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00:07Rico?
00:08Ryan, I got a question for all the listeners out there.
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00:54Ryan, stop being a hater.
00:55I'm a U of M fan and I picked MSU to win the national championship.
00:58No reason to hate on a good Big Ten program that isn't Ohio.
01:03That's from Joey in a truck.
01:04Ryan is pathetic for begging for an Oregon win.
01:07That is from Dave in Waterford.
01:09That's fine.
01:10At least I'm honest.
01:11Are you paying more attention to the Michigan State game against Oregon or the Michigan game against the Beavers?
01:15Uh, no.
01:16I'm, uh, well, I will be paying more attention to the Michigan State game.
01:21Uh, we're having a little lady baptized on Saturday.
01:24So, 1245 baptism.
01:26So, the Michigan game is kind of an afterthought for me.
01:28You're going to settle the score with all the five families?
01:32Do I need to watch out?
01:34Well, I'm getting my hair cut.
01:35It's all good.
01:36I don't need to get more green.
01:37We've got the, uh, we've got it all squared away.
01:42So, we've got the baptism on Saturday.
01:44Make sure you're not doing anything.
01:45He's going to take me, you, Rob, Dave Shore, Matt, Derry for showing up late.
01:54Yeah, I'll show Derry for showing up late.
01:55After baptism, I settle all the family moves.
01:58Right, so that, um, that's just a thought.
02:03Uh, that's a good one.
02:06But anyway, no, uh, look, the game of college, the game of the weekend in college athletics,
02:13in college football, is Michigan State in Oregon.
02:16And I am sorry.
02:18Yes, I went to the University of Michigan.
02:20I still openly root for the University of Michigan.
02:23And I hate the term slappy.
02:25If you want to call me a slappy, all you, fine.
02:27I am going to be rooting for the University of Oregon to beat Michigan State.
02:31Ryan, here's what I have to say about the slappy and why I can't say you are a slappy.
02:36And I know some people will be like, you, you, you, you, you, you went there.
02:40You got pride.
02:41You took classes.
02:42You are a Wolverine no matter what.
02:45Even if you try not to, you, you, you're an alum.
02:48You're a Wolverine.
02:49So, yes, you want to see your school do well.
02:52Any alum, I can't call an alum a slap.
02:54Thank you for that.
02:56I can't.
02:56It's like saying Deez is a Syracuse slap.
02:59No, he's a Syracuse alum.
03:00He went to school there.
03:02So I would expect when they're playing St. John's or Georgetown or Villanova, him in his man cave, head to toe in orange.
03:10No man cave.
03:11Saying, you know, go orange.
03:13I need a man cave.
03:14I don't have one.
03:15You don't have a man cave?
03:16No.
03:16I'm shocked.
03:18Matthew Deez will be there.
03:18Can we just keep all your cash in the garage?
03:20Hey, by the way, you're going to have Desmond Howard tomorrow, right?
03:25Yes.
03:27I don't know why.
03:29I have never been a fan of Desmond Howard.
03:32I think that Desmond Howard is a Richard.
03:34Just my personal opinion.
03:37I think he always has been.
03:39There is nothing about Desmond Howard I think that I enjoy.
03:43Ryan, everybody has that guy from their school that they're not a fan of.
03:46You know what I mean?
03:47I've never been a huge fan of Kirk Gibson.
03:50He's a, boy, Gibby was homering it up last night.
03:54Wasn't he?
03:56You listened to me.
03:57Wait, what was that, Adam?
03:58Adam Selleck.
03:59I wasn't paying attention.
04:01I was watching the game, but I wasn't truly paying attention to Kirk Gibson.
04:05I think he was talking about in the ninth inning or something like that.
04:09Do you walk Miggy here because J.D. Martinez hit a home run earlier in the game?
04:16And Martin, you absolutely walk Miguel Cabrera in the ninth inning of a tie game.
04:22I'm a big, I'm a Kirk fan.
