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Actor Suniel Shetty, wellness entrepreneur Mira Kapoor and pathologist Dr Navin Dang discussed India’s growing wellness culture at the India Today Conclave. From Ayurveda and biohacking to discipline and preventive diagnostics, the panel explored how people can live longer and healthier lives.
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00:00Okay then, so what is this panel all about? A hero, an action hero, refuses to age, a health and
00:11wellness entrepreneur now who's starting ventures, and a doctor who reads sort of biomarkers for a living.
00:19What are all three people doing on stage together? Well, that's because we are in the middle of a health
00:25and wellness paradox in the country. On one hand, we have never checked ourselves so much, and on the other,
00:33we've also never been this unwell.
00:35Gym subscriptions are up, supplements are flooding the market, there are retreats to provide you inner peace, and yet, here
00:45we are, the diabetes capital, young people getting heart attacks, and stress, well, that's just like a national condition, if
00:54I can say.
00:56So who do we trust in times like these? With health and wellness, where do we go? Are doctors going
01:03to be the shining light? What about the trust deficit that they only come to you once the disease has
01:09hit you?
01:10What about wellness influencers? What about those who are biohacking life and how?
01:16So, in this session, we are going to try and understand all three aspects, to try and, you know, stitch
01:23it together and see where does the truth really lie.
01:26Also, you'll notice all of you sitting here in the audience, all of you have cards in front of you,
01:31they are red on one side, green on the other.
01:34Please feel free to raise every time you feel something is right or wrong, and we've got a fun game
01:39for you that comes up in the end as well.
01:41But first up, to the man who's aging like one fine wine, Mr. Shetty, let me take you down memory
01:54lane a little bit, and I've got some pictures that will be thrown up.
01:58When we think of you back in the 90s, that one, when we look at you back in the 90s,
02:09you were this Arnold fan, right?
02:11It was all about pumping and bulking, it was about, you know, no pain, no gain.
02:17And look at you now, you're talking about breath work, you're talking about balance, you're talking about biohacking.
02:23What is the one thing that Sunil Shetty of 90s would probably laugh about, the thing that you do today?
02:32I guess Sunil Shetty of the 90s didn't have that kind of knowledge about health that Sunil Shetty of 2026
02:39has.
02:40There's so much that you're reading, learning, trying, failing and reworking on.
02:47In the 90s, it was about size, it was about being strong, but for me, it was always about being
02:55disciplined and strong.
02:56I mean, even then, if you saw those muscles, it had nothing to do with any kind of supplement that
03:03I took.
03:03Even to this date, even protein is 99% a no-no for me because it doesn't suit me.
03:10So then it was about eating right, it was eating home food, mom's cooking, South Indian boy, so a lot
03:18of rice and size.
03:20So then it was about being super fit for the movies, now it's about being super healthy and fit for
03:29my granddaughter.
03:30So that's the difference that exists.
03:34So how does that super healthy come now? What is the one thing that you're doing?
03:39The one thing that I always did was I was always boringly consistent.
03:43You know, for me, it started with martial arts.
03:46Martial arts gave me that edge over the others because, you know, I was a 14-year-old, 15-year
03:51-old boy training the Indo-Tibetan border police,
03:54training the Maharashtra State Police.
03:55And you always got this feeling, you know, when they called you sensei, they respected you.
04:01That stuck on to me and I realized that there is no better way to make sure that I command
04:09respect.
04:10The only way I can command respect is by staying healthy and fit.
04:13I used to also play a lot of cricket and, you know, so that stayed with me.
04:19Then on, I always trained right, I always ate right.
04:23And, you know, our biomarkers, Doc, earlier, we couldn't, probably didn't have a measure tape also to tape your measure
04:31yourself and what you did.
04:33So when I was 17 and 18, I had this pair of denims that my aunt got for me from
04:39America.
04:39There was a brand called Britannia.
04:41And I used to love it and I used to wear that.
04:43Now to wear that consistently over a period of time, probably years together,
04:48I made sure that my waist stayed the same.
