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On Thursday's edition of Felger and Mazz, the guys questioned what type of offense the Patriots will be running this season. Mazz specifically made the point that if the Patriots are transitioning back to the, 'Tom Brady offense', then it may raise concern for Drake Maye's play this season.
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00:00Thought, you know, so the players are coming off the field, Zoe and Beatle are down there for training camp, and they get the interviews, and I was just getting in my car, and I was like, I didn't notice who it was initially, but when I realized, I was like, oh, he's talkative, he's bright, it's good, I'm like, this is Kendrick Bourne, and it was, it was Kendrick Bourne, and then Beatle was asking, like, hey, a bit of a logjam in the room, right, like, you feel confident considering your rapport in the past with Josh McDaniels, and that's when, to me, the interview really started getting interesting,
00:25because it's clear that, yeah, there's a logjam in that room, and there's some young players there, and guys that are certainly on the bubble, maybe like Javon Baker, and I like Kendrick Bourne, but I think he's regressed, or certainly hasn't been the same guy post-injury, but I feel like he's a lock for this team, because he already knows Josh's system, like, and maybe we'll play some of the clips, or you can go back and find it on the app, listen to the interview on Zoe and Beatle, and on the 98.5 Sports Hub app, but I thought it was very telling, like, Kendrick and Josh McDaniels are thick as thieves, and, okay, while it's great,
00:55I want guys that know his system, but if he's not the same player, and he's lost a step, is that really the right way to go about it, especially if someone like this Efton Chisholm, who might be a bubble guy, might not end up making the team, but Kendrick Bourne does, just because, well, he knows the boss, and the boss likes him, and it's his system, and, well, we're good, we don't really need to see how you're running, if you maybe lost a little step, or you're not as fast as you used to be, or maybe you still, you know, maybe your hands have turned to stone, doesn't matter, you know my system, so you're a lock for the team.
01:25I listened to this today, and I was a little bit, just a little, wee, unnerved, and it's like, oh, he's already made the team, Kendrick Bourne doesn't have to worry about anything, he knows Josh McDaniels' system, he's good to go, and I just don't know, considering this team, if that's the right thing.
01:40Like, I want guys that have talent, and I don't want someone that might not end up making the team, just because they're like a bubble guy, just because they're not friends with the boss, you know what I'm saying?
01:49Okay, Maz, do you have an open thought?
01:50Well, yeah, so this relates to the same interview, and let me just preface this by saying, I admit that I'm behind, I'm behind the curve on this, okay, I am slow to adapt to this particular thing, which is the offense that they're running.
02:02I wanted to believe, and still want to believe, that they are going to incorporate some new age things into their offense, and yet Kendrick Bourne sat there today with Zolak and Bertrand, and it says, oh no, this is the same system we ran when Josh McDaniels was here last time.
02:21And that bothered the hell out of me, and again, I admit, because you've said this, they're running the same offense.
02:29Yeah, it feels that way.
02:30And I thought, okay, I want to see what it looks like on the field, because they said they changed some of the terminology, they're going to incorporate some other things, and it doesn't sound like they are.
02:41And so, if they are asking Drake May to run the offense that Tom Brady ran, I just think that's a horrible fit.
02:51Horrible.
02:52I think they're completely different players, and first of all, nobody compares to Tom Brady.
02:57Nobody ever.
02:59So, I want to, this now gives me some trepidation about how the whole adjustment or evolution is going to go with Drake May even further.
03:08I just think it was, they couldn't make it work with guys who came in who were veterans when Brady was here, and Brady, frankly, might be the only quarterback that really was able to make it work.
03:20For any sort of extended period of time.
03:23That's it.
03:24Nobody other than Tom Brady ever really did it.
03:26So, this is something that now I feel like I have to watch for that I was hoping I didn't have to watch for.
03:31Big time.
03:32Absolutely.
03:33And it's a tough offense to pick up.
03:35Holy crap.
03:36Like, when I heard Bourne say it, has definitively said it, I said, well, really?
03:42Like, there isn't any tweak at all?
03:44Here, Jimmy, are you able to play that first Bourne cut just to illustrate what Maz is talking about?
03:49Well, I mean, I was, I was shaking.
03:55My last one for you real quick.
03:57Is it the same protection, same formation, same play call that Josh?
04:01Yeah.
04:02Same system.
04:03So, it's pretty young guys learning.
04:05And then guys that are experienced with it, you know, it's just the same.
04:08But just for us guys that have experience helping the young guys, you know, if we all can get on the same page, have the same communication, the same language, we're going to have a good year.
04:15I mean, so now, like, so now Kendrick Bourne is way ahead of everybody else on the receiving court?
