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00:00Hello, everyone.
00:01This is Outnumbered.
00:02I'm Kayleigh McEnany.
00:03On this Friday, here is my co-host, Emily Campagno.
00:06Also joining us, Tommy Lahren, Fox News contributor and host of Tommy Lahren is Fearless on Outkick
00:11and foxnews.com.
00:12Rosanna Scotto, Fox 5 anchor and host of The Underground Economy on Fox Nation.
00:18And Paul Morrow, Fox News contributor, attorney, and retired NYPD inspector.
00:23What a day to have him, because this is our lead story.
00:27Former FBI director James Comey is under active federal investigation for assassination
00:33threats against President Trump.
00:35I can hardly believe it.
00:36I couldn't believe it when I saw it.
00:38He posted this picture of seashells arranged in the shape of 86-47 with the caption, cool
00:47shell formation on my beach walk.
00:50No, not so cool.
00:52In fact, 86 is frequently used as a call sign for murdering or getting rid of someone.
00:59You would think the FBI director would know that.
01:03While the White House swiftly condemned the message as an attempt to put out a hit against
01:07the 47th president, Comey took down the photo hours later and posted this curious explanation.
01:14Quote, the shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message,
01:20I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
01:24It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.
01:28So I took down the post.
01:29You'll notice there's not an apology there.
01:33It's hard to believe that a former FBI director with a storied career in law enforcement had
01:38no idea about the meaning behind 86.
01:43It's defined in the Urban Dictionary this way, quote, to get rid of originally for killing
01:48someone the phrase 80 miles out and six feet under is reserved for someone who had to dig
01:54their own grave 80 miles from civilization and then get shot execution style.
02:01Comey had no clue.
02:03President Trump, though, is not buying it.
02:06He knew exactly what that meant.
02:08A child knows what that meant.
02:10If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
02:18It says it loud and clear now.
02:21He wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
02:26And he did it for a reason.
02:30So a source of mine at the FBI I corresponded with this morning.
02:34This is what the source said to me currently at the FBI.
02:37The former director not knowing what that meant is one of the least believable things
02:42he has ever said.
02:43And that's a low bar.
02:45But the more he behaves like this, the easier it is to see how his leadership under the
02:48bureau became so weaponized.
02:51It's made the work of Kash Patel and Dan to root out the culture and focus on the priorities
02:55of letting good cops be cops.
02:58All that more important.
02:59I think that's spot on, Paul, because I want to pull up the resume of James Comey.
03:03Look at this FBI director.
03:05You can see there for years, deputy attorney general, Southern District of New York, Eastern
03:09District of Virginia.
03:10And in fact, at SDNY, guess what he worked on?
03:12The Gabino Gambino crime family.
03:15So you don't think he knew what 86 meant?
03:17You know, I always heard 86 referred to a bar downtown at 86 Bedford Place called Chumleys.
03:22It's an old speakeasy and it's still there.
03:25And the address is 86 Bedford.
03:27And so that's a bit of a New Yorkism.
03:29He was in New York.
03:30He was the U.S. attorney here.
03:31Now, full disclosure, he was there before I started bringing cases there.
03:34But that said, I'd heard about him by reputation, et cetera.
03:36And I think let's expand the story.
03:38I think what this really does.
03:40First of all, he's the former FBI director.
03:41Right.
03:42He's playing with shells on a beach.
03:43I mean, this is what it comes to.
03:45But secondly, this validates every one of the worst theories you ever heard about the
03:50deep state and the weaponization of the FBI.
03:53Let's remember specifically what went on with him in the lead up to the 2016 election.
03:57Right.
03:58You had that story break about Hillary Clinton having a server in a bathroom out west someplace.
04:02I think it was in Colorado and classified material on it.
04:05Right.
04:06They do the deep dive on it.
04:07That is the bureau.
04:08That puts it under the term gross negligence.
04:10That puts it firmly under an arrest.
04:12That's in the statute under Comey's leadership, that language, that specific language got
04:17changed.
04:18Then he came out and he gave that very obfuscating press press conference saying, we're not going
04:23to charge.
04:24Nobody would go forward with this.
04:25You know, change that language under his leadership.
04:27Peter struck.
04:29That's not as per me.
04:30That's as per CNN's reporting that validates this stuff, validates all our worst theories
04:35about what happened.
04:36So, you know, plenty of good agents were very happy to see him gone.
04:39Very happy.
04:40We have new leadership.
04:41And you can't view this in isolation.
04:42You've got to view this in the context of Jim Comey's other statements.
04:46Watch him here.
04:47I'll ask you, do you think this man has an axe to grind here?
04:49He is fantasizing about putting Donald Trump in a double wide jail cell.
04:54Do you agree with that?
04:55That would be difficult or nearly impossible for the law enforcement institutions to put
04:59him in an actual jail?
05:00No.
05:01They would just put him in a double wide somewhere out near the fence, out in the grass.
05:06And he would eat there.
05:07He'd shower there.
05:08He'd exercise there.
05:09He'd be away, as Donna Perry said, from general population.
05:12But it's obviously doable.
05:13I mean, that's not a normal fantasy, Tommy.
05:17No, it's not.
05:18But as disgusting as what he posted was and he says he just came upon it and decided to
05:24take a photo.
05:25He's an influencer now, I suppose.
05:27But to that point, actually, as much as I think that he has weaponized and as much as
05:32I think that he would likely like to see horrible things happen to our president, which
05:35is abhorrent, I've noticed a pattern with these Democrats or Democrat adjacent operatives.
05:42And it goes right along with the AOC, the Bernie, the Jasmine Crockett.
05:45In order for them to get attention in this news cycle, they have to do things like this.
05:50They have to continue to up the ante because they get attention for it.
05:53And they don't care that it's negative attention.
05:55They care that people are talking about him.
05:57And that's what I feel like a lot of this is.
05:59I mean, President Trump had to address it, right?
06:01We're talking about it now.
06:02It's as if and though to get relevance and a chance to hit the news cycle again, they
06:07have to do things like this.
06:09And there's never any consequences because cancel culture never catches up with these
06:13individuals.
06:14That's what I think this is a play for attention.
