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Shan, RJ, and Bobby debated whether the Cowboys should trade Dak Prescott before the deadline. They argued Minnesota’s potential interest, the salary cap hit of moving him, what starting over would look like, and more.
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00:00Number one storyline, I believe, is not Josh Allen.
00:02It's not the Buffalo Bills winning.
00:04It is the Minnesota Viking quarterback situation after the awful is not.
00:10It's an insult to the word awful to use awful for Carson Wentz.
00:15He's.
00:16Howie's guy.
00:17My gosh.
00:18That was putrid.
00:20That was embarrassing.
00:21The Vikings GM has to make a move.
00:23But we just had on the Cowboys GM a somber.
00:27Yeah.
00:28A quieter.
00:29Jerry Jones, just like Brian Schottenheimer.
00:32I don't know whether Jerry's just tired or they have.
00:36And I would like this.
00:38Now, a lot of people are like, why do you just want to be miserable?
00:40Why do you.
00:41It's not about being miserable.
00:42It's about having standards.
00:44It's about having standards.
00:45So, like, yeah, Shottie wants to do his own little run.
00:48He got a little chippy with Archer yesterday.
00:50He did not like that question from Todd.
00:52Yeah.
00:52So, Todd Schottenheimer, he's hearing ghosts.
00:55He might not be seeing them.
00:57But he's hearing them.
00:58But Archer's like, hey, that, uh, and Archer, I love that he asked it.
01:01He's like, that whole locker room celebration thing.
01:03Like, where did that originate from?
01:05How did that come about?
01:06And he's like, we're going to, I'm paraphrasing.
01:08He's like, we're going to celebrate the positives, Todd.
01:10And Todd's like, no, but how did it start?
01:13When did it start?
01:14Positive Pete.
01:15And it was Pete Carroll.
01:17But Schottenheimer did not love, I don't think, that questioning.
01:20But he was not all giddy and excited.
01:22And Jerry normally comes on here and sells any win.
01:27Hopium.
01:28And he's upbeat and hopium.
01:30And this can happen.
01:31That can happen.
01:32He did not do that today.
01:34And I like that he didn't do it.
01:37Because you suggest to your fans sometimes when you do it, no, no, no, no.
01:41What you're seeing is not, it's not reality.
01:43Like, oh, no, no, no.
01:44That's not really happening.
01:45You don't, you don't really know football.
01:47But Jerry was on here.
01:48And he's like, no, we're not, we haven't been very good.
01:51But he did not want to put them in the class, though, of Tampa, Arizona, and Indianapolis.
01:56Yeah.
01:56And that's the problem.
01:57Okay.
01:57Like, yeah, he could sit here and say, we haven't played well.
02:00We're not, you know, we're disappointed where we are.
02:02Or, you know, we're basically stopping short of just saying we're not a good football team.
02:08Yeah.
02:09Okay.
02:09If you haven't played well, and you're not where you are, and you're pretty short of not
02:14a good football team, why are we staying the course?
02:18Well, as Bobby.
02:19It's a great time to sell.
02:20Yeah.
02:20But as Bobby keeps pointing out, and now you have to answer this, what are, what and who
02:25are you selling?
02:26Go ahead.
02:26Run down the list.
02:27Like, we do have to be reasonable about it.
02:29Steven said nobody has called them about any of their players.
02:32Is that because they don't want any of their players, or because they think the Cowboys
02:35would say no?
02:36Because I find it hard to believe that somebody wouldn't pick up a phone and say, hey, you
02:39know, you got some first-round picks on the offensive line.
02:41You got some, you know, you got some George Pickens.
02:44I mean, hell, nobody wants to trade for CeeDee Lamb.
02:46I'm not saying they would do it.
02:47I'm just saying, like...
02:47No, I think nobody would call about Lamb because of just, they're not trading Lamb.
02:51Like, it's not, you're not calling every team in the league and go like, all right,
02:54let me make my rounds.
02:54Are you trading Jackson Smith and Jigba today?
02:56No?
02:56Okay, bye.
02:57Lamb?
02:57No?
02:57Bye.
02:58Like, you're just not wasting your time on that.
02:59That's the baseball guy in me because...
03:01Pickens would be the one you would call about.
03:03Nobody wanted Pickens this offseason.
