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This edition of 'To The Point' delves into the contentious voter roll revision exercise in Bihar ahead of state elections, initiated by the Election Commission to eliminate bogus voters. This move has sparked a political storm, with the opposition labelling it 'votebandi' and the government calling it 'Operation Clean Up.'
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00:00Good evening, you're watching To The Point. I'm Preeti Chaudhary. Before we get to our two big debates this evening, allow me to take you through the headlines.
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02:52Three months before Bihar elections,
03:13The election commission of India
03:21embarks on a contentious role revision exercise.
03:32The aim to eliminate bogus voters.
03:35The process requires unprecedented furbishing of documents to prove citizenship.
03:52The reaction, voter apprehension and a massive political storm.
03:57Opposition calling it vote-bandi.
04:02Bihar government calling it Operation Cleanup.
04:06The case now with the top court of the country.
04:10While source-based leaks from the election commission make the rounds.
04:15As per sources, the process has already revealed illegals from Nepal, Bangladesh and Myanmar.
04:24Sources or sutra of the EC have now run foul of leader of opposition in Bihar, Tejas Viyadar,
04:32where he called sources or sutra this.
04:36The Bihar government now gunning for the RGD for insulting the election commission.
05:02While the controversy rages on, the larger question.
05:22What stops the EC from holding alleged press conference?
05:27Top focus on To The Point this evening.
05:29All right, joining me right now is Manoj Jha, RGD MP, Rajya Sabha.
05:34Appreciate you taking the time out and joining us, Mr. Jha.
05:37First up, in midst of all the arguments that are swirling around Mr. Jha,
05:41the government of Bihar and even the government of the day continues to build one argument.
05:48That is, does the RGD or the Gatbandan in Bihar want illegals to vote
05:54when it comes down to the special revision of roles that is taking place?
05:57Preeti ji, it's a very, I mean, your channel is very, very responsible.
06:03But tell me, we have three chief election, three election commissioners.
06:09One is in Delhi, Gyanesh ji.
06:13Then we have Joshi sahab.
06:15We have Sandhu sahab.
06:17And we have a chief electoral officer in Bihar, Gunji al-sahab.
06:22Has anyone of them come to the press and said that, look, we have discovered or invented or whatsoever
06:29the illegal immigrants or the number of entries which are foreign nationals in the electoral role of Bihar
06:36in whatever district they wish to say?
06:39We have not heard.
06:40What we have heard, an attribution to an entity called sources.
06:46I don't know where have we reached in our parliamentary and political career that sources.
06:51And there is, there is, I mean, not even a single question who the sources are.
06:56But the fundamental fact remains, not what the BJP says, that has the EC said it.
07:04And if the EC has said it, the same contaminated electoral role is responsible for electing Honourable
07:11Prime Minister thrice, 14, 19, and 20, 24.
07:18Let these kind of things, even the draft role is not ready.
07:21There is a total kiosk in Bihar in every nook and corner.
07:25Some of your reporters and strangers, if you ask them about several districts, they'll tell you there is a wide confusion.
07:32Honourable Supreme Court gave a direction to the Honourable Election Commission of India
07:37that in order to maximise inclusion and minimise kiosk, you must look at ration card,
07:44EPIC voter card, and Aadhar card at the top of it.
07:48We have not had any word, official word, again, leave a side source, from the Election Commission.
07:55So what I am sincerely of the view, that a commission which was designed by the first CEC, Sukumar Singh,
08:03he would not even imagine that we shall come at a position, then in lieu of EC, some sources will speak,
08:12and then there shall be political commentary on it, bereft of any evidence, bereft of any scientific, rational, bereft of any political understanding.
08:24Right. You know, Mr. Jai, I understand your apprehensions, especially when it comes down to where this information is stemming from,
08:31that there are illegals in Bihar, from Nepal, from Bangladesh, from Myanmar, because it's all source-based information.
08:38And, you know, you're completely right where you say that there should at least be an official indication.
08:44There should be a press conference by the EC, instead of source-based information.
08:48Two questions I'll follow up with this.
08:50Number one, Manojha, on the larger context of this entire exercise,
08:53while there are issues and the opposition like you continue to highlight those,
08:57the government of Bihar, be it the JDU, be it the BJP, be it even the LJP,
09:03constantly goes on to say, all of these parties, what's the problem?
09:07Because over 70% of people, as per the official data, I'm only quoting official data,
09:12have already submitted their forms, number one.
09:15Number two, the constant refrain, Mr. Jai, is that the likes of your party want illegals to vote.
09:22All of these terminologies, you know, being peddled right now.
09:26But the larger indication, what's wrong with an exercise which only deletes bogus voting?
09:33That's what the various parties are stating.
09:37Priti, I think your question itself is loaded with lots of misinformation, half-truths,
09:44which have again come from the sources or from the BJP quarters.
09:49But having said that, I'll tell you, let's go one by one.
09:52First of all, I have said it earlier and I repeat, first of all, our people in Delhi,
10:00whether the BJP government or the Election Commission,
10:03should understand the Indo-Napolese relationship across 15, 16 districts in Bihar.
10:11There are marriages across the border.
10:12I mean, the forces from Nepal work for you.
10:17They work here.
10:18There are different kind of treaties that are between these two nations.
10:22But then, I think these are post-truth times.
10:26So I won't get into that and waste my time and your time.
10:30Your channel, I repeat, is a responsible channel.
10:33I would request you, ask your reporters, ground-level reporters,
10:38because one Hindi daily has also done extensive reporting today.
10:44That's one of the popular Hindi daily, not only in Bihar and Thai, North India.
10:48English dailies, every newspaper, which matter for this country, they have been doing it.
10:55Are they bringing issues from the heaven?
10:57The fact of the matter is, let me tell you why.
11:02Why did we object?
11:0422 years ago, it happened.
11:07Do we even remember that in 2003, when Atal Jiri was the prime minister,
11:13these kind of exercises happened at a grand scale, at a large scale.
11:18If we come across any noise, any conflict,
11:232003, you must have been there, in whatever capacity, wherever.
11:26You might not have heard.
11:28I don't remember.
11:29I was teaching in Delhi University.
11:32I never heard anything about 2003 exercise.
11:36Why this time it is troublesome?
11:39That means the people who designed it, who envisaged it,
11:43they were not very clear what do they want,
11:45and how do they want what they want.
11:47Number two, when the CEC took over,
11:51and I was very glad when he said, immediately after taking over,
11:54that no decision of mine shall be without consulting the political parties,
12:00it certainly was a huge decision.
12:02Did he consult the political parties?
12:05No.
12:06Maybe he might have consulted one,
12:09but that doesn't represent the plurality of political culture in India
12:13and multi-party system in India.
12:15Third, how did he arrive at the conclusion
12:18that these 11 documents are sacrosent,
12:21the rest of the documents shall not be entertained?
12:24How did he emphasize that the exercise has to begin from Bihar,
12:27which is going to have official notification in the month of September?
12:33Look at the rush.
12:34Look at the chaos.
12:35The chaos is because of the pressing timeline,
12:38not because of any.
12:39We are not principally opposed to it.
12:41The fact of the matter is,
12:43you did not put your head into it.
12:46And as a result of which,
12:47all these things which I'm telling you on your channel
12:50have been raised by,
12:52have been spoken by the Honorable Supreme Court also.
12:57But because it's an ongoing exercise,
12:59Supreme Court said that we are fixing a date of 28th of July.
13:03But meanwhile,
13:05we want you to maximize inclusion
13:07and look at these kind of documents like Aadhaar,
13:10EPIC voter card and Russian card.
13:13But there is no official confirmation.