04:22Yeah, kind of scary.
04:23Like, no, but I heard that, and that's because this sort of spins off what you were saying, Murray.
04:27Like, wait a minute, I wasn't even sure he was going to make the team.
04:30That's how I felt, too.
04:31And now, again, after hearing that today, and I like Bourne, but again, this Efton Chisholm, who was popping at the OTAs, maybe he ends up being a bubble guy.
04:37And they're like, well, we like how we look, but he might not be picking up the system that well, so we're just going to go with Kendrick instead.
04:42Like, no matter what, to me, after hearing this, I'm like, this dude's already made the team.
04:45He doesn't even really have to show up for these practices.
04:47Oh, it, like, I hope that this is just, like, early step one and that Bourne is wrong.
04:55But, man, if that's the case, I, I, now I'm worried.
04:58Well, to your point, yeah, yeah, like, wouldn't you have expected Josh McDaniels, after everything he's been through,
05:02and now coming in here with a rookie, like, a second-year quarterback, first time working with him, a lot of new players?
05:07Dumb it down, dude.
05:07Like, didn't you learn to maybe dumb down your system a bit?
05:09Exactly.
05:11Exactly.
05:11Make it simple.
05:13So they're going to try to teach him what Tom Brady knew?
05:17And I understand it's year two for May, but year one in this offense.
05:22Big mistake.
05:23Murray thinks the guy's a dope.
05:25Don't put words in my mouth.
05:27Oh, stop it, Murray.
05:28You know you feel that way.
05:30I don't.
05:30I said the jury's out.
05:32The jury's out on whether he's a dope or not.
05:33That's all.
05:34So he could potentially be a dope.
05:35Yes.
05:36Yes.
05:37Which kind of ties into my opening take, which is we are very – let me back up.
05:42I know you, as Patriots fans, some of y'all, and certainly some of y'all media watchers
05:50and people who are dubious of the traditional media, don't like lazy narratives.
05:57You sort of like –
05:58That's a lazy narrative.
05:59You like to call out lazy narratives, which to me, really, just in my experience doing
06:07this 35 years, really just translates to you not liking negative commentary about your
06:13team because I've never heard you call positive commentary lazy.
06:18It's always negative commentary that gets labeled lazy narratives.
06:22The positive commentary never gets labeled lazy narratives.
06:25But if you are concerned about lazy narratives, just on the face of it, lazy narratives, I
06:32think what's happened in the last day or two with Drake May and his leadership qualifies
06:36as a lazy narrative.
06:38I just feel the media, certainly, that cover the team and commentate on the team have just
06:43really been way too quick to just take that story of him organizing the throwing thing
06:51in North Carolina, and he did 95 – you know, Rabel comes out and says, he came to me with
06:57that a while ago.
06:59He organized 95% of it, travel, where they stay, all the arrangements.
07:06That just feels so convenient and, I don't know.
07:12Contrived.
07:13And I think it's kind of lazy just to take it and run with it as if, oh, yeah, that happened.
07:21And I think that's lazy.
07:23But not that anyone cares because it makes you feel good, right?
07:25I mean, so the Drake May becoming that leader, that guy in year two is something you should
07:32be hearing, you want to hear.
07:34So you hear it and you don't question it.
07:37And reporters today, this is not what we do.
07:40We don't try and find out what's really going on.
07:42And we just sort of mine things that make the fans feel good.
07:46And so they just – we just take this story from, like, Rabel and, oh, yeah, he arranged
07:51it.
07:5295% of it.
07:53He came to Rabel.
07:54It was his idea.
07:55Never mind the 95% thing was just – he has a little bit of a whiff of something.
08:00You know what I mean?
08:01Like, why are we parsing out the percentages?
08:03And I don't even know what it would be.
08:07But it's just a little convenient.
08:10It feels just a little lazy to me.
08:12That you're just going to take – because it's such an obvious thing.
08:16You want to hear it.
08:18And he was throwing with the guys in the offseason.
08:20So you all just take it.
08:21You don't want to bother questioning.
08:22Just run with it.
08:23And there he is, year two leadership.
08:25Yeah, look at the leadership.
08:26More vocal.
08:26And without ever really questioning where it came from, is that truly on the level?
08:33I mean, I would think if I had to guess that this is something that they're leading Drake
08:40May to, which isn't a bad thing.
08:43He's a young guy.
08:44Young for his draft class.
08:47Young for the league.
08:49Learning a lot of different things.
08:51And this is going to be one of them.
08:53About – they have to lead him to be a leader.
08:56Which doesn't make him a bad guy or a bad leader or any of that.
