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00:00that is josh allen and the game's first touchdown by the way it took a while that was uh that's
00:07one
00:07of those ones where if you bet kaliki latu first touchdown score you knew it was the second quarter
00:12and you probably were like oh i'm dead in that but stuff nobody feels like doing after practice
00:17and never complains and everybody likes that guy so it was great to see him get on the board last
00:23night all four tight ends caught footballs last night which i found interesting um in the same
00:29and all the sabers here you know it's it's i've got a problem folks i think about the sabers a
00:36lot
00:36thank you joe callie i needed to get hit with one of those before you got out of here on
00:41friday
00:42um i i often do that because i think so much about the sabers that anytime i'm thinking about a
00:48sports
00:48point the team i'm mostly thinking about is the sabers but i gotta you know i'm i'm i'm getting
00:54there on the bills don't don't worry i promise i will i will i will improve i'm only i'm still
00:59young in here all right folks all right but we are in here discussing the bills 23 to 6 victory
01:06over
01:06the minnesota vikings last night and the upcoming trade deadline that is today at 4 p.m i think we
01:13all
01:14expect brandon bean to make a move what that is how big it is how happy it makes people that
01:22is what
01:23i think we're all wondering today i think we all agree if there was no move made there would be
01:28some
01:29very uh confused football fans out there i would say but 803 05 50 is the number if you have
01:37a thought
01:37on the bills winning last night the bills trade deadline strategy any trade deadline stuff the
01:44jags made three moves yesterday to just completely supercharge their defense really impressive
01:52really gutsy stuff from the jags their gm maybe deserves a lot of rep for being mr aggressive guy
01:59i mean after what he did to get travis hunter at the draft and this day yesterday that is pretty
02:06uh
02:06that shows a lot of guts shows a lot of guts i'll tell you but like i said anything any
02:12thoughts on
02:13any of that you want to talk about sabers sneak them in today you know i'll be happy to do
02:16that as i
02:17just mentioned they're always on my mind they play tomorrow night against the tampa bay lightning
02:23uh but yeah we will go back to the phones here get connected with the fans brought to you by
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02:31emmet in toronto has been waiting patiently on hold how are you doing emmet hey good how are you doing
02:38today i'm great i just want to talk about the fact of the trade deadline i wanted to kind of
02:43touch on
02:44the fact that i think we're taking or beans taking old josh allen for granted more recently and i think
02:49we got to stop worrying about value and getting so precise on saving a third or a fourth rounder
02:57and really just go all in this year because if anyone's going to make a difference and help us
03:02make the super bowl we should get that guy there shouldn't be a third fourth fifth rounder getting in
03:08that way and i think that there's guys out there that other gms have offers for that being thinking
03:14is too rich for us which i think is ridiculous i think we got to go all in really understand
03:18that
03:19we have josh allen and just not be nervous at the deadline today yeah i'm with you i'm with you
03:26emmet i
03:26think that it is i said it earlier i phrased it this way every season you've got this quarterback
03:33healthy it is justified for you to make whatever move you think you want to make at the deadline
03:39because you could win any single year that this quarterback is playing in the playoffs
03:44and if you've got an opportunity out there to massively improve your team by giving up
03:50significant draft capital i think at this point we have seen the attempts to build the team through
03:57the draft we've had a lot of years of that man and it hasn't gotten all the way to the
04:02top
04:02and we can look around and and look at some of these other organizations that have taken big
04:07swings the eagles the rams the jags this season and those teams are finding a lot of success
04:14and i think you owe it to yourself and to this fan base to give that strategy a try if
04:20we have seen
04:21for this many years with this quarterback the other try and so i think it's it's totally warranted
04:28to want want something big we did get our first trade i've seen today just a few minutes ago the
04:34bangles are trading a sixth round pick to the eagles for arnold abedique i believe is how you hit that
04:41one nail that joe cali i i think so i'm also not 100 sure so we're gonna go with it
04:46yeah you know
04:47that's you won't have to say his name more than like just now that's right that is right let me
04:52let
