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Miles the DJ sits down with Remi Wolf on KROQ Locals Only to talk all about her third studio album, Mud!
Remi opens up about the sonic pivot of her latest record, trading in out-there sound effects for stripped-back, organic production, and raw vulnerability. She shares how creating the album alongside her closest friends helped her process five years of emotions from life on the road, what it was like taking on the "house mom" role in recording Airbnbs, and the story behind her duet "Moon So High" with John Mayer. Plus, she breaks down the inspiration behind the lead single "Bottle" and the band's goal of achieving total "SpongeBob ascension" euphoria.
Remi opens up about the sonic pivot of her latest record, trading in out-there sound effects for stripped-back, organic production, and raw vulnerability. She shares how creating the album alongside her closest friends helped her process five years of emotions from life on the road, what it was like taking on the "house mom" role in recording Airbnbs, and the story behind her duet "Moon So High" with John Mayer. Plus, she breaks down the inspiration behind the lead single "Bottle" and the band's goal of achieving total "SpongeBob ascension" euphoria.
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00:00Hey, what's going on? Miles the DJ here, host of Locals Only on K-Rock every Sunday at 8 o
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00:04with one of the coolest and most consequential artists on the planet right now.
00:07Just released her third studio album, Mud. It is amazing. Remy Wolfe.
00:12Hi.
00:13Welcome.
00:14Thanks for coming to K-Rock.
00:15Yeah, thanks for having me.
00:16I mean that, by the way. Mud is a just spectacular record.
00:20You've been doing some press. You've been out there talking to people I know, right?
00:23What's the response been so far just from, you know, whether it's interviews, fans, shows, etc.
00:28on these new songs?
00:30It's been amazing.
00:33And it's like exceeded my expectations, I think.
00:38I, yeah, I don't know.
00:40I had like some nerves releasing this record because it's kind of a bit of a sonic pivot for me,
00:48like a little step to the left or something.
00:50Um, but it's been, it's been just overall very positive and, and really fun to like see fans
00:59really connect with these songs and, um, like on a deep emotional level.
01:06Yeah.
01:06So that's been, it's been really, really cool to see.
01:09Um, yeah, I've, I've been stoked and happy.
01:14I mean, I can imagine.
01:15It's so good.
01:16The, uh, the pivot and change you referenced there.
01:18What's the biggest one?
01:20You know, I think I, I think I've been known to kind of be this like really fun, funky,
01:29upbeat artist, songwriter, um, was kind of like out there sounds and like sound effects
01:40and different sonics.
01:41And I think for this record, I, I decided really intentionally to, to strip it back and go
01:48more organic and put my vocal super forward and kind of let the songwriting and the lyrics
01:54shine.
01:55Um, and you know, just it's super woodsy and, and a little bit more like roots, rootsy.
02:05Um, and so, yeah, I think that's kind of different from my, from my previous work, but it's still,
02:16it's still very me.
02:17I mean, it's the most me I think I've ever felt on an album.
02:21Um, and it's definitely the most vulnerable and yeah, it's like the most vulnerable I think
02:26I've been in, in my writing thus far.
02:29Is it kind of weird for you to, I don't know, for any artist to put so much effort and
02:34time
02:34and emotion into a project, into a piece of arts?
02:37I think about this with actors too, and they're, they're promoting a movie and you know, you,
02:41you spend so much time on something and then you have to go out there and sort of explain
02:45it or like be vulnerable again.
02:48The process of like, I don't know, like doing press and doing interviews like this.
02:52Like, what's that like for you when you, cause like you listen to this record, you hear,
02:56like you hear it in your heart, like there's so much going on.
02:58And then now we're talking about it.
03:00Are we good?
03:00Is that cool?
03:01Yeah.
03:02Oh, it's, it's so cool.
03:03Yeah.
03:04No, it's, it's super chill.
03:05I mean, first of all, I'm just happy anybody wants to even talk to me about it.
03:08Yeah.
03:08Yeah.
03:09Yeah.
03:09So that's good.
03:10Um, yeah, I mean, it's definitely interesting at this point.