13:17So what I mean that we are not against the exercise.
13:20We are against the transparency.
13:22We are against minimizing participation.
13:26And in the same election commission
13:27is aware of the fact that roughly 20%
13:30of Bihar's population live outside Bihar.
13:34And their presumption is
13:36that the people who live outside Bihar
13:38may have duplicate,
13:40may be duplicate voters.
13:43Now, where is the evidence?
13:45For this also, you need evidence.
13:48Bereft of evidence.
13:49So, Mr. Shah, primarily you're saying
13:51your political outfit has two issues.
13:53One, of course, is the timing of it
13:54taking place three months before elections
13:56in the month of monsoon.
13:57Number time, you're talking about transparency.
13:59You don't have issues with the...
14:01Number three.
14:01Number three, lack of consultation.
14:03Absolute lack of consultation.
14:04So these are your three issues.
14:06These are your three issues
14:07with the election commission
14:08conducting this exercise.
14:10You know, you did say,
14:11well, we have our reporters on ground.
14:14And yes, there are issues.
14:15And that's what we've been constantly highlighting.
14:17But the flip side of it,
14:18which of course, you know,
14:19the question that I asked you,
14:20the government continues to say,
14:22and, you know, it's a valid point.
14:24Do we want bogus voting?
14:26We want it removed.
14:26They also give the example of 2003,
14:29which you also quoted,
14:30saying that entire exercise
14:31was completed in a month's time.
14:33So there is a fair amount of time
14:34before the Bihar election
14:35actually kicks in
14:36for this exercise to be completed.
14:38This is wrong information.
14:412003 took eight to 10 months.
14:44There was no immediate election in 2003.
14:47No, fair point.
14:48But, but...
14:49No, no, no.
14:50Mr. Shah,
14:50fair point that it took...
14:52that there were no immediate elections,
14:54but the government and the EC maintains
14:56that the election,
14:57the entire exercise was done
14:58in 33 days.
14:59That is what at least
15:00what is coming in from the...
15:03Let the then
15:05chief electoral officer Bihar,
15:08his version,
15:09it took roughly six to eight months.
15:11Okay.
15:12Well, I'm quoting,
15:12I'm quoting the government
15:14and what you call the EC sources.
15:16No, no.
15:16Government or election commission.
15:19No, no.
15:19I'm quoting both, sir.
15:20I'm quoting...
15:20The other question
15:21that I'd like to ask you.
15:22If it is government court,
15:24I consider it a political court.
15:26But if it is election commission court,
15:28please put it on your website.
15:30All right.
15:31Last two questions, Manoj,
15:32that I'd ask you.
15:33Fair, you know,
15:34issues that your party has raised
15:35where it comes up
15:37in terms of the role revision
15:38that is taking place.
15:39But,
15:40even though it is
15:41source-based information
15:42and you are valid
15:43to ask for a press conference
15:44that the EC should hold
15:45and put all this information
15:47which is being leaked
15:48by sources on record,
15:49valid concern of your party,
15:51but,
15:52then to turn around
15:53with your leader,
15:54you know,
15:55calling sources,
15:56source-mutra,
15:57sutra-mutra.
15:59You know,
15:59you and I both know
16:00what the connotation that is.
16:02Then you're completely making,
16:03you know,
16:04slight or making fun
16:06of a constitutional position.
16:07No, no, no.
16:10Are you...
16:11I mean,
16:11constitutional position
16:12did not come out
16:13and said
16:13that we are saying this.
16:16It's sources.
16:17And please,
16:18these sources
16:19were responsible
16:20for n number of things
16:21in recent times.
16:23They have been responsible
16:24for n number of things
16:25in recent times.
16:28There are times
16:28when you use
16:29a particular metaphor.
16:30You might dislike it,
16:32apparently,
16:32but the fact is,
16:33the message gets conveyed.
16:35And look,
16:36don't forget,
16:36we are living in times
16:37of
16:38Bhayens,
16:38Mangal,
16:39Sutra and Mujra.
16:40Jalidad,
16:41Tobi.
16:42These are the kind
16:43of discourses.
16:45All right,
16:45so you're saying
16:46you've resorted
16:46to the same discourse,
16:47correct?
16:48No,
16:49I'm saying
16:49that it was not
16:51an aspersion
16:51on the election commission.
16:53It was on the sources.
16:55Because election commission,
16:56even after that,
16:58has not come out
16:59and said
16:59our exercise
17:00is complete,
17:01please do understand
17:02the exercise
17:03is not even
17:0425% complete.
17:06Enumeration
17:07form submission
17:08is meaningless
17:09without the documents,
17:11without the verification.
17:12Okay, fair point.
17:13No,
17:13please listen to me.
17:14There has to be
17:15two times verification.
17:17Please,
17:17don't make it
17:18absolutely an issue
17:19which,
17:21I mean,
17:21without any argument,
17:23without any substance.
17:23answers.
17:26No,
17:26I get what you're saying,
17:27sir.
17:27My final question
17:28that I ask you
17:29before we leave
17:29I wish you'll get my point.
17:31I just wish.
17:32I hope you get my point.
17:34Why do you think
17:35we don't get your point,
17:36Mr. Jahar?
17:37You know,
17:38why?
17:40You know,
17:41I don't understand
17:42that point,
17:42but okay.
17:43You know,
17:44you all,
17:45you have a preconceived notion.
17:47No, sir,
17:47that's incorrect.
17:48Not all.
17:49Not everybody.
17:51I'm talking
17:52on the basis
17:52of evidence.
17:53On the basis
17:54of precedence.
17:54We understand.
17:55No, no, one second,
17:56sir.
17:56As a journalist,
17:57one completely
17:59understands
17:59this exercise
18:00is problematic
18:01in the manner
18:01of which is being
18:02conducted.
18:03And that is why
18:03it's in court.
18:05You know,
18:05we understand.
18:06You need to give us
18:07a little bit.
18:08Priti ji,
18:09of all the previous
18:12chief election commissioners,
18:14have you seen
18:15anybody
18:16agreeing to this
18:18exercise
18:19in this manner?
18:21I have read
18:22four election
18:23commissioners,
18:24previous ones,
18:26not a single one
18:27who are just
18:28stood in favor
18:29of the exercise
18:30in this manner.
18:31That tells you
18:32the real story.
18:35Okay, fair point.
18:36Last final question,
18:37Mr. Jha.
18:38You know,
18:38we are going to hear
18:39from the top court
18:40which are hearing
18:40number of,
18:41you know,
18:42petitions challenging
18:43the EC's move
18:44conducting this exercise.
18:45Whatever the result is,
18:47will it be acceptable
18:48or what the court says
18:49to your political outfit?
18:50Look,
18:51look,
18:52I mean,
18:52there is no denial
18:54we have moved
18:55to the court
18:56because we found
18:57the election commission
18:59was not willing
19:00to understand
19:01our position,
19:02our concern.
19:02At the same time,
19:04we saw that
19:04the Honorable Court
19:05could see the merit
19:07in our argument.
19:08They were also concerned
19:09about the pressing timeline.
19:11and they were also
19:12worried about
19:13the possible exclusion
19:15to an extent.
19:16During the proceedings,
19:18the Honorable judges
19:19asked that
19:20you have so little time
19:21that if somebody
19:22finds this or not there.
19:25But Mr. Jha,
19:26it's not the first time
19:27we've heard a lot
19:28of observations
19:29which seem to suggest
19:30something but you don't know.
19:31You did not,
19:32you did not let me finish.
19:34Sir, make your point.
19:35Let me finish my argument.
19:37It's your channel.
19:38You have all the time.
