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Shan, RJ, and Bobby debated the latest College Football Playoff rankings. They argued about the SEC bias, Alabama sitting at number three, UCLA's undefeated resume, the Texas Longhorns, and more.
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00:00I'd like to know where Lou Holtz is right now.
00:01If I win, Google me.
00:03We're not hosting an intergalactic kegger down here.
00:06The results are in.
00:08They definitely serve alcohol at the Gaylord Texan in Grapevine.
00:13That is where the College Football Playoff Committee has been doing their
00:16committee rankings for, what, about 15 years now, it seems they've been there.
00:20And they came out with their latest rankings yesterday.
00:26And I'm sure that there are hot takes on this one.
00:29Only four SEC teams in the top ten.
00:31Is that what's upsetting to you?
00:34No, I don't think that's a problem.
00:37I don't think many people have a problem with the four that are ranked in the top ten.
00:42I was a little surprised Kentucky was at 11.
00:44I thought they would have been 12 or lower.
00:46Oh, they should be out of the top 15.
00:49Out of the top 15?
00:51They're getting credit for the LSU win, I think.
00:54That's what it's saying.
00:55And the South Carolina win.
00:56The South Carolina win is boosting them up.
00:57It's a damn circular logic of, well, this SEC team beat this SEC team, so we know they're
01:02good.
01:03They're not really that bad.
01:04LSU's not a sorry team.
01:05They're actually really good, because they've only lost to SEC teams.
01:08Well, they got a home game against you boys this week.
01:10And if they win, that's going to boost them up again.
01:13Because it's SEC.
01:16Well, this bid is not lasting.
01:17It's not a bid.
01:18It's the reality.
01:18Okay, then tell me who...
01:20Let me give you the CFP rankings first.
01:23Georgia 1, Utah 2, Alabama 3, UCLA 4, Notre Dame 5, the Longhorns 6, Miami 7, Tennessee
01:358, Indiana 9, BYU 10, Kentucky 11, Boise State 12.
01:43Yeah, and Boise State is really ranked 24th, but they're a group of six, and that's what
01:50they are, a G6 school.
01:52The highest ranked will get in.
01:54So they will take the place of Texas Tech, who was at number 12.
01:58I would not worry about that, Red Raiders.
02:00They are going to win the Big 12, and they will make it anyway.
02:04The Big 12 has three teams in the top 12.
02:08That is very, very good for that conference, who a lot of people thought was maybe going
02:15to be a one-bid league, and that bid would have been Tech going into the season.
02:19Right now, they're in good position to get at least two, maybe three, come playoff time.
02:26Couple of notes here.
02:29Indiana did not play, dropped five spots.
02:32Don't know how that happens.
02:33Now, they shouldn't have been number four to begin with.
02:35Because they're in the Big 10.
02:36They should have been number four to begin with.
02:38They should have been, to me, behind UCLA at the time.
02:42They should have been behind Texas at the time.
02:45But they were ranked number four.
02:47They never should have been up that high.
02:49They did drop.
02:50The committee said something last night, which just hacked me off.
02:55And that's that they start from scratch every week with these rankings.
03:00They said, we start from scratch every week.
03:03And I'm like, well, so if you thought if you thought Georgia was the best team in the country
03:09last week.
03:09Yeah.
03:10And they win.
03:11And somebody else.
03:13You now change your mind.
03:15Maybe, I guess.
03:16You mean like if they win by three.
03:19Yeah.
03:19Number two wins by 20.
03:21Yeah.
03:22Now, who is number two playing a great team?
03:24Is it number two?
03:26Like if Utah beat BYU, good team, and Georgia barely squeaked by.
03:31Who'd they play?
03:31Ole Miss.
03:32Barely squeaks by.
03:33Could I see Utah jumping them because they beat down a good beat?
03:37Yeah, sure.
03:38But if Utah plays just an average team and Georgia beat down a really good team, I can't
03:43see that.
03:44Why would we learn something that significant this far into the CFP rankings?
