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Stephany Faublas opens up about single motherhood, her new endeavor providing financial freedom for women, and hiring a nanny as self-care.
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00:00Hey everybody, I'm Victoria Umarogi, the Senior Lifestyle Editor of Essence, and welcome to
00:04Mamas at Work. We are here with the fabulous Stephanie Fablas. She is a content creator,
00:09also an educator, and you know, a mother. Just a little, just a little bit, just a little tea,
00:15you know. I'm sure you've seen her, know you've seen her, her darling daughter Cadence as well,
00:19and we're here to chat all things motherhood, her big move, her great foundation that she's
00:24starting, and more. So let's hop right into it. Thank you so much for being here, Stephanie.
00:28Thanks for having me. We're locked in. We're locked in. Yeah, we're gonna go get, you know,
00:33drinks later. If you see us out and about, leave us alone. We're connecting. We're pretty much
00:37best friends. First and foremost, you know, welcome, welcome. Thank you. I know you recently
00:44packed up. You left, you know, good old North Carolina. Made the big haul. Yes, and came up
00:50here to New York City. And you brought your daughter Cadence up for us. Yes, the Brooklyn
00:55girl has returned. Not me. She will remind you quickly. I'm not the Brooklyn girl. She
00:59is. So she's, she's born here. Not me. Gotcha. Gotcha. So how are you feeling about being
01:05back? And more importantly, what was the inspiration to come back to New York from your time living
01:11in Charlotte? Yeah. So yeah, I feel like a lot of people think this is our first time here.
01:16So thank you for saying come back where we are. Yes, it's the big comeback. I feel wonderful
01:20about it just because this time it's on, you know, very different circumstances. The inspo
01:25was really work. You know, we are blessed to have this new platform and all this new work
01:32and things. We were coming up here, mostly me, but Cadence do, you know, in tow. We were
01:37coming up here almost once to two times a week, especially like the end of last year, starting
01:42the end of last year. And I was getting a little pricey. And I'm like, you know what? Just so we
01:46could be available for whatever opportunities and for me to grow my platform. I think this
01:52would just be the better place for us to come back to. And yeah, like this time, like I said,
01:57it was just different circumstances. I feel both feet on the ground. It's at my direction. It's at
02:02my needs and my wants. And it just felt like everything was aligning to be here at this exact
02:07time. So it feels great. Love a good alignment. I love that. Yes. And so how is Cadence adjusting?
02:13You know, I feel like you both have this mother daughter kind of relationship where it's like
02:17whatever you want to do, she's down. Like y'all are like this. And I love that. Thank you. Yeah,
02:22no, it's so it's the other way around. I have to be down with what she's doing. I say that but
02:29we're really we're learning to, you know, coexist in that way for sure. She loves it. She I mean,
02:35the minute we touched down, she was ready to just be out explore get on the train. She loves the
02:40subway. She want to get her Tim's ready. Come on. Tim's is crazy. It's nasty work. Sorry.
02:46No, but she's no, she's been she's been really, really, really excited. Um, she's we're I'm
02:49trying to keep her like heavy activity focused right now. So we're not like just home. I
02:54redecorated quick. I bought like I got everything brand new. Knock on wood, please. I brought
02:59everything brand new. Everything's fine right now. So I just didn't want to focus too much on
03:02like staying, you know, inside. Um, mine is this heat wave that's that's hit us recently.
03:07100 something y'all. No, at 11pm at night, it was still 100 degrees. No, thank you. But
03:13I say that to say, we are I think we're taking New York differently this time. Like before I
03:18I lived in a different part of Brooklyn. And I felt like I just like a mosquito. Do you
03:24know mosquitoes don't leave like from a 20 mile radius from where they were born? That
03:27was me. I just thought I was circling that area. I didn't really I just went to went went
03:31to work went to whatever I needed to back home. So I didn't really explore like I don't
03:35know Harlem. I don't know the Bronx. I don't know. Like if you say like upper east, I'm
03:39like, what? Right. Yeah. But this time though, we've been like, we're on the train. We're
03:45on a ferry. We're getting lost. We're doing a thing like we're gonna really become New
03:48Yorkers this time. Yeah, that you have an adventure together. And you guys have so many fabulous
03:53adventures together. That's a road dog. No, that's my besties locked in. I mean, I hope
03:58she chooses this when we're older, you know, but not me. I stay. I'll be young forever.