19:39I'm just telling you
19:40that the court said
19:42that people won't have time
19:43after Grivan's
19:44reiteration
19:45for voting
19:46because the voting
19:47shall be over.
19:48That amounts to
19:50potential disenfranchisement
19:53and any democracy
19:55should get worried
19:56because one man,
19:58one vote,
19:59one value
19:59that gets defeated.
20:01My only submission
20:02before you...
20:03Sir, very passionate submissions.
20:05Very passionate submissions
20:07that you have made
20:08and we are going to carry it
20:09exactly the way
20:10you've made them
20:11and, you know,
20:12we are not coming in
20:12with any preconceived notions
20:14but just the final point,
20:16Mr. Jha,
20:16before we let you go
20:17because it's not the first time,
20:19Mr. Jha,
20:19that we've heard
20:20the top court of the country
20:21or various courts
20:22make some very strong observations
20:23but when it comes down
20:24to the order,
20:25we've seen a bit of a discrepancy
20:26at times.
20:27Is the RJD agreeable
20:29to whatever the judgment
20:31is on this case?
20:33I mean,
20:33of course, yes.
20:35Why do you want us
20:38to open another front?
20:39You want us to fight our court?
20:41No.
20:42My court is my court.
20:43The highest court of the land
20:45will take our...
20:47Because, you know,
20:47something,
20:48I'll just end with this metaphor
20:49that the highest court of the land
20:52is the source of light
20:54in a dark tunnel
20:56and as a nation
20:57we are passing through
20:58a deep, dark,
21:01apparently endless tunnel.
21:02All right.
21:04Mr. Jha,
21:05appreciate you taking the time out
21:06and joining us.
21:09Good luck, sir,
21:10with your plea in the court.
21:11Thank you so much.
21:16All right,
21:16we are on India today.
21:17You'll always hear
21:18both sides of the story
21:19from what the RJD says now
21:22to what the BJP says
21:23in power
21:24along with the JDU
21:25and the LJP
21:26in the state of Bihar.
21:27Joining me right now
21:28is senior BJP leader
21:30from the state,
21:31Said Shahanawaz Hussain,
21:32Mr. Hessain,
21:33we are behind you.
21:34I'll печage you today, sir.
21:34First question,
21:36is the question,
21:37which has never stolen
21:38again do you know
21:45?
22:02media
22:02media
22:03in many news
22:04and they are
22:05cross-check
22:06by the way
22:06but if
22:08Bihar
22:09is a border
22:10state
22:10where Nepal
22:11is a border
22:12where
22:12is a border
22:13which is a border
22:13where
22:14the border
22:14is a border
22:15is a border
22:17I am a member of parliament
22:20and I am a member of parliament
22:21in 13th
22:21people in
22:22border
22:23is a border
22:24border
22:25is a border
22:25and there are
22:26many days
22:27in Bihar
22:28in this
22:28border
22:29that
22:29many days
22:30are
22:31ڈیوٹ بنوالیا ہے یہ تو پہلے سے چرچہ
22:35کوئی نئی چرچہ نہیں شروع ہو رہی ہے
22:37ہمارا اتنا کہنا ہے کہ جو
22:40اس آئی آر یوجنہ شروع ہوئی ہے
22:44الیکشن کمیسن کے ذریعے
22:46وہ اچھی نیت سے کیا گیا ہے قدم
22:48لیکن جان بوجھ کے وپخش کے لوگ جو جانتے ہیں
22:52کہ جب وہ جیت جاتے ہیں
22:55کرناٹک میں جب جیت جاتے ہیں
22:58ہماشل میں، تلنگانہ میں
22:59ویناڑ میں رائے بریلی میں
23:01تجسی آدو راگوپور میں
23:03election commission
23:04بہت اچھا ہو جاتا ہے
23:06جب وہ ہار جاتے ہیں
23:08مہاراست میں
23:09ہریانہ میں
23:10ڈلی میں
23:10تو
23:11blame election commission
23:12پہ دیتے ہیں
23:13اب ایک نیا
23:14trend ڈینڈی الائنس
23:15کے لوگوں نے
23:16شروع کیا ہے
23:16کہ وہ
23:17ہار کا
23:18ٹھیک رہا
23:19اپنے اوپر نہیں لیتے
23:20اپنی کمیہ نہیں دیکھتے
23:22کہ آپ کی کیا وجہ تھی
23:23جو جنتہ ناراض ہے آپ سے
23:24وہ نہیں دیکھتے
23:26election commission
23:27کو blame کرتے ہیں
23:28مہاراست میں
23:29کہہ رہے تھے کہ
23:29election commission
23:30نے vote جوڑ دیا
23:31یہاں کہہ رہے ہیں
23:32election commission
23:33vote کٹ دے گا
23:34کیسے پتہ لگ گیا
23:35ان کو کی vote
23:36کٹنے والا ہے
23:37کیوں یہ
23:38ہنگامہ پرپا کیا جا رہا ہے
23:40جو پہلے بھی
23:41پرکریا ہوتی ہے
23:42جیسے
23:44میں نے بھاگلپور میں
23:45خود election commission
23:46کو complaint
23:47کیا تھا کئی بار
23:48کہ ہمارے یہاں
23:49گنگا کے پار بھی
23:50voter ہیں
23:51اور گنگا کے اس پار
23:53بھی voter
23:53ایک زلے میں
23:54تو آپ ایسا کریں
23:55کہ جو voter ہیں
23:57وہ دو جگہ
23:57voter نہ ہو
23:58ایک ہی جگہ
23:59voter ہے
23:59میں
24:00ڈلی میں بھی
24:01رہتا ہوں
24:02اور بیہار میں
24:03voter ہوں
24:03تو میں نے
24:04میں نے بھی
24:05اپنا ویریفیکیشن
24:06کرایا
24:06اگر میں
24:08voter ہوں
24:08تو میں اتنا
24:09جاگ رکھتا ہوں
24:09کہ میں جہاں
24:10voter ہوں
24:11اگر voter
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24:14ذمہ دار تو
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24:16ہمیں
24:16تو جو voter
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24:17کوئی بھی
24:18voter
24:19ایک بھی
24:19valid voter
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24:21چناؤ ایک پر
24:23blend کیا جا رہا ہے
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24:26آگے بیٹھ سکتا
24:27ہم میں
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24:29پروکتہ نہیں
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24:58double engine کی
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24:59لوگ سبا میں بھی
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25:12پہلے سے خطشہ
25:13ہو رہا ہے
25:13کہ یہ جیتیں گے نہیں
25:15تو blame کس کو دے
25:16تو ابھی اسے
25:17blame دینے کی