03:05Nobody wanted to pay what it would take this offseason.
03:07They weren't engaging with it.
03:08But should they be thinking about trading Quinnen, Lamb, one of the Tylers?
03:15Quinnen, I haven't looked at it.
03:16I would imagine it's probably difficult because of the deal they just got done.
03:21One of the Tylers, I wouldn't...
03:22They're so young.
03:23They're so young and they're so good on the offensive line.
03:25Whatever you're rebuilding, they can be here for it.
03:27Right, that's true.
03:28I mean, look, and Jerry's in a different spot because his age plays into, I believe,
03:34and he's said as much, you know, again, like, if I were thinking, what would Howie Roseman
03:40do today with this team?
03:42I think he would obviously say, I'm selling, and, you know...
03:47I don't think he would because he has the quarterback.
03:49I think he'd try to get creative in acquiring.
03:52That's what I think he'd try to do.
03:52Let me interject.
03:54Because I know Howie Roseman is a god today and a hero to everyone in the football world.
04:00Like, does Howie Roseman do that or does he act...
04:03Would he have done that if they know that if Hurts was Dak?
04:07Like, Howie can do this also because they may not compete next year.
04:14They have a...
04:15They're going to have to find a quarterback.
04:17Like, that thing's over.
04:19So factor that in.
04:20We know Dak Prescott should be a good player next year.
04:26So, would he do that if he had a better quarterback?
04:30I don't know.
04:33Because, like, this is the second time they've done this with Hurts.
04:37They already rebuilt once with Hurts.
04:40With him starting.
04:41Yeah.
04:42Yeah.
04:42Yeah, I know, but, like...
04:43But you're getting a new quarterback.
04:45They don't have an answer quarterback right now.
04:48They don't have a replacement.
04:50So they bought last year as a team that people wondered
04:55if they were good enough to invest in.
04:5823, when it was starting to flounder on them,
05:00they were going sideways when they lost that, like,
05:02six in a row after the big Dom suspension.
05:03They bought at the deadline that year.
05:05So, like, Howie will...
05:06Howie's like, I got the quarterback in place.
05:08I just need to add to this.
05:09He's done that before.
05:10He will buy.
05:11And I'm not saying...
05:12Don't get it twisted.
05:12By the way, we're talking about Jordan Davis being traded
05:15to Jacksonville for a first and a second,
05:17which, my gosh, Bobby said it.
05:19It's negligence.
05:20How the heck, Jacksonville, did you give that up?
05:21I am not disputing.
05:24Howie Roseman, being a better GM, wish you had that here.
05:28And they'll probably go back to the Super Bowl again before we do.
05:30All I'm asking is, do Eagle fans think this is happening
05:35in two years, in three years?
05:37Because I think sometimes people are like,
05:39oh, Howie just, this year's not winning.
05:41So, you're not resetting and, like, having a contender next year
05:45unless you find a quarterback.
05:46Unless they think Hurts can return.
05:48Yeah, I mean, and they might because, I mean, he's won...
05:51I mean, he's been to two Super Bowls with that team.
05:53Like, they probably have some...
05:54Yeah, but it feels like a really sub...
05:56You know, it's a regression.
05:58It seems like he doesn't want to run.
06:00Well, he can't throw.
06:01Like, Jalen Hurts does not look like a good quarterback.
06:04They won a Super Bowl with him throwing, like,
06:06150 yards a game that year.
06:08They probably have more faith in him than the rest of the league does.
06:11But anyway, it sounds like nothing is really cooking
06:14for the Cowboys with the trades.
06:17Other things that you took from Jerry said it was a...
06:20Like, we were going to start with some defensive praise,
06:23some positives, because we've been kicking them
06:24in the nuts nonstop.
06:26No.
06:27Jerry wanted to, like, start negative and be like,
06:29we're not going crazy over this win.
06:30It's bittersweet.
06:31That's why Shoddy was short yesterday.
06:33I bet they got in that meeting, and Jerry was not as thrilled
06:36with that victory as Coach was thinking he was going to be.
06:39That would make sense to me of why he was short.
06:41And there was stuff being quoted from that press conference yesterday
06:44within the interview.
06:44So that was stuff that was top of mind.
06:47So I'm getting...
06:49It sounds to me like in that interview that Jerry just does not think
06:52the offense is doing enough.
