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00:00:00 just to survive.
00:00:02 Oh, it takes spirit deep inside.
00:00:07 We always shy, yeah.
00:00:10 And I could say exactly why.
00:00:13 - And good morning, everyone.
00:00:14 And that's the voice there of one of the US independent senators, not so,
00:00:19 Helon Francis.
00:00:20 So, a very special good morning to the senator.
00:00:23 You know, we usually play a lot of his music here.
00:00:26 And I think that, you know, we'll make an overture to see if we can make
00:00:31 contact with the senator.
00:00:32 It's going to be interesting to hear his perspective on a number of things in
00:00:38 Trinidad and Tobago, yeah?
00:00:40 So, good morning again.
00:00:41 Good morning, Trinidad and Tobago and the rest of the world.
00:00:43 As always, I'm Marlon Hopkins.
00:00:45 And welcome to The Morning Edition.
00:00:46 It's Thursday, 14th September, 2023, yeah?
00:00:51 So, the dash has started.
00:00:53 You know, you want to know what dash I'm speaking about?
00:00:55 The dash to Christmas, not so.
00:00:57 Some of you already soaking fruits and so on, right?
00:01:01 Right?
00:01:03 So, I guess, well, if that's what makes you happy, yeah.
00:01:06 As people say, life is short, and the way everything is going these days,
00:01:11 for some of us, it's even a little more shorter, right?
00:01:14 So, let's check out what's happening in the Daily Express for today.
00:01:17 On the front page, Judge directs Office of the Prime Minister,
00:01:22 release Smith sex reports.
00:01:25 And the picture there, wear it right, a police inspector adjusts a hat on a recruit.
00:01:30 WPC Jammot at the police service, passing out parade at the police academy,
00:01:36 St. James Barracks, yesterday.
00:01:38 And let's check out what's happening on the back page of the Express this morning.
00:01:43 TNT duo suffer again in Masters.
00:01:46 Johnson hits another ton for West--
00:01:50 that's West Indies, right?
00:01:52 Under 19s, yeah?
00:01:54 And Benedict's Shocker, Premier Div, champs beaten by San Juan in SSFL Openers,
00:02:01 San Juan North Secondary, did what no one could do last season,
00:02:05 defeat St. Benedict's College and the Premier Division of the Secondary Schools Football League.
00:02:12 All right, so that's what is happening in sport.
00:02:15 It's time to remind you about Trinbago United's feature.
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00:02:27 A very good morning to all of our viewers who continue to send in your videos and photographs.
00:02:33 And you know what?
00:02:34 Make sure and put your name so that we can say a special good morning to you for your efforts, right?
00:02:41 We do appreciate your efforts and we do appreciate your viewership and we do appreciate your support.
00:02:47 So we do have a lot to discuss on the program today.
00:02:50 We are going to a very short break.
00:02:52 We are coming back.
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00:04:30 Anger is one's enemy.
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00:04:43 Come, darling, you're looking for a ticket?
00:04:45 How much are the tickets?
00:04:46 Five hundred dollars for the tickets.
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00:04:59 Hello, where you get them tickets from?
00:05:00 Hello, I get my tickets from the birds.
00:05:02 What birds?
00:05:03 The earlies.
00:05:04 What?
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00:05:09 Look, Miss Lady, if you want proper tickets, you need to go to all southern food basket stores.
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00:05:20 Don't worry about this, madman.
00:05:21 And it's only two hundred dollars.
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00:06:11 And welcome back everyone.
00:06:13 So we are going to be continuing our discussion this morning on some of the things that the President of the Republic,
00:06:18 Christine Kangaloo, would have said at the ceremonial opening of Parliament.
00:06:22 One of them, she spoke about the crime situation and she called on parliamentarians to unite in this fight against crime.
00:06:30 So we do have on the line this morning, Professor Ramesh Deosaran.
00:06:34 Professor Deosaran, as always, thank you very much for joining us.
00:06:38 Thank you.
00:06:39 Thank you, Maran.
00:06:40 Thank you.
00:06:41 Thank you and greetings to your viewers and your staff.
00:06:44 Yes.
00:06:45 Professor, well, you have had, just like the rest of all of us, you have had the time, I suspect,
00:06:53 to think about what the President would have spoken about at the ceremonial opening of Parliament.
00:07:04 And what we would like to do, Professor, is to benefit from your experience as a criminologist,
00:07:14 also to benefit from your time also as an independent senator as we discuss this issue this morning.
00:07:24 So, Professor, as I said, you have had time to think about some of the things that the President would have said.
00:07:31 What are your impressions this morning?
00:07:34 You are quite right, Maran.
00:07:37 Apart from my academic knowledge and research and reading the textbooks in crime and public safety,
00:07:44 my experience in Parliament has taught me several important things, which are very relevant to what we are discussing this morning.
00:07:53 What we are talking about this morning is really a life and death matter, with the home invasions,
00:07:58 the murders, the serious crime rate, the low detection rates,
00:08:02 and the police not apparently being equipped to deal with these challenges.
00:08:07 What the President said in terms of coming together, both opposition and the government, raises a very critical issue.
00:08:16 We have to consider there is an opposition in the Constitution, not a temporary one, a permanent one,
00:08:23 meaning the opposition is entitled to constructively criticize the government to silver the check and balance.
00:08:34 On the other hand, the government, with its resources, taxpayers' money,
00:08:38 will have to spend the money accordingly and in the public interest.
00:08:42 The matter of crime brings all these issues to a head.
00:08:46 Here you have crime as the hottest political topic the country has ever faced, given the fears, the epidemic of fears.
00:08:57 And the President is asking that both parties, opposition and government, to use our words, come together to deal with it.
00:09:06 What does that mean, Maran?
00:09:09 If the opposition gets together with the government on this hot topic, they will likely, in political terms,
00:09:16 lose the advantage in not coming close to winning the next elections.
00:09:22 That is what the opposition is all about by definition, to serve, constructively criticize,
00:09:30 and possibly enter the realm of government when the time comes.
00:09:35 The government, on the other hand, recognizing how shaky they are in terms of crime,
00:09:40 will want to defend this position and stay in power.
00:09:45 So you really have a contradictory position here in terms of coming together to fight crime.
00:09:53 If the opposition joins with the government, joins, that is what people are asking for,
00:09:59 and the government wins the election, there will be no benefit in terms of party politics or the opposition.
00:10:08 What I would suggest is that rather than bringing its crime plans to Parliament
00:10:15 and then asking the opposition to unite or join, that is not practical.
00:10:22 What the government should do, Maran, is meet the opposition before Parliament,
00:10:28 sit down privately, and present its crime plans to the opposition.
00:10:34 At the same time, we have to remember the opposition might have its own crime plans too.
00:10:39 So let them both meet privately, three on one side, three on the other side, discuss the plans,
00:10:45 the fundamentals, the details, the operational aspects.
00:10:49 So when you bring it to Parliament, they would have already joined.
00:10:52 So then, Professor, you're saying that this can happen and it can work for the benefit of the country.
00:10:59 Well, that's what I'm pressing forward to. So we cannot make the announcement about joining and getting together.
00:11:04 We have to operationalize the idea in terms of what I'm saying so nobody will lose political advantage.
00:11:11 Because this is a heated political issue, and while the wishes might be there,
00:11:16 the manifestation of the wishes are more important, according to you,
00:11:20 because the public is crying out for help. Let them meet before, without any political grandstanding,
00:11:26 get together privately, sign off on the deal, as mature politicians want to do,
00:11:32 and then bring a joint announcement to Parliament.
