00:00There's that initial spark when you're writing a song in a room as a collaboration.
00:04You kind of know in the first 20 minutes, like, we have a hit.
00:08But after that, that's where the insular part comes, because it's the lyric, it's the depth,
00:12it's the math.
00:13It's a lot of things that come into writing a hit song.
00:16And with 70 cameras in your face, it's hard to do.
00:30K-pop feels very, like, to me at least, it feels like pop music, right?
00:35It's just catchy, danceable, inspiring, happy.
00:39The thing about K-pop, it is an ecosystem.
00:41I think it's not necessarily a genre at this point.
00:44I think in K-pop, like, anything can happen at any time, and it's just all so good.
00:48And the attention to detail with the artists, from the way they dress to the way they all
00:54have their, like, specific image, and then they're dancing, and the whole thing is just
00:58such a, like, there's just such a precision to K-pop, which I think is just, like, really
01:03fire.
01:04I think, like, the reason people watch movies or, you know, turn to entertainment is,
01:09a lot of the reason is because, you know, you want to get away from your real life.
01:13And I think K-pop does a really good job of that.
01:16And it's just fun to work on, because, you know, a lot of music, especially for the past
01:21four years, it's a lot of, like, sad music and things.
01:23And I think for K-pop, it gives you the release to make something that's just fun.
01:28These camps can make or break a career.
01:31If you don't write a hit, you won't be invited back.
01:38This show had, like, 70 cameras.
01:41And so we showed up, and we were like, oh, yeah, this is going to be interesting.
01:47There's that initial spark when you're writing a song in a room as a collaboration.
01:51You kind of know in the first 20 minutes, like, we have a hit.
01:55But after that, that's where the insular part comes, because it's the lyric, it's the depth,
01:59it's the math.
02:00It's a lot of things that come into writing a hit song.
02:03And with 70 cameras in your face, it's hard to do.
02:06And I think for me, I reverted into, you know, everybody kind of has that safe place within
02:12themselves to be like, okay, I'm going to go here to be like, pretend it's okay.
02:15But it's like that bubbly, which I like about myself.
02:17But at the end of the day, I think it kind of, it just threw me off a little bit, you
02:23know?
02:24But I mean, ultimately, it was fun.
02:25But I think if we were to do it again, season two, who knows, I'd probably approach it differently.
02:31Yes.
02:32You came into this camp thinking that I didn't like it.
02:34Is this so uncomfortable?
02:35Jenna, it's good discomfort.
02:37Songwriting is such a sacred thing for us.
02:39Like, I mean, like it's, sometimes it's therapy, sometimes it's a party, sometimes, but it's
02:44always our thing, right?
02:46And so when you have cameras, you're caught between like, am I sitting right?
02:50Like, do I look crazy?
02:51Like, everything you say, you're worried that it can get chopped up and, you know, because
02:55it happens.
02:56I mean, it did happen.
02:57By doing this show, it's sort of like everything, this is not in like a negative way, but it's
03:02kind of against everything that, how we work, right?
03:05But we're also people that love the challenge and love to have fun.
03:09So it was like, okay, like, we're with it.
03:12What about Jenna and Steven?
03:13Are they dating?
03:14Cause I can't tell by how he acts.
03:15I do think that like...
03:16Okay, next time.
03:17Oh my God, am I that boring?
03:21You can't talk to your girl like that.
03:29It's such a blessing to have, to be able to spend as much time as we spend together and
03:33to be able to like, in real time, work out, see the blessing about us working together
03:38is that like, anytime we have a disagreement, like I don't go to work or she doesn't go
03:42to work and we take, you know, six, seven hours and we've been stewing on it all day
03:46and then we got to like sit.
03:47So like our relationship is just very moment to moment.
03:50We handle whatever we have going at the same time.
03:53And then we, we move on and we're, we're best friends.
04:01I want to, first and foremost, feel like a mentor and inspiration to all musicians coming
04:09up.
04:09But there's a soft spot in me that wants to be a mentor for young girls, you know, coming
04:12up in this industry.
04:13I think it's, it's more challenging for women.
04:16And I know I've said that before, but I do think when I go to sleep at night, that's
04:19something important on my heart to be able to wake up in the morning and say that like,
04:22I really can help, you know, pave the way for, for new girls coming into this business.
04:28That's important to me.
04:29I want to be perceived as somebody who like I am, I want to be perceived as a good son.
04:32I want to be perceived as a good brother and a great friend, somebody who's loyal.
04:37And on the music side of things, like, I think the thing about me personally and something
04:41that like, I want, I mean, I would love for people to perceive me as somebody who never
04:45cheated the game, right?
04:46Like I, I show up every time I, I do anything musically, like it's my first and last time
04:54doing it.
04:54And I try to give everything.
04:56I feel like creation is a gift from God.
04:58And I feel like, um, I was blessed with, with, with the ability to do this.
05:03And I don't, I don't, I take it very serious.
05:05Um, I don't take myself that serious, but I do take, I do take the gifts that I've been given
05:10and opportunities that I've been given very serious.
05:12I mean, there are people in the world who give up anything just to, just to have a, just
05:16to see a 10th of what I've been blessed enough to see.
05:19So, um, I want to be perceived as somebody who doesn't take that lightly and really shows
05:23up and really just gives a hundred percent.
05:26I don't, I don't, I don't ever want to cheat the game of music or cheat the process.
05:31You know what I mean?
05:32Like the results will be the results either way.
05:33You don't win championships every year, but for me, I just want to show up, um, consistently
05:38and give everything that I have.
05:44I certainly had no expectation.
05:46I was just like, let, I love K-pop.
05:49This sounds like a fire idea.
05:50Let's just see where it goes.
05:51And then for it to come out, go number one on Netflix.
05:54And then like the soundtrack explode.
05:57It's just like such a blessing.
06:03Obviously now watching this, did you, did we think a soundtrack?
06:08I mean, the truth is, is most labels would be like, turn their heads at soundtracks because
06:13soundtracks just don't, don't, I mean, they don't really stream.
06:16They don't really go.
06:17It's like, it's about the movie and they go away.
06:18Right.
06:19I think with this particular one, because it was K-pop, I think we both thought it probably
06:25will do something.
06:26But to this extent, no, definitely not.
06:33So let's see how this memorial just gave.
06:45But that's not.
06:48So let's see how what we saw with K-pop.
06:52So let's go, do you want to reach your perspective, and you can know?
06:55How about K-pop.
06:56So, we've spent with you the chance to see about.
06:59Please want me to come.
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