04:52me let me do a little research here i know i know i can find the the correct pronunciation i
04:57i i
04:57i'm a pet peeve about i got a pet peeve about this i like to get it right abo kt
05:02abo kt sorry
05:03sorry everybody it's abo kt i'll never say the name again now but the bangles had a depth defensive
05:10end nothing nothing big maybe the kind of move i might be expecting today from bean uh if that's it
05:16today from bean i i think i would be disappointed but i would take it over nothing uh i'll say
05:22that
05:22so that that's their uh bangles and that again the eagles shipping people out i'm really curious about
05:29what their deal is we've also got reports that what do you know the vikings are in the quarterback
05:34market what do you here's here's a question for you out there what do you think is a bigger favorite
05:40right now the bills to trade for a safety or the vikings to trade for a quarterback what do you
05:46think is more likely i i think that both are above a 50 chance right now and i think i
05:53would lean
05:54towards the vikings making a move at quarterback but i think it's close i think both are highly likely
06:00moves to that we see made today at some point uh and then yeah that's it we got josh sweat
06:06might be
06:06available defensive end for arizona that might be interesting if the if the price is right i would be
06:12interested in adding a player like that sweat is not a super old player so he's a guy that you
06:19could
06:19you could project to have on the team for a few years he's 29 he's he's around so that that
06:25might
06:25be one edge rusher that i would i would be interested in probably about as low in that market as
06:31i would
06:31be willing to go for it to matter for this unit but we'll see i think there's plenty out there
06:37for the
06:37bills to do i have been historically just the last week or so i i like the idea of adding
06:44a receiver
06:44to give yourself a better insurance policy against a dj moore injury by the way what was up with the
06:50dj moore's not playing yesterday and then he is 20 minutes later what what happened with that i i i
06:57we should have asked dj about that this morning i don't know why we didn't that was a miss by
07:01us i
07:01should have but man i got got i i yeah posted about it i was like what happened and everyone's
07:07like it's fake and i'm like why was it reported by espn it was on espn i don't know it
07:12was weird i
07:13don't understand what happened with that situation but whatever that's beside the point i would like
07:18to see a more significant insurance policy taken out on dj moore because he's been in and out this
07:25season and and that's given me a little bit of concern and frankly even if he's healthy i think you
07:30could use an upgrade in that in that room uh especially with joshua palmer being hurt and
07:35and likely out for for a good chunk of time we know he's going to miss at least four games
07:39three more after yesterday because he's been placed on ir all right we'll go back to the phones here
07:45hear from you guys the fans please i mean i'm having a great time today with you guys we have
07:50loved
07:50on this show we i mean sorry to the other shows on the station we feel like our calls are
07:56kicking
07:57the crap out of everybody else's calls you guys rule you guys come with good points and you're
08:02measured you know mostly i i shouldn't blanket that but you guys have been great with us and we really
08:08appreciate it we want to have you guys be really significantly involved on this show it it it helps
08:15it's part of why we are the voice of the fans here at wgr we like to hear from you
08:20we like to if you
08:21want to fight with me about something let's fight i'll give you a hug after don't worry i don't hold
08:25grudges we're all good here i got in a big twitter thing yesterday with aaron quinn who i actually
08:31really like but i we got into it about being and making big moves so you know let's let's have
08:37some
08:37debate here i enjoy it very much but mike in orchard park is up next we'll see if he wants
08:42to debate me
08:42on anything i kind of doubt it but what do you got for me today mike hey man hey man
08:48no i'm not here
08:48to challenge you but hey i just want to say uh love your show man it's nice to hear some
08:52new voices on
08:53wgr man so i i just just wanted you know give a shout out to um to you and your
08:58whole team there
08:59man it's cool appreciate that talking about the game here uh man i i just the bills man seven one
09:05i mean i'll take it all day like in the past we've seen the bills drop games like this and
09:11put us in a
09:12spot where we're playing away and we're you know the end goal here is to chase the number one seed
09:18so regardless of the situation we the bills keep proving in and out that we can win games
09:24in all different ways shootout a defensive game run game i just felt like the bills this this was a
