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Speaking at the India Today HealthWealth Summit, Dr Isaac Mathai and Dr Sudhindra Uppoor discussed preventive healthcare, fasting, food habits, sleep and traditional medicine. They also shared their views on Panchakarma and the growing use of GLP-1 weight-loss drugs.
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00:00Let me give a little bit of an introduction before we begin with this conversation.
00:05Dr. Apoor is trained at the SDM College of Ayurveda in Urupi and founded the Ayushree Ayurvedic Clinic.
00:14He has been in practice for about 25 years and his patients range from film stars to corporates to celebrities,
00:24industrialists and also the common man.
00:25So he's got a lot of wisdom. He's treated everything from psoriasis to arthritis and he describes Ayurveda as a
00:35lifestyle and he favors moderation over strict diets as well.
00:39So there are lots of reasons to believe that and believe him already.
00:44When it comes to Dr. Mathai, he is a homeopath. He's trained at the Bengaluru BHMS and also an MD
00:53in homeopathy from London.
00:54He further went on to study acupuncture and Chinese pulse diagnosis.
00:59He talks about the mind and body medicine for which he went to Howard Medical School and he speaks about
01:07therapeutic yoga as well.
01:09Amongst his many patients are King Charles who came all the way down to Bangalore to get treated by him.
01:18He was also one of his personal guests at the 2023 coronation that happened in London and along with treating
01:26very high profile guests,
01:28he also runs a free community clinic around Bengaluru and he has patients that come to him from across 125
01:35countries.
01:37So there is a lot of belief, there's a lot of merit that goes around here.
01:41So let me take the first question to you, Dr. Mathai.
01:45When the King of England drops everything that he has to do to come see you in Bengaluru,
01:52what is it that he understands about alternate medicine that a lot of Indians don't?
02:00No, Indians believe in it.
02:03I would say the Indians believe in eye systems of medicine more than anybody else on the planet Earth.
02:08But the Western world also now recognize the benefits of Ayurveda, naturopathy, homeopathy, therapeutic yoga,
02:15which is widely practiced all over the world.
02:18So my practice in the last 40 years seeing patients in Americans in America to Europeans and Indians,
02:24all over the world there's a search for the proper, authentic, integrative medicine.
02:29I don't want to call it as alternative medicine.
02:32Because today's world, Western medicine and other systems of medicine are working together in America and Europe and other parts.
02:40And India is the motherland of all the systems of medicine.
02:42So we have got an opportunity to combine together and do the best for the patient.
02:49When you look at the patient first, you don't think about the systems of medicine.
02:52I have patients coming from ICU to our hospital.
02:56And I have patients from our hospital moved into the other hospital for investigations or second opinion.
03:03So we had to work together.
03:04That's the future of medicine.
03:06That's the reason that the king also came, and I know him for more than 25 years,
03:12and a personal physician for 15 years.
03:14But they decided to come to Bangalore to my center to stay and publicly do treatment,
03:19which some people think that we are doing some UHA medicine.
03:24But it's not UHA medicine.
03:25It is a genuine, authentic methodology, which scientifically proved also.
03:29So because of the benefit, actually it is recommended by the best of the best Western medical doctors,
03:35recommendationally the king came.
03:37So that will show that how respectful Indian systems of medicines are.
03:42Yes, indeed.
03:44Dr. Apoor, there is a word these days which is more popular than health,
03:49and it's called wellness.
03:51But would you say that Ayurveda was the original wellness,
03:56what was known as Ayurveda then,
03:58the science that did not want to cure but wanted to prevent.
04:05Is that what the true meaning of Ayurveda really is?
04:10Good evening, all of you.
04:12Now, in the next half an hour with Sonal,
04:15let me sail you through so many practical experiences,
04:20which you all can adopt in your day-to-day life.
04:23It should be like so good for you that you go from here with a wealth of knowledge,
04:28which you can adopt in your day-to-day life.
04:30So coming to Sonal's question, there is a quote in Ayurveda,
04:39to prevent disease in the healthy is the primary goal of Ayurveda.
04:44To keep the health in healthy form as you are is the primary goal of Ayurveda.
04:55So please, please, please understand that try your level best to prevent the diseases,
05:01not get there by following a healthy lifestyle.
05:05Once you get there, it's all about medicines, whether it is Ayurveda, allopathy,
05:10popping pills, does not take you anywhere.
05:12So I see a lot of young kids here, preventive, start good lifestyle when you are young,
05:19keep yourself healthy, adopt simple Ayurvedic principles,
05:22you will really, really be away from doctors, not the appellate.
05:28Stay away from doctors, that's what we want to do,
05:30and the best doctors are the ones, they say that I am a good doctor if my patient does not
05:35come to me.
05:36That means I am doing something right, right?
05:38But what is it about Ayurveda, what is it about homeopathy, Dr. Mathai,
05:44that we don't understand truly?
05:48If there is one sort of definition you could bring about.
05:52No, the situation is that the Western medicine is very much a scientifically researched methodology of medicine.
06:03That's great.
06:04And Western medicine has given amazing benefit to the humankind.
06:08But the same way, the traditional systems of medicine cannot be measured in the very same Western medical model,
06:15in a lab test or a test on an animal.
06:18But the Ayurveda or other systems of medicine, omepathy also, is a time-tested methodology.
06:254,000 years of evidence is good enough evidence.
06:30Actually, I am not criticizing, but many of the modern Western medical evidence won't even last for 40 years.
06:36So the Ayurvedic systems of medicines have proved the efficiency of the treatment,
06:41especially in chronic diseases, for thousands of years.
06:43And we are not reinventing, we are providing in the most authentic way.
06:48I know that some of the Western medical doctors could say about the claims of the gurus and Ayurvedic physicians.
06:56I don't suspect for the claims.
06:58I would say the most proper methodology of treatment is the answer.
07:03That answer under the medical care, under the qualified doctors and their methodology,
07:08and provide it in the right, straightforward way, that's what we are doing.
07:12That's attracting patients from all over the world.
07:14But what would you say to some very popular doctors like the liver doc?
07:19He goes online and he says that Ayurveda is a scam, he says homeopathy is a scam,
07:26it's doing more damage than good.
07:28Yes, I know, I know him, but he doesn't know me, so he doesn't see my patients because my patients
07:35won't go to him.