04:23I like him personally, too.
04:25I always have.
04:25I think he adds a different element to the broadcast that's different from Rod.
04:30But last night, I don't know if it's been the last couple days,
04:32and Adam Selleck's looking at me with a face.
04:35It's almost like somebody with the team and Fox got together and went,
04:38we know it's a crap show, it's a bleep show right now,
04:41so we really need to spin a rama this last month and make it positive.
04:45Oh, spin a rama's an understatement.
04:47You know, Romine drops down on a sack bump, a 13th,
04:51and Gibby was describing it like it was the greatest heady heads up.
04:55That's your job to lay a bunch down.
04:57If I was going to just give out free tickets to the carousel, how about that?
04:59It was, it was a, it was, for his, that was one of the worst,
05:03best, best, worst baseball games I've ever watched.
05:05How about two teams that have no business.
05:08How about Rodney Davis?
05:09I mean, the run is going to score anyway in the ninth inning on a sack fly,
05:13but to flat drop the baseball is not a good look.
05:16True.
05:17But you guys have done play-by-play.
05:19I did some high school stuff back in the day.
05:21When you've got to call for a team that clearly has nothing to play for,
05:25you're there for the next couple hours anyway.
05:28So, at that point, you can't sit there and say,
05:31this team blows, you've got to try and spin it and find something.
05:34Well, a little, you know, there's, there are times that you've got to,
05:37you're right, you've got to be, because if you're working for the team,
05:39that that's, I just thought last night, for something, I don't know why.
05:42This next inning is sponsored by Butter.
05:43I don't know why I got enthralled in that game last night.
05:47I couldn't turn it off.
05:48It was, it was, it was such a train wreck.
05:50It was such a, you're like this guy with Tiger Woods.
05:53A pile up on, a pile up on I-96.
05:54I couldn't stop watching, but I just thought Gibby was like,
05:58overly positive last night, you know?
06:01Yeah, yeah, it's going to make the last look.
06:03What are you going to do, though?
06:03I mean, like.
06:04Al Albuquerque has nothing, right?
06:06He's out there with nothing.
06:06Like, do you just want to kick him while he's down?
06:08No, but I'm just saying, like, when Al has nothing, you could say,
06:12you know what, boy, Al's struggling, and I didn't have much.
06:15You know, I just, there's no life on his pitches.
06:17Instead, I was like, well, you know, Mario,
06:19he had that sore hip a couple weeks ago,
06:21and he just, he's just trying to get through it.
06:23He tries hard.
06:24Get through it right now.
06:25I was like, come on, man.
06:27Zellick knows.
06:28He's sitting here looking at him.
06:29He knows.
06:30Yeah.
06:31He tried hard.
06:31He tried hard.
06:33That's the gimme spin.
06:34You know, I mean, is Drupal Cabrera at shortstop for the Rays
06:37has the range of, you know, he's got Mazaway range.
06:41He does.
06:42Can I ask you a question?
06:43And he's going, well, you know,
06:44a great hustle there by McCann to beat that out on a pretty good play by Cabrera.
06:48Good play.
06:50He's got a pop-gun arm and no win.
06:51A serious question for a moment.
06:53How much of our audience do you think watched the Tigers last night?
06:58It's a very good question.
06:59It's a very good question.
07:00Like, you've got all these thoughts on the Tigers.
07:02I know you watched them and everything.
07:04I'm not breaking it down.
07:05But, I mean, my goodness.
07:06How many people...
07:07I'd like to keep the audience here.
07:08How many people watched the Tigers game last night?
07:11Because if the amount of people in the stands was any indication, it wasn't many.
07:16No.
07:17I mean, at one point, I texted Maz.
07:19And I'm like, remember, yesterday on the air, Maz in his updates was saying,
07:22hey, it's Razmo Ramirez against Mad Boy.
07:25And I'm in the background yelling, bang the over.
07:27I'm like, what's the over?
