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00:00All right, welcome back. If you missed anything today, any of the interviews we did, Gary Anderson from Oregon State.
00:08The Beavers will be taking on the Wolverines on Saturday. That's up on our podcast page at DetroitSports1051.com.
00:15Nick Castellanos as well. Tomorrow, we'll be live from the Palace for the Red Cross 14th Annual Pistons Blood Drive.
00:23Desmond Howard tomorrow from ESPN as we talk a little bit of college game day with Des.
00:29Don't forget, by the way, this coming Tuesday, Tilted Kilt in Sterling Heights.
00:36Drew and Mark will broadcast live from 3 to 7.
00:38Afterwards, it's our first installment of the Football Firing Line Show, hosted by me.
00:46We got Kyle Meinke, Drew Sharp, Football Firing Line.
00:50About five weeks throughout the year, we'll do a Lions and NFL roundtable from 7 to 8.30.
00:54You're listening live from the Tilted Kilt next Tuesday in beautiful Sterling Heights right there on just off of Hall Road.
01:04From the home of the Detroit Sports fan, Detroit Sports 105.1.
01:07Have you calmed down over there over at the fight gate?
01:09No, I'm not going to calm down.
01:10You're not?
01:11Full crap.
01:11How these guys can be back working at Gillette Stadium would be the biggest embarrassment and insult.
01:19I mean, the devil, you ought to just go bury yourself if these guys come back.
01:23How can you bring these guys back?
01:26This is a 30 for 30 waiting to happen.
01:30Yes, it really is.
01:32It'll be a movie.
01:32I can't wait.
01:33What the hell is this?
01:35What the hell's going on?
01:36Now they're not going to even talk anymore.
01:38They've been shushed, paid off, hidden.
01:40Now they're getting their jobs back.
01:42They got away with it.
01:44If you're this McNally and you're just a security guy, how can he go back to work without being bombarded by cameras and microphones?
01:51If you were working, you wouldn't leave him alone.
01:54Holy Christ.
01:56Now they've got to be down the field doing security and Mazda like,
01:59Where'd you go?
02:00Where'd you go?
02:01What happened to you?
02:02Talk.
02:03Would he have to have security for himself?
02:05I'd check every freaking bank account of these guys.
02:09I would check every damn penny they'd get sent to those accounts.
02:12It all goes back to crap.
02:15Yep.
02:16Dirty, rotten.
02:18Wow.
02:20By the way, the Pete Prisco NFL rankings that we talked about earlier that has him,
02:28the CBSSports.com NFL columnist has him ranking the Lions 17th in the NFL.
02:34And 9th in the NFC.
02:36If you want to look at that entire thing, you can go to our Facebook page, Detroit Sports 105 on Facebook,
02:41and see it on there.
02:43We kind of did an informal five-caller quick flash poll.
02:48Are you on Team Miller saying Super Bowl, or are you on Team Prisco saying 9th in the NFC?
02:54And the Prisco five, it was only five callers.
02:58What a joker.
02:59The five callers.
03:01We've got three for Prisco, two for Miller.
03:03I'm going to get Prisco on.
03:04We've got to get Pete on.
03:06Slippery Pete?
03:07What's he talking about?
03:07An 11-win team, just because they lost Sue, is going to go down to 9th best in the NFC?
03:11We have already.
03:12What is he talking about?
03:12He's an expert?
03:14Pete knows his stuff.
03:15So he's a, what expert would say that?
03:18Somebody that feels like they're going to take a step back defensively.
03:21That's a big, big, big step back.
03:2311 wins to 9th in the NFC?
03:26You could still be 8-8 or 9-7 and be 9th in the NFC.
03:29By the way, he thinks Green Bay, Dallas, Arizona.
03:33All right, Arizona!
03:35Seattle, Carolina, the Giants, Philly, and Vikings are better.
03:38That's his opinion.
03:39Still no Levy, Warford, or Reed at practice.
03:42Lucas is repping with the ones.
03:44There you go.
03:45Let's see.
03:45No injury report yet.
03:47What else here?
03:47Reed and Warford did some running on the side.
03:49That's from all the guys, that report.
03:51What about, what's Levy doing?
03:54Anything?
03:55Great.
03:56He hasn't practiced in, what, two weeks?
03:57Since he signed his contract.
04:00Maybe one day.
04:00He hasn't done anything.
04:01Yeah, he might have gotten one or two days.
04:03That's trouble, man.
04:04That's trouble.
04:05And look, it's one game, all right?
04:08The Lions could go 0-1 and 1 and everything would be fine.
