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The Eagles are in full sell mode after a rough start to the season. Why isn't Washington doing the same thing?
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00:00NFL trade deadline a little more than five hours away, five and a half hours away.
00:06I want to have a trade deadline discussion.
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00:13Just step in and go.
00:15And I want to be clear that this conversation requires a ton of context.
00:20Not everybody's here for context.
00:21People often just want to get takes off.
00:24But there are some facts here.
00:27The Eagles are 2-7.
00:30They've played nine games.
00:31They've won two of them.
00:32Commanders are 2-5-1.
00:34They've played eight games.
00:36They've won two of them.
00:37Eagles have a minus 73-point differential.
00:40Commanders have a minus 30-point differential.
00:42The Eagles and the Commanders have split in their two games this season.
00:46Washington lost week one in Philly.
00:48Washington won ten days ago at home.
00:53The Eagles have given up on their season.
00:55Now a huge part of that is their quarterback going down.
00:58Jalen Hurts out for the year dealing with blood clots.
01:01Serious medical situation.
01:02We hope everything is okay.
01:04Your quarterback goes down for a team that didn't look all that good anyway.
01:08And they're punting on the year.
01:10We've seen Howie Roseman do this before.
01:12He did it in 2020 when Wentz was hurt for them yet again.
01:20They had drafted Hurts by then.
01:23Then they benched Hurts in a week 17 loss to Washington to go to Nate Sudfeld.
01:30It is really important to point out that the Eagles have had tremendous success over the last, I mean really
01:38like almost, I mean when you were playing up there like late 90s, early 2000s.
01:43The Donovan era, the Andy Reid era, they did not get over the hump but they were in the playoffs
01:48seemingly every season.
01:49Every damn year.
01:49Then you bring Doug Peterson in.
01:51They go on to win a Super Bowl unexpectedly with Nick Foles.
01:56Then they can Peterson after the 2020 season bring in Sirianni.
02:01For all of the talk of Sirianni, and I think there's a very legitimate chance he's fired at the end
02:05of the year, he's been nothing but a winner in Philly.
02:08They've been to two Super Bowls, they've won one, perennial playoff team, Howie Roseman has drafted super well, their free
02:16agent signings have been strong, they're aggressive in trade markets, both to bring players in and to send players out.
02:24And so yesterday the biggest headline, maybe the Jeffrey Simmons trade was bigger, but the biggest headline yesterday for sure
02:34is the Eagles sending Jordan Davis to Jacksonville for a first this year and a second in 2029.
02:41Looking at the Eagles' future draft picks, in this year's draft, which will be on the Mall in D.C.,
02:49the Eagles have a first round, they have two first round picks, a second round pick, and a third round
02:54compensatory pick.
02:56So that is presumably four picks in the top 100.
03:01Jacksonville's first, the way Jacksonville's playing, you're probably talking about, call it 25 or something, you know?
03:08I mean, the way the season is right now, the Jags would pick 25th, the Eagles have that pick.
03:14The Eagles pick, though, if the season ended today, and it doesn't, but if it did, the Eagles would have
03:19the fifth overall selection.
03:22One thing that is folly that always happens is people six months ago would have told you this is the
03:27best quarterback draft in history.
03:28Once these kids start playing, you've got a little more questions about it.
03:32I don't even know if Arch is a first rounder at this point.
03:35I bet by the time we get to next April, down on the Mall, he goes in the first round,
03:39based largely on his last name and people thinking the development possibilities.
03:44I find it hard to believe, just knowing the contract structure and where Hurts was in this Eagles offense, I
03:53thought they were going to try to move on from Jalen Hurts anyway.
03:57Now that you've got this blood clot situation and Hurts, I don't know how much he trusts the medicals of
04:03the organization.
04:05I find it hard to believe Jalen Hurts is there as their starting quarterback next year.
04:09With the fifth overall pick, could the Eagles look to draft a quarterback?
04:14I'm looking just at Tankathon.
04:16I think there's zero question that Jeremiah Smith's the best player in this draft and he should go number one,
04:21receiver out of Ohio State.
04:23Tankathon right now, a kid from Oklahoma State, messed a maker.
04:27They have third, that'd be the first quarterback taken to the Dolphins, who obviously need a quarterback.
04:32They have Darian Mensah, the gifted quarterback from Miami, going sixth to the Jets, which I would hate for him
04:39because going to the Jets is likely a death sentence on his career.
04:42But that would be the Eagles passing on Mensah at five to take a tackle out of LSU and Jordan
04:50Seton.
