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John Bolton: 'We're On The Verge Of Potentially Seeing Regime Change In Iran' After Trump's Strikes
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6 months ago
Former National Security Advisor John Bolton spoke about President Trump's decision to strike Iranian nuclear sites in an appearance on CNN's "State of the Union."
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Well, let me say this unequivocally.
00:02
I think President Trump made the right decision for America to attack Iran's nuclear weapons
00:08
program, and I think we're on the verge of potentially seeing regime change in Iran as
00:15
part of that.
00:16
I think this is a huge change in the Middle East.
00:20
It was a decisive action.
00:21
It was the right thing to do.
00:23
I thought somebody should do it for a long time, but better late than never.
00:27
Why do you think it is that President Trump did this now?
00:31
Obviously, the prime minister of Israel, Benjamin Netanyahu, has been pushing to do this for
00:35
years, including when Trump was president the first time.
00:36
Right.
00:37
Well, I think because of the launching of Iran's war against Israel on October the 7th in 2023,
00:45
it was going to come down to this at some point anyway.
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At some point anyway, this is Iran's effort to go after the little Satan, and the next
00:52
target was the big Satan.
00:53
So, Israel really faces an existential threat from a nuclear Iran, but Iran is not just
01:00
Israel's problem.
01:02
Iran is the world's problem.
01:03
It's particularly the U.S. problem, and we have now acted against this nuclear proliferation
01:09
threat.
01:09
It's clearly the right thing to do, and if Netanyahu is going in first, help persuade the president,
01:17
so much the better.
01:18
So, you've obviously been in these rooms.
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You've seen how President Trump makes decisions.
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We heard late this past week that it was going to be a two-week timeline.
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Do you think, considering the timing of this, that two-week timeline was just a ruse?
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Well, he said up to two weeks, and I thought that was a pretty clear giveaway.
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As I say, I would have done this a long time ago.
01:39
So, we'll see what happens now.
01:41
This is only day one, and I think how Iran responds to this, if they're foolish enough
01:47
to attack American positions, American personnel in the Middle East or anywhere around the world,
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what happened overnight would just seem like the beginning.
01:57
So, speaking of retaliation, I mean, how do you expect Iran to retaliate?
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What are, in your view, their list of options, and what is the most likely thing to happen next?
02:07
Well, they've got a large range of options, but the most important thing is what happens
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inside Iranian decision-making.
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So far in this war, since October the 7th, they've only had one military adversary, and
02:20
that was Israel, and in fact, when Iran launched the first ballistic missile attack in human history
02:26
against Israel, the Biden administration restrained Israel's response, and even the
02:32
second response in October was somewhat restrained.
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I think if I were an Iranian general now, seeing my terrorist proxies pounded by Iran,
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seeing the Assad regime in Syria fall, seeing my ballistic missile and nuclear weapons programs
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lying in ashes, I'd be saying to myself, do I really want to take on a second military
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adversary in the form of the United States?
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They need to think about it long and hard, because if they do, whether they try to close
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the Strait of Hormuz, whether they attack American military deployments or American civilian
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personnel, whether they attack oil infrastructure among the Gulf Arabs, whether they carry out
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terrorist attacks around the world, at that point, neither Donald Trump nor any other
03:16
American president has any option but brutal force against the Iranian regime.
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Well, to that point, I mean, what is the risk that the U.S. gets drawn into a wider,
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deeper conflict that potentially involves boots on the ground?
03:29
Well, I don't think there's any question of boots on the ground. The only conflict,
03:32
there's only one adversary we face here, and that's Iran, and their military capability is being
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decimated as we speak. I think the regime is very vulnerable. I've called for regime change for a long
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time. I think the regime is weaker now and was weaker before October 7 than at any point since
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1979. And every day that goes by, every military commander who's killed, every piece of ordinance
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that's destroyed leaves that regime weaker. The populace of Iran has seen this regime is in it for
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themselves for a lot of reasons. The corruption, the self-enrichment of the ayatollahs and the top
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generals, the economic misery across the country, the discontent of the youth. The population under
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30 is over 60 percent of the total population. They know they can have a different kind of life.
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And since the Masi Amini murder two years ago, 50 percent of the population has basically
04:27
demonstrated they don't think the ayatollahs really do speak with the word of God when it comes
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to female dress codes. This regime is in trouble. And after last night, it's in even more trouble.
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You, of course, have personal experience with this. You are the target of an assassination
04:43
attempt. The president stripped your Secret Service, your law enforcement protection when
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he came into office. Do you face greater risk today from the Iranians? And do others who face
04:57
similar personal threats on American soil face greater threats today?
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I think we do. I think it's not just me, of course. It's a list of people that the Iranians have
05:07
targeted. And it's not just present and former government officials. It's Iranian Americans,
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people in the Iranian diaspora. This is a terrorist regime.
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