04:50And to this date, that is the technique that I use.
04:55I, yes, I move, slip in and out of, you know, gym clothes and stuff like that.
05:01But I need a trouser, a pair of denims with that button out there that should fit me through.
05:09And that's how I measure whether those inches have gone wrong.
05:12And I'm not kidding.
05:13It was old school.
05:14We didn't have too much.
05:15But that's how we did it.
05:17Not bad.
05:18Jeans, that goes back what, 30 years now?
05:2030 years, 35 years probably.
05:22Yeah.
05:22Yeah.
05:23All right, Meera, let me come to you.
05:24You actively talk about Ayurveda.
05:27You talk about gut health.
05:29You talk about understanding your body well.
05:31You have Dr. Dang sitting right next to you, to people who say that there are no measurable markers
05:39or medical way of proving that any of this works.
05:43What do you tell them?
05:45Firstly, Sonal, I would just like to say that this is such a surreal moment for me to be here.
05:52Because I have grown up watching the India Today conclave.
05:55And there are so many people in this room who have directly or indirectly shaped who I am.
06:03Because as a kid from Vasanth Valley, you know, I've seen Mr. and Mrs. Puri every year.
06:09But I told my daughter today, I said, do you know how much this means to me to be here?
06:16So I'm very grateful for being here and to all of you for listening.
06:24I hear what you're saying, Sonal.
06:28Ayurveda is a traditional form of medicine.
06:32And I think in the age that we're in today, we want a measurable marker of everything that we do.
06:38Are we getting better? Are we slowing down?
06:41Have I put on the right kind of size with the right kind of percentage and body markers, analysis, etc.,
06:48etc.?
06:48I think what we forget is to actually listen to what our body is telling us.
06:53Am I feeling full? Am I sleeping well? Do I feel acidic?
06:59Does my skin feel dry?
07:01And these are those words of wisdom or fact.
07:07I mean, not facts, but rather these are the tips that I have borrowed from Ayurveda when I started Dhun
07:13Wellness,
07:13which is to look within, to understand what is your body telling you,
07:18because your labs can correlate and corroborate.
07:22But you need to know that there's something wrong deep inside.
07:25And when Ayurveda tells you to understand what is your dosha, that is what you're born with.
07:32Are you someone with a very high digestive fire?
07:35Are you someone who naturally is sluggish and holds on to, you know, more fat than muscle?
07:40This is genetic.
07:42And now when we are seeing the research that says, whether it is telomere health or it is genetics or
07:49biomarkers for that matter,
07:51a genetic test can tell you whether protein suits you or not genetically.
07:57And Ayurveda can tell you the exact same thing in pulse diagnosis.
08:01So I feel it is about finding the right balance between wisdom and science and finding what suits you.
08:11I wouldn't like to move ahead in the world of longevity thinking of medicine in isolation.
08:17I think we've got a lot when it comes to our traditional form of medicine.
08:21And we have so much information and experts like Dr. Dang who have worked tremendously hard to create a pathology
08:30ecosystem that can now bridge the two.
08:34So as a person in my 30s now, I want to know both.
08:39I want to know how my digestion is working on the paper as well as what it's telling me in
08:43the morning.
08:44Dr. Dang, are you listening to the world we are in now?
08:47Are you listening to all these biomarkers and Ayurveda and red light therapy?
08:53From the standpoint of where you are, from what you've seen with your experience,
08:58what is the medical evidence behind all of this?
09:02Thank you, Sonal.
09:03I hope the mic is working.
09:05A little closer.
09:07Firstly, I'm sitting with...
09:08So just keep it a little closer.
09:10Firstly, I'm sitting with two people whom I admire and respect immensely.
09:15One thing common between me and Sonal is that I am wearing the same size trousers which I wore in
09:211979.
09:21Yeah, that's how it matters to us.
09:25In 1979, I bought a pair of jeans and which I hung it in Malmera.
09:31And till today, I try and fit into that.