00:11:35 We have agreed on the bail bill, we have agreed on the death penalty,
00:11:38 and therefore we want Parliament to be informed, as well as the President, who is head of the Executive in Parliament.
00:11:45 So that is the route we should take, and we should stop grumbling, quarreling, and do the right thing for the public benefit.
00:11:52 Well, following the President's announcement, the Prime Minister was quoted as saying that,
00:12:01 well, the headline in the Daily Express was that the Prime Minister was not hopeful.
00:12:07 The UNC said that it was ready and willing to cooperate.
00:12:11 That's according to the opposition leader and former Prime Minister, Basdur Pandey, is quoted as saying they are at war.
00:12:18 How you expect them to cooperate? You expect the opposition to cooperate with the government to make them win the next election?
00:12:26 And I suspect that's what you were speaking about earlier, Professor.
00:12:30 I am trying, Raatma, to solve the dilemma in the most practical way, and that is the most practical way.
00:12:36 The Prime Minister, Dr. Keith Rowley, and his government must show the leadership now.
00:12:41 The ball is in their court, first of all.
00:12:44 The opposition cannot call them and initiate this exercise of joint partnership.
00:12:51 The Prime Minister should now invite the opposition, within a week or two, following the President's advice,
00:12:58 and have a meeting with them first, come to an agreement, and bring it to Parliament.
00:13:06 Then you can exchange ideas, but not with the animosity that usually surrounds a very important topic like crime.
00:13:15 So if the Prime Minister wishes his dream to come true, to prove Mr. Pandey wrong, and to support the President's wishes,
00:13:22 he should call the opposition before, and both parties should meet and come to an agreement,
00:13:28 or whatever prime plan the government has, because the government will have to tell the opposition,
00:13:34 and even itself, what precise issues you want us to deal with.
00:13:38 What are the precise issues, rather than an umbrella concept like crime?
00:13:43 So the government has to do a lot of work to initiate, and in my view, my respectful view, to show leadership.
00:13:51 And then the public will now recognize who is who, and what is what.
00:13:55 And if the opposition denies that invitation to begin the discussion in a partner way,
00:14:02 well then the public will have to judge.
00:14:04 Professor Summers, seeing this as a golden opportunity, yeah?
00:14:08 You used the correct word. That is the word I had in mind.
00:14:11 This is a golden opportunity, not only for dealing with crime, but if it does succeed in the way that the public expects,
00:14:19 we can deal with the health issue the same way.
00:14:22 Because we are in a crisis, you see.
00:14:24 We can't follow slavishly the Westminster system without having the ethics that support the Westminster system.
00:14:33 We have a lot of bad behaviors in terms of governing the country.
00:14:38 There's always a quarrel. Every little thing is a quarrel, not with crime.
00:14:42 This is a life and death matter, and the public expects much better from our elected officials.
00:14:48 And that's why I'm suggesting a way out.
00:14:50 I would not use "join" or "unify" because those are too strong words now.
00:14:56 Because if you want them to join, which you want to form one party,
00:15:00 I would prefer to use the word "compromise."
00:15:04 A healthy, gracious compromise on both sides to meet together.
00:15:10 And I insist upon this because there is no other proper way, according to what Mr. Pandey is saying.
00:15:15 The Constitution is not about country, you know. The Constitution is about party.
00:15:20 And we really have to commit ourselves to showing that we can really put country first before party.
00:15:27 And the proposal I am making to meet early and discuss it and finalize it and then bring it to Parliament
00:15:33 is really putting country first and party after.
00:15:36 Because if you leave it open, each one will want to get political advantage.
00:15:41 We have to diffuse that ambition and do the proper thing in the way I am suggesting.
00:15:46 Professor, why do you think that these – well, let me ask it this way.
00:15:53 Because prominent persons in the past have made certain comments about the crime situation
00:16:01 and about the hardships that the citizenry is going through because of this crime situation.
00:16:08 But there is a feeling this time, there is a perception this time,
00:16:13 that this statement being made by the President is really hitting home.
00:16:21 And it has a level of weight to it.
00:16:27 Is it because – if you agree with that – is it because you feel it is what is happening in society now?
00:16:36 I mean, we have gone over 400 murders for the year already.
00:16:40 And on the surface, it looks like there is no let-up in this whole situation.
00:16:49 What the President did was quite timely and important.
00:16:55 And we are happy that he has seized the initiative to put that issue on the table.
00:17:01 And the whole country is now awakened, much more than before, given what she has said.
00:17:08 Now, usually they would go on opportunity. I think you are quite correct.
00:17:12 This is a golden opportunity for the elected politicians, opposition and government,
00:17:18 to exercise what their oath of office said, to do the right thing without fear or favor in the public interest.
00:17:27 That is their oath. But they have been living, more often than not, outside of their oath.
00:17:33 Now is the golden opportunity for them to exercise the oath of office they have taken
00:17:40 and let the public judge because this country is severely divided.
00:17:46 This country has been for a long time. You use the word golden opportunity.
00:17:51 This is a golden opportunity to show the possibility of unity in the essentials.
00:17:57 And it will downstream the public will all recognize what is possible in terms of nationhood,
00:18:04 in terms of the national anthem. So the leadership must come from the Prime Minister, first of all.
00:18:09 And it should be taken up by the opposition leader, Ms. Kamala Prasad Bissessa, and move forward.
00:18:15 And I am anxiously awaiting, like many others, to see whether the Prime Minister would invite the opposition leader
00:18:21 to a meeting privately, get together, get on common ground, make the compromises that are necessary now
00:18:30 in the interest of a country, not in the interest of one party or the other, and move forward.
00:18:36 If the golden opportunity is lost now, well, then the public will have to judge.
00:18:41 And I don't know what will happen afterwards. I hope it doesn't get more tragic than it is already
00:18:46 because we are over 400 murders so far. And that is a disaster for a small country like this.
00:18:52 We have big countries, much, much bigger, with just about 100 for the most, 50, 60.
00:18:59 If you look at the figures in New York and you compare to Trinidad and Tobago, you will see the disaster we are in.
00:19:05 So this is a national emergency. And I would implore the parties in Parliament to do what is right.
00:19:12 And the quarrelling must stop in this matter of crime. Get together quickly, bring the issues to Parliament afterwards
00:19:19 on common agreement, and let the public judge and move forward.
00:19:23 And you know, Professor...
00:19:24 What you have to do, you have to deal with the police, you have to deal with the courts, you have to deal with the detection rate.
00:19:29 There are a lot of things you have to deal with. And a joint effort will really help, Marlon.
00:19:33 This is a golden opportunity.
00:19:35 Professor, you know, some people are already saying, because we have gone over 400 murders for the year,
00:19:41 I know that the police, they have been touting, "Well, we have some things that we are working on,
00:19:48 and they believe that things will improve." But some are already saying,
00:19:53 "This 400 that we have experienced here, it's just a precursor to another 600 murders for the year."
00:20:04 Do you have that view?
00:20:07 I have that view, because the circumstances around each murder, each woman's vision,
00:20:14 and the response by the police, and the government position, the Prime Minister recognizes that, you know.
00:20:26 He has given some ideas about how disturbed he is, and apparently he doesn't seem to know what to do anymore.
00:20:36 You give the police resources, you have to do more, these cameras on the streets, is that an important thing?
