00:00Hello, how are we doing? It's a bit of a random one really. I was going to wait until the
00:08morning but I always think if you wait on these things like you lose where you're up
00:14to. So I just wanted to pop on. Obviously, over the last hour or two, quite a few people
00:22have popped up and expressed interest, expressed sympathy or feelings based on the programme
00:36that has just been aired on the BBC. I appreciate a minute for 30 seconds. We did a five hour
00:46interview some months ago now, in the spring, and those five hours have turned into 30 seconds.
00:56I can safely tell you they are the most, possibly amongst the most difficult 30 seconds I've
01:04ever had to watch. But I just wanted to say a few things on the documentary. They're more
01:10thanks than anything. So I want to just say a big thank you to Rogan Productions who are
01:16the company who made this programme for the BBC. They were incredibly kind, incredibly
01:23understanding and very respectful of what it is that we spiritualists do. I also wanted
01:34to extend my thoughts and my love to Nicola's mum and dad, Dot and Ernie and Louise and
01:43obviously Nicola's partner Paul. For what has no doubt been a very, very difficult time,
01:51going back through all of that, raking it up and having to air the difficulties that
01:58they faced at the loss of their loved one at that time. I just want to send my thoughts
02:07as well to my dear friend who helped me on that day. I know for myself, and I'm certain
02:14for her, the finding of Nicola will forever be a part of our life. It will be something
02:24incredibly difficult for her as it is for myself, but nowhere near as difficult as obviously that
02:35was for Nicola's family. And one day her children who will have to grow up without the physical
02:43presence of their mother. So that's two things. I want to say thank you to the production company.
02:50They were very, very good in what they did and I appreciate how politely they approached
02:57me and dealt with what was a very difficult discussion. I already thanked Lancashire Police
03:05at the time, but I thank them again for the open-minded nature in which they took on board
03:15my own part in this story, tragedy, not quite sure which word is appropriate. But I also
03:24just wanted to send two extra thank yous, which are unknown thank yous really. It was
03:34mentioned in the five-hour recording that we did, but obviously not mentioned tonight.
03:38So this is why I've come on tonight to just say this. Just want to say a huge thank you
03:43to the committee and president of Blackburn Spiritualist Church. That is where we facilitated
03:52the recording of this interview. And it's also the place where myself and Nicola's family
03:59and my good friend met together shortly after Nicola's funeral. And I cannot thank them
04:09enough for the discretion, for the kindness, for the privacy that they showed to myself
04:17and to Nicola's family, and the very caring way in which they opened the church to us
04:22to be used. And I also want to thank, unbeknownst to many people, the spiritual circle of Saddleworth
04:31Spiritualist Church. Saddleworth Church is near where I am based. And the night before
04:40I went to obviously recover Nicola's body, we all sat together in a circle. There was
04:48at least 20 of us who sat in a circle. We all sat together in a circle. There was at
04:56least 20 of us who sat in a circle. We all sat together in a circle. There was at least
05:0520 of us who sat in a circle together, sending love. I don't know who these people are, but
05:14I don't know how to... Some people have just popped up. But I just want to say a huge thank
05:21you to the spiritual circle of Saddleworth Church, who sent so much love, so much kindness,
05:29so much energy to help us. Because these things, the finding of a missing person, it's so much
05:36harder than people think. It's harder on you mentally. It's harder legally, obviously.
05:44There are legal implications. But the energy required is so much more. And so thank you
05:49to Blackburn Church for opening its doors to myself and Nicola's family and allowing
05:54us to sit together for such a long time and discuss issues that will forever remain between
06:03me and her family. And to Saddleworth Church and its circle, who sent their love, their
06:10energy, their spiritual ability into the universe to allow for these things to happen.
06:22Feed isn't great, but I appreciate... I don't know how to go live. You'll notice I don't
06:26go live on TikTok ever. But here I am, just because I appreciate people reaching out to
06:33me, as they have done this evening. I want to say I am absolutely fine. I am absolutely
06:37fine. Nicola and her family are the main thing in this whole situation. And if you
06:46just watch the programme, it's very tastefully done. And I have to say thank you for at least
06:50putting myself in the programme. It's a nod, I suppose, to the spiritual community that
06:57we can do good. And I confess, as much as part of my involvement was to help Nicola
07:05and help her family, another part of my involvement was to stop psychics and spiritual people
07:13from trying to cash in on what is a lady's tragic ending and a family's immense pain.
07:23Those are the two reasons I got involved in this. One, to help her family, to give her
07:28parents peace of mind, to give her children the knowledge of where their mother had gone.
07:35And the second, to stop cranks, for want of a better word, cashing in on her and her
07:43life and the way in which her life came to an end, in the physical sense. Now, I'm not
07:51here to tell you anything deep and personal about myself or deep and personal about Nicola.
07:57The only thing I hope is that in the fullness of time, when I pass from this world and move
08:04into the next world, I only hope that Nicola will be amongst those people who I meet.