07:37So he sees patients from places where some nonsensical things were done.
07:42You mean to say your patients don't need to see him?
07:45No, I see a better, my patients see better doctors around the world and come to me.
07:49So they don't go to one liver doctor in one part of India.
07:52So it's not personally criticizing the person, but a lot of so-called,
07:55I would say at the same time, the best of the best Western medical doctors in India and abroad
08:00recommend and refer patients.
08:03I don't want to name them, but they are all the world-famous doctors.
08:06So that means there are sensible doctors, they understand the limitation of their systems of medicine,
08:11like I know my limitation.
08:14Same way Western medical doctors also know the limitations, so they refer each other,
08:19and because their aim is the benefit of the patient, not my ego trip,
08:23or just a so-called scientific trip.
08:26Yeah.
08:27Dr. Apto, but tell me this.
08:29Say a person walks up to your clinic, and he says,
08:32you know what, I've come to you, but I'm a non-believer.
08:36What would you tell them?
08:37How would you turn an allopathic believer into an Ayurveda believer?
08:43So the first and foremost thing here is go to an Ayurveda doctor to improve your lifestyle,
08:51not to take a prescribed medicine, prescribed medicines like so many,
08:55kashayams, powders, that, this.
08:58You would also be like, many of you would have gone to Ayurvedic doctors,
09:01you come back from them with lengthy prescriptions, right?
09:05Like, kashayam, churanam, powders, so many things which are non-palatable.
09:10So, first, the audience mindset should change, patient's mindset should change.
09:17Approach an Ayurveda doctor to change your lifestyle,
09:21to improve your lifestyle, to get better,
09:23to follow dhincharya, to follow ruthucharya, seasonal regimen,
09:27and be fit, stay fit, by adopting simple principles,
09:31which cost good for you, can never cost bad for you.
09:35But I have a counter to that.
09:39Both sciences on, say, homeopathy and Ayurveda,
09:43was written back in the day when lifestyle was very different,
09:48where life on earth was very different,
09:50where screen times did not exist,
09:52where all of us did not have this crazy work schedule.
09:55So how do you still apply Ayurveda in a non-complicated way,
10:01in this hustled-up life that we all have?
10:04How does one do that simply?
10:06So to adopt certain simple things which can be game-changing,
10:10as I told you in the beginning of the session,
10:13I will travel you through so many things which you can take away from here.
10:17Like, for example, the moment you wake up in the morning,
10:21you are supposed to have about 400 to 500 ml of room-temperature water.
10:27Do not drink hot water in the morning.
10:29Many of you prefer some kardas and hot liquids, hot water.
10:34No.
10:34Have about 400 ml of room-temperature water first thing in the morning.
10:38Like the book said, six anjelis of room-temperature water.
10:43Anjeli is two fistfuls.
10:44So which roughly in today's time is about 400 ml, 500 ml of room-temperature water.
10:51It doesn't take away your screen time.
10:53It doesn't cause damage to your busy life.
10:55At night, I will tell you another wonderful tip for night.
10:59What the book said, exactly from the book,
11:02take two tea mugs of water,
11:05boil it in such a way that it reduces to one mug,
11:09and a low fire.
11:11Drink this water, hot, hot water at night every day.
11:15You see your digestion.
11:17You will never get into heart attacks,
11:20which usually happen at 3 a.m. in the morning.
11:22You will end up going to a good bowel moment in the morning.
11:26Does it cost you anything?
11:27Just water.
11:28Hot water.
11:29But the book specifically mentioned
11:32two mugs of hot water reduced to one mug.
11:35Not just in a kettle you made the water hot and had.
11:39And like now, oh, where is the research for this?
11:43If you drink hot water at night,
11:45you will definitely not die.
11:46Just drink it.
11:47You will definitely benefit out of it.
11:49So such simple tips can be game-changing.
11:52Dhinacharya is another amazing chapter,
11:54which can be like,
11:55like for example,
11:56the book says you have the heaviest meal for lunch.
12:00Like usually we all have a busy schedule.
12:04We have heavy dinner.
12:05Heavy dinner is one of the reasons
12:07for so many metabolic disorders,
12:10PCODs, heart attacks, cholesterols,
12:12thyroid problems, heavy dinners,
12:15late night awakening.
12:16So you can just,
12:18the book says like have your lunch.
12:21The heaviest meal should be lunch.
12:22The breakfast should be light.
12:24The dinner should be lightest.
12:27Never drink water with your meal.
12:29Like we all,
12:30like I was in US the other day,
12:32not even water,
12:34ice water with the food.
12:36So never drink water with your meal.
12:38Keep a gap of 45 minutes before and after.
12:41Chew your food well.
12:43Sheta padam.
12:43Walk 100 steps after every meal.
12:46This does not disturb any of your day-to-day routine.
12:50Like say you are in office,
12:51you just had your lunch.
12:52Walk 100 steps,
12:53like go there and come back as 100 steps.
12:55Walk that and see the benefits.
12:57You'll never get bloating,
12:58you'll never get acidity
13:00and eat in moderation.
13:02Do not overeat,
13:02eat in moderation.
13:04The simple techniques can be
13:06very, very game-changing.
13:07Dr. Prud,
13:08do you think
13:09Ayurveda would really benefit
13:11from a name change?
13:12Maybe if we called it wellness,
13:13people would understand that better
13:14because everything that you've said
13:16is what wellness experts
13:18speak about on Instagram.
13:19I think that they would have picked up
13:20from these books
13:21or from doctors like me.
13:23Okay.
13:24Probably the second one.
13:25Probably the second one.
13:29Dr. Mathai,
13:30there is so much spoken
13:32on alternate therapy
13:34where there is focus
13:37on something that you also love
13:39which is Panchakarma.
13:41Could you explain that
13:43to our audiences a little,
13:44you know,
13:45easily on what exactly is it
13:48and why it is such a focus?
13:50Focus on?
13:51On Panchakarma.
13:53Yes,
13:54Panchakarma is one of the best
13:55methodology for prevention,
13:58early intervention
13:58and healing.
14:00Many diseases
14:01much before it's developed,
14:02especially the chronic diseases.