04:11But if you don't have DeAndre Levy out there, that's trouble, man.
04:15Then Crisco will be right.
04:16That's a good Charger offense.
04:19Phillip Rivers loves the underneath routes.
04:22That's where Levy shines.
04:23That's where he's very, very good.
04:26I know what Tear Whitehead brought to the table last year.
04:28He made the team.
04:29Disgusting.
04:29Yeah, he made the team.
04:30He made the team.
04:31Absolutely.
04:32That's good.
04:32He was playing with the fourth stringers in the fourth preseason game.
04:35He might be starting.
04:37So in other words, they mean business.
04:40The Lions?
04:41Yeah.
04:42Oh, yeah.
04:42I mean, they're pushing certain guys.
04:44I don't know if that means Travis Lewis starts or who starts in the middle for Levy.
04:50Well, actually, Levy's on the outside.
04:52It could be Travis Lewis.
04:54It could be.
04:55You never know.
04:56But it's a big step down, in my opinion, if you don't have DeAndre Levy on the field.
05:00Big step down.
05:01Well, you'll look like he's getting on the field.
05:03This is not some must win, either.
05:06I know how excited we are for Lions football.
05:08I know how excited we are for the upcoming season.
05:10But to sit here and go, oh, they lost to the Chargers.
05:13They're done.
05:14No, wrong.
05:15Every game's a must win for the Lions.
05:17Is it?
05:18Yeah.
05:19I look at their schedule.
05:20They could easily start 0-4.
05:22Don't you think?
05:23Of course they're going to start 0-4 in your eyes.
05:27No, I wouldn't expect anything else out of them.
05:29Chargers are favored.
05:31They're not going to beat the CIs.
05:31What's the line?
05:32I don't even know the line in the game.
05:33Three.
05:33Chargers are a three-point favorite.
05:35So basically, it's even game.
05:36Last I saw.
05:37Even game.
05:38Yeah.
05:38You're right.
05:41San Diego's a good team.
05:42If they lose, they're not out of it.
05:43So in that regard, it's not a must win game.
05:45But honestly.
05:46And neither game right out of the gate is easy.
05:49No.
05:49Like you said, San Diego and Minnesota on the road, too.
05:53Minnesota's no slouch.
05:55Pete Prisco has the Vikings listed in his power rankings ahead of the Lions.
05:59Do you agree with that?
06:00Yeah.
06:00Tom and I have a bet about that.
06:01Oh, really?
06:02He didn't tell you that?
06:03No, I missed it.
06:04Was it on the air?
06:04We bet it a couple weeks ago.
06:06I missed it.
06:06I told the Vikings we'll have a better record in the Lions.
06:08He's got the Vikes.
06:09I got the Brooklyn Gang.
06:11I got the Honolulu Blue.
06:12What's the bet?
06:14Steak dinner.
06:15Oh, really?
06:15No, apparently.
06:16No, I mean, whatever you are.
06:18Or whatever I want.
06:19It's dumb.
06:20If you can get out.
06:20I like Drew's hat.
06:21He's wearing it.
06:22Piston's 04 championship hat.
06:24That's sweet.
06:24It's a pretty sweet hat.
06:25I like it.
06:27Black, um, it's, uh, I don't know what this material is, but it's very nice.
06:30It's a corduroy, I think.
06:32It's a corduroy.
06:33I mean, it's a corduroy.
06:35You want to tell the guys what I called the Minnesota?
06:37Yeah, all right.
06:38So let's get this going.
06:39Go ahead.
06:39This is a WMGC-FM-HD1 Detroit, by the way.
06:42Droid marker in here for crosstalk.
06:43All right.
06:44So earlier, Mads was talking in one of his updates, and, you know, a new format we're
06:49kind of running right now.
06:49I was actually throwing it to Nick Costiano.
06:51Right.
06:51Nick was on hold, and Mads was like, oh, hey, Matt, the Tigers will be in Cleveland starting
06:56tomorrow for four, and then he got it.
06:57It would have been a soda to face the Twinks.
07:03Mads, I didn't have to say anything.
07:04I don't say anything, Mark.
07:06Does that mean anything to you?
07:08Yeah.
07:09Does that mean anything to you?
07:11Sounds like a nickname to me.
07:12Right.
07:12It sounds like a Twink.
07:13No.
07:14Come on.
07:14Mark C. Mark New.
07:15Hey, Google the words.
07:16See what pops up.
07:17You don't want to Google it, because the entire Google page is all porn sites.
07:21Twinks.
07:21It's all Twinks.
07:22It's all porn sites.
07:23And the Wikipedia of what Twink is.