07:28I looked it up.
07:29It was nine.
07:30So, at 1-1 in the six, some guy tweets me.
07:32He goes, huh, nice call on the over.
07:34I go, give it time.
07:36And low and behold, an inning and a half later, we're tied at five.
07:40I'm like, ooh, the over.
07:43I mean, just give it time.
07:44No, I got my Tigers update from watching your Twitter feed and looking at the stuff.
07:51I couldn't put it down.
07:52Because I knew you couldn't.
07:53Because for me, I got my first class at Eastern today, so I'm going over the syllabus.
07:57Dude, it was like a Rubik's Cube that you couldn't solve.
08:00I couldn't put it down.
08:01And you are listening to WMGC FM HD1 Detroit.
08:04Bam.
08:05Twice.
08:0611 o'clock and 12 o'clock.
08:08Right on the button.
08:10Bam.
08:10Way to go.
08:11Booyah.
08:12Way to go.
08:12All right.
08:13Go, Leeds.
08:14Go, Beavers.
08:16It was a train wreck.
08:17I mean, really.
08:18You should be rooting for Oregon.
08:19Rico, are you not rooting for Oregon State?
08:22Seriously.
08:22Wouldn't you love to see?
08:24What am I missing?
08:24Because I was getting hammered on the text because I openly want Oregon to win the football game.
08:31Of course you do.
08:31Right.
08:32So I'm getting hammered on the text for that.
08:35And Rico should want the Beavers.
08:36It's absurd.
08:36Rico should want the Beavers.
08:37It does.
08:38But if you're a Michigan State person and you wouldn't love to see Jim Harbaugh open up
08:49his arrow 0-2, you're a liar.
08:52You're a liar.
08:53I don't think I've lived a good enough life for them to lose to the Oregon State Beavers.
08:58So I don't have any expectations there.
09:00But you would love to see it.
09:02Is this a real topic?
09:03What?
09:04I mean, I was getting killed.
09:05I mean, getting killed by the text.
09:07We had a Spartan thing?
09:09Texts, yeah.
09:10We had a...
09:10You people on text are heckling you because you want Oregon to win?
09:14Yes.
09:15It's absurd because he openly rooted for Oregon to win.
09:19And I'm like, I don't care.
09:20I mean, anybody...
09:22Hold on.
09:22Will I get a chuckle if I look and see that the Beavers beat Michigan?
09:26You doggone right, I would.
09:27Of course.
09:28You doggone right.
09:29That would make the ride up to the game, you know what, yes, it would be fun.
09:34That's like when the people call in during Michigan-Michigan State Week and they go, you
09:37know, my son graduated from U of M in 1985.
09:41We went to every game for the four years he was there.
09:44But I'm rooting for Michigan.
09:46I really like this Michigan State team.
09:48I'm going to root...
09:48No, you're not.
09:50You know what?
09:50Whenever I say that...
09:51You're not.
09:51You're a phony.
09:52People get angry at me like, you can't tell me who to root for.
09:55So you know what, you do what you want to do.
09:57But if Ryan wants to say, go Ducks, you should say, go Ducks!
10:01Rico's not going to slug you.
10:03No!
10:04Do you think I...
10:06Now, if you think for one second that Rico Beer does not, with every ounce of his soul,
10:13want Oregon State to beat Michigan, you're fooling yourself.
10:16Anybody that's...
10:17Right, exactly.
10:18I don't think it's going to happen, but yeah, it'd be nice.
10:20When Ohio State played Oregon in the national championship last night, or last year,
10:23both of you go, golly gee, I want Urban to win a title, because I'm a big team.
10:27It's good for the big team.
10:29It's good for the big team.
10:30Actually, I did root for Ohio State.
10:31Rico, you go, well...
10:32I rooted for Ohio State.
10:33You don't hate them like you hate Michigan.
10:34I don't hate Ohio State at all.
10:37Plus, Damon Webb was on the team.