14:04My observation
14:04in the last 40 years
14:06of practice
14:06is that 10 years
14:08before you develop
14:09a metabolic disorder
14:10like diabetes
14:11or a neurological disorder,
14:13even a simple balance issue,
14:15it is visible slowly
14:16in the system.
14:17Nothing happened overnight.
14:19All the chronic diseases.
14:21Panchakarma is one of the methodology
14:22in our practice
14:23we use
14:24and I have people
14:25using it
14:25every year
14:26for the last 20 plus years.
14:28it will prevent
14:29and reverse
14:30the aging process.
14:31Somebody especially
14:31above 60.
14:33So it is an amazing methodology
14:35where it rebalances the system
14:37and put the system
14:39into a healthy path.
14:41It's not for nirvana
14:42or some amazing things happening.
14:45It is a proper balancing.
14:47And I do that every year
14:48so I can see the benefit myself
14:51and I have patients
14:52from around the world
14:53coming over,
14:53Indians also,
14:54do every year
14:55in a proper panchakarma.
14:56So I would say
14:57anybody
14:58is interested in health,
15:01aging issue,
15:03longevity,
15:04which is scientifically
15:05we proved also
15:06that it has an impact
15:09on anti-inflammatory markers,
15:11even impact
15:12on the DNA molecules
15:14of the aging process
15:15in your system.
15:16Yeah.
15:17So panchakarma
15:17is an amazing methodology.
15:18Yes,
15:19but it is in India,
15:21it is widely used
15:22to misuse it
15:23more than use it properly.
15:25That's a problem
15:25with Ayurveda.
15:26Yes, yes.
15:27I'm so glad you brought it up
15:28because that was going
15:29to be my next question.
15:30That the biggest issue
15:31I think alternate therapy
15:32faces in India
15:34at least today
15:35is that we do not
15:36find pure products.
15:38There is a long list
15:39of products
15:40that one has to follow
15:41and one does not find
15:42always the right thing.
15:43Do you have a tip
15:45for the audience
15:46on how to test
15:47that what you are being given,
15:48what you are being prescribed
15:49is actually correct or not?
15:50We will start with Dr. Proul.
15:52So if you,
15:54as I said,
15:55if you follow
15:56a proper lifestyle
15:57and follow proper dinacharya,
15:59proper ruthucharya,
16:01and now for example,
16:03it's such an amazing day
16:05we have this meeting here
16:08that we are,
16:10today is October 30th.
16:12From November 1st
16:14to November 15th,
16:15we are in ruthu sandhi.
16:17Ruthu means season,
16:19sandhi means joining,
16:20one season joining.
16:22We are in shardh ruthu now
16:25and we are entering
16:26hemantra ruthu.
16:27This is the time
16:29the next 15 days
16:30doctors will make
16:32a lot of money.
16:33Viral fevers,
16:34dengues,
16:35cold scuffs,
16:36fevers.
16:37So during this ruthu sandhi,
16:39follow a healthy lifestyle.
16:41This is the right time
16:42for like,
16:43you asked Dr. Isaac
16:44about panchikarma.
16:46Like 1st November
16:47to 15th November,
16:48roughly the next 15 days
16:50is the ideal time
16:51to do panchikarma.
16:53Because that one season
16:54is changing,
16:55your pitta,
16:56which is very,
16:57very high
16:57at the moment,
16:59gradually shifts
16:59its focus to vata.
17:01Pitta is the gut.
17:02Pitta is the fire
17:03and water in the body.
17:05The acid quotient
17:05of the body
17:06is very high
17:07during this time.
17:08So you are coming
17:10from that phase
17:10and you are entering
17:11into a phase of vata.
17:13So pitta and vata,
17:15two different phases.
17:16This is the time
17:17when you get sick.
17:18When people get sick,
17:19they get fevers,
17:20they get viral infections.
17:21But Dr. Abdur,
17:22this is also the time
17:22for Diwali.
17:23Diwali.
17:24This is the time
17:24for all the lovely sweets.
17:26Pollution.
17:26This is the time
17:27where you meet people,
17:28you make merry.
17:30Yeah.
17:30And you are asking people
17:31to let go of all of it
17:32and do panchikarma.
17:34No, no, no.
17:34You just got it
17:35a little wrong.
17:37You know,
17:38we just finished Navaratra.
17:40That's the real Ruttasandi.
17:42So the Navaratra fasting,
17:44the nine days of fasting,
17:46which if it is done correctly,
17:48is purely meant
17:49for your health.
17:50Yes.
17:50You keep it in the name
17:51of the goddess,
17:53but it's actually
17:54for your good health.
17:55That is the Ruttasandi.
17:56So you fasted
17:57and your agni has improved now.
17:59And now you are ready
18:00to eat the sweets
18:01for Diwali.
18:02Well, I'm very glad
18:03because I fasted
18:04all nine days
18:05and I'm constantly looking
18:06for an excuse to fast.
18:08But which brings me
18:09to this concept of fasting.
18:10I think alternate medicine
18:12taught us that.
18:13A lot of times
18:14we do not have
18:16perhaps the right data
18:18to back it.
18:18But if you look
18:19at the science
18:20of autophagy
18:21or what science
18:22called autophagy
18:23and what is what we call
18:24fasting in different cultures
18:25and different religions,
18:26it often comes
18:27at a time
18:28when the weather
18:28is shifting.
18:29Exactly.
18:30It often comes,
18:31Navaratras for example,
18:32even Rosa in,
18:33you know,
18:34in Islamic countries,
18:36it's followed
18:36at a time
18:36when the season
18:37is changing.
18:38So there was
18:38some science
18:39behind how
18:41these pasts
18:42were also kept.
18:43Why is fasting
18:44so important?
18:45If I can start with you.
18:45Especially today's world
18:48with the junk food
18:49and everything,
18:49fasting is more important
18:50than the olden time.
18:52So fasting
18:53in a regulated way
18:54helps your intestine
18:56and your liver
18:57and your entire system
18:58to get a restful time.
19:00But fasting
19:00also cannot be done
19:01just like that.
19:02Go and start a fasting
19:03like overnight
19:04and do it.
19:05That can have
19:06its own negative effect
19:06on your health.