04:51That's going to change a zillion times between now and April.
04:54But the Eagles look to be in position to draft a quarterback with a top ten pick, should they want
04:59to.
05:00And beyond that, the Eagles are just loaded.
05:02They have two firsts at 27, two firsts at 28, two seconds at 28.
05:07Go to 29, they have a first, two seconds, and a third.
05:10This is how he does.
05:12I think Philly got old, the window with this current roster closed, and now they're going to look to rebuild
05:19it.
05:20You compare that to Washington, where you have a Dan Quinn, Adam Peters-led team that doesn't have the pieces
05:30to trade away to acquire this kind of capital.
05:33They just don't.
05:35They also don't have the winning capital that Howie Roseman has acquired.
05:42Like, Howie has shown you, I can do this, and I'm going to do it again.
05:46AP and DQ don't have that.
05:48They don't have the pieces to trade away.
05:50They don't have the wherewithal to tell ownership, we know what we're doing, this is what we're doing.
05:57I also don't know, I talk about it all the time, self-preservation league.
06:03Obviously, AP and DQ had the first year in 2024 where they won 12 games, went to the NFC title
06:09game.
06:09Last year, you go 5-12, you got a hurt quarterback for most of the season.
06:13This year, you're 2-5-1.
06:17I don't know where this season's going.
06:18They cannot do the little stuff right.
06:20That could be a player issue, a coaching issue, all of the above, some combination.
06:28Their ground, terra firma for DQ and AP, ain't all that firma.
06:33Like, they have significant issues, but my question for you, Brian, is the approach.
06:41And I recognize the Eagles have the long-term mindset that they know this year is cooked for them,
06:48and they're punting on it.
06:51Washington, Dan Quinn has said publicly, that's not how we operate, we're never going to do that.
06:56I believe Adam Peters said that as well, publicly.
06:59We saw that late last year, Week 18, Josh Johnson gets the win in Philly over an Eagles team
07:05that was sitting everybody as they prepared for the playoffs.
07:10Considering they both have two wins at this stage of the season,
07:13like if Philly wanted to, they could say, we're going to try to claw back in this division.
07:17They're not saying that.
07:19Would you rather, as a player, and now as a commenter, but somebody that cares greatly about this organization,
07:27would you rather have the no tanking approach, or would you rather a team embrace the tank like Philly is?
07:33See, the thing about it, Jay, is like, I don't look at it as that simple as having a no
07:38tanking or embrace the tank,
07:39because I look at the Philadelphia Eagles, who, like you said, won two Super Bowls of late.
07:43Also, they are way ahead of the Washington Commandments when it comes down to talent on the football team.
07:48They also are ahead of them on just actually having talent where you can get rid of a guy
07:52and get to a first and a second bat.
07:55Washington doesn't have that.
07:56And then when you go deeper into it, Harvey Rosen has already proven what he can do.
08:01So his owner is like, go do it.
08:04I would have to believe that Adam and Dan right now are fighting to keep themselves together.
08:08So you're going to tank?
08:09If you are fighting for a job, you can't tank.
08:13You've got to show that you can turn it around.
08:15So both of those guys are in different positions right now.
08:18Howie's in, hey, we ran to the point with this one, we're going to get rid of this guy, get
08:24some other picks,
08:24and we're going to be right back in the next year or year after next.
08:27The other two are in a position of we might be going at the end of this year.
08:32Howie's not going anywhere.
08:33You know, so I think that's where it comes down to.
08:37You are still trying to prove to your bosses on this side when it comes to Washington
08:42that we can handle this job.
08:44We can do this job.
08:47The other side has already done it multiple times.
08:50So he ain't going nowhere.
08:53Totally.
08:53Now, Howie is the guy who's stirring that.
08:57He's the one stirring the drink, stirring the gumball.
08:59Howie wants to stir something.
09:01Howie would say, listen, I'll give me another coach up in here with all these players.
09:04We're going to win again.
09:05And I don't think Jeffrey Lurie would say, I don't know, one time.
09:10He'll be like, go do it.
09:11You've already done it before.
09:13Over here, Josh is not looking at either one of them saying, I know what you're capable of.
09:18He know what they did the first year, but he hasn't seen it since.
09:20So now they're trying to prove to him that, hey, look, we did turn it around.
09:25We'll keep it.
09:26We'll keep it going.
09:26So that's why one team is tanking and one team is fighting, because they've got to fight to prove themselves.
09:36What's interesting is you have ownership here that has demonstrated professional sports patience.
09:44Josh Harris was the owner of the Sixers during the process, which had to be grueling and terrible.