25:17تیاری ہو رہی ہے
25:18چناؤ ہارنے کے بعد
25:20مہاراست میں
25:21election commission
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25:23اور چناؤ
25:24ہونے سے پہلے
25:25یہاں
25:26بیہار میں
25:26election commission
25:27کو blame کر رہے ہیں
25:29ایک بھی
25:29voter
25:30میں بیہار سے
25:31بھارت سرکار
25:32منتری رہا ہوں
25:33بیہار میں منتری رہا ہوں
25:34تین بار یہاں
25:35سانسد رہا ہوں
25:36ایک بھی
25:37مسلم سماس سے
25:38کوئی وقتی نے
25:39مجھے یہ نہیں
25:40فون کیا
25:41کہ میرا vote
25:41کٹ رہا ہے
25:42کسی نے نہیں کہا
25:44لیکن
25:44اس پر حکامہ کر رہے ہیں
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25:49جی
25:49سوال
25:51یہ نہیں
25:52سوال
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25:53نہیں ہے
25:54پہلا سوال
25:54ہے کہ
25:55جو ستروں کے
25:55حوالے سے
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25:56خبرے آ رہی ہیں
25:57پہلے کبھی
25:57نہیں ہوا
25:58EC کو
25:59باقاعدہ
25:59ایک پریس
25:59کانفرنس کر کے
26:00سارے
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26:01فیکٹس ہیں
26:02سامنے
26:02رکھ دینے
26:03چاہیے
26:03on record
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26:09پرتکریہ
26:10ہو رہی ہے
26:11جو EC
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26:13کر رہی ہے
26:13ہمیں اس سے
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26:21مہینے میں
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26:23ایکسرسائز
26:23نہیں ہو پائے گی
26:24کیونکہ
26:25ریڈریسل
26:25نہیں ہو پائے گا
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26:30دوسرا
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26:31کہ ان کو
26:32کنسلٹ ہی
26:32نہیں کیا گیا
26:33کوئی پارٹی
26:34EC
26:35ملٹی پارٹی
26:36کو کنسلٹ
26:37کرتی ہے
26:37ساری پارٹی
26:38جو اس میں
26:38انوالوڈ
26:38ہیں
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26:39کنسلٹ
26:40ہی نہیں
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26:42پوری
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26:43شروع کر دی
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26:48تاجب ہے
26:49میں میڈم
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26:52کا چناؤ
26:52لڑا ہوں
26:53اور کئی
26:54چناؤ
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26:55لڑوائے ہیں
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26:58نہیں کیا گیا
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27:4070%
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30:06مسجد
30:06چھن جائے گی
30:07قبرستان
30:08چھن جائے گا
30:08درگا
30:09خان کا
30:10امام بارہ
30:10چھن جائے گا
30:11کچھ ایسا
30:12ہونے والا
30:12نہیں ہے
30:13خود ہم لوگوں
30:14نے کہا
30:14کہ نہیں
30:14متولی
30:15ہندو نہیں
30:16ہوگا
30:16متولی
30:16مسلمی
30:17ہوگا
30:18اور جو
30:18وقف
30:19ویوزر
30:20وہ بھی
30:20ریشٹرٹ
30:21کرا دیں
30:21تو کتنی
30:22غلط
30:22فہمی پیدا کی
30:23اس کے لیے
30:23پٹنا میں
30:24جو دکھتے آ رہی ہیں
30:28شانوار جی
30:29وہ
30:29بیہار میں
30:30بہت سارے
30:30ہمارے
30:30ریپورٹرز بھی ہیں
30:31جو
30:32بیہار کے
30:33بونفائیڈ
30:33ووٹرز ہیں
30:34جنہوں نے
30:34چوبیس میں
30:35بھی ووٹ دیا
30:35اس بار
30:36کافی لوگ ہیں
30:37جو کہہ رہے ہیں
30:37دکھتے آ رہی ہیں
30:38کیونکہ
30:39جب آپ
30:40ایک بھارتیہ
30:41ناغرک
30:41ہودنے کے وقت
30:43جب آپ
30:43اپنا ایک
30:44نیا ووٹر آئیڈ
30:45بناتے ہیں
30:45اگر آپ
30:46EC کی
30:47ویب سائٹ پہ
30:47جائیں
30:47تو
30:48فارم 6
30:48کے تحت
30:48صرف
30:49آدھار کے
30:50تحت
30:50آپ کو
30:51ایک ووٹر آئیڈ
30:52آپ کا
30:52بن جاتا ہے
30:53نئے ووٹر
30:53آپ
30:53اسٹیبلش
30:54ہو جاتے ہیں
30:55پر
30:55بیہار میں
30:56آپ کو
30:57سٹیزنشپ
30:57کا پروف
30:58دینا پڑ رہا
30:58ایک
30:58آدھار کے
30:59پرے
30:59تو
30:59بہت
31:00سارے
31:00سوال
31:01ہیں
31:01جو آ رہے ہیں
31:01اس میں
31:01اور
31:022003 میں
31:03یہ جو
31:03پوری
31:03ایکسرسائز
31:04ہوئی تھی
31:04سٹیزنشپ
31:05کی
31:05وہ
31:066 سے
31:068
31:07مہینے
31:07لگے تھے
31:08تو
31:08ان چیزوں
31:09پہ
31:09ان پائمینوں
31:10پہ
31:10سوال
31:10کیے جا
31:11رہے ہیں
31:11شہین
31:11آواز
31:11جی
31:12دیکھیں
31:172003 سے
31:18دیش آگے
31:19نکل چکا ہے
31:20وہ چیزیں
31:20جو بہت
31:21دن میں
31:21بنتی تھی
31:22جو
31:22مہینوں میں
31:24کام ہوتا تھا
31:24وہ
31:25منٹوں میں
31:25ہوتا ہے
31:26آج
31:26دیش آگے
31:28بڑھ گیا ہے
31:28چیزوں کو
31:29کرنے میں
31:29کوئی
31:29دقت ہوتی
31:30نہیں ہے
31:31یہ
31:31یہ جو
31:32میں
31:32کہتا ہوں
31:33یہ بات
31:33صحیح ہے
31:34کہ جو
31:35منافائیڈ
31:35ووٹر ہے
31:36جو
31:36جنون
31:37ووٹر ہے
31:37جو
31:38بھارت کا
31:38ناغرک ہے
31:39اس سے
31:39ووٹ کا
31:39عدیقار
31:40کوئی نہیں
31:41چھن سکتا
31:41الیکشن کمیشن
31:43ووٹ
31:43کروانے میں
31:44ووٹ کا
31:45عدیقار
31:45دینے والی
31:46سنستہ ہے
31:46وہ
31:47چھننے والی
31:47سنستہ نہیں ہے
31:48وہ
31:49اچھی نیت سے
31:49ووٹ کا
31:50ریویزن کر رہے ہیں
31:51ویریفیکیشن کر رہے ہیں
31:52اس آئی آر جو
31:53یوجنا ہے
31:53اس پر
31:54ترہ ترہ کے
31:55منعباد کے
31:56سوال اٹھائے جا رہے ہیں
31:57آپ دیکھئے گا
31:58یہ سوال
31:58سب غلط ہوں گے
32:00اسے معاملہ
32:00تو سب جیوری
32:01سو ہی گیا ہے
32:02ٹوئنٹی ایٹ
32:03کو
32:03ابھی تو
32:04ووٹ ریویزن
32:04ہوڑا ہے
32:05اور کون کون
32:05سے پیپر ہونے
32:06چاہیے
32:06اس پر
32:07چناؤ آئے
32:08کو کچھ سجھاؤ
32:09سپرنگ کورٹ
32:10نے دیئے ہیں
32:11لیکن
32:11ٹوئنٹی ایٹ
32:12کو جب
32:12ڈیٹھ ہو
32:13اس کے بعد
32:13سپرنگ کورٹ
32:14اس پر کوئی
32:15اپنی رائے
32:15رکھے گی
32:16اور جو
32:17لوگوں کی
32:17پریشانی ہے
32:18اس پریشانی
32:19کو چناؤ
32:20ایک کو
32:20بتانا چاہیے
32:21نہ کی
32:22اس پر
32:22ہنگامہ
32:23کرنا چاہیے
32:23نہ کی
32:23اس پر
32:24آندولن
32:25کرنا چاہیے
32:25نہ اس پر