03:49It feels like every week you come in here, and this is not attacking you.
03:53You come in here, and you're like, well, we've learned this is how they look at it.
03:56And this is how they look at it.
03:57And it's like, we should have a pretty set standard for what the rules are this many years
04:03in.
04:03Different committee this year.
04:04Oh, it's a different committee?
04:05It's a different 12 every year.
04:07Different 12 people.
04:08Oh.
04:10Different 12 every year.
04:11So the way they do it.
04:12I didn't know that.
04:13A lot of people complain.
04:14Now, some of them are the same, but it's not all the same 12.
04:18So this year, they said they have, like, you know, do they count head-to-head as important
04:26as they did two years ago or last year?
04:29And that could change year to year.
04:31It could change every single year.
04:32They ranked them in pods.
04:34We kind of found that out this year.
04:35So Alabama is in pod one.
04:39And if you played Alabama and you're in pod two, then you don't get compared to Alabama,
04:44which is something that is sticking in the craw of a lot of people.
04:48You know, UCLA being the top four, I think UCLA deserves to be in the top four.
04:52They're an undefeated Big Ten team.
04:55Absolutely deserve to be in the top four.
04:56Utah, undefeated.
04:58Got to have them in there.
04:59Notre Dame, they beat Miami.
05:01They had to be ahead of Miami.
05:03They jumped them.
05:05That's smart.
05:06That's the way to go.
05:07Texas has had a ton of good wins.
05:10To me, Texas has to be ahead of Miami.
05:13Miami's not beating a single-ranked team this year.
05:15Not a single-ranked team.
05:17Texas has beaten number one, 14, 7, and 18.
05:21You got to be ahead of Miami in that situation.
05:24So I didn't have a major issue.
05:26I was a little surprised that Indiana dropped that much.
05:29I was a little surprised that Kentucky.
05:31Because I would definitely pick Miami over Texas if they played tomorrow.
05:34Not without Tony.
05:35Yeah.
05:36Right?
05:36And that's part of it.
05:38He had – I had never heard of a tightrope surgery.
05:41Tightrope?
05:42That's what he had.
05:42It's called a tightrope surgery.
05:44It's for a high ankle sprain.
05:45So it allows you to return quicker than just letting it heal.
05:49This is a weak Miami schedule, though.
05:51Yeah, that's the problem with it, right?
05:52I mean, they struggle with Florida State.
05:54They struggle with North Carolina.
05:56Yeah.
05:56And it's number three with two losses, and they've had a weak schedule.
05:59Well, I mean, the committee says they've had the best set of wins in the world.
06:04Because the committee loves that.
06:05They lost to number two Georgia.
06:07They lost to number 14 Tennessee.
06:09Other than that, their ranked wins were, at the time, 16 Mississippi State.
06:13At the time, 14 LSU, which were both overseeded.
06:17Okay, so you have problems with it.
06:18Who do you have an issue with that's in the top 12?
06:21I don't think Alabama should be anywhere near the top five with their resume.
06:26We just don't like Alabama.
06:27No, they shouldn't be near the top five.
06:29They have two losses against two decent teams,
06:31and the other games that they've won were overseeds.
06:34Yeah, I don't have a problem with Alabama being...
06:37And they put them above UCLA, who's undefeated.
06:38They put them above Notre Dame, who's got one loss.
06:40As a two-loss team, that's SEC just slobber.
06:43Do you think that Alabama would lose to UCLA?
06:45Yes.
06:46I see.
06:47100%.
06:47You also picked Minnesota to beat UCLA, and then UCLA thumped them.
06:51What about UCLA's schedule, though?
06:54They beat Oregon number 13 by two, and then...
06:58Oregon had seven turnovers that game.
07:00But, like, so what do you say to that, Bob, in terms of UCLA and who they've played?
07:06I'm saying it's roughly...
07:07When we talk about it with Miami.
07:08I'm saying it's roughly...
07:08Oh, I was talking about it with Alabama.
07:10It's roughly the same quality, UCLA, and it's...
07:13You're just...