04:03But you know, I hope she really chooses to hang out with me for as long as possible.
04:07Like that's my goal. Like I know I've made it as a mom. Like I really did a good job
04:10if when she's like a teenager. I mean, realistically, she's gonna slam a door. I will take it. But
04:15she will slam a door. But yeah, I just hope we stay friends. Really. I'm sure you will.
04:20I'm sure you will. And speaking of cadence, you know, so many people have embraced her as
04:23their internet niece. What has it been like watching her come into her personality like this
04:27and seeing the both of you become like the mother daughter duo online?
04:32We are both still getting used to it. Just because I think we regard ourselves as very
04:36normal. Like we're just we're just chilling. You know, I just so happen to have thankfully
04:42like touch the hearts of so many other moms and daughters and you know, too soon to be
04:48moms. But we when we're out and people approach me, especially like the other day, someone was
04:54like Stephanie. And I turned we were on the sidewalk random. I turned around. They were
04:58like, I know that Bob anywhere. The Bob now I can't grow my hair back out like they're
05:03recognizing, you know, just certain characteristics about us without even knowing that's us first.
05:08So that's all that's that's I think that's gonna take a while to get used to because again,
05:12like we're just normal people. It's just me. It's Stephanie. It's cadence. I think for cadence,
05:17you know, she she hasn't shown any signs of being overwhelmed by it. I think we're also just really
05:23blessed that people who are in the community with us are, like I said, either mothers soon to be
05:29mothers, aunts themselves or whatever. So they've all respected boundaries. And no one's like, you
05:33know, jumped on her or like made her, you know, do anything she didn't want to or anything like
05:37that. And they do ask her every time before they even come closer interact. And I think that's
05:41always been yeah, like knock on wood, we have not experienced anything that didn't feel like actual
05:46family who understands. So yeah, it's been great. It's been great. We're just getting used to like
05:51people thinking we're something more than we, you know, we don't put ourselves on that platform.
05:55Got you. Got you. And obviously, the obvious next question would be, do you ever have concerns
05:59about like sharing her with the internet in that way? Like she's got such a big personality. She's so
06:05fine. But you know, the internet is a crazy place. There's a lot of crazy folk out there.
06:09But yeah, and so how do you as a parent balance like what you want to share? And
06:16and what you do share with what you're like, let me not let me be protective of that. How do you go
06:21about that? So I think I leave because I lead in sharing my story. She just so happenstance
06:26comes into play. I had my platform for a while before I decided to, you know, to have cadence.
06:32And I don't even think I made a conscious decision to include her. I think she just
06:35popped up like she was like, hey, you know, she's I'm here. Or we I think we might have done like a
06:40dance or something together. I don't even remember what her entry point was. But
06:43I make you kids. Thank you. You're welcome. You know, but so she she remained, but she's not,
06:50I wouldn't say she is the focal point of what I'm sharing. I'm sharing my, my journey as a mom,
06:58my journey as you know, becoming a single mother, and what what reshaping life looks like for me.
07:04And obviously, I'm a mom. So she, you know, appears in some of my things. But she's not the
07:09focal point. And so I'm not worried about overstepping her boundaries. But what I do
07:16pay attention to is maybe like, I won't share certain spaces of hers. You know, this is private.
07:22This is her room. This is her, you know, this is what she what she does when she's here, you know,
07:26small details of her day to day. Those maybe I don't, you know, I won't share. I'm careful not
07:30to share those. But otherwise, I think I'm good with that. Because this, this, this is my story.
07:37She just didn't happen to be a part of it. Okay, it's really about me. So all it's been about me.