03:15Like I finished the album, you know, earlier this year and I have, I've been kind of removed,
03:20removed from, from that period of my life that I was in emotionally when I was writing it.
03:26Yeah.
03:27Um, and like really the album, writing the album helped me work through a lot of feelings that
03:35I think had gone unprocessed for five years.
03:40Um, while I was on the road and kind of just like up and coming in the industry, like I,
03:46I, there's so much you go through and it moves so fast.
03:51And I think I finally, when I started writing this record, I was finally done with tour.
03:59Um, and I had the time to just kind of sit with my feelings and, and process.
04:07And the album, I think really shows that I was going through it and, and processing.
04:13And I think I came out the other side feeling like a totally different person, um, and just
04:20very emotionally stable, um, maybe for the first time in my life.
04:27So I'm coming into the press feeling very different than I felt on when I was writing
04:34the record, which is a great thing.
04:35Right.
04:36Yeah.
04:37That's amazing.
04:38Yeah.
04:38Cool.
04:38I'm happy to hear that.
04:39I don't know.
04:40And it's, I love talking about making this album because it was the most fun I've ever
04:46had writing an album.
04:47Um, like truly, because I wrote, wrote with all of my really, really good friends, like
04:54my friend, Jared, who I've known for 15 years, my friend, Jack, who I've known since I was
04:5918, my friend, Gigi, who I've known since I was 18.
05:02Um, and I think I was at a time in my life where I really needed grounding.
05:05And I was just like, I'm only going to feel comfortable writing right now.
05:11If I'm with people that know me like really, really well, like kind of rather than doing
05:15the industry run around and, you know, meeting new people, which is fun to do sometimes too.
05:20But I was like, no, like I can't, I can't like take that right now.
05:25Um, and then being in the room with these people allowed me to be really vulnerable and just
05:31really be myself, but then on top of that, because they're all my friends, like we just
05:36had so much fun.
05:37Yeah.
05:38Um, even though the songs are, you know, sad and all that stuff, but it was just
05:43upbeat though, too.
05:44And they kind of put in a weird way, like they, they put you sort of in a, in a,
05:48could put
05:49you in a good mood.
05:50And what I mean by that is like lyrically could be really rough, but if you're experiencing
05:54something similar as a listener, you don't feel alone.
05:57Meanwhile, the, the sonic sensibility of, of the records are pretty upbeat.
06:01Some of them are.
06:02So I come away listening to that album, just fired up and just really excited about just
06:06how great, uh, an artist such as yourself is and new music that's out there in the world.
06:11It gives me hope that we still have so many just incredible artists that are going to
06:14kind of carry the torch, you know?
06:16That's so nice.
06:17Yeah.
06:18I mean, I don't, I don't want anybody walking away from the record being like, oh my God,
06:21I feel like shit or whatever.
06:25Uh, I definitely relate.
06:26I mean, even if it's relatable though, right?
06:28Like people feel comfort, I think, in knowing that others are going through something they're
06:33going through and they're not alone, you know?
06:34Totally.
06:35And, and I've, the response to the record has been exactly that people being like, oh my
06:40God, I'm going through a breakup and I didn't know anybody else felt this way.
06:44And like, you've put words to my feelings that I couldn't express.
06:48And like, as an artist, that's the best thing I could ever hear.
06:51Like that is, that's the highest compliment for me.
06:55So that's, that's, that's been really cool.
06:58And like, I think making this album was a catharsis for me.
07:02Like it felt really cathartic.
07:04Um, and then playing these songs live too.
07:07I think I've done two shows now and, um, and, um, it just feels kind of like this, like
07:16we're all kind of going to this like emotional church for a second and we all can like let
07:21it all go and go into this kind of cathartic state together.
07:24Beautiful.
07:25Yeah.
07:25Talking about making this record with your friends, um, I believe you recorded some of
07:30it or worked on some of it in Big Bear, Electric Lady in New York.
07:34Yeah.
07:35Joshua Tree.
07:36Yeah.
07:36What were, um, you know, some of the things you guys got into outside of actually making
07:40the record in these locations that maybe helped form, uh, what it became?