09:30win we really needed for this team and we are in a good opportunity to keep chasing that number one
09:36seed so that's that that that is uh my first point second point i just feel like we got to
09:41get a safety
09:42you you can't you can't with this team with this quarterback go go in the playoff and not try to
09:49use all your resources to win the championship and nothing gets smart nothing against you know stone
09:55but it's not it we need a safety we need to feel general i i i just i don't care
10:00who they trade for
10:01but you have to use your resources and chase this championship and that's what i'm hoping to see from
10:06the bills is brandon bean make the call ask these draft picks like this is our time i feel good
10:13about this team this team can win a super bowl and this team will will win a super bowl so
10:18i'm just
10:19brandon bean if you're listening please man for for for buffalo let's let's get this championship this
10:25year man give us a safety it's what we need it's what this team needs yep i uh i don't
10:31hate the safety
10:31idea mike i my my philosophy on it has been if if there is a guy that that brandon bean
10:40and the
10:41bills organization feels will give cole bishop the comfort that he had when he had jordan poyer next
10:47to him last season when he was playing the best football of his career if you can stick a guy
10:52like
10:52that next to bishop that that is the move that is absolutely worth doing i don't think a replacement
11:00level safety that might not have the communication skills or whatever it is that made bishop feel
11:06that way and even i think with hamlin out there he's had shades of this of just i can do
11:13my job
11:13i don't have to worry about what cj gardner johnson is doing across from me because we all know that
11:18he
11:19was freelancing and he was making bishop's life much more difficult and if you can add a player who is
11:24both more effective at actually doing the job and gives bishop that comfortability that's worth doing
11:32and i would do that above just about anything if there's not that kind of move out there which i
11:38don't know what that is it could be buddabaker it could not be buddabaker it could be nick cross
11:43or there could be nobody out there that they think fits that way and if that's the case i still
11:49think a
11:49move is worth making and that's when i turn to a wide receiver insurance policy and that's when i
11:56think it's it's valuable enough of a position to to make that the move and i really doubt we see
12:04that
12:04today but that's just me that's that's how i feel that's what i would like that's what i would do
12:09if
12:09i had the job clearly i don't i'm sitting here talking to you on the radio which i love doing
12:13by the
12:14way i would maybe rather be doing this um but i think that it's it's those opportunities are out
12:21there i would love i mean there's nothing that would make me happier than for a a massive seismic
12:30out of nowhere move to be made by the bills today i don't need like i don't expect it i'm
12:36not gonna be
12:37mad if it doesn't happen but that would be i mean a dream come true if it comes out today
12:43it's like
12:43oh the eagles are selling stuff off here's devontae smith for a first round pick in a second
12:48and like now you are whoa oh my god this team is going to be unstoppable or the defensive side
12:56of
12:56the ball max crosby like okay let's do it he's he realizes this year isn't what it was when they
13:02started three and oh and maybe he's ready to go in a way that he wasn't this off season after
13:07everything went to crap with the ravens uh one of those moves that would be for me i don't even
13:13care
13:14what would happen after that you could get to the playoffs losing the first round this year and miss
13:19next year the the willingness to take that swing to me is is really what i i want and i
13:27i know that's
13:28difficult and i can't demand that today but i want i want to feel like the gm wants to do
13:33that kind of
13:33and i haven't felt like that for a few years now um and that's that's tough i'm very curious where
13:40they end up today what ends up happening some interesting numbers here for buddha baker who is
13:45one of if not the biggest rumored guy that the bills are in on i mean joe buck talked about
13:52joe
13:52brady talking about him last night on the broadcast for the game so we know they're thinking about it
13:57but this is just spot track very good information to have just context new team that would be a
14:03acquiring buddha baker we'd have to pay him 7.3 million guaranteed today on 20 in 2026 on their
14:10salary cap 2027 will be 17.8 the cardinals would be eating 11.9 this year and 3 million next
14:17year
14:17so it's not a huge amount of money but you've got to do a little work to fit it in
14:23but to me the
