00:00In my career, I have found the women I've worked with to be incredibly supportive of me, except for Sarah
00:05Paulson.
00:05It was really, that was challenging.
00:08I play Toni Bradley, who is Ben Bradley, the editor-in-chief of the Washington Post's second wife,
00:13who was an artist and a sculptor and a mother and a child of incredibly progressive parents.
00:19She had a great big brain and a great big heart and was sort of uncomfortable in Washington social circles,
00:24even though she was very much a part of it. Her sister had had a big affair with JFK.
00:28I found it all very fascinating and all interesting and all surprising and all inspiring.
00:32And Meg Greenfield was a Pulitzer Prize winning editorialist and journalist.
00:36No big deal.
00:37No big deal.
00:37No big deal.
00:38Who was one of the first women to run an editorial page.
00:41She, at this time that the film is set, was the deputy editor.
00:44She was assisting Phil Jaylan.
00:46And she was probably at the paper only three or four years at this point when the Pentagon Papers were
00:49published.
00:50But she went on to become very dear friends of Kay Graham's and to become a very influential member of
00:55the Washington literati.
00:56She had a lot of integrity and she ran that page with a very strong sense of right and wrong.
01:01But she also kept her own personal opinion out of it.
01:04What was necessarily best for the paper or the conversation wasn't necessarily always what her opinion was.
01:10And she was able to keep those things separate in a way that I really respect.
01:13And was by all accounts a really wry, hilarious, smart, witty woman.
01:20I would have loved to know her.
01:21Have you had a moment recently where you've kind of been like, oh, this is something I still have to
01:24deal with as a woman?
01:25Yes.
01:26Oh, yeah.
01:26Yes, I did.
01:27And it wasn't a sexual dynamic, but it was a power issue in terms of I really did not feel
01:34that it was okay to speak about something for fear of being labeled difficult.
01:38And I regret it.
01:40And I won't do it again.
01:42I won't do it again.
01:43For me, I haven't experienced a lot of the sort of sexual harassment in our industry.
01:47I've worked with really, really profoundly respectful men of maybe another generation.
01:52They're sort of younger and they have these really strong women in their lives.
01:54But power is a different issue.
01:56I've been in a lot of rooms where I felt like I was excluded from conversations.
02:00Or even that my comments when they were heard were dismissed and sort of openly and jarringly dismissed in a
02:08really humiliating way.
02:10And so for me, it's been about power rather than sex.
02:12And those scenes with Katharine Graham when she's in the boardroom and she knows the answer to the question, but
02:17it takes a man to amplify her speaking were very painful for me to watch.
02:21We didn't learn in 1971.
02:23We have a long way to go.
02:24Fear not your own voice, your own personhood.
02:26I say that in a sort of, how does that become actionable?
02:30How does one do that?
02:31I suppose you have to recognize the sound of it, I guess.
02:34And also allyship.
02:36I think there's a myth that's been perpetrated about women.
02:39About how women treat each other and who we are to each other.
02:42That's actually very inaccurate.
02:43You would do well to seek out those mentors in your own life, but also to be that mentor.
02:48Even from the jump to a person who's younger or less experienced than you.
02:51And when we start doing that, then I think we can start to build the kind of coalitions we need
02:55to be heard.
02:55Never again.
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