19:07So you have to have
19:08a balanced
19:09as well as
19:10a regulated fasting,
19:11either religious,
19:13properly,
19:13which was done
19:13for thousands of years
19:14or a medical
19:15based on a doctor's advice.
19:17If you do properly
19:18and you cannot
19:20jump into fasting
19:21and get out of fasting.
19:22So you have to do it
19:23in a regulated way
19:24and if you do
19:25that on a regular basis
19:26on a yearly basis
19:27or twice a year
19:28in a short or long,
19:29it has huge impact.
19:31It will take away
19:32a lot of your
19:34billing in the hospital.
19:36Dr. Apoor.
19:37So there is another quote,
19:40another amazing quote
19:41from Sanskrit Ayurveda.
19:43Langanam Paramaushadham.
19:45Langanam means fasting.
19:46Param means best.
19:47Aushadham means medicine.
19:48Fasting is the best medicine.
19:50But when, where,
19:52whom, how, why.
19:53This is so important.
19:56If I want to keep it
19:57simple for the audience,
20:00do you like say,
20:01you all know what is
20:02Eka Dashi in Hindu calendar?
20:04Yes.
20:04So just fast on a day
20:06of Eka Dashi
20:06and see your health.
20:07How better you will be.
20:09Like all the rubbish
20:10you have eaten
20:10in the last 15 days,
20:12it just washes it out.
20:13It's basically fasting
20:14every 15 days,
20:16giving your body a break.
20:17It comes twice a month.
20:18Month.
20:19It comes on the 11th day
20:20of raising and setting moon.
20:22Yes.
20:22Eka Dashi.
20:22Dashi means 10.
20:24Eka plus 1, 11.
20:25So 11th day of raising moon
20:26and the 11th day
20:28of setting moon,
20:29if you just fast.
20:30You can just search
20:31what are the Eka Dashi
20:32dates for the next month.
20:33Google will tell you.
20:35Just fast on those
20:36Eka Dashi days.
20:37You can fast like say
20:40begin with 24 hours.
20:41People do 36 hours.
20:43People do sajal fasting.
20:45They drink water and fast.
20:46People do nirjal fasting.
20:48They don't even drink water.
20:50This fasting,
20:52like say,
20:52all the bad things
20:54you have done.
20:55You have eaten bad foods.
20:56You have eaten sweets.
20:57You have eaten maida.
20:58This will just wash away
20:59from your system.
21:00And why?
21:01Why is it the 11th day
21:03of the moon?
21:03Can anybody in the audience
21:05guess why the scholars,
21:07why Ayurveda scholars,
21:08how our ancient scholars,
21:10our ancestors,
21:12have put it for the Eka Dashi,
21:1411th day of the moon?
21:22It's the mind and the gut.
21:25So 11th day of the moon,
21:27of the rising moon,
21:29if you fast,
21:30not only your gut is cleansed,
21:32your mind is cleansed.
21:33The mind is your first brain
21:36and your gut is your second brain.
21:38So that's the reason
21:39why it's the 11th day.
21:41And then came
21:42the intermittent fasting,
21:44then came autophagy
21:45and so many stuff.
21:46But just in your busy lives,
21:48don't need not go
21:49for intermittent fasting.
21:50It's tough.
21:51You're starving.
21:52You have work.
21:53You need your coffee.
21:55But do this on Eka Dashi
21:57twice a month
21:58and see amazing health benefits.
22:00That's a good prescription.
22:01Twice a month is not bad.
22:03But when you say fast,
22:04what do you mean by that?
22:05Because some people
22:06fast only with fruits.
22:08Some people fast
22:09by having only liquids.
22:11Some allow themselves
22:13some tea, coffee indulgence.
22:14What is the true meaning
22:17of fast?
22:17My grandmother used to call
22:20all different types of fasting
22:22as monkeys fast.
22:25So it's like you fast,
22:27you fast.
22:28Otherwise, please don't.
22:29And I've seen some of my relatives,
22:32they eat much more carbs,
22:34much more sugar.
22:35They feast.
22:36The feast on the day of fasting,
22:38that can only do harm.
22:40Their sugar levels increase
22:41during the day of fast
22:42and that only spoils their health.
22:45It can be so damaging
22:47for your livers,
22:48for your kidneys.
22:49It can increase proteinuria.
22:51Very, very bad.
22:52If you fast,
22:53just fast.
22:53Have lukewarm water.
22:55Fast.
22:55You can target like,
22:57okay,
22:57on the day of Eka Dashi,
22:58I'll do 12 hours.
23:00I'll do 24 hours.
23:02Oh,
23:02there is like,
23:03oh,
23:04Vishnu ke naam se Eka Dashi.
23:05It's not Vishnu,
23:06it's your health.
23:07Who is Vishnu?
23:08Vishnu is your health.
23:09Within you.
23:10The Vishnu is inside you.
23:12So you start with,
23:13say,
23:13an elderly person,
23:14okay,
23:15let me do intermittent fasting
23:16on the day of Eka Dashi.
23:18Or let me do 12 hours.
23:19Let me do 24,
23:2036.
23:21You're a young girl like you
23:22should do 36 hours of fast
23:24on Eka Dashi.
23:24Very happy to do it.
23:25We'll take you up
23:26on that challenge.
23:27But I just want to take a moment
23:28to reflect on
23:29what has just been said
23:30on stage here.
23:31And yes,
23:31you're hearing it
23:32from a homeopath
23:33and yes,
23:33you're hearing it
23:34from an Ayurveda expert.
23:35But just a couple of hours ago,
23:37we heard a gut doctor
23:39speak about it.
23:40We had an entire session
23:41on gut and brain access
23:43and he said exactly this,
23:45that how your gut
23:45and brain is connected
23:46is very intertwined
23:47and one impacts the other.
23:49So you see
23:49the common thread there.
23:51The science with facts
23:52or without does exist,
23:54which is really interesting.
23:55We are towards
23:55the last few minutes
23:56of this conversation
23:58in which I want
23:59to bring in
24:00a quick one.
24:01We are in the era
24:02of supplements.
24:03Everybody loves them
24:04or even if they don't,
24:06they like popping it.
24:07We as Indians love
24:08if we give them
24:09a pill for something.
24:10One for sleep,
24:11one for good energy,
24:13one to ensure
24:14that your mind
24:15is not overactive.