06:16You know, in talking about finding shells on the beach, Emily, that's apparently something
06:20he likes to do.
06:21And apparently he finds bizarre things on the beach.
06:23I ran pretty much every day of Christmas break on the beach.
06:26I never stumbled upon like violent messages about Trump or painted shells.
06:30But Jim Comey apparently does.
06:31I don't know what beach he's on.
06:32Look at this.
06:33This is a shell he stumbled upon in October.
06:35He put it out.
06:36And you can see it has a political message.
06:38Vote Harris.
06:39He said, saw this at the beach.
06:41Ariel understands the assignment.
06:42I mean, he finds some interesting things on his beach walks.
06:45Oh, I mean, to me, this is like the embarrassing thing about social media is that it gives
06:50the quirky components of people an actual amplification method.
06:53Look, he and his meager amount of followers now sees essentially that he's relishing and
06:58reveling in the fact that violence is cavalier to them.
07:02And that, to me, is what this signifies, which is that you will never get a condemnation
07:05of violence from the left ever and that they will always excuse and approve any threats
07:12of violence against the president because they have dehumanized him and they have created
07:16him to be a monster that needs to be destroyed.
07:19There's absolutely no humanity.
07:20And I believe that he should be held to a higher standard as a former FBI director.
07:26And the argument over whether he knows 86, well, that just either makes him incompetent
07:30or completely have grown up under a rock.
07:32I mean, even when you said server, I was like, oh, yeah, cocktails.
07:34All of us who have waited tables, anyone who is in the real world who has been at a restaurant
07:39or seen a menu, we know what 86 is.
07:41So for me, I think I see this as a spinelessness, because now that he says, oh, I didn't know.
07:46Well, then why don't you own it?
07:48You sure behind the scenes and in front of some cameras are real bold about the comments
07:52you make about the president.
07:53Or why don't you just own what you did instead of now trying to say, I didn't know what it
07:57means to me.
07:58It just adds invertebrate on top of the list of deficiencies and incompetence that he has.
08:03I hope, by the way, they pursue this legally.
08:05Yeah.
08:06And it seems like they might be.
08:07You know, Rosanna, this was an op ed he published in The Washington Post last year, and he was
08:11slamming Trump for inciting political violence.
08:14We should always worry about political violence, especially when violent rhetoric and behavior
08:18are embraced, even celebrated by one of our political parties and its leaders.
08:22For someone who's taken the time to write an op ed about political violence, you think
08:27he would think twice after a bullet grazed the head of the former president to assassination
08:32attempts that you think very hard about the messages he's putting out about a sitting
08:35president.
08:36He's been very irresponsible in his words and his actions.
08:40I mean, we're talking about 86.
08:42He comes from a law enforcement family.
08:45I mean, I come from a restaurant family.
08:48And so we know what 86 means.
08:50I get ready for whatever you're about to serve.
08:52It's gone.
08:53But what was so cool about that little rock formation or show formation that caught his
08:59eye that he thought it would be great to put on his social media?
09:04It was not exactly the right thing.
09:06And, you know, you go back 2016, a lot of people think he cost Hillary Clinton the election
09:12when he talked about, you know, investigating her for the private service.
09:16And then he also went after Trump back then for the Russian collusion.
09:20So this is a guy who said some crazy things along the way.
09:24Yeah.
09:25And, you know, I didn't want to have our producers grab this because I don't want to give this
09:28man any more attention than he's gotten.
09:30But he did post something at five twenty nine p.m. yesterday.
09:33Nice from Publishers Weekly out Tuesday, May 20th.
09:37He has a book out next Tuesday.
09:38So you have to ask yourself, was there a PR component to this?
09:42No one's in his mind.
09:43But the book message came out about the same time as the beach walk when he found the message
09:47about President Trump.
09:49Incredible.
09:51All right.
09:52So let's go first to the veracity of this issue, Jesse, of the potential.
09:56I don't know about you, but I have never once and I've walked down the beach a lot.
10:01I have never in my life come upon a political statement on the beach made out of sea life.
10:09So I find this to be a bit too coincidental.
10:12Put it put up this one.
10:13There's another one on his Instagram feed as well.
10:16This one, another blue painted shell that he found in October of twenty twenty four
10:20when he was walking down the beach.
10:22Vote Harris.
10:23And he posted this as well.
10:25And he said Ariel understands the assignment.
10:28Yeah.
10:29He's on the beach in San Francisco, constructed by James Comey with his little shells.
10:35And then he takes the picture or not.
10:37Does the shells for Prince Martha?
10:39I don't know if he made it or not.
10:41He obviously was trying to put a hit out on Trump, got caught, deleted it.
10:45And he's got a book out.
10:46Oh, what a coincidence.
10:48Any cop, any prosecutor knows the code for homicide.
10:53Eight, six isn't just a mafia slang.
10:57It's a military slang, eight, six, T, O and a rotary phone.
11:03He was a Marine.
11:04He obviously knew what he was doing here.
11:06And he's not just any old FBI director, Martha.
11:09He tried to frame this guy for treason.
11:11Remember, he spied on his campaign.
11:14He got caught, got fired, leaked, and then ran away from Durham so he wouldn't have to
11:19ask, answer any questions.
11:21He has called Trump a dangerous threat to the country who should be punished for the
11:26things he says.
11:27Now, I don't know if this guy wants attention for the book.
11:30And by the way, the book is about right-wing extremists who launch a terror attack in Manhattan
11:34or if he wants to be arrested because his life sucks.
11:39He's lost all his respect.
11:41No one likes him.
11:43He's probably dying and goading the administration to put him in handcuffs because that's all
11:51he really has anymore, going for him.
11:54This man has set the Democrats back again.
11:58Everybody with common sense knows what this guy meant.
12:01Just like we knew it was MS-13 on the knuckles, Jessica.
12:04Everybody knows 86-47.
12:06So the whole country sees this and then they lie about it.
12:11And then this is the guy that weaponized the entire Justice Department against President
12:15Trump.
12:17And it just reminds everybody the lengths the Democrats will go to lie.
12:21Meanwhile, Trump, he's trying to make peace.
12:24And this guy's calling for his head.
12:26I hope the Secret Service knocks on his door at his little beach house and pays him a visit
12:31because this can't stand.
