00:00I'm Rob, and this is my part for Kai.
00:02We get judged because my BF became my GF.
00:06I'm going to get a consultation about an injectable boob job.
00:11I think you need to go bigger, to be honest.
00:13I was in a 16-year relationship with two of my children's mum.
00:17So if he's a man, would that make this a gay couple?
00:20Society is doomed.
00:22Kai doesn't really get affected by judgement.
00:25People look in, people comment in.
00:27Get out of my way.
00:29The woman that's walked into the lamppost, it's my fault.
00:32It's not my fault because you were staring.
00:34How old were you there?
00:35I don't even know.
00:36He was so old.
00:37How about here?
00:38Look at the hair.
00:39Wow.
00:40Literally remember you looking like that.
00:42Uh-huh.
00:43So we met five years ago because Rob sent me a message on Facebook.
00:48And I aired him for a week.
00:49And then he was on My People You May Know.
00:51So then I actually finally messaged him back.
00:53When we met, we just got on pretty much straight away.
00:55Wow.
00:56That's a whole beard.
00:57That's crazy.
00:59I actually looked at Kai and thought, damn, he's a b******t.
01:02I'm going to have some fun here.
01:03I'm not going to lie.
01:04I liked his aesthetic, and I say his because obviously we're talking past tense.
01:09What's that age behind there?
01:11This one?
01:12Yeah.
01:13That's...
01:1425?
01:1525.
01:16Oh, so that was when we first got together, wasn't it?
01:17Mm-hmm.
01:18And then that's me now.
01:19Beautiful.
01:20It's nice to look back on the memories and see how far I've come.
01:24You're not the kind of person to disregard that, are you?
01:27You'll still embrace the history and the past rather than wanting it to be gone.
01:33Within two months of us being together, I proposed to Kai on a beach in Gran Canaria.
01:37And you kind of didn't directly say yeah, but you didn't say no.
01:41The rest is...
01:42It's history.
01:43It's been a roller coaster.
01:44I was in a relationship prior to Kai with a man.
01:48And previous to that, I was in a 16-year relationship with two of my children's mum.
01:53When I initially kind of came out, so to speak, I never really looked at or found anything
01:59about trans women interesting.
02:01Kai kind of opened my mind up to that.
02:03At the start of our relationship, we didn't get any judgement because it was just obviously
02:07two men in love.
02:09So there wasn't any negativity online, there wasn't any trolling on social media.
02:14It wasn't until I came out.
02:16So if he's a man, would that make this a gay couple?
02:19I knew it was a man by looking at him.
02:22Gross.
02:23Sicky faces.
02:24We love the sicky face.
02:25Mental health is getting out of control.
02:27Society is doomed.
02:29You're going to hell, all pretty.
02:31Ha ha ha.
02:32This man thinks he is a woman.
02:33Looks like a freak.
02:34Halloween is only on the 31st, not all year.
02:37Have you noticed that they're all blank profiles and people with no pictures most of the time?
02:42Since dating Kai, I've learned a lot about myself in regards to kind of how fluid sexuality
02:48can be.
02:49People ask me what I identify as and literally I just identify as Rob and me.
02:54Because for me, my sexuality doesn't define me.
02:58Technically speaking, it would be looked at as pansexual.
03:02You don't care about the gender, you don't care how the person presents, your interest
03:05is in that person, like into the soul and the energy of that person as opposed to what
03:10they've got in the knickers.
03:11A few people have actually said to me, because they didn't understand how my sexuality worked
03:17for me, they'd be like, well, are you still going to be attracted to Kai when he becomes
03:22a she?
03:23And to be honest with you, I was like, I genuinely don't know.
03:25I love Kai for who Kai is.
03:27So for me, in my mind, it was like, it's not even an issue, but you don't know until you
03:32play it out.
03:33It's not really changed a lot for me, to be fair, from an attraction perspective.
03:36So the comments we get online about our relationship would be that Rob's a gay man, just because
03:42that's just something that comes with being with a trans girl.
03:45They just automatically think about what you've got downstairs.
03:48People that are gay would generally say, well, why don't you just go with a man?
03:53And people that are straight will say, well, why don't you just go with a woman?
03:56But because of my standpoint on it and how my mind works, it's irrelevant to a man.
04:01If I get trolled or hateful comments towards myself, it doesn't affect me.
04:05But when I see the comments towards Kai, it makes me really angry and I struggle to control
04:09it.
04:10I think it comes directly from gay men, and LGBT is all about understanding and acceptance.
04:15I don't agree with some of the behaviour from the masses of that community, and I just keep
04:21away from it, to be fair.
