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The 5th Season ends with a bang! All four of their children fight with each other so viciously and so frequently that Shannon usually intervenes only if someone is really hurt!
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00:00Hi, we're the Krolikowski family from Dalry Beach, Florida.
00:04I'm Shannon.
00:05And I'm John.
00:06And we have four children.
00:09Kaylee is nine.
00:11Johnny's seven.
00:13Harley is almost four.
00:15And Thomas is two.
00:17I'm the parish manager at a Catholic church.
00:20And I am a cook at the same church.
00:23What are you doing with all the forks?
00:24I work 24-7.
00:26I also have a lot of council meetings that I attend to
00:29that keep me late.
00:33Kaylee's a bully.
00:35She's not a bully.
00:36She is.
00:39What's mom doing about this?
00:41I mean, come on.
00:43John.
00:44I'm not playing.
00:48Johnny can be very relentless.
00:50I mean, if he wants something,
00:52he's going to keep on and on.
00:54You're not getting it.
00:56No.
00:56Carlee's very sneaky.
01:00Carlee, what are you doing?
01:05Thomas, he can get a little aggressive.
01:10When he wants something, he wants it.
01:13Now.
01:16Stop it!
01:17I don't handle any fighting with the kids.
01:20I don't handle any fighting with the kids.
01:20I don't handle any fighting with the kids.
01:22Kaylee and Johnny, they hurt one another pretty bad.
01:26I'll bite you!
01:27It has gradually gotten worse and worse.
01:31They push, and they punch, and they rip hair out.
01:34I don't handle any fighting with the kids.
01:36Oh, boy.
01:36Gladiators.
01:40Stop it.
01:41Frankly, they don't listen to me anyway,
01:43so I can't do anything about it.
01:45I'm out.
01:46They're not bleeding.
01:48What do they need me for?
01:50Oh, great.
01:51Like ignoring it is resolving it.
01:54I don't have any parenting skills.
01:58Don't put it on your face.
02:00Do you agree?
02:01Yeah.
02:02Skateboards and scooters belong outside.
02:06Get out of the pool.
02:07When I ask you to do something, do it.
02:10I don't like this modern parenting.
02:12You know, when I grew up, there wasn't time out.
02:13Johnny, can you grab your skateboard
02:15out of the grass over there?
02:16I'd rather just crack him across the rear end
02:19and let him know that that's an attention getter.
02:22Oh, dear.
02:24This man's going to be a tough nut to crack, isn't he?
02:27Yeah, you're awesome, all right?
02:28Personally, I don't think I need Super Nanny's help.
02:31Keeley, clean up your room.
02:33No!
02:34Do you think that I need Super Nanny?
02:38I don't know.
02:39Well, Mom clearly needs my help,
02:42and Dad clearly doesn't want my help.
02:47Stop that.
02:48When it's at its worst, all I do is cry.
02:50I'll take them over there, Johnny.
02:52When you don't want your kids around anymore, it's hard.
02:56Keeley!
02:58Super Nanny, please come help our family.
03:01Wow, this is going to be challenging.
03:03Guess I'll see them soon.
03:04Hello.
03:08How are you?
03:08Welcome.
03:09I'm good.
03:09How are you?
03:10Hi.
03:10Pleased to meet you.
03:11Joe Frost.
03:11Pleased to meet you.
03:12When I first met Joe, I was extremely nervous.
03:28Who do we have here?
03:30That's Carly.
03:31Hi, Carly.
03:32How are you?
03:33Thomas.
03:34Hi, Thomas.
03:35Oh, the wink, hello.
03:38That's Johnny.
03:38Hi, Joe.
03:40Bit of a rock star, huh?
03:42Mm-hmm.
03:42Keeley, meet Joe.
03:43Hi, how are you doing?
03:44Good.
03:45They're all quite mellow, aren't they?
03:47I have visited a lot of families, and I could certainly tell that something was slightly
03:51off-key here, because the children were behaving perfectly.
03:55Look at it.
04:00Hey.
04:01However, nothing really escapes my eye.
04:03Jump.
04:03Oh, she's watching it.
04:07Hey, she's watching it, so get off.
04:09We were behaving better than normal when Jojo was there.
04:15I didn't want to scare Jojo.
04:18The kids decided to play in the backyard.
04:21There's a swimming pool there, and I was absolutely appalled to see that the two- and three-year-old
04:26were scooting around the pool, and Mom was just behaving as if it was no big deal.