07:45Oh my God.
07:46Um, I mean, when we were, when we were in Big Bear and we were in Joshua Tree, we were
07:53staying
07:53in these Airbnbs in these houses and I kind of became house mom, um, which is just, I
08:01think it's just my nature.
08:03I kind of go into like caretaking mode, even though we're all there to make my album, but
08:07I'm like, I don't know.
08:08I, I love to cook and I love like family meals and I grew up in a big family.
08:13So like when I was younger, I used to help my mom cook all these big family meals for
08:17my, all my siblings cause I'm the oldest of four.
08:19So that's kind of in me to just be like, Oh, we're making big vats of food.
08:26So every night I would make these massive family meals, um, and I'd make breakfast for
08:31everybody, but we, we did a lot of cooking and a lot of eating.
08:36We would literally like record the songs while I was like making chili in the kitchen and making
08:40the lasagna.
08:41Like, cause we set up all, we set up our studio in the living rooms.
08:46Um, and we were all living together.
08:47So it was, it was like a summer camp almost.
08:51And, um, yeah, we'd be writing the songs, like passing the mic over the, over the counter.
08:56I'd be like singing melodies and like, you know, the voice would be playing and I'd be
09:01like, Oh, that's really good.
09:02Like I'd pop over the chilies like boiling over or whatever.
09:05So we did a lot of that.
09:07Um, and Joshua tree, we went on like sunset walks, which was really beautiful.
09:12And it was in LA, you don't really see the stars.
09:15So it was like nice going out there and looking at the moon and the stars and just feeling kind
09:21of like the vastness of the, of the earth.
09:24And that's kind of how the, our song, uh, moon so high came about was we were, we were
09:29like just looking at the moon.
09:31I had my like stars app where you can like see the constellations and we were like, Oh,
09:37that's like Achilles and that's this.
09:39And, um, but I don't know, we, the annoying slash good thing about me and all my friends
09:47is that we're just kind of like obsessed with like our, our, we're obsessed with writing
09:51songs and we just, it's like our playtime.
09:54Like it's, we're in like a sandbox of, of, of songwriting and that's the fun for us, you
10:01know?
10:01So we kind of, we're just like, Oh, I can't wait to get back to the studio.
10:04Like even when we're in New York, it's like, we'd wake up at noon and then be like, Oh,
10:10I'm let's go to the studio.
10:12Like we'd just walk right to the studio and we'd be there until 4am, 5am.
10:16Um, we'd be working like 15 hours, but just cause it's like so fun, we were just having
10:20a blast.
10:21You wrote like 130 songs for this record.
10:23Yeah.
10:24Is that what I heard?
10:24I did.
10:25Yeah.
10:25How do you filter those records and how do you decide on the final 11 for mud?
10:30Oh man.
10:31Um, I think there's a, there's a feeling that the songs need to have because there's plenty
10:40of songs in the batch of songs that I wrote that I think are great and maybe will come
10:47out one day.
10:48Um, it's not like I wrote like 130 songs and, and 120 of them were, were shit.
10:54Sure.
10:55Um, yeah, of course.
10:56Some of them were shit.
10:57I mean, sure.
10:58Um, law of averages say, yeah, I mean, you got to write some, some bad ones to get the
11:03good ones.
11:04But, uh, I think once I kind of locked in on the fact that I, that the album was going
11:10to be called mud, um, which was maybe midway through the writing process, we wrote the song
11:16called covered in mud.
11:17Um, it really cleared, it cleared the pathway for me.
11:22I could like see the light at the end of the tunnel and sonically I was like, okay, these
11:28songs need to feel muddy and earthy and, and, and grounded.
11:34Um, and lyrically they need to have, you know, kind of a muddy turmoil to them.
11:43So I think I decided kind of midway through, like I'm putting out the songs that feel the
11:49most, um, kind of the, the most, uh, in conflict almost.
11:58Um, because that's just, that's what I was, that's what I was in.
12:04And I kind of made the decision.
12:05I just wanted to be as forthcoming with my actual emotional state as, as I could be.
12:14Um, and yeah, once I had the title, everything kind of cleared up.