07:42Something you said on your podcast, which we'll get into a little bit was that you've been, you know,
07:46through your content, sharing what it's like to, as you said, be a single mother and specifically
07:50raise yourself while simultaneously, like, raising a child. Can you elaborate on what that means? I
07:55thought it was pretty brilliant. Thank you. So I mean, for me with that, these essentially,
08:00what that means is that her health, her wellness comes after mine. I think that once you realize
08:07that as a mom, and especially as a mom who I've been struggling since I was pregnant with her,
08:13like literally, since I learned I was pregnant with her, I had so many layers of things I had to
08:17deal with, whether it's my own healing, getting away from someone that I needed to then heal from
08:22still healing from, I had to prioritize my health, my well being, my wants and needs and understand
08:28that that is not selfish, because literally my health determines and dictates her health,
08:33whether that be physical or emotional. And so yeah, I'm raising myself while I'm also raising her
08:39because there's a lot of unlearning. There's a lot of relearning. There's a lot of okay, we can,
08:44it's okay to take parts of how you were raised and blend it with the new way that we are learning
08:51now that we have a lot more education about, you know, how these things affected us,
08:55how these things will affect our children. So, you know, I didn't mention it yet,
09:00but the name of the podcast, After Birth, I think that's exactly what it is. There are,
09:04it doesn't stop after that birth. And even if you have not given birth, birth is a requirement for
09:09that next step in our lives. We have to rebirth ourselves over and over. And we talked earlier,
09:15I'm going through one right now, because it's just a new, I have to see a new way of parenting yet
09:19again. And it's every week. Every, every week. I think, you know, these are the things that I want
09:24to be extremely honest about again, and sharing my story of like, Hey, it's, it looks cute. It looks
09:30cute, but it is the furthest from cute. When you shut that camera off, it is the furthest from cute
09:33to raise a child and to raise them properly. Like in, you know, in, in the way that you want to be
09:39proud of them and you want them to be a functioning member of society. It is not easy work whatsoever.
09:44So that birth is over and over again, if you want that to happen properly. Yeah.
09:50I love that. I love that. And with that in mind, how did that realization of like,
09:55my needs are paramount in the effort to be the best parent that I can be. How did that inspire
10:00you to create the app? Well, it's just after birth, not the after birth.
10:03Yeah. It's after birth. I think, you know, that it's, it inspired me because I just have seen
10:10what sharing small glimpses were like from my TikTok and my Instagram page. And a lot of people
10:16were asking for more, like, can, can we dive a little deeper into this topic? Um, whether I was
10:21sharing about just mom guilt or if I was sharing about, you know, just any other small, you know,
10:26small things that mothers deal with that are, that aren't actually small at all. Right. You know,
10:30when we huge, you know, a little, a little, a little, you know, thread really unravels very,
10:36very quickly when you start to talk about it. And so I wanted a bit of a separate space to discuss
10:41these things. And I think, you know, where I'm coming from on the podcast is that motherhood
10:46needs to be felt. You know, it's not about reading a book. Yes, there are parenting books.
10:51You can get all the information and the facts that you want. Right. You're in the field.
10:55It is a complete different type of work and it can only be felt. And I can only relate to other
11:00moms if I know what you're really feeling. Like, tell me the truth about what is going on. I don't
11:05want to hear and or see, you know, rainbows and butterflies all the time because I'm not feeling
11:10that at home. So I cannot relate if yours is rainbows and butterflies. And I know it's not
11:15all rainbows and butterflies. So come at me when you're feeling real, you know? And so I just really
11:19want to create that space that, you know, I talk about and not like, not to make it seem like we
11:24only talk about the hard things of motherhood, but it's just the things that make up motherhood,
11:28you know, that are, that are more complex than what we're given time to talk about in society.