04:31I mean, what about safety here?
04:32She's not even looking.
04:41I can't just stand and stare at the pool because my kids are going around on a scooter.
04:45I can't do that.
04:46There's other stuff to do.
04:48Straight away, I asked Mom, is there any pool safety in place?
04:52Do you have a pool alarm?
04:54I do, yeah.
04:56I don't have it out here, but this gate is always locked.
04:59Mom told me that she doesn't have a pool alarm system in place, and she has four kids.
05:04250 to 300 children die a year from fatal swimming pool accidents.
05:11How crazy is that?
05:14So I'm out in the backyard with Shannon, and she starts to tell me that John insists that
05:20the whole family sit down and eat together when he gets home from work, and that it's
05:24ludicrous because those times can be very, very late and not appropriate for young children.
05:29This is a problem for you, I'm hearing.
05:31Yeah, we have a dinner hour problem.
05:34I want to eat at 5.30 or 6.
05:37Right.
05:37You know, depending on when we get home.
05:39Right.
05:39I want to get my kids bathed.
05:41I don't want to be doing dishes at 8, 8.30, 9 o'clock at night.
05:44Have you spoke to them about this?
05:46Oh, it's ongoing.
05:47For how long?
05:48It's been ongoing.
05:49Probably since we've been married.
05:51Cheers.
05:5113 years.
05:53If you really feel strongly about it, how come you've not resolved it?
06:04What's going on?
06:10I used to be so strong.
06:14I got worn down.
06:16Who doesn't wear me down?
06:18My kids wear me down.
06:19I don't know what's going on.
06:23I mean, I love my family, but I'm falling out of love with my life and my family.
06:28Mum is blaming the kids for taking her strength away, and I truly don't think she's supported
06:36much from John at all.
06:39I mean, let's face it, she's at breaking point, so I've got here at the right time.
06:42It's 6.30.
06:47The kids are killing time because they're waiting for Dad to come home so they can all eat.
06:52They're hungry.
06:53So this gives me an opportunity to talk to the older children.
06:56What do you get to spend most time with, Mum or Dad?
06:59Mummy.
06:59Because Daddy has these long meetings.
07:04Like at Kayleigh's birthday, he said he would like the candles, but he had this big meeting
07:09that was very important.
07:11Oh, so on her birthday, he wasn't there to do the candles?
07:13Mm-mm.
07:15And how does that make you feel when you don't get enough time?
07:17Sad.
07:20After hearing that story from Johnny, what I want to do now is talk to Kayleigh and see
07:25what she has to say about her dad.
07:27He's like sort of strict, so we sort of behave.
07:30Because if you don't behave, what happens?
07:33He'll get his belt out and he has a special spoon and he'll put like a face on the back.
07:40What kind of face?
07:41What do you mean?
07:41Like a sad face.
07:43Right.
07:44Let's face it, I've heard a lot about John, so I'm actually looking forward to meeting
07:48him myself and getting a chance to know him better.
07:55Dad finally got home after 7pm.
07:58Hi, John.
07:59Hi, there she is.
08:00Hey.
08:00Hi, pleased to meet you, Jeff Ross.
08:01Nice to meet you.
08:02After changing clothes, Dad came down into the kitchen and started to prepare for dinner
08:06and Johnny and Kayleigh were cooking up a stall on themselves.
08:10Look at this old face!
08:12Look at all those kids are going for it.
08:13Are they always like that, arguing and fighting with each other?
08:16Those two?
08:16Go fight.
08:17Yeah, they fight and argue.
08:19I try to let them work it out.
08:21If they can't work it out, then we've got to step in.
08:24I don't monkey around with them, you know.
08:26I'm not really into timeouts.
08:28I'm going to tell you to do it.
08:29I'm going to ask you nicely.
08:31But if it's not getting done and you're totally ignoring me, then I'm going to have to start
08:36raising my voice.
08:36And if that doesn't work, then the hand, you know, a little swat across the rear end never
08:42hurt anybody.
08:43The kids were talking about that today.
08:45They were saying that you got this belt and you got this spoon or something that's got
08:50like a face on it.
08:51I do not.
08:52Oh, you ain't made a spoon then with a face on it?
08:55No.
08:56So the spoon doesn't exist, you're telling me?
08:58It does.
08:59It's right here.
09:00Oh, it does?
09:01It doesn't have a face.
09:02Oh, okay.
09:03At 7.40, dinner finally went into the oven.
