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00:41Angelin Bahan, ang mga simple lang na tanong kung pirma ba niya ang nasa dokumento.
00:53Pero sa pagsisimula ng impeachment trial kanina,
00:56nagpaalala si Presiding Officer Sen. Cheese Escudero
00:59kaugnay sa mga karapatan ng mga testigo at ang pagtrato sa kanila,
01:04hindi lang sa mga Sen. Judge, Prosecution at Depensa,
01:08kundi pati sa kanyang sarili.
01:11The Chair wishes to remind the members of this court as well,
01:14including the presiding officer himself who stated that his patience was wearing thin the other day,
01:23that we are sitting as senator judges in a trial.
01:27Our rules behoove us to receive and evaluate the evidence with impartiality
01:32and due to the often lengthy examination by both parties with utmost patience as well.
01:38Nito ang mga nakarang araw, ilang beses sinitahan ang mga senador ang mga testigo ng depensa.
01:44Si Bahan, sinabihan ng ilang senador na tila evasive o mailap.
01:49Kahapon, yung witness, isang witness, tatawa-tawa.
01:55Ngayon, ito, very evasive, nagmaang-maangan.
01:59Patikman kaya natin makontempt mga to.
02:00Siguro kailangan na, it's about time, magkaroon tayo ng sample.
02:03Baka makontempt ka.
02:05Sana huwag.
02:07Kami, napipiko na.
02:10She can either say yes or no.
02:12It's her signature and we are wondering why she refuses to answer.
02:16It is taking her several minutes and going through pages.
02:22We find this unacceptable, Mr. President.
02:26Yung mga nakikinig mga kababayan natin dito,
02:30pag hindi kayo nakakasagot, naiinis sila.
02:34Kami rin.
02:36Sabi na ni Sen. Turpo,
02:40Raffi, baka ipakontempt ka pa rito.
02:44Kahapon naman, tila nawalan din ang pasensya
02:47ang ilang senador sa in-house counsel
02:49ng Gencorp Industries at Metro City Child Food Corporation
02:53na si Atty. Suset Balukanag-Punay.
02:57I do not have any participation in the computation, so I do not know.
03:01Pumunta ka dito with these numbers,
03:02hindi mo alam kung paano nakuha yung mga numero.
03:05I requested for data extraction for 2022 to 2025.
03:10Okay.
03:12Kinuhang witness today
03:14para sa unexplained wealth ni BP Sara
03:18for her to explain the unexplainable.
03:21And yet, marami siya mga hindi alam.
03:24It seems to me, 15 years ka-abogado, mukhang hindi ka pa ready.
03:27Or, nagmamangmangan lang po kayo.
03:30Maraming salamat po.
03:33Ang paraan ng pakikipag-usap ni Sen. Rafi Tulfo,
03:37tinawag ng tagapagsalita ng vice-presidente na si Atty. Paolo Panelo
03:41na badgering o pangulit.
03:43Ang naging trademark na ni Sen. Rafi ang ganyan,
03:48and sa totoo lang,
03:52parang kung one of the lawyers on either side ang gumawa nun,
03:57badgering yun.
03:59Ipinaalala kanina ni Escudero
04:00na bagaman obligadong sumagot ang mga testigo,
04:03may mga karapatan pa rin sila
04:05batay sa rules on evidence.
04:07Hiling sa mga Sen. Judges,
04:10magpigil ng konti
04:11at hindi dapat nagtatanong sa paraang
04:14magdudulot ng takot sa mga testigo.
04:17An answer which may be unsatisfactory
04:19is not inherently contemptible.
04:22We must refrain from resorting to a manner of questioning
04:26or to making declarations that elicit fear
04:29rather than candor.
04:31Unlike in inquiries in aid of legislation,
04:34an answer of I do not know or I do not recall
04:37may be extremely frustrating.
04:40What we can control, however,
04:41is how we appreciate and weigh the testimonies
04:43and statements delivered before this court.
04:46Ang prosecution at depensa,
04:48handa raw tumalima.
04:49Tingin ko naman ho,
04:50bahagi naman po ang lahat ng ito
04:52sa proseso po ng cross-examination.
04:54Ang totoo, testing the credibility
04:56is well within the rights of the prosecution
04:59or the defense to do during their time.
05:02Witness din ako.
05:02So alam ko yung stress,
05:06yung kaba pag nandun ka sa witness stand.
05:09So we really appreciate the reminders
05:12that were issued by the presiding officer this morning.
05:17Nagpasalamat din ang tagapagsalita ng BICE
05:19sa mga paalala ni Escudero.
05:22Naniniwala ang tagapagsalita ng BICE Presidente,
05:25dapat on the spot na maipatutupad
05:27ang mga paalala ng presiding officer
05:30para raw matiyak ang karapatan ng mga testigo.
05:34Mas maganda na on the spot ang paalala.
05:38Hindi po yung after the fact na
05:41kasi damage has been done to those witnesses.
05:43So maybe it would be good
05:46if the Senate presiding officer,
05:48total siya naman ang pinagkatiwalaan
05:50ng Senator Judges
05:52para mamahala dito sa proceeding na ito.
05:54Maybe he can step in
05:55while this improper language
06:00or improper line of questioning is happening.
06:03Ian Cruz, Nakatutok, 24 Horas.