11:35And it's so real to show both sides because one of the best pieces of advice I got about
11:39motherhood, which came before I even had my child was like, every day is different. You have to know
11:44that and be okay with that because you might think you're like failing and flailing. And then the next
11:49day, you know, it's like, we had a day at the park, didn't we? Wasn't it fabulous? And then the next day
11:54it's back to struggle, you know? So it just goes back and forth. And so I think that is so important to
11:59share because yeah, we don't always want to just talk about, and we don't want to look, make parenthood look like,
12:04ooh, child, don't do it. Cause a lot of people without kids, I see them say like, and this is
12:09not like, why would I want a child again? Like, there's a lot of beauty in it, of course. But
12:12like, I think the rest of us, I'm not mad when they ask that though. Yeah. Ask yourself that again.
12:16And why would I want a child again? And when you can answer the question for yourself, then you're
12:20ready for motherhood. I think a lot of us listen, me include, especially me, you know, we were not
12:25ready in that sense. I think it's horrible advice. Also, let me double down. Let me double down.
12:30When people are like, you'll never be ready for mother. I think that's really misleading. I think
12:36there is a point you can get to, to know that you are, cause you know, this is a choice to live
12:43selflessly for the rest of your life when you have that child. So I think it is important to share
12:49that information and beat it down into non, you know, not mothers or people who are thinking about
12:54becoming mothers or parents. Yeah. You should be asking yourself, well, why would I want to be a
12:58mom if it's this and this and this? Yeah. Why would you, why would you? And when you can answer that
13:03for yourself and have that kid. Right. Yeah. And we'll see you in the delivery room. Yes. I'll be,
13:08I'll be right there. Me specifically for sure. Okay. Come on. I am a mother of two and I have my husband
13:15and I'm exhausted like two, like my bones. Um, how in the world are you doing it and making it look so
13:22fabulous. I know. Am I doing it? And you're pulling away the iPads and all kinds of things
13:27like that. So can you talk to me about how you make it happening? Like even like the travel that
13:31you guys do together, things of that nature. Like how do you do it as a single mom? Cause I mean,
13:36I have so much, you know, just respect for, for single mothers because damn, I'm like in the house
13:42with people and I'm like, help me more. Okay. Uh, I think I have two parts to that. The first,
13:48the real, I have to, I have to, you know, I'm, I literally have no other choice. It's,
13:55it's single parenthood is do or die. Like who else is going to do this if I don't do it? Right. So
13:59that's the first part of it. The second part of it, and it's still my honesty. I do what I can.
14:05Thankfully, I have a child who is a bit more emotionally tapped in. She understands that it's
14:11just me and you. So she does step up and step in a lot in, in doing things for herself.
14:19Sometimes I have felt guilty about that because she absolutely might seem a bit too aware. I want
14:26her to be a child for as long as she can be, you know, you're only six, she's six, but sometimes
14:31people meet her and, and of course they, they mean it like in a great way. They're like, she's 36
14:35actually. I'm like, yeah, she is, but I would love for her to still be silly and still, you know,
14:41make mistakes and have it, you know, have the little bit of whimsy about her. But she, but you
14:46know, when you, when you do meet her, you are meeting someone who understands that like we're
14:49partners, uh, we're partners in this thing. And it's, you know, I'm really, really, really fortunate
14:54that she does understand that. But right now I'm working on making room for her to not be. And I was,
14:59you know, finally blessed, blessed, blessed enough to now to be able to hire help. So I do have a nanny.
15:04We're two weeks then. Come on, come on, help, you know, let's make it normal, normalize help.
15:09Normalize getting help. Absolutely. And so, um, you know, with, with having that, that type of help
15:15now, it's takes a lot off of my shoulders in terms of, you know, making sure the day's planned and my
15:21day's planned and her day's planned and doing all these things. So yeah, I think that's, that's been
15:25a major, major blessing right now and a major step in us. One, getting away from each other. Cause
15:30you know, I think a lot of people also be like, you guys are always together. How cute. How
15:34I'm like, if I didn't hear her voice for two days, I'd be good. But every, you know, but
15:42if this is really, really helping because now I haven't done the day with her. So I'm excited
15:47to hear about her day. She's excited to hear what, you know, what I've done today and we
15:50can actually talk at dinner rather than being like, you know, we're good. So yeah. Finding
15:57help has been crucial, monumental, monumental for the motherhood journey. Yeah. I love that.