09:12That's going to be a while.
09:14But Mama decided she wasn't going to let the little ones wait any longer.
09:19We have those chicken tenders.
09:25If they want them, you know.
09:27Hey, there's nothing wrong with a father wanting to come home from work and eat with
09:34his family, but this is clearly about something entirely different.
09:39Very nice to sit down and eat together.
09:44Went through all the effort to make that.
09:47We could sit down and have it.
09:50Get them fed.
09:54We can sit with them.
09:56Didn't they have something to eat earlier?
09:57They've been eating, yeah, a little bit.
09:59So they're all right.
10:00This is all about what Dad wants.
10:02Dad wants to rule and control what gets done in the house full stop.
10:06It's his way or the highway, buddy.
10:09If they're going to school tomorrow, it is a school night, that's right.
10:15So if we can get them something to eat, then maybe we can sit down and have that in our
10:20salad.
10:22Dad finally agreed that it would be okay for the younger ones to eat earlier, and that
10:27he would eat half an hour later with Shannon when that meal would come out the oven.
10:36Thomas came out crying, and I got to see why these kids tread very carefully around Dad.
10:41I said to settle down, didn't I?
10:44Ew.
10:45You are not.
10:47What happened to Thomas?
10:49What happened?
10:50He jumped onto my daddy's show.
10:52Settle down.
10:55I won't ask you again.
10:56The kids settled pretty quickly, but I know why.
11:02They're fearful of their dad.
11:04And let's face it, I've seen enough now, so all I want to do is come back tomorrow and
11:08sit down and have a conversation with these guys.
11:10I have had a good day observing.
11:12There's lots of things that we need to address tomorrow so that we can really move on with
11:17making big changes here.
11:19All right.
11:21Well, I'm sure that Joe's going to tell me that I need some help and things, but I don't
11:26know.
11:27I think Shannon needs more help with certain issues than I do.
11:30Nice to meet you.
11:30Have a good day.
11:31See you tomorrow.
11:32I know what I need to address with these parents, so I'm going to leave and get back tomorrow
11:35hastily.
11:36Why don't we get straight down to business and discuss discipline?
11:52You have no authority.
11:54No.
11:55They don't take you seriously.
11:57No.
11:58You are a pushover.
12:00Yes.
12:00But when Dad comes home, it's a different story.
12:06They do as they're told, because to get a belt, to get a spoon, hurts.
12:19Now, I ask you this.
12:22Is it necessary?
12:23Is it necessary that you have to inflict that pain on your kid in order for them to listen
12:32to you?
12:33Sometimes it is necessary.
12:35Tell me why.
12:36If you don't understand verbal instructions, maybe you need a little attention-getter.
12:45If I could teach you guys a discipline technique that meant that we could throw away Mr. Spoon,
12:55would that not be an option for you?
12:56Let's talk about the time you're spending at work.
13:07There's no doubt in my mind that you have a very strong work ethic, but at what cost?
13:14Sharon, what do you need from John?
13:18John.
13:19John.
13:20John.
13:21John.
13:22What would time make you feel?
13:23Happy.
13:25That he was here and not there.
13:27That we would be together as a family.
13:31That the kids would have their dad.
13:32John.
13:33John.
13:34John.
13:35The way I see it, I don't know how long the gravy train's going to last.
13:47Mm-hmm.
13:48I could be gone tomorrow for my job and then having to foreclose on the house because I
13:55don't have a job.
13:56I totally understand what you're saying with regards to the economy.
14:01You can still be fully committed with what you do at the church.
14:05It's about finding the balance.
14:08Can we work with that?
14:10Sure.
14:15Let's talk about safety and your pool.
14:19We're very, very vigilant with the pool.
14:23That's not the case.
14:25And as quick as it takes you to come inside the house and use the powder room, it's as
14:29quick as it takes for Thomas to drown in that pool.
14:32Florida has the highest rate, the highest rate of children between the age of one and
14:38four of drowning.
14:41And those deaths happen when the parents just took their eyes for a minute.
14:47This is a wake-up call now, let's do better now.
14:52Yeah.
14:54So, a lot of things that have been talked about today with regards to what we could
14:59do to certainly make it a more contented household.
15:03I can't do it on myself.
15:07I need two willing parents who are committed.
15:10I'm ready.
15:11You're ready.
15:12Good.
15:13Let's let the healing begin.
15:14All right.
15:15You're ready.