09:34And if I do not, I feel I've lost out something in life.
09:38But on the other hand, when it comes to talking with Amir out here,
09:46look, I was trained to be a doctor.
09:50I only wanted to be a doctor.
09:53I love my profession.
09:55I love my patients.
09:57And I'm extremely passionate about that.
10:02During our days, I'll say our days, though my days are not over yet, I'm only 72.
10:07And I think I have a long way to go now.
10:10That it was just illness and you cured the disease.
10:15But now there's been a paradigm shift from illness to wellness.
10:22We do not give medicines, treat and then say go.
10:27Now we want our patients to live a healthy, full, complete life the way my other two co-panelists have
10:35done.
10:35And they can second say that they're leaders in the old field.
10:39During our days, it used to be talking to the patient, taking the history of the patient,
10:45understanding what they want to do, but then treating them accordingly.
10:50They can, ab, I hope you don't mind my shifting to Hindi, Sonal.
10:54Yeah, yeah, sure.
10:56Main to yeh kahunga, ab zindaki lambi nahi badi honi chahiye.
11:02Sonal, can you translate what I was saying?
11:05There you go.
11:06The longevity question has already been answered.
11:08Aan, zindaki badi nahi, lambi nahi badi honi chahiye.
11:12Badi honi chahiye.
11:13Yeah, yeah, yeah.
11:13I want to remain.
11:15I'm saying I, that means all of us sitting in this audience and all those who are seeing us,
11:20we want to lead a healthy life.
11:23Correct.
11:24Our joints, our different parts of our body start creaking, but they all have to work like
11:29an orchestra, like a symphony.
11:32So what both of them have said is absolutely right, I endorse.
11:36Supplements, I do not believe in.
11:38Like?
11:39I do not believe in.
11:41It's my personal view.
11:42I'm not contradicting.
11:43I'm just saying I do not believe in.
11:44I believe more in what Sonal is saying.
11:47When we're standing outside, he said I lead a very boring disciplined life.
11:53Yeah.
11:54I said that I lead even a more boring disciplined life.
11:59I had to reach my place of work at 7.50 in the morning, whatsoever may happen.
12:04And I was taught to me by my parents.
12:07I get up at 4.30 in the morning to exercise, which is absolutely essential.
12:12And how old are you, Doc?
12:14If you don't mind telling us.
12:15How young is he?
12:16I'm 72, I'm 1954 born.
12:1970…
12:20I'm 72.
12:2172.
12:2272 is not that bad.
12:23Not that bad.
12:24But I still feel that I've got yet 24 years old.
12:26But I like the other thing you said earlier as well.
12:28You said,
12:29Ya toh khalo ya toh jeelo.
12:31Exactly.
12:32Right?
12:32It is all about what we're eating now.
12:34Khaalo ya jeelo ya pahenlo.
12:38And what she's saying.
12:40Yeah.
12:40If you have to look smart.
12:42Yeah.
12:42And look one thing.
12:43So, the most important thing, according to me, in your own eyes is your own self-esteem.
12:49Yes.
12:50And your self-esteem is only as much as you can give yourself, your own body.
12:56I feel surprised when my patients and friends tell me time nahin tha.
13:02Chaubiz ghante mein, can't you even have one hour for yourself, for exercising, for meditating,
13:09from being away from this clutter of noise, being with your own self and finding out what
13:15is right or what is wrong?
13:18But that's the reality of urban life, right?
13:20There is no time to stand and stare.
13:22There is no time to even, you know, do the rest of the stuff.
13:26But let me come to Sunil now.
13:28You've been talking about biohacking.
13:29There is so much stuff right now from cold plunges to fasting routines.
13:35And I've seen you take particular interest in gardening, in earthing, in stuff like that.
13:41Is there, even the entire biohacking space I feel is so crowded.
13:45There is now a band for everything.
13:48For how much you sleep, to how much you drink, to how much you eat, how much protein intake
13:52you have, for your muscle mass to your body mass, there is just so much to track.