00:20:43 Look at what is happening. Last, I have a column on Sunday, on a news day.
00:20:49 I recall the issue of license plates for motorcars. That's a critical thing.
00:20:54 You have thousands of private dealers making license plates overnight.
00:21:00 That hampers police investigations.
00:21:03 When you catch a criminal escaping, and you look at his car, and the license plate is not his,
00:21:10 it's a stolen license plate, or it's one made overnight, fabricated.
00:21:17 What could the police do after that? They have no way to trace the origins of the crime.
00:21:22 And even if you put these gadgets on the police cars to trace the background of the car, the background of the criminal,
00:21:30 this will be a deficit in terms of police investigations.
00:21:34 So what I'm saying, there are so many things to do that governments, one after the other.
00:21:40 This is not a PNM issue only. It's a political culture that has been subverting the interests of the public for many years.
00:21:48 So with that history of the UNC in power not doing what it should have done, and the PNM now faced with this challenge,
00:21:55 they both have some guilt to compensate for, therefore get together.
00:22:00 We're not innocent as we think. I'm not pressing the point, but I'm just showing you the urgency of the issue.
00:22:06 We are in a national state of emergency when it comes to crime.
00:22:10 And the people are fearful, the businessmen, every business organization has been complaining about the effects that crime has been having on its business.
00:22:19 It's not only economic, Marlon, it's social. People are not going out as before.
00:22:24 You can't run in the parks as before. It is psychological, because people are getting stressed.
00:22:29 Children are frightened to go to some schools. I wouldn't call the names.
00:22:33 The parents are worried because you have had bullets flying near schools and so on.
00:22:37 So it is economic, it's social, and it's psychological.
00:22:40 Professor, what is needed right now?
00:22:43 Well, Marlon, let me repeat. What is needed right now?
00:22:49 Before you speak about police resources and so on, patrol, more patrol cars and so on.
00:22:54 Let the government and the opposition get together as the president suggested, but not in Parliament.
00:23:02 Yes.
00:23:03 Meet first, get together, find common grounds, and both of you come to Parliament and shake hands and present that plan jointly to the public.
00:23:14 Yeah, because I think that...
00:23:15 Don't leave each party to be seeking political advantage and subverting the public interest.
00:23:20 Yeah, because I know that people have been calling out the citizenry.
00:23:24 They have been calling out for something to be done almost immediately about the crime situation,
00:23:30 because, of course, it has been having a toll on them for a number of years now, Professor.
00:23:36 There have been constant calls for a state of emergency, gun amnesty, things like that.
00:23:43 Would you support another state of emergency?
00:23:47 I know that the government, that this government in particular, sees that as really a last resort, so they are quite hesitant to do it.
00:23:59 But if we are to get assistance almost immediately, is that an option?
00:24:09 Marlon, I don't think so.
00:24:11 That is... There should be a name for it.
00:24:14 That is a knee-jerk response in the circumstances.
00:24:17 You need to have something more sustainable.
00:24:19 Remember, we have had a state of emergency when the UNC was in power, and that ended up in a disaster.
00:24:26 The government had to pay money and so on. It didn't work. It didn't work.
00:24:30 And what we have suggested, if you are suggesting a state of emergency now, that would work.
00:24:35 I would want to see what I have suggested before, and if that doesn't work,
00:24:40 well, then the public itself might want to... There will be an uproar in the public mind if that doesn't work,
00:24:46 because it is near to a disaster now.
00:24:50 But I am suggesting a healing effort.
00:24:52 My proposal to meet early before you come to Parliament and work it out is a healing effort,
00:24:58 and I wouldn't like them to miss what you have called a golden opportunity to show on each side their political mettle,
00:25:05 their political maturity. If they are talking about country before party, this is an opportunity, Marlon,
00:25:11 for them to meet quietly before they come to Parliament and then present a joint plan,
00:25:16 as the President is wishing for, to the public and to Parliament.
00:25:20 So there are things we can do. We can do. We are not entirely helpless.
00:25:24 It is late, but Marlon, it is not too late.
00:25:28 Don't let it be too late.
00:25:30 Professor Deusarun, for yet another time you have shown your mettle, as you put it earlier.
00:25:36 So thank you very much again, Professor, for your perspectives, your views on this matter.
00:25:44 And I think it's really food for thought. And thank you again, Professor.
00:25:49 Thank you, Marlon. Thanks a lot for being with us.
00:25:52 Bye for now. So we are going to a very short break. We are coming back.
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00:30:29 Alright, so welcome back everyone.
00:30:31 So September is Adoption and Foster Care Awareness Month in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:30:36 The Children's Authority is currently promoting kinship foster care as an alternative placement arrangement to traditional foster care.
00:30:44 So two representatives are here from the Children's Authority and they are Anjali Tiwari De Fage,
00:30:50 and foster care team lead, and Avion Thompson, Children's Services Associate.
00:30:57 Good morning ladies.
00:30:58 Good morning.
00:30:59 Yeah, ladies I hope I didn't butcher your names.
00:31:02 You're okay.
00:31:03 But it's always good to speak to you all.
00:31:07 I know that some months ago we did speak about foster care and so on.
00:31:12 So it's always good to continue our discussion on this issue.
00:31:17 Anjali, let's speak about the issue of kinship foster care.
00:31:21 What is it?
00:31:22 Sure, and I'm going to start just to let the nation know, I'm going to talk about adoption first, then foster care, then kinship.
00:31:28 So a lot of persons actually mix up foster care and adoption all the time.
00:31:31 So we try to kind of start with that.
00:31:33 Adoption is permanent, foster care is temporary.
00:31:36 So what we're looking at is those temporary homes where we're working with parents in the background,
00:31:40 but children are placed in a stable, safe home.
00:31:43 Kinship foster care is we're actually looking at supporting relatives.
00:31:48 So we're actually placing children with people who they're familiar with.
00:31:51 So it's not as traumatic, you know, and it still is temporary because we are still working with parents and family in the background.
00:31:57 Hoping that eventually we can place those children back.
00:32:01 So kinship is really about supporting those family members.
00:32:04 And Avion, have persons been really embracing this concept of kinship and foster care in Trinidad and Tobago?
00:32:14 So as we are now formalizing kinship foster care, we're now getting the word out there.
00:32:19 So this is part of our campaign to really get the nation aware of what kinship foster care is.
00:32:25 And I believe that it's been a slow start, but I think the more that we continue to do this awareness, this outreach to Trinidad and Tobago,
00:32:34 I think more persons will begin to buy into it.
00:32:37 So I'm hoping that it picks up soon.
00:32:39 So it's a sort of education drive that you all are on right now to get the support for this sort of exercise.
00:32:47 So traditional foster care actually has been around for quite some time, since 2015.
00:32:52 But we're now formalizing kinship.
00:32:55 So whereas before, with traditional foster parents, we can have anybody from the public come and get approved as a foster care provider.
00:33:01 But with kinship, it's specifically towards relatives.
00:33:05 Yeah. How, for persons who are looking at us right now, how do they get involved if they want to be a part of this exercise?
00:33:14 So we really want, specifically with regards to kinship foster care, we want persons,
00:33:18 if it is that you are a parent and you are struggling and you're unable to care for your children,
00:33:23 but there are family members who could really use a helping hand and help you out, care for your child.
00:33:28 If there's any child protection concerns in the home or that child is exposed to child protection issues, give us a call.
00:33:35 Let us have a look and chat with you.