15:16So, we better get busy, right?
15:17Yeah.
15:18Got a lot of work ahead.
15:19Okay.
15:20I'll see you soon.
15:21The first thing I want to deal with today is pool safety, that's a must.
15:29So, whilst Dad was at work, I spoke to Mum about the dangers of that and fixing it.
15:33The facts are accidents happen and they can be fatal.
15:37Okay, so what I've done is brought baby Brian here to give us a clear example of pool safety.
15:45I supplied Mum with a pool alarm system that have monitors as wristbands to go on the children's
15:50wrists.
15:51And then baby Brian decides that he's going to get curious and have a look at the pool and it looks
16:04quite inviting.
16:07And then just because young children do, because the water's fun and it's playful,
16:13he steps back and he says, I'm going to run and I'm going to jump.
16:21I certainly believe seeing a baby doll float in a swimming pool brings home the reality of what
16:32could be, but more for Mum to recognise the importance of making sure she always supervise
16:39the children and that an alarm is a precautionary device.
16:43There are two, one for Thomas and one for Carly.
16:47Okay, does that mean that you think because they're running around here,
16:50you decide, oh, I'm going to have a good chinwag with my girlfriend on the phone for half a night?
16:54Never, never, because as quick as it takes you to pick up the phone.
17:00You want to expose the children to the pool so much, but yet you want to feel safe too.
17:06Oh, it matches Thomas.
17:08It matches your shorts.
17:10Now I have both.
17:12I have the best of both worlds.
17:15The next thing I want to be able to do is to create some space for the kids to have fun
17:19away from the pool so they can ride their scooters and enjoy.
17:23So when Dad came home from work, we all got busy rearranging the patio area.
17:28If this door is locked and you know that there's an area for the younger ones, for example, Thomas,
17:34what can you do with this space here that would allow him to feel like he was riding his bike
17:39and going on a scooter?
17:40We could do another slide or something for Thomas over here.
17:45I mean, we had a sandbox for Kaylee when she was little.
17:51Yeah, whatever.
17:53Joe's got a lot of great ideas, but as far as clearing out and making room,
17:58I know in reality that it's not going to stay that way.
18:02This table's heavy.
18:03I know.
18:03And I'm not moving it in and out because this is where the fan is.
18:07But just move it over a little bit in the center so he can go around it.
18:12We can move the chairs aside and I can bring them back.
18:18All right, whatever.
18:19John might be trying to sabotage the teaching, but I'm not going to allow it.
18:24If he wants to make the comments he makes, he can do it.
18:27It's only making him look like a fool.
18:30What's the big deal?
18:30You're like, whatever.
18:31Like, you can't be bothered to see where mum's coming from.
18:35We're trying to make something safe here.
18:37Try to move the table.
18:40Why would you not want anything to do with creating more space
18:45for your younger children to play in that's safe
18:49whilst your wife is at home raising your children?
18:52If I can at least have it to where I'm not constantly running outside
18:58checking on the kids.
18:59Thomas can come out here while I'm getting stuff done.
19:02You know what? Here.
19:03For this week, for this coming week, let's move it. Come on.
19:09You know it's going to go back.
19:10Just move it a little bit.
19:12There.
19:13John not participating and not getting the fact
19:16that I need certain things done is completely frustrating.
19:19I have someone there that's going to help me get myself under control
19:23so I can get my children under control.
19:25And if he can't see that, that's his own problem.
19:28That's it.
19:29Atta boy.
19:31That's what I'm talking about.
19:32You see what I'm saying?
19:33It was so clear that Dad was just going to push, push, push all the time
19:40and resist anything I put into place here with the family.
19:43And I just wasn't going to let it deter what I needed to do.
19:46It was important that Shannon learned the steps for the timeout.
19:50So that's what we did.
19:52OK.
19:53No, Autumn, no.
19:56No hitting.
20:00I wanted to show Mum the first step of my discipline technique.
20:04I'm down to each level and we've found the boys.
20:07No hitting, because that was no hitting, Thomas.
20:12No hitting.
20:13And no cuddles or something.
20:14Put the flag on the floor.
20:17I've been around Thomas since he was born
20:19and I haven't seen him scream like that, not once.
20:24This boy was fine all afternoon.
20:26OK, so.
20:27Now all of a sudden he's screaming and crying.
20:29John took the flag from him.
20:31So what happened was.
20:32Let him have the flag.
20:33Why did John take it?
20:35That aggravated me to no end.