12:19What was it about that song that inspired the rest of the writing process?
12:24I think that song, I think I was always kind of trying to write a song like that, where
12:32it's kind of this, um, this is a bad word to use, but it's the word that's popping up,
12:41but like almost this kind of like monotonous storytelling.
12:45That's kind of like, like this storytelling that just is banging you over the head.
12:51Like I, I'm really, I love Kurt Vile.
12:54Yeah.
12:55Um, and Kurt Vile, like one thing I really admire about his work is that he has no fear
13:01in writing these like 10 minute long two chord jams.
13:05Um, Waking on a Sunday, sunny day, right?
13:08Is that his record?
13:08That's like one of the best songs of the last 15 years.
13:10I mean, he's an, he's incredible.
13:12Yeah.
13:12Um, but he kind of, in his music, he's creates this kind of like trance-like state.
13:19Um, and I always wanted to write a song that was kind of trance-like, but, but has this
13:27really intricate storytelling on top of it.
13:29Um, and for mud, I felt like, I don't think mud is necessarily a trance-like, but it's,
13:41we like really, we got that storytelling thing happening over it.
13:44And I was really like talking about, you know, my life on the road and all these weird little
13:49vignettes of experiences that I had gone through.
13:53And, and the tag of it all was like, dear God, I'm covered in mud.
13:57Like I am just covered in shit.
13:59I'm like going through life, but I'm like, I'm covered in dirt.
14:02Like I, I have this like film over me.
14:06Um, I don't even remember your question, but.
14:08Well, it's kind of like, well, going through that experience, like it's like a mud bath or
14:13something, right?
14:14Like you're kind of covered in it, but then it's gone and it's like, it almost makes you
14:17stronger on the other side.
14:18Right.
14:18Is that kind of what this feeling or what this album kind of feels like for you?
14:22Yeah.
14:23I mean, absolutely.
14:24Like, I think you gotta go through, you gotta go through it.
14:29Yeah.
14:29Like if, especially in your twenties, like I feel like everybody that your twenties are
14:35such a hard, weird, exciting, but just, um, hard time of life.
14:41I think, especially now with, with everything that's going on in the world, I think it's really
14:47easy to, to get lost and to get confused and easily influenced by like social media and
14:53everything that's happening around, around us and to feel kind of like out of balance.
14:59And, um, yeah, I think I, I was just going through like, you know, self doubt and, and going
15:09like, I was just underwater.
15:13Like I, I just didn't, I was, I was trying to make sense of my life, like, and all the
15:21experiences that I'd gone through.
15:23And I think mud, um, like you get, if you ever, if you ever been covered in mud, which
15:31I now have been, cause on my album cover, I, not real mud.
15:36I would assume.
15:37It was a half real, half real.
15:40It's like Hollywood mud.
15:41It's actually, it's technically Nickelodeon slime.
15:44That is, that is, um, that is brown somehow.
15:48I think they mixed some dirt into there and, and, uh, maybe put some paint in there and
15:52stuff, but it felt like mud.
15:54I was like, I'm, I'm dirty right now.
15:56Uh, I had, I had mud in every single crevice of my body, like two hour shower after that.
16:01But, um, at first, like when you get in, it's like, oh, like this feels like horrible.
16:08Like you're like, oh, this is icky and gross.
16:11But once you're kind of in it, there's almost a freedom that comes over you and like a release
16:20because you're, you kind of just have to have to like succumb to the fact that you're just
16:24covered in it.
16:25Um, and then you can start to have a little bit of fun.
16:28And I think that that's kind of a nice analogy for any sort of difficult feeling that people
16:38are going through and that I've, I was going through is like, I don't know.
16:42I, I feel like for a lot of my life, I've tried to fight away these negative thoughts
16:47or negative feelings or my depression or my anxiety.
16:49I've tried to like push it away and fight it with, with, uh, I don't know, like repression
16:55or, or alcohol or distracting myself with all this stuff.
16:59And, um, what the real, the only way to get through it is to acknowledge it and to actually
17:07feel it and be with it and kind of learn that it just is part of you.