08:19I only hope that she will be amongst the people that I meet when my own life ends and that
08:26we can greet one another and be friends with one another, as she is such a huge part of
08:32my life and she will forever be a part of my life in this sense. And I only hope that
08:41she can appreciate that I have done everything I can to protect her memory, to protect her
08:48family in the best way that I am capable of doing, and that she will be happy in the way
08:55in which, for my part, I have dealt with this situation. And I'm sure there will be
09:04other people who I have helped to come home, waiting, but Nicola is the one who I really
09:12do pray she will be stood there and be like, hiya Jay, nice to meet you at long last. Since
09:18the only time we have ever met each other is my living self to her deceased self. And
09:26you can't, I will say this, I apologise, I'm trying to word it very carefully. There's
09:31very little I have more to say about it. I'm so glad that the documentary has been put
09:39together so tastefully. I really didn't want to be in it. And so I'm only grateful that
09:48it's such a sort of short moment. Because, you know, talking to dead people is such a
09:53mind blowing thing. And, and it can, it's so complicated. And I could talk for hours
09:58and hours about the situation. There is an interview, I have done one interview with
10:08Psychic News. It is a written article by a very, very well established spiritual journalist.
10:19And that will possibly be published over the next few months. It is the only interview
10:25I have done. The only one I suspect I ever will do. And it will go into, I assume from
10:35what the gentleman who interviewed me did, it will go into the spiritual side of finding
10:41Nicola rather than any of the personal aspects of it. I will just say also a huge shout out
10:51to Gisla from Grizzly True Crime. She was actually one of the very, very few TikTokers,
11:01YouTubers, who was really genuinely very nice about me at the time. And so I really
11:06do want to just say a shout out to her because she is genuinely a lady. And I've watched
11:11some of her videos since. And she's always very respectful, always tries to stick to
11:16the facts, and was actually one of the only ones who didn't accuse me of being like a
11:19demon worshipping Satanist, or a murderer. And so I thank her for that. I'm so glad that
11:25she got some airtime in this documentary because she really did show the best, the
11:32very best of TikTok, YouTube, etc. Besides that, guys, that's all I've come to say. I
11:41don't want to stick around too long because I'm conscious that I talk bullshit a lot of
11:47the time. Like I say, I talk too much. I just start saying things I don't need to talk about.
11:52That's all I'm here for. Just want to say thank you for reaching out, those of you
11:55who have. I'm totally okay. I really, really just hope you send your thoughts and your
12:03love to Nicola's mum and dad and her sister and her children and Paul. For what is a difficult
12:11time for them at this moment. It's all come back. Oh, Sarah Louisa. I'm not sure. I didn't
12:24mean to send an invite. I'm not sure who Sarah Louisa is. And I really feel like I should
12:29if I helped you with yours. I'm really sorry, my darling, if my brain is escaping me. It's
12:36not where it should be today. But I hope that came to a successful conclusion in whatever
12:43way a successful conclusion can be in these matters. I'll leave yous with the love. God
12:51bless yous. You know, let me just say this before I leave yous. Spiritualism, spirituality,
12:58psychics and mediums. Some of us are really, really lovely people. Really genuinely lovely
13:06people. Spiritualist churches are a beautiful place. They're filled with so much kindness,
13:12so much love. Then there's people like me who are kind of in the middle. We can be twats
13:16and we can be nice. It depends what day of the week you catch us. And then there can
13:21be some awful people who will literally, you know, reach out to a family who are in
13:27trauma and tell them the most dreadful things about what's happened to their children. You
13:32know, they're tied up in an attic being abused by drug dealers and all sorts of things like
13:37that. And my final, my final word. If you do see a missing person post on your Facebook,
13:45please share it. 18,000 people a year go missing. 18,000. They're all somebody's loved
13:56one. They're all somebody's family. Somebody will be going to bed tonight wondering where
14:02their grandson is, wondering where their son is, wondering where their daughter is. And
14:07your post could be the difference between them never being found and being brought home
14:18in whichever way it ends up being. And I confess, I personally cannot help everybody. I get
14:25so many requests for people who want me to find their passport or want me to find their
14:32dog or their cat or want me to find their, or want me to find their, their brother or
14:40their sister, their mother, cousin, friend, et cetera. And genuinely, if I could help
14:48every single one of them, I would do. But, you know, I'm not Jesus. I'm not anything
14:56particularly gifted. But in this one particular case with Nicola, we were lucky, quote unquote.
15:07And in finding Nicola, I did the most incredible thing and the most terrible thing in my whole
15:13life. You know, I can't explain how, how amazing it is to think that, you know, I walked to
15:22a river one day and stood there and waited for somebody's body to turn up based on the
15:28idea that an invisible person had told me to go and do it. And at the same time, the
15:32real genuine realisation that you were about to take some family's hope away from them
15:38by confirming their worst fears. I'll leave it there. Leave yours with love. Thank you
15:46for watching. If you haven't watched the programme, maybe do. Nicola deserves a good airing
15:52to see her on video, how she really was. Not just the pictures that were shared at the
15:57time, but videos of her, hear her voice, see how loving and kind she was, see how much
16:05her mum and dad love her and obviously miss her still. I'll leave yous with that because
16:13I'm going to start crying if I don't. Tetti, bye.
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