07:13You cannot say UCLA's got the same quality of opponents.
07:16Yes, it is, because it's just the...
07:17It is lapping up the belief that this circular...
07:20The way they play each other, that's why they all get doled out losses,
07:23and then they play nobody outside their own conference.
07:25Do you not think that the SEC is better than the Big Ten this year?
07:28No.
07:29Okay.
07:31This is not a...
07:33I think the SEC loses to the Big Ten, and if Big Ten and SEC play each other in the
07:37playoff,
07:38SEC gets swept this year.
07:39That'll happen.
07:40I'll bet you $500 that happens.
07:42Okay, I'll bet you $500 that they get swept.
07:44I think that you're...
07:45This is not a legitimate argument anymore.
07:48But you also are so closed off to the idea that maybe the committee does have a slobbery love for
07:53the SEC.
07:54Okay, you can settle it, because you haven't settled any of it yet.
07:56Right, I have not.
07:58What would you like me to settle?
07:59I would...
08:01Maybe we're both wrong.
08:02Maybe we're both wrong.
08:02The whole thing comes down to...
08:06It's very SEC bias.
08:07The third or fourth...
08:09The whole thing comes down to is, you know, how good is the third or fourth SEC team?
08:14That's what the crux of the argument comes down to.
08:16And if you beat the third or fourth SEC team, how much props should you be given?
08:21And then on the other side of the argument, it's, well, they're allowed to remain the third or fourth best
08:27SEC team,
08:28because they're beating...
08:30And I'm just using a generic argument.
08:32They're beating the fifth or sixth SEC team.
08:34So it's like, Bobby's argument is, where does it end in terms of beating the third, the fourth, the fifth,
08:41the seventh best?
08:42My problem is in evaluating UCLA.
08:45My problem is evaluating, like, more teams on the West Coast that I'm not paying as much attention to, you
08:52know?
08:52Or even, I talked about it yesterday with BYU and Utah.
08:56I honestly don't know.
08:58I haven't paid as much attention to them as I should, because they're just, like, out of my mind,
09:03versus the big dogs that usually play.
09:05It's just, it's one ranked win outside, like, for Alabama, for instance.
09:10They have one ranked win right now, and it's LSU.
09:13That was at the time of the play, because Mississippi State was a ranked win,
09:17but Mississippi State now at this point is four and five.
09:18I don't disagree with you over that, but UCLA's schedule, to me, looks very weak.
09:25No, I know, but I'm saying that that's mirrored by, like, UCLA has handled all their business.
09:30So Alabama has handled all their business against teams that aren't that great either.
09:34Like, Oregon is equal to the LSU victory to me, and then outside of that, there's nothing impressive behind it.
09:39I'm not going to fight you that Alabama, I don't think, should be in the top five.
09:43But, well, you said it was just because I, when I said they shouldn't be in the top five,
09:47you said, well, that's just because you hate Bama.
09:48You do hate Bama.
09:49But that's not why.
09:50But they would be, they would be a.
09:52I love Texas.
09:53Texas shouldn't be up as high as they, Texas should not be ahead of Miami, I don't think.
09:58Texas, Alabama would be a 13-point favorite over UCLA.
10:02Maybe more.
10:03And they would lose, and we would all make money.
10:06They would not lose.
10:07To say the committee is SEC bias.
10:09Hold on, Bob, with Miami's schedule, because I don't love the Longhorns, but I do give them props for their
10:15schedule.
10:16Yeah.
10:16They beat No. 1 Ohio State.
10:19They beat No. 14 Tennessee.
10:21They beat No. 7 Ole Miss.
10:24And then they beat No. 18 Missouri.
10:26That blows away Miami's schedule.
10:28Yeah, Miami doesn't have, like, anything.
10:31They've got Notre Dame on there, which they lost.
10:33Yeah.
10:33But, no, I think, like, if you look at the way they beat down teams, they were, like, thumping bad
10:39teams.
10:39Or they were thumping average teams.
10:40Well, then that's another argument.