24:16But in alternate medicine,
24:19there are so many
24:20beautiful remedies
24:21that are available
24:22in your kitchen as well.
24:24We spoke about it
24:24a little while ago.
24:25So if I could throw in
24:27a couple of diseases
24:30at you
24:30which are very common
24:31and if you could give me
24:32some natural ways
24:34of sort of
24:35helping with it.
24:37Again,
24:37I just want to give
24:38our audiences
24:38a cavity over here.
24:39This does not mean
24:40that you stop
24:41having your medication.
24:42This means
24:43that you're helping
24:44your body to recover.
24:45So we'll start
24:46with Dr. Aprood
24:46and I'll come to
24:47Dr. Mathai as well.
24:48Right?
24:49Dr. Aprood,
24:50for diabetes,
24:51what is the one
24:52kitchen spice
24:53that you think
24:54could help?
24:55Methi dana,
24:56fenugreek seeds.
24:57And before further talking,
24:58let me tell you,
24:59you start your
25:00methi seeds
25:01every morning
25:02doesn't mean
25:03you stop
25:04your allopathy medicines.
25:06You do the methi seeds,
25:08you improve your lifestyle,
25:09you reduce
25:10your carbohydrates,
25:11you maintain
25:12your protein quotient
25:13in the body,
25:13exercise regularly
25:14and request
25:15the allopathy doctor
25:16showing him
25:17your results
25:18to reduce
25:18the allopathy medicine
25:19gradually.
25:20Please, please,
25:20please do not
25:21stop anything overnight.
25:22That's one of the
25:23worst things
25:24patients can do
25:26and some of the
25:27doctors claim
25:28they can cure
25:29diabetes overnight,
25:30they can cure
25:31cancers overnight.
25:32Please, please,
25:33don't fall prey
25:34to any of those.
25:35Over a period of time,
25:37it's like,
25:37you take it
25:38as a challenge
25:39and prove to the doctor,
25:40your allopathy doctor,
25:42that yeah,
25:42now it's time,
25:43doc,
25:43you need to reduce
25:44my medicine.
25:44My numbers are much better.
25:46Yeah, well,
25:47that's the right,
25:48that's an absolutely
25:48brilliant approach.
25:49Dr. Mathai,
25:50what about
25:51the fenugreek,
25:52let me give them
25:53the right advice
25:54of the area.
25:55Fenugreek seeds
25:55must be taken
25:57as per your age.
25:58Okay.
25:59Like, say,
25:59a 70-year-old man
26:01counts 70 fenugreek seeds,
26:03methi seeds,
26:03methi dana,
26:04soak them overnight
26:05in a cup of hot water
26:07and in the morning
26:08drink the water,
26:09chew and eat the seeds
26:10as well.
26:11Oh,
26:12chew and eat the seeds
26:13as well.
26:14Get it right,
26:15otherwise it can
26:16backfire.
26:17Okay.
26:17And as per the age.
26:20Yeah.
26:21So, if I'm 30,
26:22I got to have 30.
26:2330?
26:23No, not more.
26:24It'll cost too much
26:25pitta in the body,
26:25otherwise.
26:26Ah, that's interesting.
26:28What about cholesterol?
26:29Me?
26:30Yeah.
26:31Kashmiri single garlic buds.
26:33Kashmiri garlic,
26:34not the normal garlic.
26:35Every morning,
26:36you can consume
26:37four or five
26:39Kashmiri garlics,
26:40preferably with
26:41small b honey.
26:43Like,
26:44honey,
26:44there is
26:45one normal honey
26:46and one small bee honey.
26:48Now, again,
26:48to the audience,
26:49why small bee honey?
26:50Why not the normal honey?
26:52What's the difference?
26:53Research.
26:54Okay.
26:54Small bees can penetrate
26:56deeper into the flowers
26:57and can get the best
26:59out of the honey.
27:00Because they're so tiny.
27:01They can go deep.
27:02So,
27:03this small bee honey,
27:04a spoon,
27:05put five Kashmiri
27:06single garlic buds
27:07into them,
27:08chew this empty stomach
27:09every morning.
27:11This can manage
27:12your cholesterol
27:12very well.
27:13And slowly,
27:14slowly,
27:15slowly,
27:15if you're on a
27:1620 mg statin,
27:1740 mg statin,
27:18with the advice
27:19of allopathy doctor,
27:20you can cut it down
27:21by having good results.
27:22Okay.
27:23What about high blood pressure?
27:25I'll give you
27:26a fantastic trip.
27:27Especially,
27:27nowadays,
27:28even young children,
27:30130s,
27:30140s,
27:31where you don't need
27:32that medicine,
27:32but you can still
27:33control it yourself.
27:35Like,
27:35a cup of hot water,
27:38ajwain,
27:39like,
27:39half a teaspoon of ajwain,
27:41boiled in hot water,
27:41like a green tea,
27:42and add five to six
27:44saffron into it.
27:45Okay.
27:46Your good quality
27:47organic saffron
27:48and sip it
27:49so aromatic,
27:50so nice tea
27:50at bedtime.
27:52You can do that
27:52two times water,
27:54reduce it to one time,
27:55by adding this stuff,
27:57drink it,
27:59it's one of the best
28:00blood thinner
28:01and controls
28:02your blood pressure
28:03so effectively.
28:04Dr. Mathai,
28:05for sleep.
28:07That's a million dollar
28:08question.
28:09Yes, yes.
28:10There are several
28:11herbal extracts
28:12which is very good
28:13to calm your mind.
28:14There's no sleeping
28:15medicine as such.
28:17These days,
28:18Kareena Kapoor Khan
28:19has made it very famous
28:20to rub ghee
28:21on your foot
28:22before you go to sleep.
28:23Does that work?
28:25It works.
28:26Not necessarily ghee.
28:27Your loving person
28:30gives you a foot massage
28:31and makes you
28:31put you to sleep.
28:32I give that prescription
28:33to people also.
28:34But there are
28:35some herbal extracts
28:36like passiflora
28:37and things like that.
28:38They will help.
28:38So when people
28:39ask for a medicine,
28:40they say there's
28:41no medicine to sleep.
28:42You have to do
28:43the right thing,
28:44keep the mobile phone away
28:45and then don't watch
28:46your television
28:46and maybe put your
28:47foot in your cold water.