07:27It's just like, we're not calling the Twins for years.
07:29You called them the Twinks?
07:30Yeah.
07:30Yeah, see, I didn't know that either.
07:32I always thought people would call them the Twinks.
07:33There were many people called the Twinks.
07:34Really?
07:34Yeah.
07:35Now, tell us, Drew, what it means.
07:36It's a younger male.
07:40You know how in certain genres of porn, like gay porn, they like bears or seals?
07:47Sure.
07:47Twinks is another one.
07:48It's a slang term for a young gay male.
07:51So I got the text line.
07:53Like a pre-gay.
07:54Pre-gay male?
07:54Well, no, they're gay.
07:56Let's just say they're of age, but they tend to be as close to of age as possible.
08:00Not Greg from Curb Your Enthusiasm.
08:02Okay.
08:02These are teenage, gay teenage boys.
08:05But what about when the Lions play the Bears?
08:08What about them?
08:08You don't know what a bear is?
08:09No.
08:10You would be a bear.
08:11I had always, I had heard Twinkies or Twins.
08:17I'd never heard Twinkies.
08:18I'd never heard Twinkies.
08:19We're called Twinkies, too.
08:20So I'm not allowed to call the Minnesota Twins the Twinks anymore.
08:22But you can do whatever you want.
08:24You can do whatever you want.
08:25I'm telling you.
08:25He looked at me.
08:27He like said, what did you say?
08:29Easy, big fella.
08:30And then I went to Nick.
08:30And then I went Nick was on hold.
08:31What the hell are you talking about?
08:33Did Nick hear it?
08:33Yeah.
08:34Did he laugh?
08:35No.
08:35I just went into, hey, how you doing?
08:37I didn't say, hey, Nick, do you know what Mads called the Twins?
08:39I don't even, I don't, Nick's only 23.
08:41I do, Drew, I don't know what it was.
08:42He's just like me.
08:44Look, that's what pops up, Drew, when you Google Twinkies.
08:46Yeah, I mean, it's all porn.
08:48It's all porn.
08:49Oh, you don't have it on there?
08:50No.
08:50All right.
08:51Joey, I'll put it off there.
08:52Throw air one up there.
08:54I'll just read it to you.
08:55Twinks videos, page one.
08:57Very Twinks tube.
08:58Cute Twinks.
09:00Tom, which one do you want me to click on?
09:02No, you're not clicking on them.
09:03Click on the Urban Dictionary.
09:05You don't want me to click on this one?
09:07No.
09:08Twinks blanking.
09:09Oh, lovely.
09:09All the sites come up.
09:13There's Pornhub.
09:15There's, what's the other one?
09:16X-Videos.
09:17Oh, they're all there.
09:19VeryTwinks.com.
09:20Maz is calling them Muhammad Sano and Miguel Sano and Tori Hunter.
09:26That's awesome.
09:26I've never heard that.
09:27Like you said, I've heard Twinkies for the episode team.
09:30Yeah, we're Twinkies, but it's over Twinks.
09:32You have.
09:34Absolutely.
09:34Believe me, man.
09:35I'm not lying.
09:36I've been doing it for years.
09:37Unknowingly, of course.
09:40I'm not on the same issue.
09:43You imagine when man's working for Michigan Radio Network, maybe, he was tossing it back
09:46to Frank Beckman.
09:47He was like, Frank, the Tigers in action tonight against the Twinks.
09:50Back to you.
09:51What did he just say, Jim?
09:52I don't know.
09:53I've done that, and believe me, they don't know what it is.
09:54I was going to say, that might go over Frank's head, but as soon as he finds out, oh boy,
09:58will he get dressed down.
09:59He will not be real happy.
10:00Say it, Lime.
10:01Oh, man.
10:02Say it, Lime.
10:03Those GOB guys, they want none of them to do with that.
10:05By the way, the term, according to Wikipedia, dates back to at least 1963, and may be derived
10:10from the oldest British term, Twink.
10:13I was only one year old back then.
10:14That's why I missed it.
10:15That's good stuff.
10:18Well, I just thought I'd tell you guys that story.
10:19That's adorable, Tom.
10:21I figured you'd like that, Mark.
10:23Why would I like that?
10:25Drew, how about this?
10:27The deflators are getting their job back.
10:30Yeah.
10:30Who called that?
10:31I'm getting it for them.
10:32I'm getting it for them.
10:33Is this a, that's a disgrace.
10:35Why?
10:36Well, I, but I don't want to see those guys.
10:37If nobody else is suffering a penalty, why should they, of all people?
10:41Because they did it.
