20:42So, it wasn't like he was just swinging and missing at everything.
20:45And I'm with you.
20:46He had been bad.
20:47But now, all of a sudden, he's taking the walks.
20:50Things have slowed down.
20:51Now, tonight he might hit two balls that should have been out in Milwaukee that might go for
20:55outs.
20:56But if you look at the grand scheme of everything, he's been hitting the ball for a while without
21:01results.
21:01And baseball is that sport that is brutal like that.
21:04I mean, like, if you're, you know, he's not living up to his contract.
21:08Like, what percentage are we through his contract?
21:11Like, we're not even close to 10% yet.
21:15So, I think there's so much of that story still to be written.
21:19You may end up being right, even with this hot streak.
21:22But that, like, I mean, that's baseball.
21:24Like, I don't know.
21:25Lucas came in today, and he's bothered by Rafi Devers.
21:29And I just think it's too soon to be bothered by Rafi Devers.
21:32It's too soon.
21:33That intrigued me.
21:35But what part of this?
21:36Just the actual production?
21:38I think your sentence was, this is not what I was sold.
21:42Is that right?
21:43That's fair.
21:44This is not what I was sold.
21:45But it's been 19 games?
21:47And he's dealing with the grown issue or what have you?
21:50I mean, he's changing leagues.
21:52He's changing coasts.
21:53He's changing clubhouses.
21:56Yes, he's hurt.
21:57He's changing positions.
21:59And again, and his OPS is about 750.
22:02It's not 550.
22:02Yeah, no doubt.
22:03It's 750.
22:04Well, how about this?
22:05I'm just not bothered.
22:06I'm not saying it's been great.
22:07I'm not bothered yet.
22:08Like, give it a second.
22:09He walked so Adamus could run.
22:12How about that?
22:13Like, Adamus has been hitting a lot better.
22:14I like that, too.
22:15And maybe there's a...
22:16That's how it's supposed to work.
22:17An extra, you know, bit that's rubbing off on Adamus.
22:20I mean, I love that right when we said this last week,
22:23and this probably is what we should be talking about,
22:26is Jung-Hoo Lee spent the week sort of looking like a baseball player again.
22:30And that's the one I was worried about.
22:32I'm not worried.
22:33I've never been worried about Adamus or Devers.
22:36Yeah.
22:36Just grab a baseball card and look at the back of it.
22:39I know what those guys can do.
22:40Yeah.
22:40They're going to have good months.
22:41They're going to have bad months.
22:43We've always known that Oracle Park turns a 25-homer guy into a 20-homer guy.
22:47Yeah.
22:47That's just the way it's going to be.
22:48And I really feel like this.
22:50I'm going to put myself, court-martial myself, in radio jail.
22:54I told Stiney at certain different junctures,
22:57as Adamus was really getting off to a slow start,
23:00he was celebrating everybody else's success as if it was his.
23:03But that was a staple of who he is.
23:06Just because he was down, he was still going to celebrate your success.
23:11So I watched it.
23:12It felt kind of corny saying that.
23:14And then last night on the telecast, after he hits the bomb,
23:17he's the same person.
23:19And they pointed out, when I was the hater,
23:22like he was trying to fool us, like, forget about me, bad number 200.
23:26I'm going to celebrate Devers' home.
23:27Nah, that goes to who the man is.
23:31That's part of what they're paying for, too.
23:32Oh, my God.
23:32That's right.
23:33That's right.
23:33That's what they're paying for.
23:34Dave's living.
23:34Yeah.
23:35He's happy for everybody.
23:36Yeah.
23:37Go on.
23:38And in response to your question,
23:41I don't believe in apology forms in any form.
23:45You know, if you're critical of a guy who's struggling,
23:48you're right to be critical of a guy.
23:50It doesn't mean that you can't then acknowledge,
23:52hey, he's doing better.
23:54But see, that's where Stiney will get you at.
23:56Anybody like that.
23:57Like, you can't come back.
23:58Once you crucify him, you can't double back and take it.
24:02Why can't you just say I was wrong?
24:05That's what I'm trying to do daily.
24:07Exactly.
24:07You don't need to apologize.
24:09But you ain't sitting in no form.
24:11No.
24:11No, and at the time that Evan said that, he was right.
24:14Like, he wasn't living up to his contract.
24:17Now, if he says, you know, he never will live up to it,
24:20and then he goes out and has MVP-like years,
24:22well, Evan would have been wrong,
24:24but you still don't have to fill out an apology form.
24:26Same way that when you're hitting 180, you don't need to apologize.
24:30Unless your name's Anthony Rendon.
24:32He needs to apologize.
24:33All right.
24:33Everybody else is trying and actually likes the sport that they play.
24:38So, it's hard.
24:39You're going to have crappy months,
24:40especially when you're pressing and it's a new team and all these things.
24:44Yeah, the story is still just barely being written.
24:47I get more focused on the larger view as opposed to, like, this player and that player.
24:53I still think, okay, great, they won.
24:56But I don't know about y'all.
24:57I watched the first four or five innings last night.
24:59I'm like, I'm mad.
25:01Right.
25:01I won nothing, but I'm mad.
25:03The first inning again.
25:04Like, this pitcher cannot throw a strike.
25:07And Matos, don't swing when the ball is a foot above the strike zone
25:11and you can walk in another run.
25:13And Hayden Birdsong, I don't know what, like, you want it effectively wild,
25:18but there's no clue where the ball's going.
25:21I've got five innings.
25:21No clue where the ball's going.
25:23We've got to start spelling Birdsong with two Bs.
25:25Yeah.
25:26That would be a one.
25:28It's really good.
25:28A four and two these next six innings, would you be happy?
25:32Would you be satisfied?
25:33This week?
25:34Yes.
25:34Absolutely.
25:35Four or two.
25:36Even three, three.
25:38See, now that.
25:38Starts tonight.
25:39Yeah, three and three, huh?
25:41Well, I mean.
25:42But you don't want that.
25:43Of course not.
25:44No, but you wouldn't be mad at it.
25:46Okay.
25:47If they go three and three, you hit the break at what?
25:50Fifty-two and forty-five?
25:52Man.
25:53All right.
25:54Yeah, a little decent spot.
25:55Three all-stars.
25:56Yeah.
25:56Rock solid.
25:57All right.
25:57Probably should have had a fourth all-star if you look at Rodgers' numbers.
26:00Tied for a club spot right now.
26:02Could be.
26:03Could be.
26:04All right.
26:04Well, appreciate it.
26:05Stine's going to be back tomorrow.
26:06But what's coming up next in the game is Will and Dibbs.
26:08Let's go.
26:0995.7 The Game.
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