12:32After two attempts on Trump's life, he can't take this lightly.
12:36I hope they figure out if his hands were just all over those shelves, painting them.
12:41Is there sand in your fingernails, Comey?
12:44Let me see your fingernails.
12:45Seriously, Jessica Tarlow.
12:46I mean, this is strange.
12:47This is strange behavior.
12:48It's like weirdly childish, the stuff he posts.
12:51When you go back and look at the way he posts things, I mean, he's out of a job.
12:54He can live any way he wants.
12:55He's writing this book.
12:56He's been writing novels.
12:58But what do you think about the fact that he was willing to post this thing, which is
13:02such an ... and then pretend like he doesn't know what it means?
13:06It was really stupid, but it is also First Amendment-protected speech.
13:12And 86-ing, I'm not as familiar with the mafia lingo, but I do know what happens in restaurants
13:17when they say like 86 the meatloaf, and that means they're out of meatloaf.
13:21I also know that if you go on Amazon, you can find tons of swag that says 86-46, which
13:27I guess in Jesse's terms was about kill Joe Biden.
13:30I know on Donald Trump's true social feed that I saw that video with Joe Biden hogtied
13:36in the back of a truck, which I'm pretty sure means don't treat him with respect, that the
13:41office-
13:42But it wasn't the FBI director who was doing that stuff.
13:45Well, it was actually the former president of the United States and a candidate to be
13:48president of the United States, again, amplifying something like that.
13:51Matt Gaetz has tweeted about it, 86-ing right-wing activists have done 86-46, and now they're
13:56totally outraged.
13:58But I'll cycle back.
14:01Really stupid.
14:02It's not up there.
14:03And I have 11 days before the election coming out and saying that they're reopening the
14:07investigation into Hillary Clinton to be the most stupid and that that did actually cost
14:11her the election in the end in 2016.
14:14But James Comey has bothered me once again.
14:18It is leading every cycle.
14:20I wanted to come in and talk about the big, beautiful bill failing in the House Budget
14:24Committee, and now I have to talk about Comey.
14:25So mission accomplished that way.
14:28It was just dumb.
14:30Let's play this from Chelsea Gabbard with Jesse last night.
14:33Watch.
14:34Do you believe Comey should be in jail?
14:38I do.
14:40Any other person with the position of influence that he has, people who take very seriously
14:47what a guy of his stature, his experience, and what the propaganda media has built him
14:52up to be, I'm very concerned for the president's life.
14:56We've already seen assassination attempts.
14:58I'm very concerned for his life.
15:00And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable and put behind bars for this.
15:05So, Greg, what do you think should happen?
15:07I don't know.
15:08I think, you know, throw him in jail.
15:10You just kind of look, look, he went to the beach because he's all washed up.
15:16I like the thing I like is how the dying media is portraying this story as conservatives
15:22pounce on this.
15:24Oh, my God.
15:25You know, it turns out into something.
15:26It really is it.
15:27You guys invented the pounce.
15:28You know, Elon Musk makes a salute.
15:31You spent a week on that talking about how that was hit Larian and how all Trump supporters
15:36were Nazis.
15:37The only exercise the media gets is by pouncing.
15:41So we're going to pounce a little.
15:43You guys hit the showers.
15:44The people who pounce every day on every little thing Trump has said and created hoaxes off
15:51nothing.
15:52Do not lecture us on blowing things out of proportion.
15:56There's so many people whose identity is tied forever to Trump, but it's their choice.
16:02It's not like Trump spends his life thinking about this chuckle nut.
16:05This is this guy has Trump on the brain all the time.
16:09Trump has created a legion of people whose brains are somehow broken.
16:12And I said this, I think yesterday, if the filter that you have to see life constantly
16:17has you waking up with disappointment and bitterness, you should probably change your
16:21filter.
16:22You know, Jesse.
16:23Yes.
16:24Someone once said holding on to a grudge is like drinking poison, hoping it kills the
16:30other person.
16:31I think it was either Nelson Mandela or Ryan Seacrest.
16:35But you see this.
16:36But you see this among never Trumpers.
16:39The first thing they do every morning is they drink the poison, you know.
16:43And by the way, I don't I don't begrudge Democrats.
16:47I don't think Jessica's like this.
16:50I mean, politics is a team sport.
16:53So you're a guy lost.
16:54You don't like the guy who won.
16:56I see these grudges more on people on the right, never Trumpers who have who have so
17:02much negative emotion that it impacts the way they look at everything and their own
17:07well-being.
17:08They have to learn like this guy is definitely stuck with a broken Trump brain.
17:14And when you're on the beach making little stones, there's you got a problem.
17:18You look at like Bill Maher.
17:20When Bill Maher went to visit Trump, what did you there's one thing you knew.
17:25Both of them felt a little emotionally lighter afterwards.
17:29There's something about doing that that makes you feel better.
17:32You got to let go of these these crazy.
17:34I mean, I don't care.
17:36He can do whatever he wants.
17:37He can.
17:38He can write my name in stones.
17:39I don't give a damn.
17:40But he's just ruining his own mind in his own life.
17:43You know, Emily, there were two assassination attempts against the president.
17:47And, you know, stuff on social media does fire up weirdos and whack jobs.
17:52And it's possible that this kind of thing from Comey could, you know, make someone want
17:57to do something terrible because we've seen it.
17:59We've seen it happen twice already.
18:00Of course.
18:01Of course.
18:02He's in a position of persuasion.
18:03He's in a position of authority.
18:05He was right.
18:06He carries that title forever.
18:07I don't even like a post.
18:09I may crack up.
18:10I do not like a post if I think it would reflect poorly on the brand I represent at all times.
18:15It's so shocking to me.
18:16It's obvious that he's an odd duck.
18:18And I feel like that's where social media sort of like sucks is when all it gives everyone
18:22the voices that they're just weird.
18:24And you're like, oh, like the selfies he takes of himself.
18:26It's sort of it just underscores that this wasn't, frankly, a normal person we've been
18:30dealing with, regardless of his high stature position.
18:32But look, here's the thing.
18:33That's a great one.
18:34I literally have like the same picture of me and like my cheerleading outfit.