28:49There are so many
28:50lifestyle modifications
28:51and lifestyle management
28:52will give your best sleep.
28:54So it's possible
28:55and we do that
28:56but we won't do
28:56any prescription for sleep.
28:58Right.
28:58What about hormone imbalance?
29:00Women specifically.
29:02Yeah, hormone imbalance
29:04is a lot of herbal
29:05extracts are very,
29:06very efficient
29:07and homeopathic medicines
29:08are there
29:08and Ayurvedic medicines
29:10are there.
29:11Again, it's not about
29:12one hormone.
29:13It's about that person's
29:14constitution.
29:15That's the difference
29:16between the Western medicine
29:17and the AIU systems
29:19of medicine.
29:19We have to look at
29:20each person's constitution.
29:21Based on that,
29:22we have to provide
29:22certain herbs
29:23or certain so-called
29:25medicines to balance
29:26the hormonal system
29:27and menopausal woman
29:28and everybody
29:29we treat very well
29:30without any HRT
29:32and things like that
29:32or those who are in HRT
29:34we reduce it
29:35over a period of time
29:36because hormonal changes
29:38or menopause
29:38is a normal human nature.
29:40It's not a disease.
29:42So don't treat it
29:42like a disease.
29:43Treat it to balance
29:44the situation.
29:46Again, lifestyle is important.
29:48Eating habits are important.
29:49All the aspects are important.
29:50So it's,
29:51by the end of the day,
29:52there's no one solution
29:53for any disease
29:54or one solution
29:55for anything.
29:56It's all goes
29:57with a lifestyle modification,
30:00eating habits
30:01in today's world
30:01and stressful
30:02reduction of stress
30:04and good sleep.
30:05That will give the answer.
30:07Dr. Apoor,
30:07you want to take up
30:08on hormonal imbalance?
30:10A couple of things, yeah.
30:11So one is the
30:13rubbing ghee on the feet.
30:15Maybe probably
30:15she can afford that.
30:16But the thing is
30:18in Ayurvedic books,
30:20when we speak on the stage,
30:22we need to speak
30:22with reference
30:23from the book, yeah?
30:24Yeah.
30:24So we trust the book.
30:25We go by the book.
30:26So the book says
30:27the best thing
30:28one can do
30:29every night
30:30is Pada Abhyangam.
30:31Pada means feet,
30:33Abhyangam means massage.
30:35Okay.
30:35Have a foot massage
30:36like your maid,
30:37yourself,
30:38rub oil on your feet
30:40every night
30:41and before going to sleep.
30:44It says,
30:44it can,
30:45you will not get
30:46any disease.
30:47So Pada Abhyangam
30:48is what mentioned.
30:49Ghee is fancy
30:50because probably
30:51she could have heard that.
30:52And again,
30:54as Dr. Isaac told,
30:56Vata people
30:56must use sesame oil,
30:58Pitta people
30:59which is must use ghee
31:00and Kaffa people
31:02must use mustard oil.
31:04How you know that,
31:04I will not ask you
31:05that question.
31:06But last one
31:06for heart health.
31:08Heart health.
31:09So again,
31:10I think
31:11when we talked
31:12about heart,
31:15the best way
31:15is again
31:16Kashmiri single garlic
31:17but methi seeds
31:18in the morning
31:19and a combination
31:20of achvain
31:22and saffron water
31:24at night.
31:25This is amazing.
31:26If you follow
31:26these three,
31:28usually you will
31:29never get into
31:30cholesterol,
31:30heart diseases
31:31and any such
31:32disorder
31:33and obesity as well.
31:34Right.
31:35And your hormones,
31:37the question with hormones.
31:38So there are two
31:39different hormonal variations.
31:42One is younger girls
31:43go for Tulsi,
31:45like have a Tulsi tea,
31:47very tasty,
31:48very aromatic
31:48and elderly,
31:50like menopausal women
31:51eat a pomegranate
31:52every day.
31:53Amazing.
31:54Just amazing.
31:55All right.
31:56Tell me a little bit
31:57about tackling obesity.
32:01We live in the times
32:02of GLP-1 drugs
32:03and weight loss drugs,
32:04right?
32:05Everybody now
32:06has an injection
32:07to put it in.
32:09No food noise.
32:10You don't get the cravings.
32:12You don't even feel
32:13like craving
32:13for all the stuff
32:15you used to like.
32:17No alcohol.
32:18All of that is quiet
32:19and people are losing
32:20tons of weight.
32:22What are your thoughts
32:23on that firstly?
32:24So as Dr. Isaac
32:26was saying,
32:27allopathy,
32:28the research
32:29that is so good,
32:30it's a fantastic science.
32:31But suddenly after
32:32maybe 20 years,
32:34the same researchers
32:36say,
32:37oh, no, no,
32:37we didn't know this.
32:39So these GLP drugs
32:40can cause cancer.
32:42They can cause
32:44Alzheimer's.
32:45They can cause
32:45memory loss.
32:46which can come up
32:47later.
32:48So my suggestion
32:49being an Ayurveda
32:50doctor to all of you
32:51is maintain a healthy
32:53lifestyle.
32:53Don't go there.
32:55Don't try to reach.
32:56They are amazing.
32:57Like say,
32:58an amazing actor
32:59wants to lose weight,
33:00GLP drugs,
33:01Ayurveda can't do
33:01anything for him.
33:02But you,
33:04like you and me,
33:05should not go there
33:06as much as possible.
33:07Have a good lifestyle.
33:09Be healthy.
33:10prevention is always
33:11better than cure.
33:12Yeah.
33:13Dr. Mathai?
33:14It is essential
33:15for a certain
33:16number of people.
33:18Yes.
33:18Especially start
33:19with diabetes.
33:20Yes.
33:20And interestingly,
33:21the Western doctors
33:22in Western countries,
33:24which a lot of the
33:25might treat that
33:25patients,
33:26they prescribe it
33:27only for
33:28really necessary
33:30patients with diabetes
33:31or that kind of
33:33a weight issue
33:34which is damaging
33:35to their other organs
33:36and all that.