20:37And I went and grabbed him, because enough's enough.
20:40It's ridiculous.
20:41No, it's not ridiculous.
20:42It is ridiculous.
20:43Can you give me a minute, please, so that I can talk to you about this?
20:45Dad says that he's doing this because it's what Thomas needs.
20:49And actually, I think Dad's doing this because it's what he needs.
20:53Can you just put Thomas down for a moment so that I can have a talk with you?
20:58He's frustrated.
21:00He's angry.
21:01He knows that what I'm about to do is to create change.
21:06And he's fighting the change.
21:07This isn't about me.
21:08Well then, if this isn't about you, can you please respect what I have to say?
21:12It's not about me.
21:12I respect what you're saying.
21:13OK, well then, well, let me finish talking.
21:15But I mean, I'm just saying this boy, I had no problem with this boy the whole time I was with him.
21:19And all of a sudden, we're forcing issues on the kidney.
21:23No, we're not, John.
21:25If you would just give me the respect to let me finish, I'll tell you exactly what went on.
21:29He's been very against what I'm trying to teach Shannon right now.
21:33I find it incredible that somebody would be so rude when, you know, they've asked for my help.
21:40To me, it doesn't add up.
21:42Now, you're either a husband that's in for supporting Shannon learning this, or you're not.
21:49I'm not much for the modern parenting, per se.
21:54When I grew up, I didn't have timeouts.
21:56And I learned to listen to my mum and dad.
21:58I'm here to help your family.
22:02OK.
22:03Have some patience with me.
22:05All right.
22:05Dad says he's going to cooperate. When?
22:17The next day, I do want to try and teach mum and dad a new discipline technique.
22:23I need dad on board and time is running out.
22:27If the children don't listen to what you're asking them to do,
22:31I want you to bring them over to the timeout bench.
22:35Timeouts in my house don't exist. I've never tried them.
22:40It wasn't long before mum got to try out the technique.
22:43The kids were playing in the backyard and Thomas bit Carly.
22:50Which gave mum an opportunity to step up.
22:53She explained why he was on that bench and she walked away.
23:10This is him protesting.
23:13Look him up, put him back.
23:14No.
23:15He got off it.
23:17She placed him back time and time again.
23:20Mum was doing really good at the discipline, but then dad walked in and I wanted to nip
23:35the possibility of him sabotaging this by getting him involved.
23:40Watch, watch, watch. I want daddy. I want daddy. You want daddy?
23:43Place him straight back, John. Don't talk to him. Just place him straight back and time out.
23:47To support mum with what she's doing.
23:50OK, Shannon, if he gets off, I'd like you to take over now.
23:56It was just to prove a point here, OK? Shannon, there you go.
24:00OK, nice work, John. Nice work.
24:01When dad sent Thomas back to the naughty bench, it certainly has given him a strong reminder
24:07that mum and dad are on the same page now.
24:10I'll see how Shannon does with it. If she has success with it, maybe I'll think about it.
24:14I'm still not a time out guy.
24:18Thomas put up a good fight, to say the least. I mean, we knew that was kind of going to happen.
24:22But mum stayed focused and after a couple of minutes, he stayed on that bench. It was good.
24:27The lesson that I learned from the first time out is the kids aren't ruling me.
24:31And I can outlast them.
24:34Perfect. Perfect, mum.
24:37Mum is certainly feeling more competent to follow through with discipline now.
24:41Calm down, mummy, and we'll pick you up.
24:43John's probably still not a time out guy, but that doesn't weigh heavy on me.
24:49I need control and I'm going to get control whether he wants to do time outs or not.
24:53I'm there to be a mother to my children. And if Mr. Griligowski wants to come aboard, he can.
25:00What's up to him?
25:02You are doing what is right.
25:05And that's all that matters.
25:07You did very well.
25:12Dad's really warming to the process, which is a good thing, but I now need to make sure that he follows
25:16through and I also want him to spend more time with the kids.
25:20So I thought for each kid, you could write like a promise letter to them saying that you're going
25:27to do one particular thing with them. It can be anything and it may be something that just lasts
25:3215 minutes or 30 minutes. Yeah.
25:34I tend to stay longer after work and get caught up, so I don't get a lot of home time with the kids.
25:40Let's, for example, start with John John. We can go to the golf course with John John.
25:45Dad was a little bit sceptical about writing letters and doing this technique,
25:49but as he started to write, he got more involved.