32:26شک کرنا چاہیے
32:27اگر ہم
32:28اپنے سمیدائی
32:28کونسٹیٹیشنل
32:30باڈی پہ
32:30شک کریں گے
32:31میڈیا پہ
32:32شک کریں گے
32:33آخر کوئی جگہ
32:34چھوڑیے
32:34یہ لوگ تو
32:35ایسے لوگ ہیں
32:36جنہوں نے
32:36سپرنگ کورٹ
32:37کو نہیں بکشا
32:37اگر ان کو
32:44لگتا ہے کہ
32:44نہیں
32:45اس میں ہم
32:46مدہ بنائیں گے
32:47تو مدہ بنے گا
32:48یہ
32:48ان کے نیت میں
32:50ہے کہ
32:50لوگوں کو
32:51بھڑکا ہے
32:51کہ مسلمانوں
32:52کا ووٹ
32:52چھنا جائے گا
32:53گریبوں کا
32:54ووٹ
32:54چھنا جائے گا
32:55یہ دوست پر
32:56چار کر رہے ہیں
32:57کیا ووٹر کے
32:57چہرے پہ
32:58لکھا ہے
32:58کہ وہ
32:59کس کو
32:59ووٹ کرتا ہے
33:00یہ چناؤ آئیوک
33:01کی ایکسرسائز
33:03ہے
33:04الیکشن کمیشن
33:05کی ایکسرسائز ہے
33:06اس پر
33:07سب کو
33:07trust کرنا چاہیے
33:08اگر اپنے
33:09ایلیکشن کمیشن
33:10پر اپنے لوگوں
33:11کو trust نہیں
33:12ہوگا تو
33:12کیا ہونے والا ہے
33:13بہت شکریہ
33:15شان عواز
33:15حسین جی
33:16کہ آپ
33:16ہم سے
33:16جڑے
33:16اور اپنے
33:17اپنی
33:17پارٹی کا
33:18جو بھی
33:19point of view
33:20ہے وہ
33:20رکھا
33:21many thanks
33:22for joining
33:22us
33:23viewers
33:23we've tried
33:24to give
33:24you both
33:24perspectives
33:25of course
33:25the EC
33:26yet to
33:27remark
33:28on the
33:29various
33:30source-based
33:30information
33:31which is
33:32out
33:32many would
33:32suggest
33:33that the
33:33EC
33:34should
33:34just hold
33:34a press
33:35conference
33:35put
33:35everything
33:36on record
33:36instead
33:37of all
33:37the source-based
33:38information
33:39which is
33:39whirling around
33:40we're going
33:40to leave
33:40it at that
33:41we're going
33:41to let
33:41our viewers
33:42decide
33:42because the
33:43matter
33:43is
33:44subjudice
33:44it is
33:45in
33:45court
33:46amid
33:54rising
33:55attacks
33:55on
33:55Hindi
33:56speakers
33:56in
33:56Maharashtra
33:57and
33:57protests
33:58across
33:58southern
33:59states
33:59Antra Pradesh
34:03Deputy Chief
34:04Minister
34:04Pawan
34:05Kalyan
34:05stepped
34:06forward
34:06to defend
34:07Hindi
34:07with
34:07conviction
34:08he
34:08questioned
34:09why
34:09anyone
34:10should
34:10feel
34:10ashamed
34:11of
34:11the
34:11language
34:12urging
34:12people
34:13instead
34:13to
34:13learn
34:14and
34:14embrace
34:15it
34:15invoking
34:18the
34:18legacy
34:18of
34:18former
34:19president
34:19APJ
34:20Abdul Kalam
34:20who
34:21deeply
34:21valued
34:21Hindi
34:22Pawan
34:22Kalyan
34:23said
34:23Hindi
34:24was
34:24not
34:24imposed
34:25on
34:25anyone
34:25but
34:26should
34:26be
34:26welcomed
34:27as
34:27a
34:27unifying
34:28national
34:28language
34:29Hindi
34:31was
34:31a
34:32shared
34:33in
34:33our
34:34Bharat
34:35Dr.
34:36Abdul Kalam
34:36was
34:37in
34:38Tamil
34:38but
34:40Hindi
34:40was
34:41very
34:41interested
34:42in
34:42Hindi
34:43in
34:44Hindi
34:45to
34:45see
34:45the
34:46view
34:47of
34:47India
34:48not
34:50to
34:50Jibar
34:51Jibar
34:51Jibar
34:51Jibar
34:52Jibar
34:52not
34:52Viro
34:52but
34:54some
34:55of
34:55life
34:56Kalyan
34:58reminded
34:59everyone
34:59that while
35:00mother tongues
35:01like
35:01Telugu
35:01Tamil
35:02and
35:02Karnar
35:03are
35:03vital
35:04to
35:04cultural
35:04identity
35:05Hindi
35:06serves
35:06as
35:06the
35:06essential
35:07common
35:07thread
35:08connecting
35:08India's
35:09diverse
35:09people
35:10Mata
35:12Lade
35:12Telugu
35:13Tamil
35:13Kannada
35:14Malayalam
35:16Mahari
35:17Savadiya
35:17A
35:18Bhashle
35:19Naka
35:19also
35:19Mata
35:20Ruvasa
35:21In
35:22Klo
35:22Matla
35:22Godan
35:23Khi
35:23Mata
35:23Ruvasa
35:24Kani
35:25Mata
35:25Sari
35:26Haktul
35:26Dhat
35:26Khe
35:27Mane
35:28Khe
35:28Raja
35:28Basha
35:29Hindi
35:29DmK
35:32Spokesperson
35:32Sarvanan
35:33Criticized
35:34Kalyan
35:34Stance
35:34Arguing
35:35that
35:35Hindi
35:36should
35:36not
35:36be
35:36forced
35:37and
35:37that
35:37English
35:38remains
35:38the
35:38true
35:39link
35:39language
35:39supporting
35:40economic
35:41progress
35:41without
35:42disadvantaging
35:43non-Hindi
35:44speakers
35:45We are not
35:47hating any
35:48language
35:48We don't
35:49want Hindi
35:50shoved
35:51down our
35:51throats
35:51We are
35:53saying
35:53English
35:54is the
35:55linked
35:55language
35:55of this
35:57country
35:57If we
35:58use Hindi
35:58as a
35:58linked
35:58language
35:59then
36:00every
36:01non-native
36:01speaker
36:01of Hindi
36:02becomes
36:03a second
36:03class
36:03citizen
36:04We
36:04want
36:04to
36:05avoid
36:05this
36:06Earlier
36:08Andhra
36:08Pradesh
36:08Chief
36:09Minister
36:09Chandrababu
36:10Naidu
36:10while speaking
36:11to India
36:11today
36:11had openly
36:12called
36:13Hindi
36:13the
36:13national
36:13language
36:14differing
36:15from the
36:15southern
36:15chief
36:16ministers
36:16Local
36:18language
36:19mother tongue
36:20is a must
36:20no compromise
36:21Why can't
36:22learn
36:23Hindi
36:23also
36:24to be
36:24fluent
36:25to
36:26mingle
36:26with
36:26north
36:27Indians
36:27That is
36:28a national
36:28level
36:29Nothing
36:29wrong
36:30in it
36:30As
36:31language
36:32tensions
36:32rise
36:33Pawan
36:34Kalyan's
36:34strong
36:34defence
36:35of
36:35Hindi
36:35exposes
36:36the
36:36divide
36:36within
36:37the
36:37southern
36:37politicians
36:38over
36:38the
36:38issue
36:39Bureau
36:41Report
36:42India
36:42Today
36:42Through
36:46Precision
36:47Roasting
36:47Skills
36:48Across
36:51to our
36:52panelists
36:52this evening
36:53Joining me
36:53Mr.