17:12Sure.
17:12Um, and like maybe not enjoy, but just accept the fact that like life comes along with these
17:20really heavy feelings at times and, and that's what it is.
17:25And the only way to get through that is to accept them and work with it, you know?
17:30And I think for me, I was like, I was working with these feelings and I was like, I'm going
17:34to put it into this music.
17:35And it turned all of this stuff that I'd been through.
17:39It made it super positive for me and like, um, yeah, I was able to turn all of my, all
17:45of my like pain into art and now I'm, now I feel good.
17:50That's great.
17:51That's great.
17:52Yeah.
17:52And in your twenties too, right?
17:54COVID happens, you know, right.
17:56As you're sort of starting to get a lot of, um, you know, notice as a, as a, as a
18:01musician.
18:01Um, there was a like parking lot show that you did.
18:05I remember 20 or 21.
18:08So not only are you going through your twenties, you're going through your twenties with a big
18:11bulk of it during a pandemic and, you know, that, that, that had to have been, uh, but
18:16you know what, what was really cool though?
18:18I remember, I think it was 2022 Coachella comes back on that bill, right?
18:24What was that experience like for you?
18:26What's your relationship with Coachella and your first time playing?
18:29Uh, yeah, I, I love Coachella.
18:33Yeah.
18:33I, I love playing Coachella.
18:35It was like one of the best festival experiences I've ever had.
18:40Um, just like a awesome, awesome lineup, always so many incredible artists.
18:49Um, and those shows are fun too, because you kind of have to like ball out a little bit.
18:54Like everybody kind of puts together a special little Coachella set.
18:58And the year that I did it, I put together a 10 piece band, which was like, it's amazing.
19:03Yeah.
19:04Like kind of, it was a, it was a, it was a mountain to climb, but I, I was like,
19:09I am just
19:09going to play no tracks.
19:11I'm going to play live with my band and this is going to be sick.
19:15And it was, I loved it.
19:16I loved it.
19:17And that show, honestly, being able to do that so early on in my career has like influenced
19:22how I've gone about my live shows since, because I, I just love the feeling of playing with
19:28people.
19:28I love bands.
19:29Like I love being in a band.
19:30I wish, I wish I was in a band.
19:33I mean, I've kind of created a band for myself now.
19:36It sounds like a band, like it's all real musicians and real instruments rather.
19:41Yeah.
19:41Yeah.
19:41And we all played together.
19:42Like a lot of it is like live tracked and as like a core, like there's a core four who,
19:48who played in everything.
19:49And yeah, we call ourselves a family band.
19:52Um, cause we like really are just like a family band.
19:56Yeah.
19:56Um, and now it's awesome because I have somehow convinced my songwriter and producer friends
20:03that don't normally like the tour.
20:04I've convinced them to go on tour with me for this album.
20:07So we're all going to be playing.
20:08Everybody that wrote the record with me is going to be playing the live shows with me.
20:11Um, so I think that's going to be really special for all of us.
20:16And I think hopefully like it's going to translate like all of, all of our love for the music,
20:21I hope will translate to the, to the audience.
20:24Um, cause we just like, I think we're just so proud of this music and we're just, we're
20:29just so stoked to, to sing it with people.
20:32Yeah.
20:32You mentioned moon so high, a song with John Mayer who you grew up a fan of.
20:38And I think he followed you on Instagram or something early on, but how, how did that
20:43rapport starts?
20:44Like when did you find out that John Mayer was like a fan of yours or interested in you?
20:49How did that come around?
20:52So John, he posted my song Liz on his story and I forget what year that was now, but maybe
21:03in COVID, I think, I think it was during COVID at some point.
21:05Yeah, that sounds right.
21:06Um, he posted my song Liz and I was like, Oh my God, like, wow.
21:14Um, I was stoked cause I love him.
21:16And he, um, yeah, he DM'd me and he was like, this is fantastic.
21:21I was like, thank you so much.
21:24Love you.
21:25We had a little convo and we kind of started this little rapport on, on, on the DMs.
21:31Sure.
