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Fox News TV || Trump 'pardon czar' Alice Marie Johnson, who herself has been in prison, explains how she will help find Americans who 'deserve a second chance' on 'My View with Lara Trump.' #foxnews #news #fox #trump #pardons
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Speaking of second chances, few embody that better than my next guest.
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She was one sentence to life behind bars for a first-time nonviolent drug offense
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until President Trump stepped in and gave her the freedom she deserved.
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She has been just so outstanding and I'm so proud of you and we're giving Alice a full pardon.
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That means you can do whatever you want in life and just keep doing the great job you're doing.
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Now, Alice Marie Johnson is leading the charge as the president's pardons are,
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working to bring hope to those still trapped in a broken system.
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I sat down with Alice to learn more about the road ahead for reform
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and why redemption matters more than ever.
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Alice, thank you so much for sitting down with me.
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Your story is so incredible.
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When you think back on all of it, I mean, it could be a movie script.
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It could be a book that people would say, this couldn't even be real.
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Do you pinch yourself sometimes thinking about all of it?
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I do.
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Every single day that I walk into this building, I've gone from prison house to the White House.
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And it's just incredible to me that my life would take a full circle journey.
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Seven years ago, I was sitting in a prison cell.
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Wow.
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It is really remarkable.
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And then you're here today.
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You are President Trump's pardons are.
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Yes.
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What does a pardons are do?
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And how do you determine the people who you then take to the president and say,
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maybe you should consider a pardon for this person?
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It's really easy for me because I've lived it.
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And so the president has entrusted me with this mission to find, help him find those people
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who deserve this second chance, who are similarly situated, not just like me, but who have served
01:53
enough time, who have paid their debt to society.
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Plus, there are those who have been, I'm going to say, the victims of lawfare the same way our
02:04
president was.
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You were a first-time nonviolent offender.
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Yes.
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And you were given a life sentence without the possibility of parole.
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Were you prepared for that sentence?
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And did you feel at all that what you had done warranted that?
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Absolutely not.
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I was not prepared for it.
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And I definitely did not think that it was warranted.
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Never been arrested before.
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Never was criminally minded.
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Just a bad situation came into my life where under duress, I made a very bad decision to
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become involved in something that I didn't think it would lead to this.
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I've never sold drugs.
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I've never used drugs.
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And to be labeled with even a queen pin, if I was, I was the worst one in history.
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But thank God that my case came to the attention of President Trump, and he had compassion on
03:00
me.
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He was the first one who really pulled back the layers to my case to say, this is wrong.
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I had appealed to President Obama three times and been turned down all three times.
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But when it came to President Trump, he is the reason I'm sitting here today.
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You got the same sentence as serial killer Charles Manson.
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Worse.
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So why do you think you were given that sentence?
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They really came for me very strongly.
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When my attorney told me that they were offering me three years, he said, don't take it.
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He said, there's no way you're going to be found guilty because you have no money, you
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have no drugs.
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But little did I know about conspiracy.
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That someone can come and testify about something to save themselves, and then I could be sentenced
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like this.
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So when they told me life plus 25 years, it was unbelievable.
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My family couldn't believe it.
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I thought it was a mistake.
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To go from this moment where you're given a life plus 25 years sentence without the possibility
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of parole to 2020, President Trump giving you a full pardon.
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Tell me that moment when you heard Alice Marie Johnson, you've been fully pardoned by President
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Donald Trump.
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When President Trump gave me a full pardon, I felt that my life was starting all over again,
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not knowing that I would be advocating and fighting so hard for the freedom of others.
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President Trump had asked me to go find people like myself, and I brought many to the White
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House, and President Trump gave those individuals a second chance also.
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Do you know the number, how many people you've allowed to have that second chance?
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I sent over 100 clemency and pardon petitions to the White House when President Trump asked
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me to look for them.
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Over 46 people really were able to get a second chance in life.
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Wow.
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That probably gives people a lot of hope.
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People who either have been wrongfully convicted, they've had a sentence like yours that just
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went way above and beyond anything that should have been appropriate.
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Do you think about yourself back whenever you were in prison and thinking, would anyone
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even care that I'm here?
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I know that it gives families and prisoners around the nation hope that someone like me
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has been elevated to the position of pardon czar.
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For the President of the United States, they see themselves in me.
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They see themselves with the ability to move beyond their mistakes and to go into a future
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that they're not defined by the worst thing they've done in their lives.
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I really represent what America is about, second chances, the grit to come back even stronger
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as a nation, that we've gotten beyond our mistakes from our past.
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We've learned from them.
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We have grown from them.
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We are not a perfect nation.
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We are an imperfect nation, striving, striving for excellence, striving for the ability to
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be a beacon to the rest of the world.
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Would your story have been possible in any other country?
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No, absolutely not.
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Only someone like President Trump could make my story possible.
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We needed someone right at that moment, and in this time we're in now, who has the courage
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to make right decisions.
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And there are so many others who are serving long, unnecessary sentences, who pose no safety
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risk and who have rehabilitated, who deserve that second chance.
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What would be your hope over the next four years, while President Trump is in the White House,
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while you or his pardons are?
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There are laws that have to be changed, because even in my position, I'm not going to be able
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to find everyone.
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I am going to find as many as I possibly can find.
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But I'm also going to be advocating and looking at the things that are out there on the law,
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on the books that need to be changed, but to also do what the president has entrusted me
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to do, and that's find those individuals who need that second chance, those individuals
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who had lost hope in a system that was totally corrupt.
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We now know it's not about how much money you have.
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If you have a corrupt system in place, there is no one safe.
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For those people out there who might just be in a dark place of their own, what is your
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message of hope to anybody who's facing something really tough right now?
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The message I will give to them is the sun is going to shine again.
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Don't make a decision in your life based on a dark time in your life.
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I want to just tell you about an amazing young man who was caught in a prison called addiction.
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He's someone who I'm advocating for.
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But this young man had committed different crimes, petty crimes, misdemeanors.
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They were all related to his addiction.
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But he's been clean for 14 years now.
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He's gone on to get his degree from Columbia, a bachelor's.
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Wow.
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And now he's about to graduate from Yale University.
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And he's someone that I'm looking at for a full pardon because he needs that ability
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to pass his bar and to practice law.
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And he's someone that will be a beacon of hope for those caught in addiction.
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There are so many cases that I've been looking at and reviewing that I'm hoping that these
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people will get a second chance.
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And I think that these individuals will give hope to others the same way I've given hope,
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that someone sees you, someone hears you, and that someone understands.
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Alice's passion is inspiring, but she's not the only one fighting hard to change our system.
09:17
Savannah Chrisley went from TV personality to prison reform advocate, and she joins my view next.
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