06:54Yeah.
06:54And he said that's how we've got to win games now.
06:57Who's definitely in charge of the offense?
06:59So I bet there was a little bit of kicking yesterday.
07:02I mean...
07:03What else did you want the offense to do?
07:06Statistically, they were fantastic.
07:07They had a lull, the usual Cowboy lull,
07:11of, like, four straight drives without putting the game away
07:14or creating separation.
07:15But when he said there's things to do offensively,
07:18we should have followed up with, like, what?
07:19But, I mean, he probably sees what we were talking about yesterday,
07:22which is, like, it was kind of an empty 500.
07:24Yeah.
07:24Whereas, like, it doesn't feel that.
07:25He probably felt the same way.
07:26It was, like, a bad fumble and bad penalties
07:30and all of this putting us in a hole.
07:31And we shouldn't have just 20 points against them
07:33and need a, like, basically miracle dot throw to Flannoy
07:37to win that game.
07:38You know, you alternate.
07:39I know, Mom, my mother will say this is not possible.
07:42Not the case.
07:43Bobby's won't.
07:46You probably alternate your favorite kids throughout life.
07:49You know what I mean?
07:50This one's my favorite.
07:52Like, right now, my son is my favorite.
07:54My daughter, terrible twos.
07:55She's tormenting everybody.
07:57And then there'll be a time when my daughter's my favorite.
08:02Jerry, he went out of his way to compliment the special teams.
08:06And we know he's been praising the defense a little bit more.
08:10I wonder if the offense is three on his list of favorite kids
08:15at this point in time.
08:17That's where all the money is.
08:18Yeah.
08:18A lot of the money's on the offense.
08:19And he kept talking about health.
08:21And he's right.
08:23Jerry Jones knows they are getting a very fortunate season
08:26health-wise so far.
08:28And you're peeing it away.
08:30It's right into the toilet.
08:33Think about that.
08:34The big worry about Dak two years ago, he's not going to be healthy.
08:37Dak Prescott is injury-prone.
08:39And it's going to get worse as he ages.
08:41And now what?
08:42We're going to go on two straight seasons of Dak Prescott being healthy
08:45and you've got nothing for it?
08:47So he's not happy about that.
08:48And odds-wise say, I mean, he very well could just be an Iron Man
08:54for the next five years.
08:54But the odds say that's probably the last back-to-back stretch of no games
08:58missed if you get that this year that he'll have in his career.
09:02They are going to add a running back, probably through free agency.
09:05They have to with the injury news to Goodson.
09:11And then he said, we haven't had a chance?
09:13Or we just haven't talked to teams in the last two or three weeks?
09:17So I'm just taking that as it's been quiet on the trade front.
09:21Yeah, because he said, what's that old country song say?
09:23If that phone ain't ringing, that means I'm not calling.
09:26So RJ wants us all to go on record.
09:29What they will do, what you want them to do, trade-wise, deadline today.
09:33What time is the deadline?
09:34I believe it's four.
09:35Our time?
09:36Yep.
09:37Okay.
09:38Well, we know what you want.
09:39Well, I think they should, and I want them to sell.
09:43Sell what?
09:46I'm going to tell you you're getting pretty nice value back
09:49for every player you put out there.
09:51I'm not even going to say it's third.
09:54Pickens, let's just call it a second.
09:57And you got to specify, yeah.
09:59Who and what?
10:00Who and what would you?
10:01Because then tomorrow if they don't do it
10:02and there was no opportunity for them to do it,
10:04we can't hold them to a standard of like, why didn't you do it?
10:07Well, why didn't you do it is going to be because they refused to entertain him.
10:10No, but I'm saying that.
10:11Maybe just George.
10:11But I'm saying if you are going to get value on somebody like Pickens,
10:14if you're picking up a call going, we're unloading him,
10:17like they're not going to get the value.
10:18They're calling and saying, hey, we're unloading George.
10:20Will somebody please take him?
10:22Then you're going to have sharks in the water like Howie Roseman going,
10:24oh, okay, then don't take the deal.
10:26That's still not as bad to me as not picking up the phone.
10:29But I'm saying not moving them then.
10:30If we come in tomorrow and they haven't sold, it's like, okay,
10:32well what realistically can they move so we can set a standard
10:36like these guys can and should potentially be moved.