13:58A, what are you tracking, I want to know?
14:00And second, is there a degree to which we must go into this?
14:08See, I'm bad for the business of biohacking because I do my own thing and I follow what
14:14works for me.
14:15See, what Meera said was bang on.
14:18You got to understand your body and know what you're going through.
14:22You know, if it's gluten that's not working for you, yes, the markers today give you a
14:28feel as to what suits you, what doesn't suit you, but not necessarily hundred percent right.
14:35At times, even that doesn't work.
14:37But that also means not following celebrity diets.
14:41That also means that.
14:42No, but there is nothing called the celebrity diet.
14:45It's about quantifying your food.
14:47It's about understanding what is the amount of protein that you need, carb that you need,
14:51good carb that you need.
14:53It's a math.
14:54If you understand that, which is a basic, I don't think anything else matters.
14:59There is no special diet that I've ever had in my life.
15:02If I need to bulk, I know exactly what to do.
15:04I know how much of effort or training that I need.
15:08What time do I need to sleep?
15:10How much, you know, how many hours of sleep that I need to do?
15:13I do gardening.
15:14If I don't do yoga, I do gardening because it gives me the same eye.
15:18You know, I breathe better.
15:20I feel better.
15:21See, there's one thing that is very clear, that wellness is far, far cheaper than illness.
15:26So rather than fall ill, stay well all the time.
15:29And it's doing the basics.
15:32For me, if anybody talks to me, I always give, I'm 65, I turned 65 this year.
15:40But even physically, I might not look it, but even physically when I do action,
15:45I probably am as good as I was when I was 26 or 28.
15:52I understand that my muscles are like a wet tissue.
15:56So I need to keep it and place it carefully.
15:59So I warm up right.
16:00When I play my sport, the others warm up in 15 minutes and I'm ready.
16:04I take an hour to warm up because I don't want that injury happening.
16:08I don't want my muscle cramping.
16:10I don't want to have a stiff body the next day.
16:13So I know what my shortcomings are.
16:16The day we realize what our shortcomings are,
16:19it's a different look and feel that you want to give the world.
16:24This virtual world, the only thing it has done is messed us up
16:29because we're always trying to show ourselves as being very happy.
16:32And that's the biggest problem.
16:34Happy and lean and fair and head of full hair.
16:37That's what you're all interested in.
16:39But we know a thing or two of you keeping in shape a particular way.
16:42I have a video which you posted on your Instagram some time ago
16:46where you're doing a real hard run on the treadmill.
16:49And you're not wearing a watch.
16:52Like even when I run, I wear my Apple watch to see what my heart rate is like.
16:56But that one really gave me a, it made me skip a heart.
16:59Because like how is he running at 64 like that?
17:03So, and you don't track anything you're saying?
17:06No, I don't track anything.
17:08Like, again, like what Meera said,
17:10and like what Doc was saying,
17:13it's about how I feel.
17:15Have I slept right?
17:16Has it been a good morning?
17:18Do I need that extra half an hour of a nap?
17:20And then go to the gym half an hour later.
17:23Because my day begins with that.
17:25Like I said, it's about quantifying my food,
17:28the consumption of oil,
17:29the consumption of sugar,
17:31salt,
17:32and my meal on the right time.
17:35See, you know,
17:36we talk about the world and the wellness culture coming to us internationally.
17:42We have Ayush.
17:43We have everything in it.
17:45India has always had it.
17:47Indians have taken a lot,
17:49many more years to understand that.
17:52Yoga came back to us as yoga.
17:54Everything is coming back to us.
17:56So, I think we've just got to look in,
17:58read a lot more,
17:59see how you feel.
18:00Be active.
18:01And that's why I always tell everybody,
18:04you know,
18:04young parents,
18:05I always told them,
18:06get that child of yours into sport.
18:09And they'll be the best human version of you ever.
18:13Yeah.