21:31And, um, and then throughout the years, I kind of, he'd hit me up and he'd be like,
21:36your new record's great.
21:37And I'd hit him up and be like, how do you deal with in-ears on the road?
21:42Like, I'd like ask him questions and, and we'd have kind of like a back and forth and
21:47had like a nice little friendship.
21:48And when we wrote Moon So High, I immediately, when we were finished writing it, I was like,
21:54I want this song to be a duet.
21:56Like, I just hear it in my mind and I hear John on it.
21:59I like could hear his voice.
22:01Um, and I thought that like the song, I thought that he'd liked the song.
22:05I was like, I feel like John would like this and I can just really hear him singing it.
22:08So I kind of sat on that for a little bit and was like, ah, should I, shouldn't I?
22:13Like, I don't know.
22:14Um, and then one day I was just like, you know what?
22:16Like, fuck it.
22:17I'm just going to send him the song.
22:20And, um, I sent it to him on DMs and he got back like two hours later and was like,
22:25this
22:26is fantastic.
22:26Like, let's do it.
22:28And a week later we were in the studio at Chaplin and, and we, uh, yeah, it was like
22:34a great day.
22:35So fun.
22:36It's the old Henson studio, right?
22:38Yes.
22:38Is that right?
22:38Okay.
22:39That John now owns.
22:40Yes.
22:41Right.
22:41He saved it.
22:42Yeah.
22:42I think, cause it was gonna, I think it was going to be torn down.
22:46So important.
22:47So many studios in LA have been shut down and there's just, I don't know.
22:52I think there's such an importance to being able to go to an actual recording studio, whether
22:56it's in LA or London or New York or wherever.
22:58And I just, you know, I love that he saved that studio and artists such as yourself are
23:03still, you know, making music in said studios.
23:06I think that's really important.
23:07Right.
23:07So, I mean, it's, it's so, so important.
23:10And these buildings have so much history, like in the walls, like energetically, even
23:16like you walk into a place like Chaplin or a place like Conway or a place like Electric
23:23Lady and you, you feel the music that's been made in the walls.
23:28Like you feel it.
23:29Like it's, it sounds woo woo or whatever, but, but you feel it.
23:34Like the first time I walked into Electric Lady, we were just walking around and I got chills
23:37all over the place.
23:38I just chills, chills, chills, chills, chills.
23:42And yeah, it's, it's so important for musicians to have a place to, to work.
23:48Yeah.
23:48Everybody else has an office.
23:50We need an office too.
23:51Like separation from like a home studio, right?
23:53Yeah.
23:53Kind of a thing.
23:54And home studios are, are great.
23:56Totally.
23:56Yeah.
23:56And, and I, I respect it.
23:59I love it.
23:59I do not like working in my house.
24:01I, I love that.
24:03This is why I go to Airbnbs and this is why I go all the way to New York to,
24:08to work because
24:08I'm like, I need, I need a different environment to just have a little bit of perspective on
24:16my life.
24:16Like it, I, I like being kind of thrown, I like being thrown off slightly so that my
24:27brain is kind of like, Ooh, this is like, Ooh, what are we actually feeling?
24:32Instead of being in like the creature, yeah.
24:35Like the creature comforts of your own house where you can kind of just go limp and like
24:38start watching TV.
24:39Totally.
24:40Yeah.
24:40Yeah.
24:41Yeah.
24:41It's more inspiring to be out.
24:42Yeah.
24:43Yeah.
24:43Yeah.
24:43Feel those walls speak and all that, you know, a couple more things and I'll get you out
24:47of here.
24:47Um, it's a quick segue.
24:49Just movies are such a thing in the culture again.
24:53Yeah.
24:53Wondering if you've been able to kind of catch any new releases lately.
24:57You can see everything is something people are talking about.
25:00Yeah, I know.
25:00I need to go see it.
25:02Okay.
25:02There's no, there's no seats available.
25:06That's right.
25:06Yeah.
25:07Literally.
25:08I'm like on my AMC app.
25:10Is that what it's called?
25:11AMC?
25:11Yeah.
25:12And there's no, there's no seats.
25:15So I haven't gotten to see it yet.