10:42I know they did it.
10:43And the NFL is going to give them a job back.
10:46Where does it say they did it?
10:47Why do you think the guy's name was thinking the deflator?
10:50They just lose the weight.
10:51Oh, okay.
10:52If you buy that.
10:53I know, people say that all the time when they're losing weight.
10:55I'm deflating.
10:56I wonder how much he lost, by the way.
10:58Look, they could have, they made money.
11:00They clearly could have got a confession out of him, but they didn't.
11:03They barely interviewed him.
11:04We just had Tom Leidenon, who now works in Boston.
11:06He says these guys have literally been off the map for eight months.
11:10Oh, yeah.
11:11It's been a nice vacation.
11:12What, no one could find them?
11:13They found them last week, and the wife came out and gave a thumbs up.
11:18Yeah, they went to the house.
11:19They went to the house.
11:20So they're something like Bartman, like Steve Bartman.
11:22Correct.
11:22They went to Bartmanville.
11:24And why is that?
11:25I don't know.
11:26I guess they didn't do anything wrong.
11:28I guess nothing happened.
11:29They hit five months because there was nothing wrong.
11:31Nothing happened.
11:32That's very strange.
11:33The big question yesterday was who fired these guys.
11:36They were suspended.
11:37Right, because Goodell told Mike and Mike he had nothing to do with it.
11:40Well, he flat out lied again.
11:44According to the Boston Herald, the NFL said to the Patriots, are you going to suspend him,
11:47or are we going to?
11:48Right.
11:48So the Pats were like, well, I guess we kind of have to.
11:51So I guess by the letter of the law, no, he didn't lie, but they were going to be suspended
11:54anyway by the NFL, based on no evidence.
11:56So these guys who took the ball to the imaginary bathroom to deflate him, and now they could
12:03do it again.
12:05They're going to get their job.
12:05They're going to prove they deflated him.
12:07No, I don't.
12:08I think if they get their jobs back and nobody interviews them or they're not accosted by
12:11any media, we should fly Maz up to a Patriot home game and go down to the sidelines and
12:16talk to him himself.
12:17He wouldn't be able to handle it.
12:18I think that'd be great.
12:19Who, Maz?
12:20He'd have an aneurysm.
12:21That'd be great.
12:21Just landing in Boston.
12:23I wouldn't have an aneurysm.
12:24I would.
12:24You just hate that area.
12:25You know, honestly, though, Maz, should they suffer?
12:27If nobody else is going to be punished, why should these two and nobody?
12:30Someone must suffer besides me.
12:32Someone must suffer besides me.
12:35Suffer besides me.
12:36If it's not going to be Tom Brady.
12:38You suffer for your suit, though.
12:39If it's not going to be Tom Brady or a player, should somebody need equipment?
12:42I mean, should one of those guys.
12:43Hasn't they suffered enough?
12:45They've been without pay for eight months.
12:46They've suffered.
12:46They've got Swiss bank accounts.
12:48I'm sure they've got money to keep quiet.
12:50There's hush money.
12:51I wish M.L.
12:51Elric was out.
12:52More assumptions.
12:53I wish he was out.
12:54Yeah, that would be nice.
12:55More assumptions.
12:56Him and Charlie LeDuff out there, they would sniff these guys out.
13:00We should get Ross Jones out there.
13:01Oh, my God.
13:02But nobody's looking to sniff out against the Patriots.
13:05Nobody's going to run the Patriots down.
13:06They'll get to run out of town.
13:08The boss don't.
13:08I want to see the money trail that these guys have gotten in the last ten months, nine months.
13:14I want to see the money trail.
13:15Well, you'd think there'd be an enterprising journalist who would do that.
13:17Yeah.
13:18I guess not.
13:19Maybe not.
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13:25We've got the Dave Shore big announcement for a big event we've got coming up.
13:31Dave Shore's making the announcement tomorrow.
13:33He's coming in here.
13:34He is?
13:34Yes, he is.
13:35Yes, really.
13:36There's not enough microphones in this room.
13:38I'm going to be at the palace.
13:39I'll be at the higher broadcasters.
13:41Broadcaster.
13:42So Dave will be right here on this one.
13:43What's the blood drive?
13:44Red Cross Pistons blood drive.
13:47Nice.
13:47So we'll be out there tomorrow.
13:49Dave's coming in tomorrow at three.
13:53I'll clean up the place.
13:55Yeah, right.
13:55We'll be out there.
13:56Then I will run back here to see you guys.
13:59You're not going to be in any hurry.
14:03And it's three of...
14:12You're not going to be out there.
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