33:38Unfortunately,
33:38in India,
33:39in Bangalore,
33:40not only the specialist
33:41is prescribing,
33:42that is official,
33:44even the corner shop
33:45is selling,
33:46calling somebody
33:47and saying,
33:47no, no,
33:47there's a new medicine
33:48in town,
33:49why don't you take it?
33:49It will make you
33:50shape you up.
33:51And it's like
33:53paracetamol is going on.
33:54That is dangerous.
33:55So even the Western
33:56medical approach
33:57of properly doing
33:58for the selected
33:59number of patients
34:00in a proper way
34:01is appropriate.
34:02Side effects
34:02maybe may not be
34:04in the future.
34:05That's okay.
34:06but this vast use
34:09of this especially
34:09country like India
34:10is very dangerous.
34:12Dr. Apoor,
34:13can I ask you this?
34:15There is so much
34:17knowledge that you have
34:18on what to eat,
34:19when to eat,
34:20how to do things.
34:21What does your routine
34:23look like?
34:23What are you having
34:25in the morning?
34:26What kalha is being made
34:28with some bees
34:30and some garlic there?
34:32What is your routine?
34:34I'll tell you
34:34a simple routine.
34:36to be free
34:38from diseases
34:39and I'm 50 now.
34:42So to not get
34:44God's grace,
34:45no diabetes,
34:46no cholesterol,
34:46I'm not on any
34:47medication,
34:48even Ayurveda.
34:49So I think
34:51a simple thing,
34:52wake up early
34:53in the morning.
34:54So early in the morning
34:55doesn't mean 4 a.m.
34:56in the morning.
34:576,
34:58just wake up
34:59with the sun,
35:00have your
35:01methi water,
35:02have your
35:03fenugreek seeds,
35:05have your
35:05room temperature
35:06water
35:07and the first
35:08four hours
35:09of the day,
35:10say up to
35:1110 o'clock,
35:12it's the kapha time.
35:13kapha is earth
35:14and water
35:15in the body.
35:15You're supposed
35:16to exercise
35:17during this time,
35:18you're supposed
35:19to be physically
35:19active during this time,
35:21you're supposed
35:21to eat very less
35:22food during this time,
35:24where we are
35:24usually advocated
35:25to have a heavy
35:26breakfast.
35:27Heavy breakfast,
35:28Ayurveda says no,
35:29a light breakfast
35:30and then get
35:31into your day.
35:33So 10 to 2
35:34is the time
35:34of pitta,
35:35that's a fantastic
35:36time for decision
35:37making.
35:39What should I do?
35:40How should I do?
35:41That's the time,
35:42that's office time,
35:43decision making time
35:44and your heaviest
35:45meal has to be
35:46in the pitta time.
35:47Between 10 to 2
35:48has to be
35:49your heaviest meal.
35:512 to the next
35:52four hours
35:52up till 6 o'clock
35:53is the execution
35:54time because
35:55it is the
35:56vata time.
35:57Whatever your
35:57mind thought,
35:59that's the time
36:00to execute it.
36:01And again
36:02comes the kapha
36:03next four hours,
36:04unwind,
36:05slow,
36:05relax.
36:06And by 10 p.m.,
36:08this is very
36:08interesting,
36:09young people here,
36:1110 to 2 a.m.,
36:1210 p.m. in the
36:13night to 2 a.m.
36:15in the morning
36:15is the pitta time.
36:17You're supposed
36:18to be fast asleep
36:19during this time,
36:20fast asleep.
36:21And this is where
36:22I think hormone
36:23imbalances for girls,
36:25they're scrolling
36:25their internets,
36:26they're seeing
36:27their Instagrams.
36:28So this is the time
36:29you're supposed
36:29to be fast asleep,
36:31this is the pitta
36:32period.
36:34And another
36:35very interesting
36:35thing here,
36:36during this time
36:37your liver
36:38repairs.
36:39If your mind
36:40is active,
36:41where is the
36:41blood rushing
36:42to?
36:42Your mind.
36:44So if you're
36:44asleep,
36:45the blood rushes
36:46to your liver
36:46and repairs
36:47your liver.
36:48That's the
36:48reason why
36:49you're seeing
36:49so many liver
36:50diseases these
36:51days,
36:51even on the
36:52way I saw
36:53liver
36:55biliary clinic
36:56something.
36:56So that's
36:58even with
36:59non-alcoholic
37:00liver disease
37:00that are
37:01non-alcoholic
37:01fatty livers.
37:03So big,
37:03so big.
37:04So please
37:05sleep by
37:0610 o'clock,
37:0710 to 2
37:07should be
37:08your deep
37:08sleep,
37:092 onwards,
37:10the lightest
37:10sleep automatically
37:11comes in,
37:13wake up by
37:136 o'clock,
37:14follow basic
37:15rituals,
37:15eat in
37:16moderation,
37:17control your
37:18carbohydrates
37:18and the
37:19biggest killer,
37:20the biggest
37:21killer,
37:21take it away
37:22from here,
37:23if you can
37:23change one
37:24thing tonight,
37:25stop having
37:26sugar.
37:28Just stop
37:29having sugar,
37:30you will
37:31automatically
37:31get better.
37:33Your health
37:34will automatically
37:34get better.
37:35The sweets,
37:36the sugars,
37:37and I also
37:38advocate,
37:39like say first
37:40stop white
37:41sugar,
37:41then totally
37:42get rid of
37:43jaggery,
37:43next thing
37:44get rid of
37:44fruits as
37:45well.
37:47What?
37:48Did you
37:49just say
37:49get rid of
37:50fruits?
37:51Yes,
37:51I'll tell
37:52you why.
37:53So,
37:53there are
37:54fruits and
37:54there are
37:55vegetables,
37:56but when I
37:56said get
37:57rid of the
37:57fruits,
37:58increase your
37:59vegetables and
38:00eat them
38:01like a
38:01cow,
38:02because both
38:03fruits and
38:03vegetables are
38:04high on
38:04antioxidants,
38:05they are
38:05high on
38:06minerals,
38:07they are
38:07amazing in
38:08fiber,
38:09but why
38:10is the
38:10vegetable
38:11superior?
38:12Because it
38:13doesn't have
38:13sugar.