18:38I talked to my friend.
18:40He's a longtime presidential Secret Service agent, right?
18:42He was Hinckley's case officer, Jeff James.
18:44And he talked to me about that they investigate every threat.
18:48So the concept that there's somehow a question of whether this is should be investigated,
18:52that's not the question.
18:53The question is whether it's actionable.
18:54And he talked to me about so many threats that, you know, they show up at some guy's
18:57house in central Pennsylvania.
18:59He doesn't even have two nickels to rub together.
19:01He's a rusty shotgun.
19:02He shoots squirrels with for dinner.
19:04But they had to investigate.
19:05And upon arriving, realized, all right, his threats are full of crap, right?
19:10An inmate at a state prison that wanted to be transferred to federal prison.
19:12That's why he was threatening the president.
19:14But the Secret Service shows up.
19:15So Jeff Comey better wait for a knock at the door, because I know my tax dollars are going
19:19to be spent wisely.
19:20And at the end of the day, they'll just realize, oh, sorry, this is just some idiot's house
19:24and it's not actionable.
19:25But final point, real quick.
19:27President Trump, the amount that he has been indicted emotionally and specifically for
19:34his comments to incite others.
19:36So his comment, we will never give up.
19:38If that was considered incitement, well, then I think this is pretty dang close.
19:41All right, here we go.
19:43So the Fed's investigating former FBI Director James Comey, accusing him of threatening President
19:50Trump.
19:51Comey posting a picture of, quote, cool shell formation on my beach walk.
19:57The shells spell out 86-47, 86, of course, is slang for get rid of it.
20:07Now, the 47th president, thus the 47, Comey later writing, quote, I posted earlier a picture
20:14of some shells I saw on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message.
20:20I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
20:26It never occurred to me.
20:28But I oppose violence of any kind.
20:30So I took the post down.
20:33Here's the president's reaction.
20:34Rip Baer asked him about this on special report last night.
20:38Watch this.
20:40He knew exactly what that meant.
20:42A child knows what that meant.
20:44If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
20:51And it says it loud and clear.
20:54Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
21:01He did it for a reason and he was hit so hard because people like me, they like what's happening
21:07with our country.
21:08Our country has become respected again and all this.
21:11And he's calling for the assassination of the president.
21:14Obviously, he apologized and said he doesn't want to apologize because he was here.
21:19So obviously, there have been two prior assassination attempts already on the life of President
21:25Trump.
21:26And with that, we bring in California Republican Congressman Darrell Issa, who faced off with
21:30Comey as member of the House Judiciary Committee.
21:32Congressman Issa, very good to have you here.
21:35Thank you very much for joining us.
21:37You know, first off, this is such a it's such a strange story.
21:40I mean, let's put back up this picture of this 86-47 in the sand for just a second.
21:45And then I want to show you another picture that we found on his Instagram account.
21:51So there's the 86-47 cool shell formation on my beach walk.
21:55Here's another one.
21:56This is from October 10th, 2024.
21:59This is also posted by James Comey.
22:02Boy, he finds some pretty interesting things when he goes out on a beach walk.
22:06This one says, saw this at the beach.
22:09Ariel understands the assignment.
22:11Ariel, obviously a reference to the Little Mermaid who painted Vote Harris, he thinks,
22:18and set it up just perfectly against this little post.
22:20Let me ask you, Congressman Issa.
22:22Have you ever seen anything like either one of these things or really anything political?
22:28I would just ask everyone out there to think of while you've been out walking on the beach.
22:32Well, you know, I have a home right on the beach above the harbor.
22:38I walk there all the time.
22:39I've seen some shells.
22:40I've never seen painted shells or stacks quite like this.
22:46But Martha, the reality is we have a higher level of awareness and scrutiny because there
22:53have been multiple assassination attempts on this president, and we have a higher standard
22:58for people who are in law enforcement, especially at the level of FBI director, to know or should
23:04have known.
23:05And in this case, both were true.
23:07He clearly knew and everyone knows he should have known better than to do either one of
23:12these posts.
23:13Do you think a random person put this on the beach and he just happened to see it?
23:18And the same thing with the Vote Harris shell?
23:21Or does this raise questions for you about whether or not maybe these were his shell
23:26designs on the beach?
23:29I have little doubt, but that he knew who posted these and probably it was him.
23:34Look, he's being too cute by half.
23:38And as they investigate the question of whether he crossed the line, they're going to find
23:43out exactly that.
23:44But look, Martha, Comey has had a habit of lying to Congress and getting away with it.
23:49So I hope he understands that when the FBI calls on him or the Secret Service calls on
23:54him this time, he will not have the choice of lying and getting away with it.
23:58So I hope he'll tell the whole truth when he's questioned.
24:02What do you think is appropriate in terms of the response from Secret Service?
24:06It's their jurisdiction, first of all, and potentially DOJ?
24:10Well, I leave it to the professionals there and I want them to handle it with him the
24:14same as they would any real threat or possible threat.
24:18No more, no less.
24:20But for the American people, I think you have to understand right now Cash is dealing with
24:26an FBI that has to be depoliticized and he's working very hard to do just that.
24:32Get them back to law enforcement, something that under his predecessor simply wasn't the
24:36case.
24:37Yeah.
24:39Congressman Robert has pointed out that there were a bunch of anti-Trump, anti-Elon Musk
24:42protesters who used this 86-47 slogan quite often, posting it in different places and
24:50using it in their protests.
24:52So it was something that has sort of been out there among certain circles.
24:56Congressman Daryl Issa, always good to see you, sir.
24:57Thank you very much.
24:59All right.
25:00OK, this story, it's sparking a wave of anger.
25:02James Comey, our former FBI director, posted on Instagram something that many are many
25:08are interpreting as a call for violence on the president.
25:11Look at this.
25:12The caption reads Cool Shell Formation on my beach walk.
25:17And it says 86-47.
25:20So this is what the former director is saying in response to this.
25:23It literally makes no sense.
25:25But here it is.
25:26I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which I assume
25:33were a political message.
25:34I didn't realize some folks associated those numbers with violence.
25:38It's never occurred to me.
25:40But I oppose violence of any kind.
25:42So I took the post.