25:17Every seat, like it's all like front row.
25:20And I'm like, I've done that once.
25:22Sure.
25:22I was on tour and we watched Sinner's front row and my neck is just like tweaked as hell.
25:27And I don't even remember the movie because I'm like scanning the screen back and forth.
25:31So I gotta, I gotta wait until maybe the hype comes down a little bit, but it seems like
25:36it's incredible.
25:37And I love, I love Nathan Fielder.
25:39He's, he rocks.
25:40Yeah.
25:41Trying to think, have I seen any movies?
25:43Uh, I haven't been to the theater in a second, man, but I do watch a lot of old movies.
25:49Um, I got my letterbox rockin'.
25:52Oh, sweet.
25:53Yeah.
25:53Cool.
25:53I'm a big letterbox girl.
25:56And honestly, like, this is going to be maybe embarrassing, but I've been watching like a
26:01lot of Pixar.
26:02Yeah.
26:03Pixar is great.
26:04Soul.
26:04What a movie.
26:05What a movie.
26:06What a film.
26:06Yeah.
26:07I did.
26:07They know what they're doing and it works.
26:09The whole emotional aspect of it all.
26:11They really know.
26:13I know what they're doing and I don't care.
26:14I don't care.
26:15Yeah.
26:15First five minutes, you're going to cry.
26:17Right.
26:17And if it, if you don't cry in the first five minutes, it's not Pixar.
26:20Yeah.
26:21Yeah.
26:21Um, I love, I love Pixar and I love cars.
26:25Like I did a back to back to back cars one, two, three the other day.
26:28As one does.
26:29Yeah.
26:29I was like, I'd never seen cars two or three.
26:32I was like, okay, what's going on?
26:33Yeah.
26:33They're good.
26:34I feel like they're a little underrated.
26:35Nobody talks about them.
26:37They're interesting.
26:38Uh, cars one.
26:39It is the best one.
26:40Legend.
26:41Legend.
26:41Legendary movie.
26:42I'll get you out of here on this.
26:44Uh, bottle is the song we've been playing on K rock, uh, for quite a bit.
26:49Now, uh, talk a little bit about that song and you know, if anyone's listening to it for
26:52the first time, something to listen for, what it's about the process, whatever you want
26:56to say about a bottle, which is an amazing song that kicks off mud.
27:01Yeah.
27:02I, I wrote bottle.
27:04We wrote that at electric lady.
27:05Um, I think we wrote that the day after we wrote covered in mud actually.
27:09So it was, it was one of our kind of pillar songs, I think for this album, but you know,
27:16it's about kind of my experience with mental health and, and sobriety.
27:21And, um, I've been on a sobriety journey ever since I was 24 and I'm sober now.
27:28So congrats.
27:30That's great.
27:31But, um, yeah, it's kind of about growing up and, and moving forward and taking two steps
27:39back and taking a step forward and then two steps back and how kind of the runaround of
27:45just growing up and, and dealing with all these feelings and dealing with, you know, trying
27:51to just get your life together and, and set your mind, mind straight.
27:56Um, and sonically, uh, we, we coined this term SpongeBob ascension.
28:06Um, and there's this SpongeBob meme.
28:09I don't know if you've seen it where SpongeBob is levitating through a rainbow sky.
28:13Oh, sure.
28:13Headphones kind of hanging down.
28:15Just pure euphoria.
28:17Pure euphoria.
28:17And we, when we wrote Bottle, we were like, this feels like a SpongeBob ascension moment.
28:24And that kind of became another theme for us when we were writing this, this album, we
28:28were like, we want every song to kind of have an element of that SpongeBob ascension and Bottle
28:35really kind of cracked that open.
28:36So hopefully when you're listening to Bottle, you kind of have that, that floating euphoria
28:42feeling, especially during those choruses.
28:43We were kind of really going for that in this song.
28:46So good.
28:47So good.
28:48Well, congrats on the record on Bottle, on Mud.
28:51And thank you for coming to KROQ.
28:53Yeah.
28:53Thanks for having me.
28:54Remy Wolf.
28:55Love the station.