14:25jags went into yesterday with less cap space than you have now i i i don't want to hear anything
14:30about
14:30cap space anymore that what the jags did yesterday completely takes that away from me uh by the way
14:38if you didn't if you didn't see this yesterday just to recap the day the jags had they acquired first
14:44safety jesse bates who is connected to the bills the other big safety idea aside from buddha baker
14:49they acquired jesse bates from the falcons for a 27 second and a 28 fifth followed that up by acquiring
14:57devon godchow of the new new orleans saints depth player on the line not not crazy but they pay a
15:03conditional sixth round pick in 28 or 27 depends on the condition so they acquire a tackle a safety
15:10and all a second team all pro safety this is a good safety and then later in the day they
15:16go get
15:17jordan davis for a first round pick and a second round pick all in one day at one deadline coming
15:24into the day with less cap space than the bills have right now so i don't i don't need to
15:28hear
15:29anything about how hard josh allen's contract makes the trade market for brandon bean i'm sorry the job
15:35is to figure that out and just as much of the problem with your salary cap right now the the
15:42same level to
15:43me of problem that josh allen's contract is is the fact that you keep giving out these middling contracts
15:49to players that probably aren't worth it joshua palmer's contract is not helping you that is
15:55hurting you in terms of your flexibility you've got terrell bernard who we're all pretty mad at this
16:00season on a big contract extension like there are there are other reasons for the cap strap nature
16:07of the bills salary cap situation aside from they've got the best quarterback on the planet
16:12and i'm sorry i'm not going to listen to that being an excuse for why you can't go get good
16:17players
16:17that i i will not accept the the rams this season have a top 10 quarterback contract
16:23and they went out and got trent mcduffie and miles garrett in one offseason you can figure it out i
16:29just don't want to hear it anymore all right back to the phones we are by the way we're going
16:33to hear
16:34from tim graham at 11 30 here coming up next tim graham is going to give us a call he
16:38has settled in at
16:39the airport get his thoughts on what we saw last night from the bills in their 23 to 6 victory
16:45over
16:46the minnesota vikings back to the phones though getting connected with our fans brought to you
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16:57columbus you are on the air what's up what's up owen how are you i'm doing great great great to
17:05be
17:05with you and thanks for taking my call of course yeah i'm just absolutely in agreement um i've been
17:12a bills fan for 55 years i went to uh my first game of the year they opened up the
17:17old stadium
17:18i've been waiting a long time but um i'm just just totally in agreement with you on first if you
17:26take a
17:27look at beans drafts and i encourage everybody to take a look at him his success is really not in
17:34the first round his successes have been in later rounds um what player has he drafted in the first
17:43round that you would say outside of josh allen now is a hit out of the park a pro bowler
17:50guarantee
17:51he's he's a bruce smith a cornelius bennett any of those things the closest i the closest i would
17:58say right now will would be gregory rousseau but that's new this year sure sure i agree with you
18:04on rousseau how long that took six years right but i'm glad it's here and i would say i would
18:10go
18:10with rousseau too but the rest of them oliver um dalton kinkade um you know not bad players but
18:23not huge impact players at this point in their in their careers they could end up being that but
18:31right they're not and then you got some i mean tyerium stuck in there and uh maxwell harrison it's just
18:38bad
18:39yeah it is bad and the the thing with it is you you come in every every time you don't
18:49get one of
18:49these big deals across the right line right brandon bean when he when he last season at the deadline
18:54it's the jaylen wattle thing and the price was just not right and they didn't want to do it in
18:59division but the price wasn't right and the justification for that is well i don't want to
19:03give up these high these assets these assets that turn into really valuable players well if that
19:10asset is never turning into a really valuable player for you and you have an opportunity to go
19:16out and make a move where you can guarantee that it does then you should try to do that once
19:22in a while
19:23you don't need to hold on to every one of these first round picks so that you can trade back
19:27to
19:28accumulate more of those players i i what you need what has been our biggest complaint out there
19:34what what about this team about brandon bean even specifically about how this roster is built it is