16:03Why would you say it's important to state, you know, that honestly, parenthood can sometimes
16:08be a little trash. Um, not full blown trash, but very difficult. Medium, medium trash.
16:15On your podcast, you talked about the reality that you can like, you know, we love our children
16:20and still sometimes hate being a parent. Um, even Keira Gaines, the internet personality,
16:24who's a therapist and Cadence's uncle. We love him. Okay. Yeah. They love him. We love
16:28that entire family. Just Cadence's, uh, little cousins. Absolutely. Yes. He said the same
16:32thing. How can not being honest, as you mentioned a little bit earlier about these realities and
16:38that just feeling and it being okay to like, Ooh, some of this kind of sucks. Yeah. How can
16:43not being honest about that do a detriment to other mothers and fathers out there? Well,
16:47yeah, you don't prepare them for what the reality will be. And again, that reality is different
16:51every single day going into parenthood, woefully unprepared or, you know, without any type of
16:59expectations of the reality of things. I think you're immediately, I'm not even worried about
17:03hurting those parents. I'm worried about those children that they'll, they'll, you know, end up
17:07having, how will they form? How will they be, you know, able to stand up to adversity? How, what would
17:12they learn? Your parents are still flailing and learning and trying to, you know, figure it out
17:16themselves and whose responsibility will that child become that if your parent was not ready for it?
17:21So I feel like by sharing the truth, we are helping to not only prepare future parents, but we are
17:28helping to, um, uh, create a, you know, like a better place for that child than that next child
17:34to be born in so that they are supported so that they are actually brought up in a hopefully, you
17:39know, secure family, um, have proper attachments and whatnot. So yeah, it's, it's, it's, I think it's
17:45extremely dangerous. You know what it is right now? Like how we can see everybody wants children off
17:51their iPads, but there are no spaces for children to be off their iPads. We're not creating that
17:56community because no one is being honest about one, what it looks like when a child is off an iPad.
18:01When I travel with Cadence, she doesn't even think about electronics. So you know why? When we're out
18:07of this country, everyone is raising a child together. We're like our trip in Italy. I could have
18:12went, everyone else in that restaurant would have raised Cadence just fine. Better than me even
18:17because everyone is attuned to the community and to the children and they are their priority at all
18:22times to keep them safe and to keep them engaged and whatever's happening, they bring them into it,
18:27which is a different experience here. And I think it's, you know, we, we want children to act like
18:31children, but we don't let children be in the state of a child. Yeah. They can't cry on a plane. Yeah.
18:37They can't, you know, run around outside even like people are annoyed at kids running around in a
18:41park. Excuse me. You know what I mean? So, so I feel like if we don't continue to share the real
18:48of what children are like, this is what childhood is. This is what it sounds like. This is what it
18:52looks like. And it's not always rainbows and butterflies. Then we are continuing to create
18:57a world that pretends they want children here, but they're not ready for children here.
19:01That is a huge problem. Even my, my old neighbor would like give us hell about my children, like
19:05running in the house and like playing with each other after school for maybe like an hour before they
19:10went in the tub and went to bed. I can understand. I mean, if it was like my, one of my friends is
19:14dealing with this as well, like her neighbor, I mean, just moved in. It's like 6 PM and she's,
19:19she's mad that she can hear pitter patter upstairs. Get a home. I wish you would come in with that.
19:25I don't know what you want me to do. You're single and free. Like, I mean, cause yeah,
19:29let kids be kids. That's so real. And I think being honest also just helps alleviate the grief,
19:34not the grief, the guilt of like, yeah, of everything. Yeah. Of just feeling like,
19:40why do I feel this way? And is it bad to feel this way? And my child is being a child on a plane
19:46and like, am I failing because everybody's looking at me crazy? Like it's so.