09:49And he went through it, came out the other side.
09:53Really, the process had nothing to do with how good the Sixers are now.
09:56You got Embiid, but most of those other acquisitions didn't really work out.
10:00But Harris has shown patience as a professional sports owner.
10:05Harris, however, has also shown an understanding of when to call it, when to throw in the towel.
10:12Harris' first year here in 2023 was Ron Rivera's last year.
10:18And that team was bad.
10:20And at the trade deadline, they traded away Chase Young and Montez Sweat.
10:24They got a second for Sweat, a third for Young.
10:28Both those guys are still playing at a high level.
10:30But they recognized, we're bad.
10:33We're probably not going to sign these guys.
10:35Let's get what we can.
10:36And there is no way Ron Rivera wanted to trade those guys away.
10:41He wanted to try to keep winning games.
10:43Ron was running the show then.
10:45Marty Hardy, Martin Mayhew, whoever else was involved.
10:47That was a call from ownership to sell.
10:51I don't know that that call is coming right now.
10:54But they also don't have pieces like Chase Young and Montez Sweat to sell.
10:58They don't.
10:58They don't.
10:59But then again, remember this too.
11:01None of those guys were Josh's decisions.
11:05All those guys were decisions that were made before him.
11:08It's different when you come into a team and you take over a team.
11:11It's easy to get rid of those guys.
11:14Since he's come in, everybody has – he made these decisions.
11:17Adam.
11:18Great point.
11:18Dan, all those.
11:19So it's easy to get rid of people you didn't pick.
11:22But it's not easy to get rid of people that you picked because now you're saying you made a mistake.
11:27See what I'm saying?
11:27So it changes up a little bit.
11:29It's chicken and egg and it's self-preservation because you look at the draft picks since Adam Peters took over.
11:38And specifically at this point, like if you look at where they are contractually with the second and third rounders
11:48that were taken in the 2024 draft where they had a lot of ammunition, a lot of that was from
11:53the Chase Young and Montez Sweat trades, right?
11:55Like you had opportunities there.
11:57And they selected five players because they moved further back.
12:01They selected Johnny Newton, Sam Ristill, Coleman, McCaffrey, and Sennett.
12:09Not necessarily in that order, but those are the five players selected with those second and third picks that they
12:13acquired by sending away Chase Young and Montez Sweat.
12:18And you don't really have a tradable asset in the bunch.
12:21Yeah.
12:22That, I don't know how you reconcile that if you're Harris.
12:29I mean, you probably can't, you know, but you got to swing for the fences once again.
12:34And that's the whole thing about it.
12:36You got to, until you get and hit on a lot of those picks and build, I say it every
12:41year about building a nucleus, building a base.
12:45But I think everyone gets so caught up into the hot thing right now, there is such a thing as
12:50having people that you know you can count on.
12:53And once you get that 10 to 15 people on your team, now you can do a lot of moving
12:58around, like the Eagles are doing.
13:00But when you don't have that, you can't do that.
13:02You got to hit picks.
13:04Yeah.
13:04And I think that's the ultimate thing.
13:06That's something Philly has done.
13:07It comes down to hitting on those picks.
13:10Even if you go out into the trade market, like, you want to make sure you hit on that too.
13:15There's too many times we've gone and drafted and traded for people and they don't work.
13:19You know, if you go trade for somebody, you give up something, and you get three, four years out of
13:24them, you made that.
13:25That's okay.
13:26But if you get one year or no years out of those people, that's a hell of a problem.
13:30That's a miss.
13:32Like the cornerback, that was a miss.
13:36You got nothing from that.
13:37Lattimore.
13:38Yeah, you give up stuff for Lattimore and you got nothing from him.
13:42So that sets you back two, three years.
13:46You know, so now you got to dig out of that hole.
13:48So it's been a situation of they've tried and didn't work.
13:53So now you're in a position of trying to get back to square one.
13:57And I know everybody, every fan, everybody in the meeting, we wanted to jump right back to it.
14:02But it ain't going to happen the quick way.
14:04We're not going to just buy our way into it.
14:06Sometimes you got to build it a little bit.
14:08And I know basketball is different than football.
14:10But you still going to have to make sure you find a way to get a nucleus.
14:14The problem is three years in, the portions, maybe it's not complete,
14:19but the portions of what should be your nucleus don't appear to be there.
14:23800-636-1067.
14:25800-636.
14:271-0-6-7.
14:28Philly tanking.
14:29Washington doesn't appear to be.
14:31Do you want them to?