18:14Meera, on that note,
18:15a lot of the therapies that you sort of talk about
18:18that Doon also does,
18:20it could be red light therapy,
18:22it could be a lot of,
18:23you know,
18:24doing some yoga,
18:25some asanas,
18:26it could also be about
18:27doing several kind of exercises
18:29to get your mind and body in balance.
18:32All of it requires a lot of time.
18:35Time,
18:36then indulgence
18:38that urban life living does not have.
18:41So, I want to ask you,
18:44somebody for working professionals,
18:46for people who are out there with regular lives,
18:48how much of this wellness is about indulgence
18:52and how much of it is about,
18:54let me do this as part of my routine?
18:57I was that person
18:59who felt like I don't have any time.
19:03After I had my daughter,
19:04I wanted to do a seven-day Ayurveda program
19:08because, you know,
19:10I had a complicated pregnancy,
19:12so I just wanted to give my body a reset.
19:16I did it once
19:17and I just felt it is so impractical.
19:21With help,
19:23with a supportive family,
19:24still I don't want to leave my daughter behind.
19:27There have to be other people like me,
19:29so for the next eight years,
19:30I did it at home
19:31and finally I just took the plunge and said,
19:36we need to be able to create a space
19:38and an urban space for wellness
19:40where you can do the same seven-day program in a city
19:44because eventually that active time that you need
19:48for your body and that therapy
19:49is between one to two hours
19:52and like Dr. Dang said,
19:54you should be able to take out
19:55at least one hour for yourself
19:56and that one hour could be
19:58through that one week
20:00an intensive program for your gut,
20:02for your sleep,
20:03for your hormonal health.
20:05Likewise, it could be
20:06once in the week
20:08you take out an hour
20:09to do red light,
20:10to do cryotherapy,
20:12to look after mitochondrial health.
20:14Essentially, it is that one hour
20:17that you're giving your body time to fix itself
20:21because, you know,
20:22like you mentioned earlier,
20:24the data,
20:25I think too much data is detrimental to us.
20:27What are we doing with it?
20:29The next step and that frontier is actually
20:32how do we analyze this data?
20:34How do we map it
20:35to become a true picture of what our bodies are?
20:38Otherwise, data is points in isolation.
20:41They're never actually getting connected
20:43to give me a conclusive answer.
20:45So when it's indulgence
20:48versus preventative care
20:49versus active addressing of a disease,
20:54each of them have their own place
20:56because when one says indulgence,
20:58you'll say,
20:59I'm tired,
20:59I feel like taking time out for myself.
21:02But that's also necessary.
21:04Those endorphins are also necessary.
21:07That reset that you feel
21:09when you go through things like burnout,
21:11like burnout and I feel hormonal health,
21:14is these are signs
21:18of urban metabolic dysfunction.
21:20We're calling it burnout.
21:22Hustle culture has glorified it,
21:25but eventually we're just burnt out people
21:27feeling like we haven't done enough anywhere.
21:30So if I do take out that one hour
21:32just to indulge,
21:33I think that's also important
21:35for somebody's lifestyle and life cycle.
21:37And when you move into an active form of intervention,
21:41whether it is a punch karma or it is IV
21:44or it is cryotherapy and infrared sauna,
21:47that's helping you perform better
21:49so that you skip the illness
21:51and you remain in a state of wellness.
21:53Hmm, hmm, interesting.
21:55Dr. Dang, do you see the conversation here?
21:57It's like a bipolar world of wellness.
22:00There is Ayurveda on one side,
22:02there is biohacking and gene therapy on the other.
22:05From the standpoint where you are,
22:07where you've seen this happen over the years,
22:09what is the one big diagnostic trend
22:12or perhaps, you know,
22:14just checking on stuff
22:15that you are really gaga about,
22:17that you think will like really open up?
22:20What gets you excited in this field?
22:23Sunilth is not one,
22:25but there are many events happening
22:28which we are seeing now
22:29and which we anticipate to happen in the near future.
22:35I will first try to slightly beg a little bit different
22:39from what Meera has said.
22:41Data and statistics make a lot of sense.