10:41Like, winning by two or three against ranked versus beating down.
10:45Every game feels like a struggle for Texas.
10:47I know, but they have faced 1, 14, 7, 18.
10:50That's impressive.
10:51And you know I can't stand the Longhorns.
10:53No, I know.
10:54But I would also say, again, as I've said, like, a lot of those, and it is, that's why it's
10:58a circle,
10:59a lot of those ranked are the SEC teams that they then love up and give this little round and
11:03round and round to.
11:04So do you think on the Longhorns schedule, like, and Pepe, you can weigh in here.
11:09Ohio State's a great win.
11:10Okay.
11:10Give me Tennessee.
11:12Give me Ole Miss.
11:13Give me Missouri.
11:15Missouri is 18.
11:16Like, do you feel like Missouri ranked too high for Texas to be giving credit for that 14-point win?
11:22Yes.
11:22They're not 18 anymore.
11:23I don't think they're ranked.
11:24Well, they were 18.
11:25Yeah, they were.
11:25Seven Ole Miss.
11:26They're 22 in the CFP.
11:28Seven Ole Miss.
11:29Ole Miss is over-seeded.
11:31Okay.
11:32Pepe, you watch a lot of college football.
11:34What do you think about this debate?
11:35I do think that if Texas beats LSU this weekend, it's hard to have a valid point of why Alabama
11:42should be ranked ahead of Texas.
11:44Texas by far would have the better resume.
11:45Now, if you want to compare both their losses, Alabama's lost to two-ranked teams.
11:48Texas lost to two teams that suck, OU and Florida.
11:51You know, if you compare to that, that's fine, but it's hard to put Alabama above Texas, in my opinion,
11:55with the resume stacked up against it.
11:57Yeah, I can't.
11:58I have to put Texas ahead of Bama, too.
12:01You know, four-ranked wins is good.
12:03For the record, the committee—
12:05I just—real quick, I'm just going to speak on, like, the big dogs.
12:09If the Longhorns are six, like, there's a lack of really, really good teams.
12:15Oh, there's a lack of really, really good teams.
12:16Like, this feels just—this feels weak overall.
12:20I mean, there's—well, we've seen—
12:21Like, Georgia, to me, is the best team in the country.
12:23No doubt.
12:24And then I'm like, okay.
12:27I mean, if the Longhorns are six, that's a weak field.
12:31Am I crazy on that?
12:32I mean, it's—they're, like, a supremely talented team.
12:38Cookies and rainbows.
12:39So are the Cowboys, whatever.
12:40What does that mean?
12:41Well, they're—
12:41The Longhorns on the field have been mediocre to above average, it feels like.
12:47Am I wrong?
12:48I think any-ranked team feels like they can beat Texas.
12:51I don't think they should be favored, but I think any-ranked team thinks we've got a shot against them.
12:55And I'm not trying to just crap on Texas.
12:56I'm just saying, like, it feels wide open after Georgia.
13:01It's—there's no doubt it's wide open after Georgia.
13:03And I may be disrespecting Utah, but, like, Alabama at three?
13:06Miami.
13:07This is why I haven't weighed in as much, because I'm just like—I'm thinking about the weak field versus where
13:11they belong.
13:12Where they belong is the big argument.
13:14But if Alabama's three, my mind is like, dang, there's a lack of studs.
13:19I don't know how you can just justify—I'm not saying you or anybody else.
13:22I'm just saying, I don't know how anybody can justify Notre Dame being two spots behind two-loss Bama.
13:27That doesn't make sense to me.
13:29That's the biggest gripe I have on the list, is that Notre Dame, no matter where it is, should be
13:32ahead of Alabama.
13:34My issue with Notre Dame is that, again, like, they—they lose to BYU, and that's not a bad loss.
13:40That's a really, really good loss.
13:41They don't really have another great win.
13:44They just beat the number one team in the country.
13:45Without their best player, who clearly was a limited offensive team.
13:49I know, there's always an excuse for everybody that's not the SEC for you.
13:53College football kegger.
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