00:00All you care about is yourself. What happened to your husband? What happened to your child?
00:03What happened to your husband? What happened to your child? What are you talking about?
00:15Virtual reality.
00:17Hi, I'm Denny Marfite. I'm Evan Real.
00:19And this Reiki episode stressed me out so much. Stress isn't even the correct word. It was
00:26heartbreaking. It really was heartbreaking. I mean, let's just jump right into it. This whole
00:30situation between Mary and Angie Kaye. I know, I know in my heart, Angie Kaye did not mean to say
00:36that. Now I, I know. It like, it's just, it was abhorrent. I, that's the thing. I can't even
00:42work around like the intention. I'm the episode just was last night. I'm like, it's too soon to
00:47talk about the intention. Cause obviously we know, I'm sure she wanted her heart to be in the right
00:52place, but this is kind of the through line of what people were saying to her this episode and
00:56last week's episode. And we love all the Salt Lake City ladies, but like Bronwyn and Whitney
01:00were saying, Angie, you're being really messy lately. And you're kind of acting in a way that
01:04we're not used to. Of course, the viewers and Heather Gay are tapped in that this is probably
01:09because of her marital issues with Sean, but no one else freaking knows that. And instead of like
01:14opening up to everybody or just saying, I'm going through something I don't feel like sharing yet.
01:20She's hitting back with a lot of vitriol. And it's one thing to say that about Bronwyn's
01:23$85,000, blah, blah, blah. It's another thing to say, like you're just calling Whitney annoying,
01:28whatever she wants to say to Whitney to, to bounce back at, uh, Mary. And cause what she did was,
01:34uh, throw her son's death in her face. Yeah. That's just what that was.
01:38It was, it was horrible. I think that she was seeing red. She was seeing black. I don't think
01:42she was thinking whatsoever, which is an issue, but it's kind of a thing where you retort back at
01:47someone with exactly what they said to you, which was, where is your husband? Where is your kid?
01:51Or what happened to your husband? What about yours? Oh no. What about your husband? What
01:54about your son? What happened to your kid? I think is, and it's like, well, what happened
01:59to her child was he struggled with addiction and died. So it's a, yeah, that was, that was
02:04crazy. It got really dark. And I know you're like, it was like the hitting back with what
02:10was thrown at her, but the fact that she didn't immediately register it and then was having
02:16a toddler tantrum screaming about facials. I'm like, girl, earth to Angie. It was really,
02:25I, I, when Whitney was like, I have to go throw up. Yeah. It was really, really bad. And
02:29I'm sure she is beyond mortified watching it back. And I know on watch what happens. Cause
02:35she was on watch what happened. She was like her and Mary worked through it, but not in the
02:40way they were, because how do you bounce back from that? Mary's a strong, I don't know if
02:44that was me. I don't know if I would be able to bounce back to that. Yeah. To find forgiveness
02:49must've been really big for her. And also the fact that people were all trying to tell
02:52Angie to calm down and she wouldn't let the facial go. And her saying to Bronwyn, I bet
02:57you're happy now. And Bronwyn was like, I don't like you. And I don't want you to stop
02:59because you're messing up to a point of no return. She is your best friend. Stop. Just
03:05talk to me. Don't get upset with her. Not after that. None of us want that for you. I'm married
03:10you and I don't want this for you. I think the anger came from a place of feeling like she
03:15was
03:16being attacked as a mother because I think she interpreted as you don't spend time with your child
03:22because then she, she started yelling about all she does is be at home with Electra. So I think
03:27that's where the anger began. And I guess, you know, like attacking someone's parenting
03:33is definitely, I mean, especially in the housewives world that can really set explosions off. So
03:39I guess that's where it began, but she just like took it to an insane level. And that's
03:43kind of what everyone has been saying about it. And I mean, of course it's that hard thing
03:46where it's like we high body count hair. Angie has these really incredible moments of outbursts,
03:53but we've never seen it dig this deep. Right. I mean, I feel like I think it was even
03:59Bron was like all of the insults anyone has ever said about anybody on the show is not ever
04:03going to compare to this. And it was crazy because right before that, you know, Angie K was just
04:08doing the Angie K thing with the props and she was like little shop of horrors with her,
04:12the leaf and the flower and the snake and the everything. And it was kind of like, it was fun.
04:16It was like, this is typical Angie K behavior. I say what I'm thinking. And with that, it's like
04:24the truth comes out. You know, these also remind me of like a little snake, you know,
04:29and I felt like I was dealing with a little snake. I think it is a little bit of like
04:33getting high
04:34on your own supply because she had the props. She's like, I got my grinder thing. So she's,
04:40I feel, and that's why she's not receiving anything people are saying to her. I think there is a part
04:45of her. And I think maybe unintentionally, and maybe this is because she is going through a
04:49separation to divorce where she wants to be able to feel herself a little bit more. I feel she is
04:55feeling, uh, no flaws. You know what I mean? I think she's feeling impenetrable. And I think it's
05:01because she's building up that wall because of all the she's going through, but she's like,
05:04I'm not going to receive any critiques or feedback someone says to me. And that's where it's like,
05:09like, it'd be one thing because she was crying in the beginning episode, but then she fully stopped and
05:14turned on Mary so much. Yeah. And I mean, Heather said in a confessional, I think that
05:19because she's the only cast member currently privy to her marital woes, that she just felt like Angie
05:25K was going to break at some point. And this, this was the moment. And you choose to break to
05:29your
05:29best friend. Yeah. I know. That's what's, I'm like, it'd be one thing. Right. Yeah. Let Bronwyn all
05:33day. I feel like Bronwyn would have much rather her just rip her apart. Right. And then also I,
05:38what else pissed me off this episode and another thing where everyone, where Bronwyn and Angie were going
05:44back and forth and everyone kept on saying, Bronwyn, let Angie finish talking. And it's like,
05:47they're both yelling at each other. Why would, why can't Bronwyn yell back?