22:4513.5% of Indians are diabetics.
22:4915.2% of Indians are pre-diabetic.
22:54More than 65% of deaths in India
22:57occur due to non-communicable diseases.
23:01In addition to it,
23:02I can keep on rattling data
23:03about everything that is not correct.
23:06Are we here only to treat them?
23:09No.
23:10We are here to cure them.
23:13And that cure can happen
23:15if we control our lifestyles.
23:19Like what?
23:20But I meant more like
23:21these bioclinics that we hear of
23:23where you have full body scans.
23:24It can tell you at 20
23:26at what age in your life
23:28what disease you are going to get
23:29or if cancer is going to hit you or not.
23:31Do you think that is going to…
23:33is that something that India is ready for
23:35at the moment?
23:37Yes.
23:39I'll say India is…
23:40I'm just going to say why not.
23:41I'll say India is ready.
23:43I'll tell you why not
23:44because so many people
23:45and we were doing this little test backstage
23:46where we said that
23:47if you had a test today
23:49that told you that you could…
23:52if it told you
23:53if you're going to get cancer
23:54in the next six months,
23:56would you get it done?
23:57No, but if you could work on it
23:58and you could change that.
24:00Yeah.
24:01You know, it matters.
24:02That's why lifestyle changes come about then.
24:04What this helps is
24:05to change that lifestyle of yours.
24:08Rather than it hitting
24:09and then you getting into it
24:11and then realizing that
24:12I can't give hundred percent of myself
24:14because I am not hundred percent
24:15of the version I was.
24:17It makes a big difference.
24:18But Dr. Lang, is that test coming?
24:21Sonal, I'll answer your question in two parts.
24:24Your first question to me
24:26was that are we ready?
24:28Is India ready?
24:29Yes, India is ready.
24:31Provided we go and teach
24:34and coach from school teachers
24:36to textbooks to everything
24:37that what is health all about?
24:40Health is not illness.
24:42Health is not sickness.
24:44Health is well-being.
24:46Like what they say?
24:47Sorry again, I'll shift to Hindi.
24:50After 7,000,000 people
24:52we get a man's soul.
24:59And how do we love God?
25:00How do we love God?
25:01How do we love God?
25:03We love God.
25:06Health is the spiritual.
25:12follow what Sunil does. Absolute discipline. When we've got so many other good things to enjoy in life which God
25:20gave us, then why not just eat right, sleep right, have the right kind of discipline, love the people who
25:32love you, and get yourself loved.
25:35This is like so basic. In a world where people are tracking everything, you're telling me go back to basics
25:43and first principles.
25:43It is, it begins with basics. See the difference between me and somebody else training in a gym, it's very
25:51simple. Same equipment, same trainer, same routine.
25:56But at times X hasn't been able to deliver. A lot of my friends haven't been able to deliver. I've
26:01delivered. Why? Because for me, if I'm at the gym from six to seven, I take the gym home with
26:07me. I take it to the breakfast table.
26:10What does that mean? I take it to the breakfast table. I take it, I put it into my work
26:15routine. You know, I need to get up at X time every time after I'm at the desk.
26:19Or if I'm shooting, I need to make sure that I warm up right. I make sure that I eat
26:24at the right time. I make sure that that's the gym traveling with me everywhere.
26:29Because otherwise you're conscious for that one piece. And he says, no, I went to the gym today, I can
26:36have two drinks.
26:37That's not a reason for you to have two drinks. Have it if you want to. But I carry my
26:45gym to bed also.
26:47Because that's a habit that the gymnast taught me. If I sleep on time, otherwise you won't be able to
26:52deliver a complete workout tomorrow morning.
26:56Yeah.
26:56It is, you know, the thing is we've made it. We've…
27:00We've complicated it?
27:01Too much. Too much. Too much. Too much. Of course, this helps. It makes you realize…
27:05The wellness industry has done that. I mean, why am I saying we? I mean…
27:09Yeah, the wellness industry and it needs to grow. There's no doubt about it.