38:14So,
38:15prefer having
38:16plenty of
38:16vegetables,
38:17plenty means
38:18plenty of
38:19vegetables to
38:19compensate
38:20your fruit
38:21loss,
38:22then target
38:24a time,
38:25like say,
38:25especially in
38:26your 40s,
38:2750s,
38:28that's when
38:28the mid-age
38:29crisis comes
38:30in.
38:31Mid-age crisis
38:32is, oh,
38:32I've gotten
38:33diabetes,
38:33oh, my
38:34blood pressure
38:34is going
38:35high.
38:35That's the
38:36time you
38:36just stop
38:37having sugar,
38:38including
38:38fruit sugar,
38:39exercise
38:40regularly,
38:40cut down
38:41on your
38:41carbohydrates,
38:42you don't
38:42need any
38:43doctor,
38:43including me.
38:44I have
38:44a follow-up
38:45on sugar.
38:45What about
38:46sugar alternatives
38:47like allulose,
38:49like monk
38:49fruit, which
38:50are very
38:50popular these
38:51days?
38:51Instead,
38:52please have
38:52sugar.
38:56All right.
38:57Dr.
38:58Mathai,
38:58as we come
38:59towards the
39:00end, talk
39:00to me a
39:01little bit
39:01about, you
39:03know, we
39:03spoke about
39:04weight loss.
39:05There are two
39:06things that
39:06really impact
39:07every Indian
39:07apart from
39:08clinical issues.
39:09It is, you
39:10know, having
39:11excess fat in
39:12your body and
39:12having very
39:13little hair on
39:14your head.
39:14Is there a
39:15remedy that
39:16you can speak
39:16to us about
39:17for hair loss?
39:18Yes.
39:19If it is an
39:20abnormal hair
39:20loss in early
39:21stages, in
39:22the teenage or
39:23in the middle
39:23age or after
39:24delivery or
39:25anything like
39:25that, there
39:26are proper
39:27medication and
39:28treatments for
39:29that.
39:29And there
39:30are high
39:30oils that are
39:31very efficient
39:32for that.
39:32But again,
39:33hair loss is
39:34not always an
39:35issue with the
39:35hair.
39:36It will be
39:36most of the
39:37time an issue
39:37with the
39:38metabolism.
39:39A lot of
39:39cases, they
39:39will have
39:40some issues
39:40with the
39:41liver.
39:41Not necessarily
39:42disease of
39:42the liver, but
39:43metabolic
39:45imbalances.
39:45So we
39:46have to
39:46correct the
39:46gut and
39:47the intestine
39:48and the
39:48eating habits
39:49and sometimes
39:49at delivery
39:50and such
39:51situation, it
39:52can be
39:52changed.
39:53So we
39:53have to
39:53look at the
39:54root cause
39:54of it and
39:56treat that.
39:57And that
39:58can be changed
39:58both with
39:59Ayurveda and
40:00homeopiric
40:00medicines.
40:02Dr. Prud,
40:02what's your
40:03take on
40:03coffee?
40:05It's so
40:05good.
40:06Yeah?
40:07Like, what's
40:09coffee is a
40:10herb, right?
40:11Tea is a
40:12herb.
40:12No herb can
40:13be harmful
40:13to you.
40:14But what
40:15makes coffee
40:16or a tea
40:16harmful is
40:17the milk and
40:18the sugar in
40:18that.
40:19so if you
40:20adopt a nice
40:21black tea or
40:22maybe a black
40:23coffee, it's
40:24just amazing.
40:25Black coffee
40:25can be a
40:26medicine in
40:27fatty liver if
40:28you have it in
40:29moderation.
40:30Of course, don't
40:31cross two cups a
40:32day, but have
40:33two cups of
40:33black coffee a
40:34day, it'll
40:35help in weight
40:36loss.
40:36It'll help in
40:37fatty liver.
40:38So these are
40:39also herbs.
40:40They're not bad.
40:41But one small
40:43point here,
40:44compatibility and
40:45non-compatibility
40:46is the biggest
40:48issue.
40:48What do you
40:49mean by that?
40:49So compatibility
40:50is a simple
40:51herb by mixing
40:53with other herb
40:54becomes the
40:54greatest of
40:55medicine.
40:56And a simple
40:58herb by mixing
40:59with a non-compatible
41:00thing can become
41:01the biggest
41:02poison.
41:02So what is the
41:03biggest non-compatible
41:05virudh ahar is
41:06the Ayurvedic word
41:07for that.
41:08What is the
41:08biggest virudh ahar
41:10we all generally
41:11eat, especially
41:11delhiites?
41:13Any guess?
41:14Virudh ahar,
41:15non-compatible food?
41:18Palak paneer.
41:20Never mix
41:20palak and paneer
41:21together.
41:22Another, one of
41:23your favorites is
41:24dahi vada.
41:26And what's
41:27another name for
41:28dahi vada?
41:28Dahi bhala.
41:29Dahi bhala.
41:30So never have
41:32udad dal,
41:32urad dal and
41:33dahi, curd
41:35together.
41:36Never have
41:36palak and paneer
41:37together.
41:38It interferes in
41:39the absorption of
41:39the protein and
41:40also of the iron.
41:41It doesn't work
41:42as a pairing.
41:43It doesn't work
41:44after pairing.
41:45Same like coffee
41:46with milk and
41:47sugar, poison.
41:48Tea, milk and
41:49sugar, poison.
41:50Kadak chai, very
41:51dangerous.
41:53All right, on
41:54that note, thank
41:55you so much, Dr.
41:56Aprood and Dr.
41:57Mathai for being
41:57here.
41:58It's been an
41:58eye-opening session
41:59and I love that
42:00you've shared so
42:01many tips with us
42:02that people can
42:02take back home and
42:04actually practice.
42:04Before I let you
42:05go, would you
42:06please be kind
42:07enough to write
42:07what we are doing
42:09here at the
42:09Healthwell Summit as
42:10a health prescription
42:11for India?
42:12If you had to
42:13give one health
42:14prescription for
42:15the country, what
42:16would that be?
42:16Please join me
42:17there.
42:57I might need a little bit of a translation on that one.
43:00Way of life.
43:01Way of life.
43:03Okay.
43:03All right.
43:04Thank you so much.
43:04Ladies and gentlemen, please put your hands together for Dr. Mathai and Dr. Uprood.
43:08Please.
43:09Please.