25:43So what political message did you think it represented?
25:46Just in case you don't know, most people do.
25:47In the dictionary, it defines 86 as slang for to throw out, to get rid of, and to refuse
25:53service to.
25:54So when restaurants used this when I was a waitress, they would put 86 green beans on
25:58the chalkboard so we knew we were out of it.
26:00But when it comes to law enforcement, a lot of times, 86 means death.
26:04That's right.
26:05I killed him.
26:06I 86'd him.
26:07He's dead.
26:08So we thought the head of the FBI has to know what 86 can be used.
26:10Why would you post that?
26:11Number one, who cares what James Comey thinks?
26:13All he spends his time on the beach.
26:14I'm wondering, did he do that rock for me?
26:16Right.
26:17I was wondering that, too.
26:18Or do you think he just walked on and thought you'd share it?
26:19So this caused Don Jr. to stumble on it first and said, are you calling for the assassination
26:25of my dad?
26:26Yeah.
26:27So here's the president responding to it.
26:29He knew exactly what that meant.
26:30A child knows what that meant.
26:32If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
26:40And it says it loud and clear.
26:42Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
26:50He did it for a reason.
26:51And he was hit so hard.
26:54Because people like me.
26:55They like what's happening with our country.
26:57Our country has become respected again.
27:00And he's calling for the assassination of the president.
27:02Obviously, he apologized and said he wasn't calling for violence.
27:06But what do you want to see happen?
27:09I don't want to take a position on it, because that's going to be up to Pam and all of the
27:14great people.
27:15But I will say this.
27:16I think it's a terrible thing.
27:17And when you add his history to that, if he had a clean history, he doesn't.
27:23He's a dirty cop.
27:25He's a dirty cop.
27:26And if he had a clean history, I could understand if there was a leniency.
27:33But I'm going to let them make that decision.
27:35Chelsea Gabbard was asked, do you believe that Comey should be in jail?
27:38She said, I do.
27:39Any other person with a position of influence that has people who take him very seriously
27:43with a guy of that stature, his experience with propaganda media has built him up to
27:49be.
27:50She's very concerned.
27:51So Secret Service is now dispatched to investigate.
27:53And Don Jr. said, just James Comey casually calling for my dad to be murdered.
27:57This is who the Dem media worships, demented.
28:00We've already had two attempted assassination attempts on the president.
28:04Why would you encourage that?
28:05Why would you put that out there?
28:06And playing stupid is not going to get you anywhere.
28:09I look forward to the investigation.
28:11Good morning, everybody.
28:12He's back in the headlines.
28:13Back to the news for all the wrong reasons.
28:15And moments ago, President Trump responded.
28:18First, the former FBI Director James Comey accused of posting an online threat against
28:22the president and the president giving his first reaction to Fox News.
28:27So that's where we begin today.
28:28We got questions.
28:29We'll get to them now.
28:30I'm Bill Hemmer.
28:31Welcome to Friday.
28:32How you doing?
28:33Good morning.
28:34I'm Dana Perino.
28:35And this is America's Newsroom.
28:36This is not the story I thought we would be covering on this Friday.
28:37So much has happened this week.
28:38But here's what happened last night.
28:40So Comey posted this picture on Instagram and he wrote, cool shell formation on my beach
28:45walk.
28:46So the shells read 86-47.
28:4786 is slang for get rid of.
28:51And President Trump is, of course, the 47th president of the United States.
28:55So obviously not sitting well with the White House, especially in light of the president
28:58surviving two attempts on his life.
29:01Comey deleted the post.
29:02He took it down.
29:03He says he did not realize that some people associate the number 86 with violence.
29:07Who knew, right?
29:09I'm a former FBI director.
29:10So last hour overseas with Brett Baier, President Trump says he ain't buying it.
29:16Exactly what that meant.
29:18A child knows what that meant.
29:20If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
29:28And it says it loud and clear.
29:30Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
29:37And he did it for a reason.
29:39And he was hit so hard.
29:42Because people like me.
29:43And they like what's happening with our country.
29:44Our country has become respected again.
29:46And all this.
29:48And he's calling for the assassination of the president.
29:50Obviously, he apologized and said he doesn't want to apologize for violence.
29:53Well, he apologized because he was here.
29:54But look, he's a very bad.
29:55What do you want to see happen?
29:56What do you want to see happen?
29:57I don't want to take a position on it because that's going to be up to Pam and all of the
30:01great people.
30:02But I will say this.
30:03I think it's a terrible thing.
30:05And when you add his history to that, if he had a clean history, he doesn't.
30:11He's a dirty cop.
30:12He's a dirty cop.
30:14And if he had a clean history, I could understand if there was a leniency.
30:20But I'm going to let them make that decision.
30:23Katie Pavlich and Noel Rothman are on deck.
30:25But first, let's go to Rich Edson.
30:26He's in Washington, D.C.
30:27Hi, Rich.
30:28Good morning.
30:29Good morning, Dana.
30:30Well, this is it over for the former FBI director.
30:32A source with the United States Secret Service says officials will send agents to interview
30:37James Comey about this Instagram post.
30:40The director of national intelligence says the feds should arrest Comey.
30:45The rule of law says people like him who issue direct threats against the president of the
30:49United States, essentially issuing a call to assassinate him, must be held accountable
30:54under the law.
30:55Do you believe Comey should be in jail?
30:57I do.
30:58I'm very concerned for the president's life.
31:00We've already seen assassination attempts.
31:02I'm very concerned for his life.
31:04And James Comey, in my view, should be held accountable.
31:08The White House deputy chief of staff said it's deeply concerning to all of us being
31:12taken seriously.
31:13Yesterday, Comey shared on Instagram that post of what he called a shell formation on
31:17the beach, outlining the numbers 8-6-4-7, 86 informally means to get rid of.
31:22If you've ever worked at a restaurant, you say 86 to strike an item from the menu.
31:26As for 47, this is for the 47th term for President Trump's 47th president, and one
31:34who has had two highly publicized attempts on his life last summer.
31:37Now, Comey deleted the post and then wrote, quote, I posted a picture earlier of some
31:42shells I saw on a beach walk, which I assumed were a political message.
31:46I didn't realize some folks associated those numbers with violence.