27:12Every treatment helps you in a way that you know best. You know, and being in the right mental space
27:20is,
27:21I think, the most important thing for all of us today.
27:24Right. Dr. Daeng was finishing up. But let me ask you this very direct question, Dr. Daeng.
27:28You did not let me finish my last question.
27:30Yeah, yeah, sure.
27:31No.
27:31That's what you said, the predictive test.
27:34Yeah.
27:35Now, I think for the first time, the first FDA-approved test by Garden Shield, a US-based company, which
27:48has spent more than a decade in doing research, from blood test, we can predict whether you're prone to or
27:56you're going to get 10 different kinds of cancers or not.
27:59Wow.
28:00And from 1st of April, I think, optimistically speaking, that is 1st of April means hardly 15 days.
28:06Yeah.
28:07Maybe 20 days.
28:08Yeah.
28:08This test will be available with me in India, in Delhi.
28:11Wow.
28:12But, yes…
28:13A blood test…
28:14A blood test…
28:15That can tell you…
28:16Say prostate cancer, colorectal cancer, lung cancer, pancreatic cancer, ovarian cancer, breast cancer…
28:22But, again, I'll ask one thing, will you get it done?
28:28That's a question which I leave the audience with…
28:29All of you have a yes or no in the audience with you, would you get it done?
28:32Yes.
28:32Yeah.
28:33Greens, I'm seeing a lot more greens.
28:35No.
28:36No?
28:37No.
28:37Okay.
28:38Let me…
28:38Let me see a…
28:39Show of hands there.
28:40Red, if you won't get it done, green, if you would get it done.
28:43My friend Kali, I would like you to answer this question, please.
28:45Mix, mix bag over there, come on.
28:47I would like you to answer the question, would you get it done?
28:50I'm thinking about it.
28:52Because…
29:05Because…
29:05My own test which I am being forced to get done by the next generation which I have
29:10produced of my children.
29:13They said that, Dad, you must get it done.
29:16Supposing tomorrow, I was to test positive for colorectal cancer.
29:21Now, any kind of tummy ache which I have, even if it is simple gastritis, I'll immediately
29:27rush to a gastroenterologist and a colonoscopy done.
29:30Come along, yeah.
29:33When the right time comes, we'll get it done.
29:35At least I believe ignorance is bliss at this age and stage in life.
29:40Okay.
29:40Let me ask you this.
29:41Three tests…
29:42Three tests that you think everybody should get done.
29:45No debates.
29:46Three tests that everybody should get done.
29:51Well, I think all…
29:53Being a conventional old-timer, I think the most important test which all of us must
29:59get done is testing our blood for plain, simple, any hemoglobinopathies.
30:07That is, having any thalassemia gene or any other hemoglobin variant.
30:15Why?
30:18Because…
30:18What is a hemoglobin variant?
30:21What is a thalassemia gene?
30:22It is different from a thalassemia disease.
30:25If you have a thalassemia gene and you get married to a person who is also having a thalassemia
30:32gene, then your progeny, there are nearly 25% chances that your progeny will have a thalassemia
30:39disease.
30:39So, you are saying Kundli Milani ki Jaga Thalassemia test milalena chahiya at the time of wedding.
30:45Exactly.
30:45I have been saying this.
30:46My first interview on NDTV was in 1985.
30:52That day also I said this.
30:54And today in 2026, I am saying the same thing.
30:59Kundli Milani is a zyadha awashak hai that get tests done so that you produce a healthy child.
31:06Okay.
31:06That's one.
31:07Two more.
31:08Again, I will talk about similar things because I am quite passionate about the same things.
31:12That when we talk about India, we are not talking only about urban India.
31:18We are talking about India as such.
31:22Enemias have been a major problem in our country.
31:26If you go to the remote parts of my India, which I love, travel to remote areas of Uttarakhand,
31:37where I am sorry with my head bowed down with shame, I will say that women are neglected.
31:44Especially the pregnant women.