05:51I think there's this group think mentality amongst the cast that Bronwyn steamrolls conversations and
05:57talks over people. So I think they were subscribing to that idea. I don't really see it. I, it's been
06:02said. Maybe, maybe I'm missing it. I don't know. I don't necessarily see it myself, but I just know
06:07that they feel that way. And also when also Angie is like, and I know things that, uh, Sean told
06:13me about
06:13Todd. And then when Bronwyn was like, I know things Todd told me about Sean. Everyone's like,
06:17so you're threatening her. It's a lot of, I'm like, so wasn't she just responding to a threat
06:22that Angie had about her? I mean, for whatever reason, I was like, am I taking like, what's
06:25happening? I feel like collectively the group feels, it feels pretty anti-Bronwyn at the moment. So
06:30unfortunately that I feel like that's, that was the causation. Oh my God. Bronwyn's going to be in
06:34jeans for a while because that's when she's in a bad mood. I kind of feel her on that. I
06:37didn't know
06:38that about her, but I love it. Cause I'm not the big, I wear jeans sometimes occasionally,
06:41but like, I'm not, I don't lean towards jeans all the time. So I was like, oh my God,
06:45I need to maybe make that my thing too. Her jeans for the Kimo Sabe date were like,
06:48those are pretty regular shmegular jeans. And then the jeans to the Reiki, those are fabulous.
06:53And she said, these are fabulous jeans, but they're still jeans. Yeah. So she's like in a
06:57better place. A little bit. Yeah. This Reiki girl too. I should be doing Reiki.
07:00You a Virgo or a Libra? No, I'm a Cancer. You're a Cancer. Okay. We need to find you a
07:04man.
07:06Have you met someone yet? Yeah. I have a man. I know I can feel. Not knowing that Heather Gay
07:13was in a relationship. She was like, well, first of all, she guessed her Zodiac sign two times
07:17incorrectly. And then when she was like, which also I've never felt more seen. Cause that's
07:21to me all the time. I'm like guessing signs wrong all the time, but I'm not paying people
07:24to for Reiki. Right. Exactly. And then she's like, you need a man. And she's like, I have a man.
07:28And she's like, oh, I was sensing that girl. A fabulous moment of Mary. I would have been
07:33with Mary and Lisa protecting your energy. I like my energy. I love me. I love my energy.
07:39Thank you so much. I don't need this. Yeah. No, Reiki is an interesting thing. I was telling
07:42you that I got it done once before and like my, my Reiki healer, she was doing the work
07:48and like only the left side of my body was responding to it. Like it felt like heavy and
07:52like things were moving and grooving and shaking or whatever. Uh, but then afterwards she wasn't
07:56really able to explain to me what that meant or what she did. So I was like, did I, did
08:02you
08:02just like open a portal? I didn't want to. Never forget Jax Taylor and his Reiki. Oh,
08:07they're, they're doing a different kind of Reiki. Yeah. What was it? Do it with the camera
08:12on you. Hold on. Go back to it. What was it? Oh, I, I, he was, yeah, they were allegedly
08:20according to our hearts. Jax, you have enough going on. If you and your Reiki healer are trying
08:23to sue us right now. What in the, good night. Allegedly. Allegedly. Um, but yeah, next week
08:31episode is going to be really rough too, I feel. Yeah. Well, we see in the preview that
08:34Angie's very sorry. I think at a certain point it does register her what she did and said.
08:40She stopped screaming about facials and she got her together. I mean, she said, I want you
08:45what happens live that they get to a better place. She and Mary, but how that unfolds, I am
08:48interested to see. I'm interested to see too. And also like, I know I came in hot for Angie,
08:52but you came in hot for like, this is just an episode. I'm gonna need a breather. Cause
08:57now, now you and Angie got to get to a better place too. I think you can do it. I
09:01think we,
09:01well, I'll see how her and Mary do it and then I'll act accordingly. Okay. It just really,
09:04I mean, I just, it just, let's see. It just really rubbed me the wrong way. I'm sure it
09:10rubbed a lot of people. I mean, it rubbed Mary the wrong way. Her entire cast. It wasn't
09:13cool. It's not cool. It was like, it was like what Brittany did, but like a thousand times
09:18worse. A thousand times worse. Cause Mary actually likes Angie. Yeah. And
09:22their best friends. Right. And she was kind of blaming Mary. It's how the, it's how it came
09:27out. I'm sad. I am too. This was like, you know how Salt Lake City Housewives gets dark
09:33at some point in the season? Here we are. As Mary said, Jen Shaw. Oh, I know. She, I mean,
09:41well, when she threw it, did she throw it? Was it a knife or a fork at the window? Yes.
09:44That
09:44was, that was giving Jen Shaw a little bit. She threw things. Yeah. We'll see what happens. As Anne Hathaway
09:50said in, was it Italy? Comma. Comma. Anne Hathaway needs to be a friend. The girls were trying
09:57to get her to comma. Of course, actually quiet. Just trying to be. I know. She meant
10:01well. She did mean well. Yeah. She's sweet. I think so. Right? Yeah. We'll see what happens.
10:06We'll see what happens. We're talking to her next week. So we'll let you know if she's
10:09sweet or not. I think she is. She seems like a fun time. Yeah. All right. But stay tuned for
10:12all that next week. Goodbye.
10:13Bye-bye.