10:39Right, I know you don't.
10:40So I was rooting for them because Damon was on the team.
10:43Shout out to Officer Webb.
10:45That's why.
10:46So yes, I was rooting for the Bucks.
10:48He loves reading.
10:48There is a small part of me that roots for Urban Meyer.
10:51Why?
10:52Because of my relationship with him.
10:53When he was the coach at Bowling Green, I was in Toledo at the time.
10:57Oh, okay.
10:58So there is a small part of me that likes Urban Meyer.
11:02But your dislike for Ohio State based on your Michigan history.
11:06All right, now these...
11:07It's good for the conference.
11:08These, no.
11:09If it were Michigan versus the Ducks for the national championship game,
11:12I would wear the freaking Duck outfit.
11:14Of course you would.
11:14Give me that head, and I'll walk around going quack, quack.
11:17We're getting so soft now.
11:19So soft.
11:19It's a high with the rooting.
11:21Because you have to.
11:22Terrible.
11:22Because you can't upset people, and you can't do this.
11:25No, you're right.
11:26I mean, I wanted Utah to win that game.
11:28Oh, my God.
11:28Speaking of can't upset people, okay, how many people...
11:32Sorry to change it up on you.
11:34How many people watched Venus versus Serena last night?
11:38Naz did.
11:39I did, too.
11:40The pre-show, okay?
11:42John McNamara talking about...
11:44And I thought he was going to get killed for this,
11:46and I don't even know if he did or did not,
11:48but he said it, and I thought to myself,
11:51what an innocent statement that's going to be taken the wrong way.
11:54On the pre-show for Venus versus Serena,
11:57he talked about how he played his brother.
12:00And he didn't want to lose to his brother so bad,
12:03he said, if I lost to my brother,
12:05it would make me want to jump,
12:06go walk up to the top of the Empire State Building and jump off.
12:10It's simple, but do you agree that you can't say stuff like that,
12:19or can you?
12:21Wait a minute, because I believe it was an innocent statement,
12:25but the minute I heard it, I said to myself,
12:27oh, this guy's going to get killed for this.
12:28Right, because now suicide people are saying you can't do this,
12:32what about all the cases when folks do that?
12:34Are you promoting people to walk up to the Empire State Building and jump off?
12:38Ryan, this is why you hire certain people,
12:40because you want them to be real.
12:43It's what's wrong with our society.
12:43Think about it, how many times do you listen to a certain announcer
12:46because they just give it to you?
12:49They don't sugarcoat it.
12:50People love Donald Trump, dude.
12:51And if something is bad, they'll say,
12:54that person is bad, not, well, I mean, what did he say?
12:57Gibby comes out, well, look at the way he bunted the ball.
13:00I thought last night was overly positive for a September 9th Tigers-Rays ugly game.
13:08You like a person who will just call out somebody every now and then
13:11or say something that's non-PC, so I did what you were saying.
13:16What do you think about that?
13:17That's unlike Johnny Mac.
13:20What do you mean?
13:22We've all said stuff where you're like,
13:24you know what, I could just kill that person.
13:25You're not really going to pick up a gun and kill somebody.
13:29Johnny Mac has become more PC lately.
13:31If I lost my brother, I'd want to walk up to the Empire State Building and jump off.
13:36It was awkward silence.
13:39It was, there was an awkward silence.
13:42No, see, to me, that's who Mac Monroe used to be.
13:45I think that's great stuff.
13:46No, it was good stuff.
13:47I think that's great.
13:48I think lately he's taken more of a PC stance.
13:51On things.
13:52I think he's become more respectful as a broadcaster.
13:54Because he's making more and more money through endorsers.
13:57Right.
13:58I always thought it would be the other way around.
13:59That Patrick McEnroe would feel that way about John because John was the star.
14:03And that Patrick, any chance he got to beat John would be like,
14:06Oh my gosh, I've got to finally beat him.
14:09John always beat him.