31:49It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind, so I took the post down.
31:54In his first term, President Trump fired Comey as FBI director.
31:57Comey had opened an investigation into the 2016 Trump campaign's Russian contacts.
32:02The White House said Trump fired Comey because he mishandled the investigation into Hillary
32:07Clinton's private email server.
32:09Comey then wrote a book accusing Trump of unethical behavior.
32:12Dana, Bill, back to you.
32:13All right.
32:14Thank you so much.
32:15So there's a lot to chew on here.
32:16We'll say hey to Katie and Nolan.
32:17Good morning to both of you on a Friday morning.
32:19As Dana said, I didn't think we'd be covering this today, but here we is.
32:23All right.
32:24In January of 2024, op-ed James Comey said we should always worry about political violence,
32:30especially when violent rhetoric and behavior are embraced, even celebrated by one of our
32:34political parties and its leader.
32:36Noah, I don't know how you feel about it.
32:39Was he trying to joke, or was he trying to take a side shot, or was he just looking for
32:43attention?
32:44I don't know.
32:45It's hard to put James Comey on the couch.
32:46I suspect the U.S. Secret Service will take a visit to him and gauge his mental state.
32:51I suspect they'll find what we all can see with our own eyes, a delusional old narcissist
32:57who spends way too much time attempting to curry favor online with the people he thinks
33:01are the cool kids.
33:02I suspect this is about as genuine a threat as the time Donald Trump said Liz Cheney had
33:07not faced fire in combat, and everybody pretended as though he had called for her to face a
33:13firing squad.
33:14That sort of scene-chewing theatrics is really good for your engagement, and I suspect that's
33:18exactly what James Comey was after, because that's what he's always after, attention.
33:22That being said, the online forums I'm sure he haunts are really into this sort of thing.
33:27They do want to see violence.
33:29They are impressionable.
33:30They are encouraging.
33:31Just to that point, his explanation was, I didn't realize some folks associate those
33:35numbers with violence.
33:36Well, I don't.
33:37I certainly didn't.
33:38Eighty-six?
33:39But that doesn't, well, to me, that's getting something off a menu.
33:41That doesn't necessarily mean that it's interpreted that way to everybody, and we are all responsible
33:46for what comes out of our mouths.
33:47And the inadvertent consequences that could result from them, everybody needs to take
33:51the temperature down.
33:52James Comey knows that, and he should have behaved more responsibly.
33:55All of us are responsible for this environment, and our responsibility is to keep it civil,
33:59calm, and measured.
34:01Food servers everywhere know exactly what it means, but you would imagine, as President
34:04Trump said, that because it is used more colloquially in the world, that the former FBI director
34:10would have known it, too.
34:11I just want to point out, we've looked for any sort of Democrat reaction.
34:15We don't have it yet.
34:16There is none.
34:18Of course the former FBI director should know about this, or did know about what the meaning
34:23of this was.
34:24And for him to then issue this weird apology and claim that he knew it was a political
34:29message, but didn't know that half of it meant violence.
34:33On the other hand, he says he just happened to be walking on the beach and found these
34:36shells in the shape of 8647.
34:40And he says it's cool.
34:41So why do you think that's a cool formation?
34:44He's trying to get back into the attention economy.
34:47As Noah said, he is a narcissist.
34:49However, for him to then, when he gets caught doing this, in an environment that is deeply
34:54concerning in terms of the history of the president having two assassination attempts,
34:59one that would have taken his life within a millimeter of his ear, is absolutely disgusting.
35:05And it just goes to show again that James Comey's history of destroying the institution
35:09of the FBI, completely destroying the distrust Americans have in this institution they should
35:14be able to rely on for objective viewing of violent threats.
35:21And now he's going to deny that as the FBI director, that he doesn't understand what
35:25these symbols of violence mean.
35:27And again, you just happen to be walking and you find this symbol in the sand.
35:31It's like saying a friend is asking.
35:32They've gone out to question him.
35:34So this story is not over.
35:35We're going to hear what his explanation is for that.
35:38All right.
35:39So resistance, I would say at the moment, is a small R. I think Democratic politicians
35:45have been trying to break through, I would say with little to no success thus far.
35:50But sometimes pop culture kind of leads the way.
35:52And Dana and I were talking about this yesterday, you know, Springsteen's on tour, opened up
35:57the other night in Manchester in England.
35:59And it was clear that he wanted a message because on the floor there's a teleprompter
36:05And he was reading this.
36:07And this is the message, how it went the other night.
36:35It sounds a little bit like 2017, I don't know how you read that, but I think those
36:46on the left love to hear this, by the way.
36:49This is like red meat for them.
36:51But I think performers like Springsteen have an opportunity to cut through in ways that
36:58our politicians in Washington, D.C. fail to.
37:01What do you think?
37:02It's quite possible.
37:03It's certainly something that will be resonant with the resistance crowd that you're describing.
37:08And aging hippies issuing political statements from the stage is something that I grew up
37:12with.
37:13I'm pretty comfortable with it.
37:14And our system can certainly absorb it.
37:15We don't criminalize that kind of speech.
37:17That being said, as I said previously, there is obviously a market on the left for direct
37:22street action.
37:24I think what was more illustrative of what we're going to see this summer was what happened
37:27in New Jersey, in a nice facility, Ras Baraka attempting to get himself arrested, in part
37:31because he wants to generate attention for himself because he's running in a primary
37:35for a statewide race.
37:38And if you think, and I think he made a smart calculation there, that he thinks he will
37:42generate traction with the voters he needs by making himself this sort of a target and
37:47by generating this sort of hostility, anxiety, and an air of violence.
37:53That's the sort of thing that does resonate with a small number of Democrats who punch
37:56way above their weight in their political coalition.
37:58But it's small numbers of people voting primaries.
38:00I just find Bruce Springsteen's a bit old.
38:03This is something he's been doing for a very long time, these overwhelming, exaggerated
38:07messages of persecution in America while he's in Europe making this statement where they're
38:12putting people in prison for memes and hurting people's feelings on the internet.
38:16So the contrast of what's happening where he's standing and what's happening in the
38:20U.S. where you still have your First Amendment rights is quite interesting.