00:33:37 Investigate whether the relatives are up to scratch, if they meet our criteria.
00:33:41 Or if you are a relative who has a child in care, whether it's foster care, whether it's in a children's home, give us a call.
00:33:49 Let us chat with you and see if this is right for you.
00:33:51 Is kinship foster care new?
00:33:53 It is new. It has been in the legislation, the Community Residences Foster Care and Nurseries Act.
00:34:01 But we've only recently begun formalizing the process in terms of creating the policy to guide the process along to ensure that we,
00:34:10 what we put out there is what we actually want.
00:34:13 And it's been, again, around for just a few months now.
00:34:16 So we've only recently begun the process of approving just a few kinship foster parents.
00:34:23 And as I said, as we go along and we continue along with this drive, we will, we hope to get more.
00:34:28 And we really want those relatives, whether it be, and the relatives, it's somewhat specific in terms of it being an aunt,
00:34:36 an uncle, brother, sister, step parents, grandparents, whether it be whole or half blood.
00:34:42 We want those relatives to come forward if you have a relative in care.
00:34:46 Yeah. Why is there a need to formalize this?
00:34:50 Well, if you think about it in Trinidad and Tobago and in the Caribbean as a whole, kinship is something that we do by nature.
00:34:56 It's something that we've done for centuries.
00:34:58 You know, a cousin, a sort of, you know, distant relative comes to stay with you for a short period because mommy and daddy couldn't manage.
00:35:05 And that's something that we want to support. We want to foster.
00:35:09 We want persons to really think, you know, this is something instead of palming it off and saying, oh, can't deal with our child, put them in a children's home.
00:35:15 That seems to be our sort of default now as a nation.
00:35:18 We want persons to really think, you know, I really don't want that, you know, Johnny to go to a children's home.
00:35:24 I want them to stay with us, stay with family if possible.
00:35:27 We will give you those tools, that support as necessary to be able to do that.
00:35:32 So it shouldn't be a struggle. We don't want it to be a struggle.
00:35:34 We want that to be our first port of call before we resort to alternative care.
00:35:38 But there's also a need to police this thing and put a structure in place so it is done in the right way for the benefit of the child.
00:35:48 Correct. Yes, definitely.
00:35:50 And we, as the authority, we work in the best interest of all children.
00:35:54 We need to ensure that the process, the guidelines, that everything is how we want it to be to ensure, as you rightfully said, that it's, again, it's formalized.
00:36:03 It's more or less, it's done in a way where not only it benefits the children, but also the relatives as well.
00:36:11 And as my colleague said, we provide that support.
00:36:14 It's not that we place the children and then we let go.
00:36:18 It's a team, it's a village, and we work together in the best interest of the child.
00:36:22 Earlier, you spoke specifically about certain relatives, the aunt, the uncle and so on.
00:36:33 Why are you being specific about certain relatives who you believe are the most appropriate to deal with this situation?
00:36:48 Sure. At this time, as you know, we are again, we're now formalizing it.
00:36:53 So we decided to really start with this grouping and that's what the legislation had in terms of these persons because we don't want just any and everyone more or less coming forward.
00:37:05 We want responsible people who can deal with it.
00:37:07 Correct, yes. And the process in approving these persons is very thorough where we do home assessments, suitability assessments as well.
00:37:15 And we again, we have to apply for a certificate of character from the police as well.
00:37:19 We do our community inquiries and we really get in-depth information from the applicants, from their support system as well.
00:37:29 And we really ensure that the person who they say they are, are they, and also that they are willing to provide, that can accept the support from the authority.
00:37:40 Yeah. Anjali, let's speak a little bit about that because there are checks and balances in place.
00:37:46 Definitely. So I know we would have mentioned before we are going to be supporting persons.
00:37:50 So in addition to checks and balances, we will be monitoring.
00:37:54 So whether it be home visits, school visits, doing supervised access with relatives where necessary.
00:37:59 We take children to their therapeutic intervention, medical visits.
00:38:03 So we are very involved. It's not like we're just leaving this child as Abhiyan said.
00:38:07 We are working with you, holding your hand through the process, but we are also providing that support.
00:38:12 So whether we are providing financial support specifically to the needs of the child.
00:38:17 So when we do our checks, we're making sure that you can financially take care of yourself.
00:38:21 We are providing you with counseling, with mediation, with training.
00:38:25 So it really is a process. It's not as informal as we've always done it.
00:38:30 And the reason being, we want to make sure that children are being cared for properly, you know.
00:38:35 And I want to stress that this is not just for any old relative who is taking care of a child.
00:38:40 We're talking about the relatives who need support for children who are at risk of child protection issues.
00:38:45 So they've been removed from abuse or neglect. We're looking at those children and those relatives.
00:38:50 Not just if you're an aunt or uncle or grandparent who is taking care of a child fine, and you need no support, then it's no issues.
00:38:56 It doesn't have to get a children's authority involved.
00:38:59 How serious is the need for foster care in Trinidad and Tobago?
00:39:05 Well, currently there is a placement crisis ongoing within Trinidad and Tobago where the need for placement
00:39:13 more or less far outweighs the potential placement options that we have.
00:39:17 Whether it be in the children's homes, foster care itself.
00:39:21 So we really have to push this drive beyond adoption and foster care awareness month
00:39:26 for the persons of Trinidad and Tobago to become aware of foster care and kinship foster care as well.
00:39:33 Yeah. Anjali, we just have about a minute again.
00:39:37 Again, how do people get involved? How do people contact the Children's Authority?
00:39:42 Sure. So if somebody is interested, if you are a relative or even if you are somebody who is interested in traditional foster care,
00:39:48 give us a call on 627-0748, extension 40988, or you can email fostercare@ttchildren.org.
00:39:57 Yeah. Avion, any final words?
00:40:00 Just again, it takes a village and let the authority be a part of that village in taking care of a child.
00:40:06 Let's go back to that time.
00:40:07 Yeah. Ladies, always a pleasure having you on the Morning Edition.
00:40:11 Thank you very much for the information.
00:40:13 And as I said earlier, I hope that you all get the support that you all need because, Avion, as you said, it's a serious situation.
00:40:23 Yes.
00:40:24 Yeah, of providing foster care for a number of children in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:40:27 Again, ladies, thank you very much for coming this morning.
00:40:29 Thank you.
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00:43:06 So welcome back.
00:43:13 PAVI is a non-governmental organization which, since established in 1995,
00:43:18 has, as one of its mandates, provided rehabilitation adjustment to blindness training
00:43:24 to many persons who during this period lost sight
00:43:27 or who lost their sight in the areas of orientation, mobility, daily living skills and counseling.
00:43:34 Well, to tell us more are Bawani Prasad, president of PAVI,
00:43:38 and Shameka James, CEO of Burn Team Global Limited.
00:43:44 Bawani, Shameka, good morning.
00:43:47 Good morning.
00:43:50 So Bawani, I understand that you want to be the opening batsman here this morning.
00:43:56 Of course. With consistency I shall repeat.
00:44:00 Bawani, let's get into this. Tell us about it.
00:44:04 Before you do that, let me say good morning to our listeners and viewers.
00:44:07 I say listeners first because oftentimes you all forget that we have people who are driving in their cars and listening
00:44:13 and you all forget that we have people who are blind and visually impaired and listening.
00:44:17 And when you put that tape across the team, it creates problems for me.
00:44:22 Right. So on a serious note, PAVI this year, we have decided to team up with Burn Team Global
00:44:29 for what we call a charity boat cruise.