31:47Is it not important that we give them…
31:50And if I may add, a lot of people confuse anemia to thalassemia as well and vice versa.
31:55That also happens.
31:55Number three then.
31:57Number three.
31:58The third test everybody should get done.
32:00Number three is of course, which is coming.
32:05Not many people are aware of this.
32:07That is more line of what Meera says.
32:11That is a functional medicine test.
32:13That is organic acid testing.
32:15I see.
32:17There is oat testing.
32:18Seventy-six organic acids.
32:21We tested that, in which we can find out how well our body is behaving.
32:28That gives its answer for diseases like behavioral disorders, from things like GI disorders, from
32:38things like mental disorders, from this like your physical well-being.
32:43Seventy-six organic acids can be tested by that one test.
32:46It is a plain, simple urine test.
32:49But nobody talks about it.
32:51I intentionally said three things.
32:54One, which all of us must get done.
32:57Number two, as we are sitting in India today conclave, which covers rural and urban India both.
33:03One, I said for the rural part of my friends, my brethren in the rural parts.
33:08And third, I said for the futuristic.
33:10Sure.
33:10And before I end, one point I totally agree with Meera.
33:15Sure.
33:16If the next space which we are getting into, which is the next buzzword, is longevity.
33:22Ah.
33:22But no test you have given for longevity, Dr. Dang.
33:26I thought you would say check your cortisol levels, check your NAG plus and all that.
33:31No test you have given us for anything.
33:33I think I am a trend.
33:34Everybody comes and tells me stress.
33:37In my era, I never knew what stress was.
33:40Mind you, stress and discipline are two different things.
33:45I reached my clinic at 7.50 in the morning.
33:487.50 does not mean 7.52.
33:50Ah.
33:51I am only as good as my last report.
33:54Right.
33:55I may have looked after anybody all my life, but if I do one mistake, I am hanged.
34:01I do not know what patients are going to come to me tomorrow for.
34:05Yeah.
34:05I do not know.
34:07Yeah.
34:07It is totally unpredictable.
34:09Yes.
34:09What diagnosis is going to be made tomorrow?
34:11True.
34:12But the fact still remains that it is only discipline.
34:15Absolutely right.
34:15I have little time, so I have to quickly move on to the last question.
34:19Meera, same question to you.
34:20Three therapies that you think can easily be done and urban Indian women, men should be
34:25doing.
34:27I am going to start with my favorite, which is the red light collagen bed.
34:31It is 20 minutes, super fast, works on mitochondrial health.
34:36The second one has to be Abhyanga.
34:39Very underrated.
34:40It is an Ayurveda full body massage, but one does not realize the next buzzword like longevity
34:46is lymphatics.
34:48And when you are working on your lymphatic system, it is the most efficient way to actually
34:53clean up the system, detox.
34:56And Abhyanga, I feel, is a traditional core therapy.
34:59We can do it with multiple tools and different tricks, but I would stick to Abhyanga.
35:04Yeah.
35:05Last one, I think is a buzz, is cryotherapy.
35:08Have you done cryo?
35:09Yeah.
35:10I know a lot of people like cryotherapy.
35:12Three minutes, in and out, endorphins, the kick, everything you require, faster muscular
35:18repair.
35:19Yeah.
35:20But what works like nothing else is good sleep.
35:24Ah.
35:24Sunil, I have to give you the last word now.
35:26You have to tell us three things that you do and that you think people can follow.
35:31I mean…
35:31Simple, very simple.
35:32And please say something exciting.
35:33No, it is…
35:35I am boring.
35:36My life is boring and because it's boring, it's healthy, you know.
35:40So, I always say you got to move, you got to exercise.
35:44You got to quantify your food and then sleep.
35:48Nothing else matters, I'm telling you.
35:50These are the three things that'll bring about a massive change in your entire being,
35:57your personality, everything.
35:59All right.
36:00On that note, ladies and gentlemen, I have to let it be.
36:01But thank you so much.
36:02You know, this was my, you know, like some stage, I've been showing you,
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