14:10John always won.
14:11John's the star.
14:11Patrick's actually a really good broadcaster.
14:13Right.
14:14You say McEnroe.
14:15Nobody says Patrick.
14:15They say John.
14:16Sure.
14:17Until you just said that I forgot he had a brother.
14:19Right.
14:20It's like that Seinfeld episode when Kramer went to the Pacers-Knicks game.
14:26And he got into a fight with Spike Lee and Reggie Miller.
14:29And the three of them went to a strip club.
14:30And the Pacers lost and Reggie got ejected.
14:33And Elaine said,
14:34I didn't know Cheryl Miller had a little brother.
14:36You love Seinfeld so good.
14:40What's Ron hitting the crickets for?
14:42Ron, you're supposed to support me.
14:44Because that was radio for one.
14:45No, that's an episode.
14:47That's an actual episode.
14:48You brought up a little brother.
14:50Your boy Les Miles from LSU joked that the SEC,
14:54they have a record 10 teams in the AP Top 25.
14:59Les Miles says they should have 25 teams in the Top 25.
15:02Oh, stop.
15:03The SEC.
15:03When SEC people get going, it's...
15:09People are talking about pride.
15:10SEC, they have conference pride.
15:13They fight each other,
15:15but the second you attack...
15:17It's SEC.
15:18We're the best.
15:19We're the best.
15:19You're nothing.
15:20We're semi-pros.
15:21You get paid enough.
15:24Pride comes before the fall.
15:28Right?
15:29No, he needs the yellow sheets.
15:30By the way, very quickly.
15:31I heard you guys talking about this.
15:32This is where I kind of want to leave with today.
15:34This San Antonio high school story is getting a little bit out of hand.
15:37Right.
15:37And I do think now, with high school football,
15:42with, I guess, the wussification of society,
15:45all of these stories are getting more magnified than usual.
15:49But the fact of the matter is, is I'm reading more about it,
15:51and I'm finding out more things about it.
15:53And yesterday, the school superintendent got up and spoke
15:57and updated everybody on what's going on.
15:59Whether this referee used an N-bomb,
16:03a Hispanic slur, whatever,
16:05against one of the players,
16:06because one of the players is Hispanic.
16:08Regardless of that,
16:09two wrongs don't make a right.
16:10And the referee vehemently denied that through his lawyer as well.
16:15Right.
16:15So, you know, I'm not ready to throw the book at these kids.
16:19They are kids.
16:20Throw the book at them.
16:21No.
16:22High school football,
16:23the fact that this took place,
16:25that a person's working,
16:27okay, he's doing his job.
16:29He's on the field.
16:30He's on the field of play.
16:32He's not to be touched.
16:33You don't tackle an umpire or a referee.
16:36He could have been killed out there.
16:37Here's what I said.
16:39Can you imagine the ramifications if they don't?
16:41And this just sets a free-pro that because it happened within the field of play,
16:46that you can do whatever you want.
16:47And you can't.
16:48That's a cripple.
16:49You could have killed this man.
16:51I don't think that he said anything because if,
16:54I was talking with Ron during the break,
16:56if it does,
16:57one of two things happen immediately.
16:59Either you just say,
17:00you're an idiot and I'm walking away from this,
17:02or it's instant retaliation.
17:04There's no,
17:05okay,
17:06I have the very next play.
17:08We're going to go and attack him.
17:09No.
17:09If you heard something,
17:11either it's an instant reaction
17:13and you just snap in the moment
17:15or you just say,
17:16you know what,
17:17you're not even worth my time
17:18and you walk away.
17:19To me,
17:20I think the team had some players already ejected
17:23and this was their assistant coach saying,
17:25go out there and get vengeance for your brothers.
17:28But what was it?
17:29Was it a vengeance or was it a racial slur?
17:31You're getting two different stories.
17:34Well,
17:34both.
17:35The team is claiming both.