00:44:32 This is a charity event, as I said, and it will take place on October the 14th.
00:44:37 But Shameka will give you more details on that.
00:44:40 She's the Burn Team Global lady.
00:44:42 What I want to say about PAVI is this year we are celebrating 28 years as a non-governmental organization
00:44:49 involved in work of and for the blind.
00:44:52 And we are raising funds so that we can continue our rehabilitation adjustment to blindness programs.
00:45:00 We have found over time that a lot of people are losing sight for one reason or the other.
00:45:06 Either it's glaucoma, cataract, retinitis pigmentosa, and more importantly, diabetes.
00:45:14 We know that there's a heavy population of diabetes in our country so that we know that people are losing sight.
00:45:21 But we at PAVI believe strongly that there is life after blindness.
00:45:25 You can still continue to perform.
00:45:27 You may not be able to do it as you used to.
00:45:29 You can't drive a car, obviously, until we have those driverless cars on the road.
00:45:34 But what we try to do is to encourage the families to continue to support.
00:45:38 Because, you know, I always believe in this philosophy, "Till death do us part."
00:45:42 And if you're married and your spouse develops a problem, whether it be a disability of one kind or the other,
00:45:48 you should not give up. You should not throw in the sponge.
00:45:51 You should continue living because that's the mantra of the wedding vows, "Till death do us part."
00:45:57 So this is why PAVI is here and PAVI is providing services.
00:46:01 In fact, we were the organization responsible for the voting card template,
00:46:05 which is now used by the EBC very extensively and very efficiently for blind and visually impaired persons to vote alone.
00:46:13 So that is one of our main, you know, advocacy initiatives.
00:46:19 But we continue to serve. We have not been receiving government subvention for a while, since 2015 or '16 or thereabouts.
00:46:26 But we continue to do what we can, give them our limited resources and our, you know, capacity to deliver.
00:46:33 Yes. All right.
00:46:34 This is why the vote quiz is important. And I ask Shemika to fill us in.
00:46:39 Yeah. Shemika.
00:46:40 No problem.
00:46:41 Morning.
00:46:42 Go ahead.
00:46:43 Good morning, everyone. Good morning.
00:46:45 So the name of the boat cruise, the cooler, you know, the charity cooler cruise is Vision.
00:46:51 Right. So this is our first charity cooler cruise with PAVI.
00:46:56 And this event is on Saturday, 14 October.
00:47:01 And we will be aboard the Liquid Launch.
00:47:05 We are boarding at 4 p.m. and sailing at 5 p.m.
00:47:09 We have tickets specifically for persons with disabilities at $200 and individuals at $250.
00:47:19 And, of course, we have the group packages of five, which is $1,125, and group packages of 10, which is at $2,000.
00:47:30 Now, the funds that are raised from this event will be contributing towards, you know, the development and enhancement of the programs that PAVI has in place.
00:47:41 All right. So we're really looking forward to everyone's support.
00:47:45 Come out, have fun.
00:47:47 It is going to be a safe space for persons with disabilities, as well as anyone else who feels, you know, a little bit shy and they want a safe environment to really enjoy themselves.
00:48:01 This is the event to be at because it's going towards a worthy cause.
00:48:06 I mean, after the budget, Marlon, you need to be to de-stress, right?
00:48:11 Yeah.
00:48:12 So the boat cruise is the idea.
00:48:14 Let me say one thing, that people from the East-West Corridor, if you are making the journey, we are trying, we want to arrange transportation at your cost.
00:48:23 We'll tell you minimal cost so that you can get to San Fernando because many people don't know how to drive to San Fernando.
00:48:30 So we're going to put a transportation system in place to make sure that you get on board and you get with the program.
00:48:36 Yeah. But, Wany, I think you're talking about me.
00:48:38 I really don't know how to get to San Fernando.
00:48:41 So that's good that you're putting that in place.
00:48:44 I remember, I remember, Avie Sinhil, when she was on A at one time, she said she took 10 rungs around the interchange by cross-crossing before she found where she was going.
00:48:56 And I know that could be very tie up.
00:48:58 Of course. Shemika, how has the response been thus far?
00:49:03 It's really, really wonderful because persons, because there's a purpose behind the charity pull-up rules, persons are definitely on board with it.
00:49:13 So I want to speak up.
00:49:15 Well, of course, all the members who are organizing this, so we want to shout out Candice, who is the vice president of FABI.
00:49:24 We want to shout out Shirlan Tuffy, who is the incorporator and one of the directors of Burnt Team and Sonali Bartholomew, also another director.
00:49:34 Right. I know some persons may wonder who is Burnt Team.
00:49:37 Well, we are really a health and fitness company and we promote, because we promote health, fitness and wellness, we have a variety of programs that will assist.
00:49:52 And that's why we're really doing this. We really, we know what FABI is about and we said, you know, let us do this.
00:50:02 Now, I know some persons may wonder how they will get their tickets.
00:50:06 All you have to do is actually WhatsApp or call FABI's office at 220-1073 or Candice at 271-9655 or myself at 346-8730.
00:50:23 And we've made it very easy, where it says the tickets will come directly to your home.
00:50:28 Bhawani, let's bring you back in here. And I want to speak specifically about the challenges that the visually impaired experience in Trinidad and Tobago.
00:50:42 Do you think that, because I know, Bhawani, that you have been speaking about this for a number of years now.
00:50:49 Has there been some progress in providing a better environment for the visually impaired in Trinidad and Tobago?
00:50:59 All right. Since I have been knocking the pavements for more than 50 years, there has been some improvement.
00:51:05 We have continued to champion the cause and there is a slight change in attitudes.
00:51:12 We have technology on our side now. It's a little costly for many persons, but we have it.
00:51:17 And we can use it effectively to navigate our way around and that kind of stuff, even using the computer and screen readers and all of that.
00:51:24 So there has been some marked improvement. But, you know, two things remain outstanding.
00:51:29 Some people's attitude, you know, they believe that if they talk to a blind person, they might get blind.
00:51:35 Or they believe why blind people should come out and enjoy themselves, why they don't stay in a corner.
00:51:41 We still have that kind of attitude, but it's changing slowly but surely.
00:51:46 And with time, as we continue to advocate, as we continue to champion, we hope that, you know, things will get better.
00:51:54 It wouldn't get worse, but it will get better. So there has been some improvement.
00:51:59 But, you know, and let me be very, very blunt here, Bhawani, you know, there are some people in Trinidad and Tobago
00:52:06 who feel that the only thing that a visually impaired person can do is to make basket, eh?
00:52:13 Yeah, well, that was a norm many years ago. Today we have some of them in open employment.
00:52:19 We have some at the ministry. We have some in different things. Some of them are setting up their own enterprises, et cetera.
00:52:26 So given the fact that education is now more widely extensive and available,
00:52:33 I think a lot more persons with disabilities, blindness included, will have the opportunity to be significant contributors in the future.
00:52:41 I hope in 20 years' time, Marlon, the number of persons who receive disability grants will be far less
00:52:47 because more persons will have had a proper education and more persons would have been properly and fully and gainfully employed.
00:52:55 So you feel the society is more embracing now?
00:52:59 Yeah, well, I mean, with education and people traveling and that kind of stuff and seeing what's happening out there, you know,
00:53:06 but you still have to continue to battle on because you have to tell the powers that be, we need A, B, C, D, E, you know.