38:23It's an interesting point.
38:24Like in England, if you post something online, you can get arrested.
38:27If you pray in the wrong place silently, you can also get arrested.
38:30There's so many things you can do in Europe to get arrested for actually not speaking.
38:34So for him to say that the problem is here in America doesn't quite play out with the
38:37facts.
38:38Which is exactly what J.D. Vance said in his speech to the Europeans.
38:40Indeed.
38:41All right.
38:42Great to see you both.
38:43Happy Friday.
38:44You too.
38:45Thank you, Noah.
38:46Secret Service now launching an investigation into the former FBI Director James Comey.
38:52So this is in response to a post that he put on Instagram of shells on a beach.
38:57Look closely.
38:59The White House says that amounts to putting a hit on President Trump.
39:05Comey took it down, deleted it, said he didn't realize some people interpreted the number
39:0886 as violent.
39:09Well, here's what the president told Brett Baier two hours ago overseas.
39:13He knew exactly what that meant.
39:15A child knows what that meant.
39:17If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
39:25And it says it loud and clear.
39:27Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
39:33And he did it for a reason.
39:36And he was hit so hard.
39:38Because people like me.
39:39And they like what's happening with our country.
39:41Our country has become respected again.
39:43And all this.
39:45And he's calling for the assassination of the president.
39:47Hey, so I want to bring in Congressman Jim Jordan, Republican of Ohio, chairman of the
39:51House Judiciary Committee.
39:52And sir, welcome to our coverage.
39:53Good to be with you.
39:54Good morning to you.
39:56What did you make of this?
39:57Well, I think it's Jim Comey trying to get attention.
40:00I think President Trump's exactly right.
40:02I think Jim, James Comey knew what he was, knew what he was doing, knew what it meant.
40:06But I think he's trying to, Bill, I've probably been involved in more depositions, more transcribed
40:12interviews than just about anyone in Congress over the last several years.
40:15And I don't remember anyone as arrogant as Comey when we deposed him.
40:19He's in the Clapper Brennan category.
40:21I think this is him trying to get attention.
40:23I don't think it worked so well for him because I think the country saw what this was about
40:27and said, this is ridiculous.
40:29He took it down.
40:30Now, I don't even know.
40:31Did he say this was already there or he arranged the shells and the rocks in that formation?
40:36It's a little unclear about that.
40:39The impression was given that he stumbled upon it during a beach walk.
40:43But I think officials are out there asking him some questions as of last night.
40:47We'll see what comes of that.
40:49He did say this online.
40:51I did not realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
40:57In what world does that fly?
41:00I mean, I don't think it does.
41:02The idea that he may have stumbled on this and someone else arranged it and he took a
41:05picture of it and posted it, I find that a little hard to believe as well.
41:09Maybe that happened.
41:11What I do know is Secretary Nome's investigating.
41:13The Secret Service are investigating.
41:15And I think Cash Patel has said he'll leave it there right now and then we'll see what
41:18happens.
41:20But what I do know is when we deposed Comey, what he was like, I do know what it's amazing
41:25some of these people who went after President Trump so much.
41:27I mean, remember, Comey's the guy who set up the whole arrangement where the Clinton
41:33campaign hired Perkins Cooey, who hired Fusion GPS, who hired a foreigner who wrote the fake
41:38lying dossier that Comey used to go as the basis to the FISA court to get the warrant
41:42to spy on President Trump's campaign.
41:44That's Jim Comey.
41:45That's the guy we're talking about.
41:47And when we depose him, all I remember is the arrogance, the sanctimoniousness of this
41:52guy or, you know, just that's what I remember.
41:55OK, let me ask you about another topic.
41:56You are looking into allegations that covid delayed the release of the vaccine in 2020.
42:02Here is what you got.
42:03Wall Street Journal allegations about timing of Pfizer covid vaccine passed to the House
42:08panel.
42:09Yeah.
42:10Former Pfizer scientists said the timing of the vaccine results was not a coincidence,
42:13according to allegations provided by a rival drug maker.
42:17Now, sir, Pfizer has responded to this.
42:21That company is saying Pfizer's and received a letter asking about allegations made in
42:24the Wall Street Journal story.
42:26We will respond directly to the committee.
42:28There was a scientist by the name of Philip Dormitzer.
42:31Who is he?
42:32Yeah.
42:33What does he know?
42:34What have you found so far?
42:35Yeah.
42:36Dr. Dormitzer was one of the top guys at Pfizer working on putting together the vaccine.
42:41And understand the timing.
42:42November 3rd, 2020 is Election Day, November 7th, 2020.
42:46Joe Biden is declared winner November 8th.
42:48The very next day, Pfizer announces all the results are in.
42:51Everything's fine with the vaccine.
42:54One day later.
42:56And what Mr. Dormitzer has said, Dr. Dormitzer has said after this last election, after the
43:00most recent presidential election, working for a different company, he said, hey, can
43:04you send me to Canada?
43:06Can I get out of the country?
43:08Because we delayed the results back in 2020.
43:12And I'm afraid the Trump administration is going to look into this.
43:14So you don't ask to leave the country, Bill, unless you've done something wrong.
43:17Now, he's now changed his story that this information has become public.
43:21But he said to a human services or excuse me, someone in the GSK where he worked for
43:28GlaxoSmithKline, he said to them in the human resources department that, oh, let's just
43:33say that it wasn't a coincidence when the results came out back in 2020.
43:38So that's our concern.
43:40Because again, remember the big picture.
43:42This was obviously this was a huge issue in the 2020 election.
43:45And you coupled this delaying the results with the 51 former Intel officials who lied
43:51to us on that and all the things that were done by the left to impact that election.
43:56That's not supposed to happen in our great country.
43:58So we're going to investigate this and find out.
44:00In a word, do you think you can prove this on Pfizer?
44:02Yes or no?
44:03Say it again, Bruce or Bill.
44:05Can you prove this?
44:07Well, we have what he said and we have witnesses at GlaxoSmithKline who told us that's what
44:13he conveyed.
44:14So we'll see.
44:16All I know is this warrants investigation and that's why we're doing it.
44:19All right, Jim.
44:20Join.
44:21Thank you for your time.