36:54Boli
36:54Setty
36:55Satyan
36:55Arayana
36:56State
36:56General
36:56Secretary
36:57Jan
36:57Saina
36:57Party
36:58Srinivas
36:59Reddy
36:59Kumbham
37:00Spokesperson
37:01Congress
37:01Margani
37:02Bharat
37:03Ram
37:03Former
37:04MP
37:04YSR
37:05CP
37:06Let's
37:07cut across
37:07first to
37:08the
37:08Jan
37:08Saina
37:09Spokesperson
37:10Mr.
37:10Satyan
37:11Arayana
37:11Mr.
37:12Satyan
37:12Arayana
37:12what is
37:14the intention
37:15that was
37:16behind
37:17your leader
37:18stating
37:19that
37:20Hindi
37:20is like
37:21an art
37:21does
37:22the
37:23Jan
37:23Saina
37:23and the
37:24Deputy
37:24Chief
37:24Minister
37:25of
37:25Andhra
37:25Pradesh
37:26believe
37:26that
37:27Hindi
37:27is a
37:28linked
37:28language
37:29which
37:29everyone
37:30needs
37:30to
37:30learn
37:31see
37:33what
37:33actually
37:33Mr.
37:34Power
37:35Ngalian
37:35said
37:35was
37:36that
37:37Telugu
37:39is our
37:39mother
37:39and
37:40Hindi
37:41is our
37:42big
37:42mother
37:43Pradham
37:43Periyama
37:44so why
37:45he said
37:45that is
37:46it's a
37:47fact
37:47actually in
37:48India
37:48Malayalam is
37:49spoken by
37:5038 million
37:50people
37:51Kannada
37:5245 million
37:53people
37:53Tamil
37:5578 million
37:56people
37:57Telugu
37:5885 million
37:59people
37:59English
38:00150
38:01million
38:01people
38:02130
38:03to
38:03150
38:03million
38:04people
38:04whereas
38:05Hindi
38:05528
38:07to
38:07650
38:08million
38:09people
38:09so
38:10whether you
38:12like it
38:12or not
38:12Hindi
38:13is our
38:14big
38:15mother
38:15that is
38:15absolutely
38:16that is a
38:17fact of
38:17figures
38:17I am not
38:18talking from
38:18my side
38:19it is a
38:20census
38:202011
38:21and official
38:22reports
38:22as on
38:2323-24
38:24available on
38:25records
38:25so
38:26Hindi
38:27528
38:29to 650
38:29million
38:30people
38:30528
38:32like native
38:33speakers
38:33and the
38:34people who
38:35adopted the
38:35language is
38:36the remaining
38:36people
38:37so total
38:38650 million
38:39people speak
38:40Hindi
38:41and whereas
38:42English is
38:43spoken only
38:43130 million
38:44if the
38:47DMK party
38:48or their
38:48spokesperson
38:49Mr. Satya
38:50Narayana
38:50by the virtue
38:51of what you
38:52are suggesting
38:52you are actually
38:53building a
38:54cause
38:54in a larger
38:55domain where
38:56delimitation is
38:57concerned
38:57because then
38:58it doesn't
38:59come down
38:59to the
39:00area
39:01and the
39:02states
39:02but it
39:03primarily
39:03comes down
39:04to the
39:04number of
39:05people
39:05yes
39:07actually
39:08see
39:08ultimately
39:09why
39:09English
39:09has become
39:10popular
39:10to get
39:11jobs
39:11outside the
39:12country
39:13it is
39:14helping
39:14many people
39:15software
39:16people are
39:16doing
39:17excellent
39:17jobs
39:18no no
39:18Mr. Satya
39:18Narayana
39:19by the
39:19virtue of
39:20your argument
39:20where you
39:20are saying
39:21X number
39:21of people
39:22speak
39:22Hindi
39:24a lot
39:24more than
39:24any other
39:25regional
39:25language
39:26you are
39:26actually
39:27building
39:27a cause
39:28of
39:28delimitation
39:29which
39:29most
39:29South
39:30parties
39:30oppose
39:30and even
39:31your
39:31party
39:31has
39:31opposed
39:32in the
39:32past
39:32no no
39:33actually
39:34we should
39:35all learn
39:35Hindi
39:36language
39:36when we
39:36adopted
39:37English
39:37what is
39:38wrong
39:38in
39:38adopting
39:39our own
39:39national
39:40language
39:40there is
39:41nothing
39:41wrong
39:41actually
39:42though
39:42it is
39:42not
39:42that's
39:43your
39:43argument
39:43because
39:44if
39:44you
39:44make
39:44it
39:44on
39:44the
39:44cause
39:45of
39:45the
39:45number
39:45of
39:45people
39:46who
39:46speak
39:46Hindi
39:47then
39:47by
39:47that
39:48virtue
39:48it's
39:50you're
39:50actually
39:51building
39:51the cause
39:51for
39:51delimitation
39:52Mr. Satya
39:53Narayana
39:53I'll come
39:54back to
39:54that
39:54I'll come
39:55back to
39:55that
39:55question
39:55I want
39:56to
39:56bring
39:56in
39:56Mr.
39:57Kumbam
39:57the Congress
39:58spokesperson
39:59Srinivas
39:59Reddy
40:00Kumbam
40:00where does
40:01your party
40:01stand
40:02on what
40:02the Deputy
40:02Chief
40:03Minister
40:03of
40:03Andra
40:03has
40:03just
40:04said
40:04good
40:06evening
40:06Preeti
40:07actually
40:09it is
40:10the Congress
40:10party
40:11which has
40:11brought
40:11in the
40:11Tribhasha
40:12Sutram
40:12that
40:14in 1968
40:15the National
40:15Education
40:16Policy
40:16of 1968
40:18where the
40:19Congress
40:19party
40:19was the
40:19party
40:20which has
40:20brought
40:20in the
40:21Tribhasha
40:23Sutram
40:23wherein
40:23they said
40:24that the
40:24first language
40:25should be
40:25the mother
40:25tongue
40:26or the
40:26regional
40:27language
40:27then
40:28Hindi
40:28was supposed
40:29to be
40:29the
40:30second
40:31language
40:31and the
40:31third
40:32language
40:32could be
40:32English
40:33but
40:34here
40:35we are
40:35finding
40:36some
40:36states
40:37which
40:37are
40:37opposing
40:37the
40:38usage
40:39of
40:39Hindi
40:40as
40:40a
40:40language
40:42there
40:42but
40:43never
40:43was
40:44it
40:44imposed
40:44on
40:44all
40:45the
40:45states
40:46it's
40:46not
40:46being
40:47imposed
40:47forcefully
40:49but
40:50learning
40:50Hindi
40:51is
40:51definitely
40:52useful
40:52because
40:53going
40:53by the
40:54linguistic
40:54diversity
40:55of this
40:56country
40:56definitely
40:57when we
40:58are talking
40:58about
40:58members
40:59everybody
41:00in this
41:00country
41:01knows
41:01most
41:01of
41:01the
41:01people
41:02speak
41:03and
41:03understand
41:04Hindi
41:04so
41:05nothing
41:05wrong
41:05in learning
41:06Hindi
41:06and
41:07definitely
41:08so your
41:09party also
41:10feels
41:10sir
41:10because
41:11it's
41:11interesting
41:12because
41:12you take
41:12that line
41:13nothing wrong
41:13in learning
41:14Hindi
41:14but the
41:15rest of
41:16the states
41:16where the
41:17Congress
41:17is in
41:18government
41:18has opposed
41:19Hindi
41:20as a
41:20linked
41:20language
41:21so is it
41:22the policy
41:22in Andhra Pradesh
41:23for Congress
41:23is different
41:24than what the
41:24policy is
41:25where it comes
41:26down to the
41:26state of
41:27Karnataka
41:27or Telangana
41:28even
41:29in Telangana
41:30we have
41:30never said
41:31that Hindi
41:32is not
41:33your
41:33chief minister
41:34has come
41:34out on
41:34our network
41:35and vocally
41:36been very
41:37clear
41:37about the
41:38language