00:53:14 But with all of that said, I think we're slowly but surely beginning to accept persons with disabilities for who they are
00:53:22 just as charity cases, as we said, today we're using the rights model on disability and not the charity or medical model.
00:53:29 Yeah. And the reason why I asked that question, Bawani, we do have one friend in common.
00:53:34 I'm not going to call the individuals.
00:53:36 Ah, you know, we'll talk about it. Don't worry.
00:53:39 Right. And I have seen him try to maneuver through Port of Spain and try to get home.
00:53:46 So I would have asked those questions, you know, because of my experience with him.
00:53:52 Shamika, let's get back to the fundraiser.
00:53:56 Yeah. Any additional information you'd like to share with us?
00:53:59 Yes. So we have we will be having door prizes.
00:54:03 We will have Jello shots and we will have DJs, Lucky De Glory, Dubb Bender and Juicy on board with us.
00:54:12 All right. We want persons to know just come out, have fun and wear blue if you can, because we are celebrating World Pride Day.
00:54:22 Right. So if you didn't know, now you know we are celebrating World Pride Day and our colour for that day is blue.
00:54:29 All right. So remember, tickets, 200 for persons with disabilities, 250 for individuals, 2 for 5, $1,125.
00:54:41 And a group of 10, $2,000.
00:54:45 Luani, I'm going to give you the final comment. We have about 30 seconds.
00:54:50 Yeah. Well, in 30 seconds, I will say people support the work of PAVI, support the work of the community of persons with disabilities.
00:54:57 Let's stand together because no one knows what your future holds.
00:55:00 You might be well today and disabled tomorrow.
00:55:03 So let's think and let's be our brother's keeper and let's think and work and play together.
00:55:09 Yeah. Shameka, thank you very much for speaking with us this morning.
00:55:12 Buwani, thank you for your contributions over the years.
00:55:15 No problem, Marlon.
00:55:17 All right. Bye for now. So we are taking a very short break. We also have the 7 o'clock news headlines for you.
00:55:22 Coming back.
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00:55:31 Good morning. I am Ansel Gibbs with a news update.
00:55:36 The Tobago Arm of the Chamber of Industry and Commerce wants a meeting with the THA's chief secretary and other stakeholders to discuss the current Seabridge situation.
00:55:48 We also want to ask upon the minister of works and his technical team, including the NITCO board, for an urgent meeting so that they can meet with us,
00:56:00 the Tobago Chamber of Commerce division, and as well as other stakeholders.
00:56:06 We ask upon them to accept our request for an urgent meeting to discuss the Seabridge issues going forward.
00:56:14 We're going to write the chief secretary, sir.
00:56:16 Also asking for the chief secretary input and the Tobago House of Assembly's input as to what's going forward with that.
00:56:25 The Tobago House of Assembly is the government on the island led by Mr. Augustine, and they should be part of the sea as to how we go forward with the cargo vessel.
00:56:37 Transport minister Rohan Sinanan tells TV6 News he welcomes a meeting with the Tobago Arm of the Chamber.
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01:00:15 Welcome back everyone. So we are discussing right now boxcar intercall. Yeah?
01:00:22 Yeah. I had the same feeling too. Yeah, so we do have Andre Critchlow. He's director. Mr. Critchlow, thank you very much for coming this morning.
01:00:34 Yeah, thank you very much for having us and good morning to all the viewers and listeners on the CCN TV6.
01:00:41 And I think why my eyebrows were raised, Mr. Critchlow, is that box, the boxcar has always been a part of Trinidad and Tobago, countries such as these, the culture.
01:00:58 It has always been a part of child life. Yes. If I can put it that way.
01:01:05 So when I heard boxcar, I'm thinking, is that what we're speaking about? Well, yes, basically it's the same thing.
01:01:12 Yeah. It's an evolution where we have tied academic component to the boxcar experience.
01:01:19 So you're probably, well, you're kind of a little too young to know about this part, but boxcars were designed to move water up and down hills.
01:01:25 OK. And then the youth, as usual, innovation, fun, they start to race them down the hills. Yeah.
01:01:30 So basically they're powered by gravity. So in an international realm, they're called gravity races.
01:01:37 So what we've done is we've pegged the academic component to it where the building of the boxcar can now be submitted as part of the SBA.
01:01:46 So they have things like the physics, the math calculations, even the art interpretations, because there's a creative component to it.
01:01:55 And that, along with the actual building and testing of the boxcar, you know, I can't go wrong with that.
01:02:02 That's a win-win situation. Learning doesn't have to stay in the classroom.
01:02:06 But with that being said, though, the engineering department in the U.S., they have seen the value in it.
01:02:11 I mean, other institutions in the U.S. have been using STEM to promote a different way to teach and learn.
01:02:17 Not everybody could sit down and memorize formula. Right.
01:02:21 And because of this, they decided to partner with us and actually host the launch for the Boxcar Intercult, which is going to be next week, Friday, 2 p.m. onward.
01:02:30 Open to the general public. Yourself, figure some time. I know you have a busy schedule.
01:02:34 Come through, see the carts, interact with a couple of the students. Some of the teachers hear about their experiences.
01:02:40 You know, it's something we're very, very proud about that we've been able to do that transition from just pure fun to teaching and learning with fun.
01:02:50 But, you know, you are right, because we have seen excuse me.
01:02:55 We have seen the boxcar really transcend to other countries.
01:03:04 And we're seeing we're seeing hundreds of people coming out to look at these races with the boxcars.
01:03:16 And you said that the event is when again and what time to the launch launch.
01:03:21 You we engineering department, the professor Ken Julian building.
01:03:25 It's in the undercroft from 2 p.m. onward until we get tired.
01:03:31 I suppose the students are coming out with some of the cards and display.
01:03:34 We have some other sample cards as well as signups for all the secondary schools in Toronto.
01:03:39 They have been invited. So we're hoping that we get a good tune out, get the public engaged, let them see that there's more than just the boxcars.
01:03:47 And you remember, yeah, totin water. All right. Some of these machines are very well designed.
01:03:52 So you mentioned just now internationally. So, yes, in the US, it's called soapbox derbies.
01:04:00 Yes. And our brand of that is very different. We still have a very creative component to it.
01:04:08 We're not limited by a set kit that the soapbox derbies do.
01:04:13 So the students get to explore basically from inception to the actual practical thing.
01:04:20 That is what sets us apart from it. Not to mention the cultural history.
01:04:25 Yes. This again shows that these are things that were developed and they got better over time.
01:04:32 Through a natural process of, well, the STEM learning, they've learned that, OK, from steel ball bearings to something with other inflatable like bicycle wheels,
01:04:41 makes it move easier. And then you realize, hey, if I put a seat on this, this could be fun.
01:04:45 And then you have steering. So there's a whole lot of things that they've learned from a practical application.
01:04:51 So they've actually been learning academia without even knowing it because of the fun factor involved.
01:04:57 We have just basically capitalized on that. And I say capitalized loosely in that we have pegged the build process and grading process
01:05:07 to the curriculum that they have for a number of disciplines.
01:05:12 For instance, I have a teacher in Bishop's who's harassing me saying I did not include a judging section for IT.
01:05:20 It's like, what IT have to do with building a boxcar?
01:05:23 And then I was schooled where she says, well, you know, there's spreadsheets to build, there's calculation sheets that can be done.
01:05:30 And she's actually been applying that to her class as well.
01:05:34 Presentation, Mr. Bisou, he was here recently and he's talked about it.