17:38Okay,
17:38what football team have you ever been on
17:40where the other team hasn't heard this?
17:41This is a part of society that,
17:43again,
17:44we are at.
17:45You know,
17:45Maz is very,
17:46very vehemently
17:48against Tom Brady.
17:50Why?
17:51Because he wants Tom Brady to do what?
17:53Tom Brady to take some action of apology.
17:55Tom Brady to show some contrition.
17:58Tom Brady to show some accountability
17:59and say he screwed up and did something wrong.
18:01It'll never happen.
18:02So now,
18:03here are these kids that,
18:04instead of,
18:05whoa,
18:05they're going to get up in front of everybody right now
18:07and go,
18:07what we did was so wrong
18:08and it was the worst thing ever.
18:10Instead,
18:10they're hiding behind lawyers who are claiming,
18:12one,
18:12there was a racial slur,
18:13and number two,
18:14well,
18:14an assistant coach told us
18:16to,
18:16you know,
18:17to go get them.
18:19You know,
18:19what was the exact words the assistant coach said?
18:23Oh,
18:23gosh,
18:23what was it?
18:24I had it a minute ago.
18:25Rough them up?
18:26The assistant coach told them to,
18:28uh,
18:28take action?
18:30Uh,
18:30needs to pay for cheating us.
18:32Needs to pay, right.
18:32This ref needs to pay.
18:34And that lets me know
18:35that wasn't racially motivated.
18:36Two wrongs don't make a right.
18:39Just because this guy might have done something
18:40where this,
18:41this umpire,
18:42a referee,
18:42If the kids get,
18:43if the kids get punishment,
18:45that assistant coach should get double.
18:46Because it was his job to say,
18:48guys,
18:48we don't do that.
18:49We don't do that.
18:51We don't go down that road.
18:52Hey,
18:52join us tomorrow at 8 a.m.
18:54Uh,
18:54our new time slot,
18:558 a.m. until noon.
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19:00Guys,
19:01we'll be listening.
19:02Thanks, buddy.
19:02Deez,
19:02were you a big Roadhouse fan?
19:04No.
19:05Oh.
19:05Maz,
19:06big Roadhouse fan?
19:07Yeah.
19:08Top five movies.
19:10Roger Rousey to star in the remake of Roadhouse.
19:13Oh,
19:13I love her.
19:13She's doing the Patrick Swayze role.
19:15No.
19:16The more pictures that come out of her,
19:18the more,
19:18I like her.
19:20The more posing she does,
19:21as a model,
19:21the better she looks.
19:22You know what?
19:22She looks great.
19:23She really does.
19:24She's a hot athletic chick.
19:27No,
19:27I think she's hot.
19:28No,
19:28she's not hot.
19:29She's hot athletic chick.
19:31Have you ever seen her
19:31when she gets ready to fight?
19:32Well,
19:32yeah.
19:33Yeah.
19:33She's a hot athletic chick.
19:35I think I like that.
19:37I watched Serena last night.
19:38I'll take her.
19:41But,
19:41yeah,
19:42she's been bringing back
19:44Patrick Swayze's role
19:45in Roadhouse.
19:46Oh.
19:47Yes.
19:48I'm not making a movie,
19:49Maz.
19:50No,
19:50no.
19:51And you know who else
19:52is going to be in there?
19:53I'm Brady.
19:54I'm so kidding.
19:57Goodbye,
19:57Rico.
19:58Plate the dish.
19:58Hey,
19:59set your alarm early tomorrow.
20:01Oh,
20:02yeah.
20:02We got something to do.
20:03All right.
20:048 a.m. tomorrow.
20:05Ryan and Rico
20:06starting tomorrow.
20:07In case you guys missed
20:07the announcement yesterday,
20:08we'll be on every day
20:09from 8 until noon.
20:11Mike and Mike,
20:116 to 8.
20:12Starting.
20:12Let's go.
20:13Let's go.
20:152 a.m.
20:21Woo –