04:22So the comments online, we never doubt the relationship.
04:25We just kind of take it with a pinch of salt, laugh it off.
04:28My friends and family reacted positively to the relationship, as long as I'm happy.
04:34A couple of my friends were worried that he could have been a chaser.
04:37The person that kind of struggled to come to terms with it the most was my dad.
04:42The whole thing with regards to my sexuality, I was in a relationship for 16 years with
04:46a woman.
04:47My dad was like, well, hold on a minute, what's happened?
04:49And I can remember I took Kai to meet my dad, and they got on really well.
04:53It was Father's Day.
04:54Father's Day, and my dad turned around and he says, son, when you get married, can I
04:57be your best man?
04:58And I had tears in my eyes, you know, like, that's my dad, who still doesn't understand
05:02it, but you know what?
05:03He rolls with it.
05:04Four years ago, I started medically transitioning, and then about a year, I started to present
05:10more female on a daily basis, out and about in public.
05:14I wasn't nervous to tell Rob that I was wanting to transition.
05:18I wasn't nervous to tell anybody, really, because everyone I've been so lucky is just
05:22so open-minded when I come into their lives.
05:26The procedures I've had done so far are facial feminizing, treatments with fillers and Botox.
05:34Rob supported me through my transition with learning, being understanding.
05:40When it comes to surgeries, he's really supportive with reminding me, like, if you're taking
05:45your hormones, don't forget.
05:46So we've both kind of learned it together.
05:49So we're going to go to Racer Beauties today, and I'm going to get a consultation about
05:54a injectable boob job.
05:57So when we're walking through the streets in public, Kai doesn't really get affected
06:01by judgment.
06:02People look in, people comment in.
06:03You can have a look at someone, but they'll look, and they'll stare, and they'll walk
06:07into things.
06:08I've had people walk into cars, lampposts, bins.
06:10We've been pushing the pushchairs into lampposts and all sorts.
06:13He still observes it, whereas I'm going to get my chicken baked, get out of my way.
06:18The woman that's walked into the lamppost, it's my fault.
06:21It's not my fault because you were staring, just go about your business and let me get
06:24my chicken baked.
06:25Like, I'm good.
06:26We're good.
06:27I feel slightly more overprotective now she's transitioned into a female, whereas before
06:31when she was a boy, I didn't feel that way.
06:33Kai thinks she's indestructible, and I know that there are nasty people out there that
06:38can act in a certain way.
06:40I'm excited for the consultation.
06:41I'm looking forward to learning a little bit more about it.
06:45It's going to be such a life-changing thing for Kai.
06:47It's such an important part of the transition.
06:49So from that perspective, I'm really excited for her.
06:51Hey.
06:52Hi, babe.
06:53How are you?
06:54I'm good.
06:55How are you?
06:56I'm good, thank you.
06:57Good.
06:58You all right, bro?
06:59How are you doing?
07:00I'm fine, thank you.
07:01Looking at getting the breast filler treatment done.
07:04Okay, so what sort of size was you looking to go?
07:07I don't know.
07:08I haven't got a clue.
07:09I don't know.
07:10You know I want them big.
07:11Okay.
07:12Yeah, of course.
07:13So we could put the maximum of 40 mils in at a time.
07:16However, six weeks later, you can add to that once the filler has settled.
07:20Perfect.
07:21It swells, so it attracts the water.
07:23So you would have an extra 50% over the period of six weeks after the treatment.
07:28Yeah, yeah, yeah.
07:29So they'll double?
07:30They'll double, yeah.
07:31Amazing.
07:32Yeah, and that would be your final results.
07:33I feel better.
07:34I was stressed this morning.
07:35Good, good.
07:36But I feel a lot better.
07:37That's good.
07:38With all the questions.
07:39So what I'll probably do is drop you a text or give you a ring, and we'll just get booked
07:42in as soon as possible.
07:43Okay, yeah.
07:44Well, I look forward to hearing you on, doing the procedure.
07:45Excited.
07:46I can't wait.
07:47How comfortable do you feel with the potential size that you're going to achieve?
07:48I think you need to go bigger, to be honest.
07:49They're going to be bigger than my ego.
07:50They're going to be this big.
07:51We're going to have to see.
07:52We're going to have to see.
07:53We've spoken about and considered maybe getting married and all of that stuff, but as it stands
08:07at the minute, what we're trying to do is build a bit of strength, a bit of structure.
08:10The biggest thing is seeing where this transition goes and that journey, and we'll just kind
08:17of roll with it, and what happens will happen.
08:18A little message for those judges?
08:19Keep doing it.
08:20message for those judges. Keep doing it because we keep proving you wrong.
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