44:22More to cover.
44:23We will on another time or occasion.
44:26The former FBI director, James Comey, being investigated by three different federal agencies
44:30after critics claimed his now deleted Instagram post called for violence against President
44:35Trump.
44:36I'm Jonathan Cott, former communications director for Senator Joe Manchin and Matt
44:39Whitlock, the former senior advisor at the National Republican Senatorial Committee.
44:43So here's what we're talking about this Friday afternoon.
44:47My learned and bearded friends.
44:50Here was the post.
44:51James Comey post this.
44:53He sees some shells, I guess, on his daily beach walk that spelled out eight, six, four,
44:57seven.
44:58He said, cool shell formation on my beach walk.
45:01And then after he got a raft of, you know what about it?
45:03He deleted that and posted this.
45:05He said, I posted earlier a picture of some shells I saw today on a beach walk, which
45:09I assumed were a political message.
45:11I didn't realize some folks associate those numbers with violence.
45:14It never occurred to me, but I oppose violence of any kind.
45:17So I took the post down.
45:20What the heck, Jonathan?
45:22I've thought Jim James Comey was a jackass since 2016.
45:26So I'm happy that my Republican friends are hopping on board this train.
45:29But I'd also point out you can go on Amazon right now.
45:32You can go on multiple MAGA websites and buy an 86-46 flag t-shirt.
45:38Yeah, but they're not being sold by the former director of the FBI, though they might be.
45:41Right.
45:42But they're being sold by a lot of Trump supporters.
45:45This is not a new thing.
45:46He is a private citizen.
45:47He did something stupid.
45:49He also somehow found a shell that said, you know, vote Kamala.
45:53I don't know what beach he walks on that all these shells are appearing.
45:56The painted beach.
45:57Yeah.
45:58I've never seen these beaches.
45:59But look, he's an idiot.
46:01He'll get a visit from multiple law enforcement agencies and look, he's trying to sell a book.
46:07My guess is it's not going to do too well.
46:09But that's what he was doing.
46:10Uncharacteristically harsh words from Jonathan.
46:12I gotta say, I think one of the most bipartisan things in Washington might be let's all find
46:17a new beach for Jim Comey to go to where there's less political messages and he can ride off
46:21into the sunset.
46:22I hear this and I just think the FBI director knows exactly how people are going to interpret
46:27this.
46:28I agree with people who say 86 can mean a lot of different things, throw out rotten
46:31eggs, things like that.
46:32But when it comes from the former FBI director and when the target is someone who has been
46:36targeted with multiple assassination attempts, he knew exactly how people were going to interpret
46:40this.
46:41His goal is, as John said, to sell a few more books to the wine mom audience who normally
46:46is watching the view and things like that.
46:48And I think, you know, maybe this will juice it a little bit, but I think that the resistance
46:51energy is just starting to kind of dissipate.
46:53So I think we all agree, let, let James Comey ride off into the sunset and, uh, you know,
46:58maybe just spend a little less time on social media.
47:00People do finally remember the 86 Mets though.
47:04My only chance as a Mets Jetson Knicks fan.
47:06It's my only championship.
47:07You guys got to take what you can get.
47:08Well, here's what Donald Trump said about it to our Brett Barrow.
47:11Listen here.
47:12He knew exactly what that meant.
47:13A child knows what that meant.
47:15If you're the FBI director and you don't know what that meant, that meant assassination.
47:22And it says it loud and clear.
47:25Now, he wasn't very competent, but he was competent enough to know what that meant.
47:31All right.
47:32So a nearly twice assassinated president obviously is going to take exception to this.
47:36I want to move on to Bruce Springsteen because there he was in Manchester, England, and decided
47:40to take time out from performing his music to talk a little about politics.
47:44Listen here.
47:45In my home, the America I love, the America I've written about, that has been a beacon
47:53of hope and liberty for 250 years, is currently in the hands of a corrupt, incompetent, and
48:01treasonous administration.
48:03Well, I guess so much for politics ending at the water's edge.
48:06The president's overseas and Springsteen does that.
48:09Yeah, look, Bruce Springsteen has been a progressive activist his entire career.
48:13I don't think if you listen to his music, Born in the USA, Streets of Philadelphia,
48:18We Take Care of Our Own, you would be surprised that he's a Democrat.
48:21He performs concerts for every Democratic presidential candidate.
48:25So this is where we are.
48:27He is speaking out to his audience and telling them how he feels.
48:30I think the idea that politics stops at the water's edge ended years ago.
48:36Although Kid Rock thinks that that policy should stay in place.
48:39Listen to what he said this morning with Steve Doocy.
48:41You just kind of laugh it off and go, what's the matter with these people?
48:44You know, that they've got to be in a foreign country talking junk about, you know, the
48:48America we're in right now.
48:50It's like you couldn't find something positive to say?
48:53Matt?
48:54Bruce, I gotta, I gotta agree with the point that it breaks my heart for the guy who sings
48:59Born in the USA to go to the UK and trash our president, but also just the state of
49:04domestic politics.
49:05And I also think it's very rich to go to the UK and complain about our civil rights circumstances.
49:10In the UK right now, every month, 1,000 people are being arrested for things they're posting
49:15online.
49:16And it's not hate crimes.
49:17It's not threats.
49:18It's things they're sharing in messages on WhatsApp about their kids' schools, things
49:21like that.
49:22So I think that's rich.
49:23And I think that a lot of people would enjoy Bruce's concerts more if he went back to his
49:27roots of focusing on the music, let the lyrics of his songs tell the story, but don't try
49:32and give these scripted speeches that are just so uncomfortable.
49:35Yeah.
49:36Just, just play the music.
49:37Just make the coffee.
49:38Just play the music.
49:39I'm going to see him in Germany on June 27th.
49:41I hope he's still rocking.
49:43Can you imagine this speech in Germany?
49:46Wow.
49:47Even less civil rights.
49:48Who's opening for him?
49:49Arnsturz and de Neuwirth?
49:50I hope nobody.
49:51Thanks, gentlemen.
49:52Good to see you.
49:53I'm going to work on the beard for next time.
49:54Yes.
49:55Thanks, Sean.
49:56Hey, Sean Hannity here.
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