19:42this team has a bunch of players who are pretty good and there's nobody in there that's amazing
19:48right and where do you get amazing players in the first round of the draft where they are highly
19:57touted because they are great athletes in college because they are amazing projected players and when
20:05this team picks in that round it far too often does not result in anything close to that and that
20:14to me
20:15is why this team has a lack of game breakers they refuse to use those picks on players active in
20:24the
20:24league through the trade market and they don't hit on them when they use them and so what are you
20:30going
20:30to do where's your game breaker where where is that guy coming from you're not taking the risk of
20:34the deadline and you're not hitting at the draft what is how far is this team from a super bowl
20:42right now
20:44it's not far every year they are a play away in the playoffs from getting through and beating
20:50the team right in front of them and we all believe that they are right there and if you're that
20:57close
20:58one player of that caliber of a game breaker that you either get in the first round through the draft
21:05or trade a first round pick for could be the difference between a win and a loss in january
21:11and that's what it is all about that's what the whole thing's about man and if you're not taking the
21:18risk
21:18ever then i i don't know how i'm supposed to think that you're anything other than fearful of falling
21:24short and if you're fearful of falling short and that's why you're not making these decisions
21:28then you probably shouldn't have the job if you're scared and that's why you're not making big moves
21:35and i'm not claiming this is the case i want to be very clear about that i'm not assuming that
21:40about
21:40brandon bean but at some point without these big moves after getting hurt by the vaughn miller one
21:47that's gonna have to be asked and if that's the case then i'm i'm i'm i got a big problem
21:54but we don't know that the deadline is still hours away four and a half hours away from the deadline
22:00there is still time i still expect the move to be made we will see we'll take one more call
22:05here
22:06before we go to break and talk to tim graham of the athletic and our midday show here steven texas
22:12is up next how's it going hey it's going good i am just going to have a little discussion with
22:18you
22:18about the taking the ball thing at the beginning of the half please do all right so first thing about
22:24it is we always hear about how these guys love the routine and they love knowing what's coming
22:31and the other team is always going to defer and give you the ball and if we always take the
22:37ball they
22:38know they're going to be starting with it every time and that's something they can plan on and i
22:41think mentally for these guys they like having that stability yeah i think that makes sense but is
22:50that is that feeling worth the actual advantage that double dipping provides to you steve i think it's
23:00you know you can say it's an advantage but it's also like how we look at going forward on fourth
23:05down
23:06you know going forward on fourth and two or fourth and three is a bigger advantage to buffalo than it
23:13is for you know like the team we played last night with carson wentz i think that you know mathematically
23:21it's such a small difference that i think you have to look at it like for the team because that
23:26this
23:27is a chance to dictate how they play that second half by going up 14 nothing in the first half
23:33by taking
23:34the ball and you you dictate the entire game when you take that ball first if you're able to pull
23:40it
23:40off and i think that's the gamble that they're trying to go for right i i get that and i
23:46agree
23:46that the context does matter the context being that you have josh allen and he's probably going to score
23:51i and i appreciate that and i get why that would be that would set you up in a positive
23:56game script
23:57that helps direct the rest of the game in a direction that you can control now i appreciate that thought
24:03process i even might like it but i just think that the opportunity provided at the end of the half
24:10and then into the first half or into the second half it it allows you to control much more of
24:16the
24:16game in that at that time when you have more information about where the game has gone what
24:21you need to do to win and i just i just think you're you're making you're giving yourself that
24:26advantage later and i find that to be more valuable personally but it's a good debate obviously joe
24:32brady feels it's the right decision for his team to go out there and take the ball first and try
24:36and
24:36score every time and that's fine all right wgr is joining the buffalo city mission in the 12 days of
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