25:52Choice, give her two things, because she may say something that you feel that you can't actually
25:56fulfil. When Dad had finished writing his letters and put his seal of approval on them,
26:01he then went and posted the letters. So it's going to be quite exciting tomorrow.
26:13They started to open up their mail and John was very, very pleased to say the least.
26:19It says, I promise to take you to the golf course.
26:31Love, Daddy.
26:34What's she'll say?
26:35Dear Kaley, I promise to spend one-on-one time with you. Your choice.
26:41One, go to the mall and two, bike ride. Love, Dad.
26:45It says, Dear Carly, Daddy's going to take you to Chuck E. Cheese, as promised.
26:50You and Thomas, right? That's it. No big kids.
26:55Ready?
26:57And later on that day, Dad stuck to his promises.
27:01Cool.
27:03Should be smooth and even.
27:07There you go.
27:07Loving with Daddy was fun.
27:11We're working it.
27:13The bike ride, it was just me and my dad playing and no littler kids.
27:20And we had fun because we were just talking to each other.
27:23I just hope that he continues on his journey that he needs to with his children.
27:28So, I'm off for several days.
27:38This family certainly have work to do together. A lot of follow through.
27:43So, Dad, a nice friendly reminder about that balance between the work and the home and spending time at home.
27:51So, Dad's either going to show his family that he is just as willing to make change for the better.
27:59I believe he'll be left behind.
28:01Okay, kids.
28:02See you when I return.
28:04When Joe is away, maybe I will be looking over my shoulder for that guidance that she has shown.
28:12Say bye, JoJo.
28:13Have some fun. Take care. Bye-bye.
28:15Hey, Joe.
28:15You're welcome. Bye-bye.
28:16I think the changes so far, I mean, are they going to work?
28:21I don't know yet.
28:22I'm going to have to wait and see.
28:31After three days away, I was dying to know, did John keep his promises to the kids?
28:39And was he more supportive as a husband to Sharon?
28:42Right, who's ready to take a look at what I've got here?
28:47We're both ready.
28:49You're ready? You're not ready?
28:51Huh?
28:52Okay. All right, John.
28:54The first thing, promise letters.
28:57John, this is all about the promise letters that you wrote.
29:01All right, good boy.
29:05All right, you guys ready?
29:07Let's go.
29:12You got a slinky, a nice pink slinky.
29:15Nice. What else?
29:16Oh my gosh, a lizard.
29:17Yeah.
29:18Oh, look how beautiful.
29:20That's me, Dad.
29:21Daddy, that's Thomas.
29:22You took that there.
29:24Look how sweet.
29:26Loving it.
29:27You followed through on those promise letters.
29:31That's a priority.
29:33It was the beginning of taking that time and showing the kids that you were going to deliver
29:38on your promise to do things with them that you acknowledged they wanted to do.
29:43Nice, John.
29:45Really nice to see.
29:49Amen.
29:49What is our Lord that these are gifts which we are about to receive?
29:54Hello.
29:56Nice.
29:58You all done? You want out?
29:59No.
30:00Oh, this is a white face.
30:07Baby, you need to put the basketball down, please.
30:10John, John.
30:11John.
30:12Yes?
30:14Did Mum ask you to stop that?
30:17This is what I like about what I've just seen there.
30:19It wasn't, John, I'm telling you to stop bouncing the ball.
30:24It was pure support, 100%.
30:27Did you listen to what your mother said?
30:29Well, it's just backed up everything that Shannon was saying and made it very,
30:35very clear for Johnny.
30:36That was good, John.
30:38OK, Mum and Johnny.
30:41This is your warning, John.
30:45There'll be no more basketball.
30:48There will be no basketball.
30:50I want to go through this in detail with you.
30:59When you gave him a warning, you're already fighting with him.
31:02Right.
31:03OK.
31:03You told him no more telly and you actually grabbed the remote control as you said,
31:08no more telly.
31:09And that was meant to be your conversational voice in just, you know, asking him to turn the television off.
31:15And when he didn't, then give him a warning.
31:19But the warning you gave him did not allow time for him to turn that television off.
31:24Because you did not walk away and you were holding on to that remote.
31:28So you backed him into a corner over the remote control.
31:32I mean, that in itself is going to create confrontation.
31:35You can sit on your bed and you can chill and you can think about what you've done.
31:42I don't need to chill.
31:44You don't need to chill?
31:51You're going to chill, John.
