00:00 but I mean there is clear evidence which I only discovered towards the end of the trial and again following the verdict
00:08 that there was gross dereliction of duty on the part of senior management within this hospital.
00:15 What they seem to do is they put their own needs ahead of the needs of their patients
00:19 and they put their own interests ahead of the needs of their clinical staff
00:24 and to ignore experienced doctors who obviously were very very concerned about this
00:30 I find it absolutely astonishing, you know you just couldn't make this stuff up.
00:34 So you think that they should spend time being investigated by the police as you said
00:39 and you'd like to see them in the dock?
00:41 I do, I think they, to use the vernacular, I think they should have their collars felt.
00:48 I've been involved with clinical negligence cases for many many years, for over 30 years
00:53 and sadly my experience is that when things go wrong
00:59 the default position of management within the NHS is to sweep things under the carpet
01:05 and this is completely unacceptable and from time to time we hear about these so-called scandals
01:11 it's happened in Staffordshire, it's happened with the Bristol baby scandal
01:14 and on every occasion there was evidence of things not working properly and yet no one doing anything about it
01:22 and I think it's time that we increase the ante really
01:26 and I believe that there is a, I think that there is a clear reason for looking at the way the management
01:38 failed these babies, failed their families and also failed the medical and nursing staff.
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