01:05:39 He's been using it in his technical drawing class. When they draw the boxcars, they were able to submit that as part of the SBA.
01:05:46 So in all that sense, the fun component, again, as we see, it's learning doesn't have to stay in the classroom.
01:05:53 Of course. And it should be considered more of an intracurricular activity as opposed to an extracurricular activity.
01:05:59 Yes, there's an element of gladness is what I like to call it. But there's academia that's going to be judged as well.
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01:08:58 We are continuing our discussion on the Boxcart Intercall.
01:09:01 We do have Mr. Andre Critchlow.
01:09:04 He's here with us this morning to speak a lot more about it.
01:09:07 This is something that I'm seeing that the Ministry of Education is supporting and has embraced.
01:09:13 Most definitely.
01:09:15 We can't go out the secondary school system without permission and endorsement from the Ministry of Education.
01:09:20 So we have the Ministry of Education on board endorsing and supporting it.
01:09:23 They've seen the value in it.
01:09:25 I mean, we're using principles of STEM, which is, I like to call, the next generation of teaching and learning.
01:09:30 Right?
01:09:32 And the Ministry of Sport as well has got involved.
01:09:34 They've seen value in that we're coming in, we're treating it as a sport because there's competition involved.
01:09:39 There's a physical component, the actual racing of the carts.
01:09:42 That's how we test the performance.
01:09:44 We hope to see you in our cart sometime soon for that process, of course.
01:09:48 We also have digital sellers on board supporting us, NGC.
01:09:55 Trinituner.com has come in to the fray as well.
01:09:58 They have supported us with a landing page.
01:10:01 So if you want to get more information, it's trinituner.com/boxcart.
01:10:07 You can register your cart there for all the schools and everything, as well as get a nice overview of where we are with the competition.
01:10:14 And I have to say, with regard to competition, we're very proud in that the competition is designed in such a way that it doesn't offer a competitive advantage for resource or gender, for that matter.
01:10:27 We've had all girls' teams from Arima Central that competed against the very best of them.
01:10:33 And they did everything themselves.
01:10:36 They put together a cart, basically, with used parts and stuff like that.
01:10:41 Again, innovation, creativity, being employed at its very best.
01:10:46 The cost of these things is not that much.
01:10:48 And they also have an entrepreneurial drive as well, because now the students have to find funding to buy the little parts and wood and stuff like that.
01:10:56 Back in our day, we had things like the audiovisual room.
01:11:00 We would show movies or we would do a car wash.
01:11:03 We'd do a jokey barbecue with the canteen.
01:11:06 But these are all platforms where they can learn to work together, as well as the entrepreneurial drive.
01:11:13 So I'm seeing that the target group is for all secondary school students 16 years and under.
01:11:19 Yes. Let's say the primary target group is third to fifth form, because they cannot target any SBA and stuff like that.
01:11:27 But what we've also found is a couple of teachers already started with their first formers, because there are lab experiments that you can run that employ the principles of gravity, conservation of energy, momentum, center of gravity, how it affects the carts, things like that.
01:11:43 And they've already introduced those practical labs at the first form level.
01:11:49 But for our purposes, we targeted the third to fifth form.
01:11:54 Actually, that's how UWE got involved.
01:11:56 We wanted to come in and compete.
01:11:57 We said, no, we'll have to do a separate class for the university students.
01:12:01 They will tend to have a bit of an advantage.
01:12:03 Although I must say, in the first incarnation, some UWE students didn't win.
01:12:09 I'll put it like that.
01:12:10 Against secondary school students.
01:12:13 Curacy was the ones that beat them out, actually.
01:12:17 Not by much.
01:12:18 Oh, I also want to mention, the competition is so tight.
01:12:22 It's like thousands of a second, hundreds of a second difference between carts.
01:12:27 Again, the competition is designed in such a way that money spent, gender, strength does not play a part in how well your cart performs.
01:12:39 So these carts are going to not only be judged on, let's say, the performance of it.
01:12:53 But not the performance I'm speaking about, but the design and so on.
01:12:59 The time and effort and parts that have been put into it and the design and so on.
01:13:06 So you have that.
01:13:07 So you're being judged on that, but you're also being judged on the performance.
01:13:10 And this is the beauty with this.
01:13:12 The design and build process is documented.
01:13:16 Pretty much like a typical science lab, a physics lab, a chemistry lab.
01:13:19 You do run experiments, you write up your observations, conclusions.
01:13:24 It's similar to that.
01:13:25 But it's a little more extensive.
01:13:27 Because you have from design creation, you have concept.
01:13:30 Which one of the three you chose, why you chose them.
01:13:33 So it's the whole design and build process that's been documented and graded.
01:13:39 And I'm saying graded because, I mean, they have so many different ways and reasons for people choosing a color.
01:13:47 A simple thing like a color.
01:13:49 Well, why you chose this color?
01:13:50 Well, because it's what we got.
01:13:52 It sounds funny, but it's a practical and realistic interpretation of how they came about with their final design and build.
01:14:01 And the whole process goes from, as I said, from inception to actual testing.
01:14:07 Which basically is how engineering works.
01:14:10 Yes.
01:14:11 You know, that's how it works.
01:14:12 So the competition is in?
01:14:14 So it's throughout this whole term.
01:14:16 You have this term to raise funds, design, build.
01:14:20 They submit the written portfolio at the end of this term, which is in December.
01:14:25 And we have the testing, which is the most fun, the grand finale.
01:14:28 It's going to be hopefully in the Jean Pair Complex.
01:14:31 We had it there before in the first week in January.
01:14:35 So there was a time.
01:14:36 But Mr. Critchlow, where the hill is in the stadium?
01:14:40 Ah, there you go.
01:14:41 I remember this thing being on a hill.
01:14:43 On a hill?
01:14:44 Well, we put in a hill in the Jean Pair Complex.
01:14:46 Let's put it that way.
01:14:47 All right.
01:14:48 All right.
01:14:49 Yeah, that's some of the surprises we have in store.
01:14:50 It has to be an even hill.
01:14:52 Yeah.
01:14:53 And they both have to start at the exact same time, to be fair.
01:14:56 Right?
01:14:57 So we basically build a ramp.
01:14:58 Of course.
01:14:59 We like to tell people, yeah, we put in a hill in the Jean Pair Complex.
01:15:01 It's like, what?
01:15:02 How are they doing that?
01:15:03 How has the response been thus far?
01:15:05 It's pretty good.
01:15:07 It's been a little tedious to call all the schools direct.
01:15:10 But I think that was by far the most effective way, because I had to explain
01:15:15 and break down what it is about.
01:15:18 For the launch already, we have more than 150 students and teachers
01:15:23 already booked.
01:15:24 So it may grow a little bit more.
01:15:26 We may have to go after some sponsors for a little bit more support.
01:15:29 Yeah.
01:15:30 But again, this is what we want.
01:15:31 We want people to come out first and see what it is about.
01:15:34 Interact with the students.
01:15:35 Hear their excitement.
01:15:37 See the application of the principles of STEM.
01:15:40 And realize that, again, there's more to do than sit behind an electronic
01:15:45 device all day, quarrel about who has more likes.
01:15:50 There's going to be a component, hopefully, once we get the response we're
01:15:53 looking for, where the students get to post stages of their build.
01:15:58 All right?
01:15:59 Then we put it on our web page, our Facebook presence.
01:16:02 Something a little more positive to do with your cell phone than the current
01:16:06 contemporary use of cell phone and recording.