41:38policy
41:39and said
41:40very clearly
41:40that accepting
41:41Hindi as a
41:42linked language
41:43is unacceptable
41:45Hindi as a
41:47compulsory language
41:48is what
41:49Hindi as a
41:51compulsory language
41:52is a different
41:52subject
41:53learning Hindi
41:54is a different
41:54language
41:55that is the
41:57thought process
41:57here
41:58we are talking
41:58about whether
41:59Hindi can be
42:00learned
42:00what Pawan
42:01Kalyanji
42:01I think has
42:02said is that
42:03learning Hindi
42:04is not wrong
42:04here
42:05and in fact
42:06in Andhra Pradesh
42:07also when the
42:08previous government
42:09I think they
42:09were trying to
42:10remove Hindi
42:12as the language
42:13over there
42:13it was the
42:14Congress party
42:15which has
42:15opposed that
42:17same thing
42:18so you still
42:21haven't made
42:21your stand
42:22clear
42:22where does the
42:22Congress stand
42:23on this
42:23so it's okay
42:24to learn Hindi
42:24but you are
42:25opposing it
42:25as a linked
42:26language
42:26I am not
42:26understanding
42:27the Congress
42:27stand in Andhra
42:28sir
42:28in Andhra
42:30or elsewhere
42:31learning Hindi
42:32is never
42:32as a compulsory
42:34language
42:35as a first
42:35language
42:35definitely not
42:36we are for
42:37the first
42:38language has
42:39to be the
42:40regional language
42:40which is Telugu
42:41here in Andhra
42:42Pradesh or in
42:43Telangana
42:44second language
42:46as even as
42:48for the
42:48national education
42:49policy of 2020
42:51or the 1968
42:52policy
42:52having Hindi
42:53or any other
42:54if not in a
42:55Hindi speaking
42:55spirit
42:56definitely we
42:57always have a
42:57chance to
42:58you know
42:59take any other
43:01language
43:01it is not being
43:02closed
43:02so you are
43:03saying
43:04you have the
43:05same
43:06exactly what
43:07the
43:08Janusena
43:09the deputy
43:09chief minister
43:10Pavan Kalyan
43:11said in Andhra Pradesh
43:12I want to bring
43:12in Bharat Ram
43:13Margani Bharat Ram
43:14where does
43:15the YSRCP
43:17stand on this
43:18language divide
43:19Mr. Ram
43:20firstly very good
43:23evening Miss
43:23Preeti
43:24here we could
43:25clearly understand
43:26the stance of
43:28the Janusena
43:29spokesperson
43:30he is just
43:32promoting the
43:33Hindi language
43:34but way back
43:35in 2017
43:36perhaps
43:37Mr. Pavan
43:38Kalyan
43:39has opposed
43:40the Hindi
43:41language to
43:42be imposed
43:43in Telugu
43:44states or
43:44southern states
43:45but they
43:46don't have a
43:47clear idea
43:48because now
43:49they are
43:50promoting but
43:51way back in
43:512017
43:52they opposed
43:54it and why
43:54is this
43:55hypocrisy
43:55when they
43:56were there
43:57in the
43:57opposition
43:57benches
43:58they have
43:59completely
44:00opposed
44:00the Hindi
44:01language in
44:02southern states
44:03but now
44:04he is advocating
44:05for the
44:06promotion of
44:07Hindi
44:07but as
44:09far as
44:09YSR
44:09congress
44:10party is
44:10concerned
44:11we respect
44:13each and
44:14every language
44:15in our
44:15country
44:16but not
44:17at the
44:17cost of
44:18Telugu's
44:19pride
44:19and Telugu
44:20is not
44:22only a
44:22language
44:23it is our
44:24identity
44:24it is our
44:26legacy
44:26it is our
44:28history
44:28and the
44:29pride of
44:30Telugu
44:30people
44:30so we
44:32don't let
44:33Hindi
44:33to be
44:34at the
44:35cost of
44:36Telugu's
44:36pride
44:36of course
44:38we
44:38respect each
44:40and every
44:41language
44:41of course
44:42the people
44:42want to
44:43learn Hindi
44:44or English
44:44we are
44:45very clear
44:46in it
44:46but not
44:48at the
44:48cost of
44:48Telugu's
44:49pride
44:49but one
44:50thing
44:51Miss
44:51Preethi
44:52this
44:52Janasena
44:54spokesperson
44:54has to
44:55answer
44:55why is
44:56this
44:56hypocrisy
44:57when
44:58in
44:582017
44:59if I'm
45:00not
45:00wrong
45:00Mr.
45:01Pawan
45:02Kalyan
45:02has
45:03clearly
45:04opposed
45:04the
45:05imposition
45:06of
45:06Hindi
45:07language
45:08in
45:08southern
45:08states
45:09and
45:09why
45:10his
45:10dual
45:11thought
45:12process
45:12and
45:13what
45:13made
45:14him
45:14change
45:14Mr. Satya Narayana
45:15the larger
45:15question is
45:16what is being
45:16implied
45:17very clearly
45:17that Mr.
45:18Pawan Kalyan
45:18playing into
45:19the hands
45:19of the BJP
45:20Mr. Satya Narayana
45:27the questions
45:27for you
45:28sir
45:28okay
45:29right
45:29actually
45:30what Mr.
45:31Margani
45:31Bharat
45:32said was
45:32that
45:33we are
45:34changing
45:34the stand
45:35or we
45:35don't
45:35have
45:35a clear
45:36stand
45:36Mr.
45:37Pawan
45:37Kalyan
45:38is a
45:38true
45:39patriotic
45:40and also
45:41national
45:42integrity
45:42person
45:43stands
45:43for
45:44national
45:44integrity
45:45that
45:45has
45:45been
45:45displayed
45:46not
45:46now
45:4725
45:47years
45:47back
45:48when
45:48his
45:48movie
45:48Telugu
45:49movie
45:49he put
45:51a total
45:51Hindi
45:52song
45:53a Telugu
45:53movie
45:54having
45:54a total
45:54Hindi
45:55song
45:55clearly
45:56absurd
45:56so what
45:57is he
45:57talking
45:57I mentioned
45:59in a
46:01public
46:01make
46:03his
46:05point
46:06I will
46:06come
46:06to
46:07the
46:07YSARCP
46:07spokesperson
46:08let me
46:09complete
46:09Mr.
46:10Satya Narayana
46:10make your
46:11point
46:11see the
46:12thing is
46:13when
46:13we
46:14said
46:15South
46:15North
46:16divide
46:16is
46:16going
46:16to
46:17come
46:17because
46:17of
46:17the
46:17power
46:18is
46:18not
46:18shared
46:18properly
46:19see
46:20at
46:20that
46:20time
46:20power
46:21was
46:21not
46:21shared
46:21properly
46:22the
46:22reason
46:22is
46:23the
46:23South
46:24Indian
46:24people
46:24are
46:25not
46:25having
46:25the
46:26language
46:26commanding
46:27of the
46:27Hindi
46:28language
46:28and all
46:28they don't
46:29know how to
46:29coordinate
46:30and get
46:30the
46:30national
46:31programs
46:31and part
46:32of the
46:32national
46:33programs
46:33this is
46:33there
46:34right
46:34from
46:34beginning
46:34even
46:35earlier
46:35also
46:36Panchai
46:36funds
46:37never
46:37never
46:37used
46:37to
46:37spend
46:38and
46:38other
46:39places
46:39because
46:40our
46:40people
46:41never
46:41used
46:41to
46:41go
46:41and
46:42demand
46:42for
46:42it
46:42is
46:42quite
46:42irrelevant
46:43you
46:44don't
46:44answer
46:44let me
46:45complete
46:45make your
46:46points
46:46very quickly
46:47yes
46:47the change
46:48of stand
46:49of your
46:49leader
46:50quickly
46:50Mr.