19:49And you're absolutely not. Your kid is being a kid. And I feel like the more parents who speak
19:53up about the realities of parenting, what that means, even apart from the child, what that means
19:58for you, who you are now, how you operate, how you show up, how you can show up. Um, that feelings
20:03aren't always facts. I just, it helps another parent be seen. Like you are not failing. You're actually
20:08going through a milestone. Like I always used to rely on this app. I'm forgetting the name of it
20:12now, but like when cadence was extra crazy, sometimes I'd be like, what? No, something is
20:16going on, honey. It's me or you right now. And then I'd remember, Oh, she's going through a brain
20:21leap. And then you just learn a little bit more about what's going on. And then you can adjust
20:25yourself to, you know, this, this person is literally forming. They literally have no idea how
20:30to do anything. And it is up to you to do, you know what I mean? So when you understand that
20:34you're, you're better informed to then react differently to your child or to support them
20:39in a different way. Um, and so I think that's what we're doing. We're that we're the, you
20:43know, uh, the, the real version, the purse, the, we call it personified version of that
20:47app. We can help share how to bring things up.
20:50Got you. I love that. And how did, you know, you become empowered, you're a very empowered
20:57individual. And I know you're now working to empower other women as they embark on many a
21:03journey, including entrepreneurship. Can you speak about your, am I saying this
21:07right? F you fun? Yes. I'm like, could be food. It's even spicy and playful. No, it's
21:14definitely, it's definitely F you fun. It is a, and thank you for asking about that.
21:18That is something that's my new baby. It's my new baby. And, um, we are developing it
21:22very, very shortly to talk much more about it. So I think this is the first time I'll be
21:26talking about it in a public. You, you're welcome. You know, I'm breaking the exclusive
21:31here. It's called the F you fund. It is, um, my nonprofit, which I actually started
21:36with my financial advisor, Dania. Um, she's over in LA. We, that was a huge other thing
21:43I did for myself. I got a financial advisor. This time I said, I'm not going to F up the
21:47money. You know, we got to make it make money. We got to do what's going on. And I, I was
21:51not brought up to have a lot of financial literacy. Um, so I struggled with that who, who, you know,
21:57we're just trying to survive. Like I've gone through several years, several periods where
22:01it was check to check, really making it work, really just doing what I have to do, you know?
22:05And I felt less unfortunate to be there. At least the bills were paid, but it was that,
22:10that was that, that was it, you know? So this time I told myself I was going to get a financial
22:14advisor because I really wanted to understand my money habits, my money psychology, and how
22:20to make my money, make money for me. The reason though, why I was inspired to create the F you
22:27fund specifically was because, um, and it's a play on, you know, F you money, you know?
22:32And I, I want to say that was really like the housewives then. And you know, who, who wasn't
22:37working and you're at home and before the rights rights, you know? Um, and you, you always want to
22:44keep a little something tucked in case you got to get out of something in case you got to get away
22:47from him in case you got to, you know what I mean? Do your thing. And so that is exactly what the
22:51F you fund is. I want to be able to provide other women, other persons, but primarily women. That's
22:57what we're launching with, um, to be able to get out of whatever it is, to be able to get yourself
23:02a little financial security so that you can make your dreams come true so that you are not tethered
23:07to the thing that is holding you down. You can cut those ties. Um, and I know that that's what
23:12helped me. The second I was more financially secure, there were a lot of things people could no
23:17longer say to me. There were a lot of ways men can no longer treat me. And there were a lot of
23:22prisons that I was holding myself in that I was able to open the door. Like I don't need to stay
23:26here anymore. I made this bed, but I don't have to lay in it forever. And, um, yeah, so I definitely
23:31want to be able to provide that opportunity for as many women and young girls as possible.
23:36I love that. Thank you. And lastly, part of being empowered is being able to like pour into yourself.
23:41And I know that can be, that's difficult for everybody when you, when you have support,
23:45but in what ways when you have, it's like now you are part of like pouring into yourself is
23:50getting help. But what other ways that, you know, you practice self-care to be the best that you can
23:56be, not just as a mother, but for yourself? Um, we're getting there. I think we're getting there.