08:59It makes him young.
09:00And I feel like that's what's – if you ask me, they're sort of guiding him towards that.
09:07And he's taking it, and there's no reason for me to believe that's not who he is.
09:11Could very well be that guy.
09:13But just to – you know, it's just a little lazy.
09:15And I know you out there don't like lazy narratives.
09:18And it just feels a little lazy to me.
09:19Just a lock, stock, and barrel.
09:22I mean, I watch our network here, NBC Sports Boston Early Edition.
09:26I just – it's like they haven't just taken and run with it.
09:29They've already taken off the runway and are 20,000 feet in the air.
09:33Give me this little segment that I heard last night on Early Edition.
09:36You know, Drake's not just leading himself, but he's leading not just the offense, but the group.
09:41Like, the overall squad.
09:43And when he does things like that, what does that say?
09:45Not only about his maturity, but his intention to really turn this thing around this season.
09:49He's got a comprehensive idea of who he wants to be and how he wants to do it.
09:53I mean, we saw Brady do this up in Idaho or Montana, whatever the hell it was out there,
09:57that he would get guys together.
09:59We see it happen all throughout the NFL.
10:01And it's important because these guys, you know, in a couple years, he's going to be conceivably a $60 million-a-year quarterback.
10:08So if you say, wow, look at him working in early July.
10:10Okay, you're making $60 million a year.
10:13It's a good thing to do to make sure that you're in a position to have yourself, you know, ready to go at the beginning of the year.
10:20So to me, I don't think it's unbelievably remarkable, but the one thing about him that we mentioned a ton last year
10:30and we continue to look back at, he's pretty authentic.
10:35He does things without, hey, how is everybody going to react to this or wears it on his sleeve.
10:42I just think that he's a great fit.
10:44Okay.
10:45The comprehensive idea of who he is and what he wants to be.
10:48Is he 22?
10:49Yeah, how could he?
10:51Like, that's pretty good.
10:51I mean, that's pretty strong.
10:53That would make him pretty special.
10:55Yeah.
10:56I think if that's the case.
10:57I would expect as a 22-year-old second-year player coming to this situation from the ground up that he's finding who he is.
11:05Right.
11:05And finding his leadership and the team's helping him get there.
11:08And I think that that is what is happening.
11:10But I think everyone, because they're so desperate for him to be the guy and the team to be right, that they've just immediately gone past that step.
11:18No, they've knighted him.
11:19Of him developing and learning who he is and growing into who he is and gone right to, oh, it's just like Brady taking the guys to Montana.
11:29And he came to me with this idea a long time ago.
11:33And in 95% of the travel and the arrangements, we all just take it.
11:37And I just find that a little lazy.
11:38And I know, listen, I know you people don't like lazy narratives.
11:42So I'm with you.
11:45I agree with you.
11:45I don't like lazy narratives either.
11:47I think the Drake May leadership thing gone from zero to lazy pretty quick.
11:53And we have a show to do today.
11:55And I like the look of him, too.
11:58But I think there's some leaps being taken here.
12:00The 95% thing, really.
12:02And it was kind of a red flag.
12:05Oh, my gosh.
12:05Big time.
12:06Why are we parsing out?
12:07Because you know why?
12:08Because it's not true.
12:10And so they have to leave themselves some wriggle room.
12:12I mean, Drake May may have handled 5% of it.
12:14And Josh McDaniels and the team may have handled 95% of it.
12:17But when you start going percentages, yeah, there's a lot of, yeah, it was mostly him, but some us.
12:23Well, okay.
12:24Maybe that's closer to 70, 30.
12:27Well, okay, 64.
12:28You know, you get to play around with that a little bit.
12:29Yeah, and my question is, that 5%, did that include coming up with the actual idea?
12:35Because that's what I think.
12:36I think that once, I think they told them, this is what you're going to do.
12:40And you're going to make the calls.
12:42You're going to set up.
12:43You know, we'll get someone to help you, but you're going to lead it.
12:46But the idea did not come from him.
12:48I think it came from McDaniels.
12:50So this, you know, he bolted last year without speaking for himself or the team.
12:56They had to trade the backup quarterback because they had to clear the runway because Drake
13:02didn't like something about Joe Milton, the way he carried himself for being in there.
13:07You know, who knows exactly, but something along those lines.
13:09So there's, you know, there's other sides of this story just to jump right to the, to
13:15the end of, no, he's, he's here.
13:16He's arrived, arrived as the leader.
13:19So again, I just in the interest of, I know you folks don't like lazy narratives.
13:22So I'm, I'm, I'm just helping you out there.
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