46:51Pavan Kalyan
46:51is always
46:52for Hindi
46:53he never
46:53said
46:53he said
46:54the power
46:54has to be
46:55shared equally
46:56north
46:56south
46:56otherwise
46:57divide
46:58will come
46:59what he
46:59said is
47:00there will be
47:00a north
47:00south
47:01divide
47:01will come
47:01if
47:02the
47:02national
47:03assets
47:04Mr. Bharat
47:06Ram
47:06the indication
47:07is that
47:07Hindi
47:08will help
47:09bridge
47:09the
47:09north
47:09south
47:10divide
47:10that
47:10doesn't
47:11relegate
47:12Telugu
47:12to an
47:13inferior
47:13language
47:14not at all
47:14not at all
47:16see one
47:17thing
47:18here
47:18we can
47:20clearly
47:20understand
47:21the deputy
47:22chief minister
47:23of Andhra Pradesh
47:24and the
47:24chief minister
47:25Sun
47:25both are
47:26competing
47:27with each
47:27other
47:28in advocating
47:29and promoting
47:30Hindi
47:30in Andhra Pradesh
47:31trying to
47:32impress
47:32the honourable
47:33prime minister
47:34just trying
47:36to impress
47:36him
47:37so our
47:38stand is
47:38very clear
47:39and since
47:40our party
47:41we formed
47:41our party
47:42and the
47:43epitome
47:43of YSR
47:44Congress
47:45party is
47:46on a single
47:47line
47:47we respect
47:49each and
47:49every language
47:50but not
47:51at the cost
47:52of Telugu's
47:53pride at
47:54bargaining
47:54I appreciate
47:56all three of
47:56you for
47:57joining us
47:57thank you
47:58there for
47:58putting your
47:58point forward
48:00because this
48:00is going to
48:01be a highly
48:01emotive issue
48:02especially by
48:03the people
48:03of Andhra Pradesh
48:04are concerned
48:05but this is
48:06the political
48:07stand that
48:07was taken
48:08by the
48:08deputy
48:08chief
48:09minister
48:09Pawan Kalyan
48:10where he
48:10didn't say
48:11that Hindi
48:12should be
48:12mandatory
48:13or compulsory
48:14all he said
48:15was that
48:16Hindi should
48:17be learnt
48:17it will help
48:18bridge the
48:19north-south
48:19divide
48:20well this is
48:21what he
48:21intended to
48:22say
48:22but what
48:23does
48:23the
48:25TDP
48:25leader
48:26IT
48:27and
48:28education
48:28minister
48:29Nara
48:30Lokesh
48:30have to
48:31say
48:31about
48:31the
48:31entire
48:32language
48:33Rao
48:33well we
48:33did
48:34speak
48:34to
48:34him
48:34listen
48:35in
48:36what are
48:40your views
48:40when it
48:41comes down
48:41to
48:41the
48:43NEP
48:43the
48:43national
48:44you know
48:45education
48:46policy
48:46there is
48:47so much
48:47that has
48:48been spoken
48:48of your
48:49neighbouring
48:49state
48:50Telangana
48:51Tamil Nadu
48:52name it
48:53well the
48:55NEP policy
48:55is actually
48:56good
48:57we have
48:58implemented
48:59it and
49:00we are in
49:00the process
49:01of implementing
49:01it it's
49:02not bound
49:04to any
49:04state and
49:05states can
49:05decide it
49:06the whole
49:07discussion is
49:08about languages
49:08and it's
49:09very unfortunate
49:10that languages
49:10are being
49:11pitted against
49:11each other
49:12and I'll
49:13tell you
49:13why
49:14when I met
49:15Dharmendra
49:15Pradhanji
49:16the whole
49:17discussion
49:17was about
49:18local language
49:19and the
49:19importance of
49:20mother tongue
49:20in schools
49:21and Dharmendra
49:23Pradhanji
49:24went on
49:25to say
49:25that actually
49:25you know
49:25it's
49:26you know
49:26Mr. Naidoo
49:27or you know
49:27Mr. Modi
49:28ji actually
49:28learnt
49:29they went
49:31to school
49:31and the
49:32medium of
49:33education
49:33was the
49:34mother tongue
49:34and look
49:35at the
49:35kind of
49:36impact
49:36that they
49:36were able
49:37to do
49:37so he
49:39understands
49:40the importance
49:40of it
49:41as a minister
49:41India
49:42understands
49:43the importance
49:43of mother
49:45tongue
49:46but at the
49:47same time
49:47Hindi is
49:48a national
49:48language
49:49no
49:49it's not
49:50it's not
49:52a national
49:53language
49:53it is a national
49:53language
49:54and we
49:54should
49:54take it
49:55forward
49:55why should
49:58we not
49:58I mean
49:59my question
50:00here is
50:00that why
50:00should we
50:01not learn
50:03Hindi
50:03why should
50:04we just
50:04say that
50:05we should
50:05you know
50:06why are we
50:06pitting
50:06Tamil against
50:07Hindi
50:07Telugu
50:08against
50:08Hindi
50:09okay let
50:09me ask
50:10you this
50:10way
50:10should
50:11I'll tell
50:11you what
50:12the issue
50:12is
50:12and it
50:13comes down
50:13to this
50:13should
50:14Hindi
50:14be the
50:15linked
50:15language
50:15in this
50:16country
50:16yes or
50:17no
50:17absolutely
50:18yes because
50:20that's what
50:20the other
50:21south parties
50:22disagree with
50:23you
50:23well we
50:24Telugu
50:24there's some
50:25parties stands
50:25for
50:26because for
50:26them it's
50:26English should
50:27be the
50:27linked
50:28language not
50:29Hindi
50:29English already
50:31is the
50:32linked
50:32language no
50:33second thoughts
50:33about it
50:34but at the
50:35same time
50:36there's nothing
50:36wrong in our
50:37kids learning
50:38Hindi
50:38why are we
50:39so scared
50:40about it
50:40in fact we
50:41should learn
50:42more languages
50:42if you look
50:43at it
50:44Mr. Naidu
50:45has been
50:45talking about
50:46you know
50:46some of
50:47our kids
50:48have to
50:48actually learn
50:49Japanese
50:49German
50:50because there
50:50are opportunities
50:51out there
50:51so we should
50:53truly be a
50:54global citizen
50:55okay with
50:55Hindi being a
50:56linked
50:56language
50:56absolutely
50:57well for that
51:06entire conversation
51:07do tune in
51:07the coming
51:08weekend
51:099pm
51:09Saturdays
51:108pm
51:10Sundays
51:11but the
51:12imperative
51:13part
51:13the important
51:14part of that
51:14conversation
51:15is that
51:16the IT and
51:17education
51:18minister of
51:19Andhra Pradesh
51:20Nara Lokesh
51:22son of the
51:22chief minister
51:23Chandra Babu
51:24Naidu also
51:24believes that
51:25Hindi is a
51:26great linked
51:27language
51:27so pretty much
51:28exactly mirroring
51:30what Mr.
51:31Pawan Kalyan
51:31said
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