24:02Yeah, we are getting there. I think right now I am still, I'm still in transition. I'm doing the
24:09things slowly. Getting the nanny is a big, big, big one. I think I'm going to give myself permission
24:15to sit in that. Yeah. Like I, that was a huge, you know, like off the thing. And I think that's
24:20going to hold me over for a little bit. Um, speaking of the truth of things, right. I got a
24:25nanny. It looks great, but now I have a lot of time on my hands. Right. And now I'm noticing
24:28a lot of holes. I'm like, Oh, I have no organization. Yeah. I have no hobbies. I have
24:34no organizational skills. I'm sitting here and getting on cadence's back to make her bed.
24:38You should see my bed this morning. Like, it's just, there are things that I need to
24:42recoup for myself because I can see now that, Oh, like you do need to organize this. You
24:48do need to have this time. And I look like I'm together. I look like I'm for, but I'm
24:52not at all. And I have all this time now to see that. So the pouring into myself is going
24:57to actually not look like spa days and walk and whatever. It's going to look like getting
25:02my life together for real, like the real, real things, you know? So that's what it is
25:06coming. That's coming together.
25:08I love that because I love that people are pushing away from like, yeah, self-care is
25:12like, you know, getting in a bubble bath and you know, having a wine. Like a lot of people
25:16are really just like, it's just sometimes just being still. Sometimes just like, now that
25:21I have the space in the room to like look around at my life and my own situation myself, I'm
25:24like, let me get it. Let me get myself together.
25:27Absolutely. And it's, it's, yeah, it's space to do the hard things. I don't have to be frustrated
25:32because I'm trying to do the hard things, but yet my child needs me in that exact
25:35moment. Right. And you got to choose. Exactly. And I'm not, how many times are really going
25:39to choose the self-betterment? You can't, you know? So yeah, I feel, yeah, I bought myself
25:45space and time. I love that. Yeah. And lastly, lastly, what's next for you and your adorable
25:50daughter, Cadence? Now that y'all are taking New York city, like taking it over in Tim's.
25:57I'm like, I'm like, we can get matching ones. Oh, we can get pink ones.
26:01Sponsor shit. Come on, make it happen.
26:04Get some money.
26:05But yeah, I mean, what's next? Let me see. I think what's next for us, I feel like I'm
26:10just going to be working on a lot of our, you know, my platforms and I really am excited
26:14to continue to grow my podcast.
26:17Yes.
26:17After birth.
26:18Thank you. I'm really excited to grow that. I'm really excited to launch and grow the
26:22FU Fund as well. As for Cadence, I, she's, she might have the acting bug.
26:27Something. She's been really, she's been holding, she loves performance. I mean, she
26:32will hold anyone that comes over captive. Like you, you have to stay, you have to listen
26:36to her performing. She's singing, she's doing a little thing. So, you know, I'll let her
26:40explore that. I think she's at the perfect age where right now, whatever she's saying
26:44she wants to explore, I, you know, put it behind her. She's really into arts and crafts,
26:48really into the performance world. So we'll see where that goes. But other than that, I
26:52just really want to hone into my craft. I want to hone into her creativity and that's
26:57that.
26:57I love that. Pouring into both of y'all. I love to hear it. Well, thank you so much.
27:01Thank you. Thanks for having me.
27:02No, thank you for chatting with me. I love to have these conversations with mothers just
27:06to like pick your brain and learn, you know, we're more than just that, you know, more than
27:09that. Just that. Yeah. Happen to be kids. Well, have kids. Yes. That's it. We want to
27:13leave with that. Like, I feel like, you know, everyone's like, I need more. We were saying
27:16like, Oh, I need more mom friends. It's like, no, no, no. Let's reframe that. You need more
27:19friends who happen to be mothers. Okay. Cause you have to make sure you like each other. I
27:24don't want to be tethered to someone because of their kid. And now I'm like, Oh God, Victoria called
27:29again. We got to hang out like, Oh no, I don't want that. I want to have a play date. Hold
27:32up. Yeah. I want to like the person and force our kids to like. Thanks. Well, thank you
27:38so much. Thank you again. And thank you guys for watching Mamas at Work and keep following
27:42on essence.com. Thanks so much. Thank you.

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