01:16:09 So at the end of this exercise and the end of this project and competition,
01:16:16 is it that the school is going to win something?
01:16:18 The individual prizes?
01:16:20 Yes, man.
01:16:21 We have three sponsors on board.
01:16:23 JGCEL, NGC, Trinitino.
01:16:25 We have some nice sponsor packages we've been putting together.
01:16:28 We're still negotiating with some other sponsors who want to do even more
01:16:31 stuff.
01:16:32 And we want to build it as an annual event.
01:16:35 Right?
01:16:36 It's already called it as an annual event.
01:16:38 But, again, sustainability is the key with this.
01:16:41 We can have -- I mean, the first time we did it, we had a fantastic prize of
01:16:46 an F1 trip.
01:16:48 The team to an F1 event in Texas.
01:16:51 Right?
01:16:52 That was sponsored by Hot 93 at the time.
01:16:54 Yes, those things are grand and they look good.
01:16:57 And yes, might be somewhere along those lines.
01:17:00 We're looking more for an exchange experience with probably one of these
01:17:04 better technical universities in, let's say, Florida.
01:17:07 Easy to get to.
01:17:08 They get to go on tour.
01:17:10 And why I'm saying this is we're still negotiating that part of the thing.
01:17:15 So, again, but we're working on it.
01:17:19 Those are the kinds of things we want to do.
01:17:21 We want to be able to exchange and show we have this culture here and we do
01:17:24 have the minds that can create these things and develop these advanced
01:17:30 concepts at the secondary school level.
01:17:32 But there's a wider picture to all of this.
01:17:36 And it is really an attempt, too, at planting a seed for the young people to
01:17:44 graduate towards greater things.
01:17:47 As you say, plant a seed.
01:17:48 One of our past competitors, he now works on BMWs.
01:17:53 He's been amazing at that.
01:17:56 He applied himself.
01:17:58 We have past students who graduated from both the University of West Indies,
01:18:02 Purdue in the U.S., who is now an engineer working.
01:18:06 He did -- one of the things he did was he's doing a startup now where it's a
01:18:12 data-gathering system on moving parts, like a suspension of a vehicle.
01:18:18 He was looking at exploring stuff for the rover on Mars, that kind of stuff.
01:18:23 And, again, these are locals.
01:18:25 >> Trinidadians.
01:18:26 Trinbegonians.
01:18:27 >> Yeah, man, how they're doing that kind of work.
01:18:30 And I see it with pride, not ego, that they had a positive experience building
01:18:35 the boxcar, learning about it.
01:18:38 One of the guys reached out to me and said, you know, they're working on a
01:18:43 cart right now.
01:18:44 He did mechanical engineering, a little go-cart with a suspension.
01:18:48 And he was leading the team because of his experience he's had building and
01:18:53 feeling, believe it or not, with the boxcar experience.
01:18:56 So, again, yes, it is planting a seed for the next generation of problem
01:19:00 solvers.
01:19:02 >> From boxcar to BMW, you know.
01:19:04 >> Yeah, man.
01:19:05 >> We have a few more seconds.
01:19:07 Anything else you'd like to add, sir?
01:19:09 >> Yeah, I just want to say, again, thank you for taking the time and allowing
01:19:12 us to come out here and share because it's something we've been excited about for
01:19:16 years now.
01:19:17 We're getting the support.
01:19:19 And come out next week, Friday, at UE.
01:19:22 See what is going on.
01:19:24 >> At 2 p.m.?
01:19:25 >> From 2 p.m. onward, we open to the general public.
01:19:28 Come and see, meet some students, meet some teachers, meet me.
01:19:31 Bring a little snack from me if you're coming out.
01:19:34 >> I'm going to be at the bar shelter.
01:19:37 >> Mr. Critchlow, it was a pleasure speaking with you this morning.
01:19:39 Thank you very much.
01:19:40 >> And we hope to see you in our car for the testing.
01:19:43 >> Yeah, just call me, man.
01:19:44 We'll organize it.
01:19:45 I'll come with help with something.
01:19:47 >> We have it committed.
01:19:48 We have it committed.
01:19:49 >> Thank you very much, Mr. Critchlow.
01:19:51 >> Thanks again.
01:19:52 >> Yeah, so that's going to be it for me.
01:19:54 No?
01:19:55 We have to take some calls.
01:19:57 All right, before we bring in Jamie Saunders.
01:19:59 All right?
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01:28:25 And welcome back, everyone.
01:28:29 Just enough time to tell you that James Saunders is here
01:28:32 with CPL Action.
01:28:34 I'm handing it over to you.
01:28:35 That's going to be it for me for today.
01:28:37 See you right back here tomorrow, everybody.
01:28:39 James.
01:28:40 I appreciate very much the very royal intro
01:28:43 that I've gotten this morning.
01:28:45 Welcome to the show.
01:28:46 I've got to give you a horn for that.
01:28:48 [horn honking]
01:28:50 Good morning.
01:28:51 Welcome to the Bulldog Mound Cricket Show.
01:28:53 My name is James Saunders.
01:28:55 Coming up on the show today, of course,
01:28:57 we talk CPL Cricket.
01:28:58 The Ghana Amazon Warriors, they continue to win.
01:29:01 We look behind the scenes,
01:29:02 and of course, we chat with our guests
01:29:04 to get insight on all the happenings that is going on
01:29:07 behind the scenes.
01:29:08 Good morning.
01:29:09 Rise and shine.
01:29:10 It's the Bulldog Mound Cricket Show.
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01:29:16 All right, we're here at the Bulldog Mound Cricket Show,
01:29:24 and it is a very good morning,
01:29:26 especially for the folks in Guyana,
01:29:28 as the CPL resumed in Guyana this weekend
01:29:32 with the Ghana Amazon Warriors taking on the Jamaica Talawas.
01:29:36 And, well, they've jumped up the standings yet again
01:29:39 because they continue to be unbeaten in the competition.
01:29:42 Let's look back at those highlights.
01:29:44 Beautifully crisp from King to start proceedings.
01:29:52 Class, absolute class.
01:30:01 Good boy, Stripes.
01:30:02 Missed badly.
01:30:06 You don't miss to Fabian Allen.
01:30:08 Yeah, signature reefer on the back foot.
01:30:15 Fireworks.
01:30:17 There's some fireworks for Kala.
01:30:19 Nando's in the air for some time.
01:30:22 That's a sight to behold.
01:30:28 [crowd cheering]
01:30:30 That was sweet as.
01:30:32 Length on the body line.
01:30:35 We'll hurry, have to hurry.
01:30:41 Direct hit was gone.
01:30:42 But the single will mean a third consecutive half century
01:30:47 for this 21-year-old sensation.
01:30:50 Went slow of all, but oh, wow.
01:30:55 Ayub is turning it on.
01:30:57 Finally a wicket.
01:31:02 Could say Nando's done his job, but Smith is here because
01:31:07 Azam Khan trying to.
01:31:10 It will be game seven match for the Amazon Warriors.
01:31:17 They have won seven in a row here in Republic Bank CPL 2023.
01:31:25 Well, unbeaten the guy in the Amazon Warriors as they continue
01:31:28 to dominate and particularly on home soil, getting that victory
01:31:31 over the Jamaica Tallowas.
01:31:33 Guess what?
01:31:34 I'm going to take a break and when I come back,
01:31:36 I dig deeper inside the Bulldog World Cricket Show.
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