10:38All right.
10:39I know they've said nobody's called.
10:41Do you believe that?
10:42Yes.
10:43Trade calls don't happen nearly as often in the NFL.
10:46They're not as hot stove-like.
10:48I'd be calling them and asking about a ton of people.
10:52I refuse to believe that nobody is.
10:53Anyway, this gets us some names.
10:55I think that's an easy way out for them.
10:57George Pickens, Overshown.
11:01Which would get nothing, Overshown.
11:03No, that's fine.
11:04Okay.
11:05That's fine.
11:05I would ask about one of your interior defensive linemen.
11:08You got a few of them.
11:10You can't move Quinnen.
11:11Can't move.
11:12That's fine.
11:12You can't move Quinnen.
11:13I'd be open to.
11:15Kenny would probably be very little.
11:17So, again, still, like, you know.
11:20But we also don't care about fifth and sixth round pegs.
11:22I'd be open as a Raku.
11:24Okay.
11:26I would be, obviously, all the tight ends get the hell out of here.
11:30Okay.
11:30And then if somebody, and I would sit here and somebody were to give me an absolute haul,
11:37I would consider one of the offensive linemen.
11:39And I would consider CD if somebody gave me a haul.
11:42I would need two firsts and two seconds for Lamb.
11:45Yeah.
11:45But, like, if you want to redo your ride, that's, that's, yeah.
11:50Everybody should be on the table right now.
11:52I mean, like, it's the way it is.
11:53I mean, obviously, there's some guys with the contract you can't.
11:55Yeah.
11:56All right.
11:56Let's address this Dak thing.
11:58But, for the record, they're not going to do it.
12:01They're not going to do it.
12:01I hate Zach.
12:04Well, like, Minnesota should call today and say, hey, we'll give you three ones for them.
12:09Dak Prescott goes to Minnesota.
12:10They win the Super Bowl.
12:11I know, but we have to put in the cap number.
12:15Everybody wants to leave this out.
12:17And you're one of my cap guys, Choppy.
12:19You're one of my cap dudes.
12:20We have to include it.
12:22Reset it quickly, Bobby.
12:23Here's the thing.
12:24I'm just going to break it down into very, like, real life terms.
12:26Because, yes, it does make, it makes sense for everyone involved.
12:28It would make sense.
12:29If you believe the Dak window is shut, it would make sense.
12:34Get two firsts and change whatever you can.
12:36Minnesota, you're a Super Bowl contender.
12:38You might be the favorite with him.
12:40But, and I'm not even worried about the no trade.
12:43He may accept the no trade.
12:44I'm not even going to bother going into, like, all of the specific heady numbers.
12:48I'm just going to give you an analogy of what it's like financially for the Cowboys to do this.
12:53Can they trade him?
12:54Yes.
12:56In the sense that if you make $100,000 a year and you saw something cost $100,000,
13:03you would say, well, I can buy that because I have $100,000.
13:09Technically, sort of, not in any sort of real life practical application can you do it.
13:15So you can.
13:16You can't function as a football team moving forward.
13:19Like, it's not feasible to do it.
13:21Right.
13:22It's not possible.
13:23$56 million would accelerate.
13:25Katie Drummond.
13:25$56 million would accelerate on the next year's cap in addition to $31 million already there,
13:29replacing his $45 million in base salary on the books.
13:33Nothing else after 2027.
13:34The new team takes on the remaining 2026 base of $1 million plus $100,000,000 in base across 27
13:42and 28.
13:43Yeah.
13:43If you do this, you don't care about the cap because you know you're going to be terrible anyway.
13:49So that's why the cap thing doesn't necessarily play into it.
13:54Because if you do this, you know you're going to be in for a two to three year.
13:59You are cutting people.
14:00Absolutely.
14:01You're getting rid of everybody.
14:02It's not just trading Dak.
14:03It's trading Dak and then it's removing people from your roster to just save money.
14:07You're gutting your team.
14:08You are starting literally from scratch if you do it.
14:12And for some, that's okay.
14:15For some, that's okay.
14:17If you see that in three years, are they going to be a Super Bowl champion?
14:22If the answer is no, then it's okay to do that.
14:25If you think there's a chance, then you can't do it.