31:52You're not going to destroy my house, Johnny.
32:00I don't need to chill.
32:02You do need to chill because you're going to learn respect.
32:05You're going to listen to me.
32:06I'm the boss, John.
32:08A very common thing that I see with parents is when for so long they've really felt helpless and
32:14they've not felt like they've had the control.
32:16And then almost within a couple of days, they take ownership of that authority.
32:22It's liberating and they feel such strength.
32:25And then they go over the other way.
32:27I believe that you weren't quite sure if you were doing the right thing because you said one sentence.
32:33I'm the boss.
32:36It was like you were trying to convince yourself.
32:37I'm the boss.
32:38Right.
32:40I think you doubted really what was going on there.
32:44I think I did too.
32:45I know you did because of the way you were responding.
32:49This is Johnny testing your authority.
32:54But because you doubted it in the first place, this got created.
32:57This actual whole thing could have been unnecessary.
33:03All right.
33:03So I've seen some good footage here.
33:07I have seen a big, big change from last week.
33:11The support from yourself, John, speaks a thousand words to the kids.
33:16And that I am very pleased to see.
33:18I believe there's more work to do with regards to that to keep it going as strong as ever between the pair of you.
33:26Any questions?
33:28All right.
33:29Well, I'm good.
33:30All right.
33:30And we get cracking and do some more stuff.
33:33It's my last day with the Kralikowskis, and I can see from the DVD footage that Mum is still suffering with timeouts.
33:45I don't need a chill.
33:47You do need a chill because you're going to learn respect.
33:49I know.
33:50You're going to listen to me.
33:51I'm the boss, John.
33:53So the first thing I'm going to do is to give Mum a very good, strong visual to remind her of what the steps are to the timeout.
34:00And I've got some steps, you know the naughty bench that we do, and I've actually got that written out for you.
34:06So I thought, let's just go over that so you can see it, and then you can keep it so that you can remember it as you're doing it.
34:13You can look up and actually see it.
34:15The written out steps to the timeout is great, and being up by the naughty bench is perfect because what am I supposed to be doing next?
34:23Am I supposed to be talking?
34:25Am I not supposed to be talking?
34:26It's all right there.
34:27This walk away is key for you because once you walk away, if you place them back, you don't talk.
34:32Having the timeout poster on the wall not only is going to be a good visual reminder for Mum,
34:39but it's going to stop her from panicking when the kids do kick off and she can't remember the first steps.
34:44I have one last thing to do with Dad. It is very important.
34:56It's going to remind him of his commitment to his family and how accountable he is.
35:02In this time capsule I will give him, he will fill in the documents so that he remembers the promises that he made to his family.
35:11This is a short-term, goal-oriented look at where you will be with your family in three months.
35:19We're going to put it back in here and actually give that to Shannon and in three months' time open that up.
35:25She'll see that you've kept your word to continue to strive forward with your family.
35:33Spending more family time together, having more time together as husband and wife.
35:37You better control the kids when they misbehave.
35:40I wrote them down and put them in the little capsule, marked it three months from now and sealed it up for us to open together.
35:49What will you be taking home from this experience when I leave John?
35:54I'm pretty stubborn.
35:58Fair enough.
35:58Kind of set my ways and I'm not so willing to change, but where there's a will, there's a way.
36:05Yeah.
36:06Joe grew on me.
36:08When we started out, I didn't think I really needed anything, but I was able to dig deep and do a little soul
36:16search in myself and find that there's areas that I'm lacking in.
36:20And then it was time for John to present the capsule to Shannon.
36:23We got a capsule to open in three months' time, where we're going to be in three months.
36:29Okay.
36:29The time capsule is a great reminder to John of what he needs to do for his family.
36:37Okay.
36:37Sounds good.
36:38All right.
36:39The time capsule was a promise to myself, where I want to be for my family.
36:44I plan on keeping that promise.
36:46All right, guys, time for me to leave.
36:49My mom has changed because she's now finally doing timeouts and we're listening to her.
36:57John, John, let me give you a hug, please.
36:59My dad knows that he needs to do more stuff with me.
37:03That feels good.
37:05Bye, Shannon.
37:06Bye-bye.
37:07Shannon has certainly stepped up big time and is feeling much more confident and liberated as a parent.
37:15It's Joe's had a positive impact on everybody in my family, even John.
37:29Hey.
37:32Yeah.
37:34We're listening to my dad.
37:34Hey.
37:35Hey.
37:36You