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Sneaky Joe DiBiase is joined by Chad DeDominicis, founder of Expected Buffalo and host of the Expected Buffalo podcast. The guys start with a post-mortem on the Connor Hellebuyck saga, and Chad shares what he knows about the way things went down. Then the guys move onto the Dylan Larkin discussion and Chad explains why he thinks Larkin would be a perfect addition for the Sabres. Chad also touches on what he believes are the biggest issues with the Sabres on the ice, the new players, and more!
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00:00Sabres after dark for the first time.
00:03Sabres way after dark.
00:0410.30 at San Jose.
00:07Colton Ellis expected in goal.
00:08Some line changes.
00:09We'll talk with Lindy Ruff coming up at 9.30.
00:12A little later for him this morning as they are obviously out west.
00:16So that's coming up in the next hour.
00:18We will talk some hockey now with Chad Diedemeneces from Expected Buffalo
00:22on trade markets and what's going on with the team early on to start this season as well.
00:27Chad, thanks for jumping on.
00:29What are your plans for tonight?
00:31Are you staying up through the whole thing?
00:32I'm getting up at 3.45 in the morning tomorrow to watch it before the show.
00:36So what's your plan?
00:39Yeah, usually I'll make the whole thing.
00:42But what I tell people is critical is the pregame nap.
00:45So I'll try to go lay down at like 9 for like an hour to kind of set it.
00:50But it'll be a battle.
00:52It'll be a rough day tomorrow for sure.
00:53I don't know if you heard our last segment, but Owen's going to do like a three-hour sleep
00:56before the game starts, which that can work too.
01:00That's not bad.
01:01We're going to fall.
01:01That's not bad.
01:02The pregame nap is critical.
01:03It's very important.
01:04Yeah.
01:05Well, tonight's game, we'll see what we get.
01:06Sabres are 500 on the season point-wise.
01:09There's a lot happening, Chad.
01:11I mean, with the team overall on the ice and then obviously off the ice.
01:15I feel like we should start off the ice because that's where a lot of conversations are happening
01:19right now.
01:20I know that's what people ask me about and what, you know, Twitter, a lot of it is at
01:24the moment with the team.
01:26I want to start, though, with kind of the post-mortem on Hellebuck, which went for so long, so many
01:33months.
01:34How do you feel about where we ultimately ended up?
01:37Like what he went for, which I still kind of feel like it's two pieces and then a bunch
01:41of stuff.
01:42And where he ends up going, New Jersey, who for months kind of was even saying themselves
01:48like, that's not how we do goalie.
01:50They end up being the spot.
01:52How do you feel it all kind of ended up going for Winnipeg and for the Sabres not getting
01:57him?
01:59Yeah.
02:00I mean, I'm not overly upset about it or anything.
02:05I kind of make myself feel better the other day.
02:08I went back and kind of looked at some things I said over the summer to kind of remind myself
02:12where I was before there was 11 games and some poor goaltending and to reset my mind
02:18where it should have been.
02:21So, yeah, I mean, for what Winnipeg wanted at the draft and at free agency, which is when
02:28the Sabres were really into it, I feel like for the most part, they were kind of out after
02:33July 1st.
02:33I mean, they were still in and trying to make it work, but it became very difficult with
02:36the no-move clauses.
02:38So, yeah, I mean, I wouldn't have paid what they wanted.
02:42As we see what the final price ended up being, it would have been significantly more than the
02:47Sabres would have paid the draft.
02:49So, you know, sure, you definitely could use him with the way things have started, so I'm
02:56not saying that.
02:57But then really what I reminded myself is, you know, all along, I said he was a floor
03:03raiser, right?
03:04So he maybe, he solidifies them as a new playoff team, you could say, right?
03:08And that's a good thing.
03:09But I don't think it makes it necessarily a cup contender.
03:12I think what they're trying to do now would maybe make them closer to a cup contender.
03:16You know, I think a top six center can push you along more than perhaps a goaltender could.
03:22But again, it's a playoff, you know, if a goalie gets hot.
03:24But any goalie could get hot.
03:25We've seen that year in and year out.
03:27So, boys are tough.
03:30I guess it's unfortunate for how long it went.
03:33But until at the end of the day, not really eating up about it.
03:36So now you mentioned the top six center.
03:38You reported yesterday, wrote about expectedbuffalo.com, about the Sabres, and Dylan Larkin.
03:44And I guess without them being on the list at this moment, I know that there's a 10-team
03:49list out there that they're not on.
03:51How would you handicap it?
03:54And do you like this idea for what it would cost, expecting that it would be more than what
03:58Hellebuck just went for?
04:01Yeah, I'm okay paying the price there because you have, and I know it's 30, or turning 30,
04:06whatever, but I think it's a player that you have locked in for a couple of years.
04:12And also with the going right for a center is now, his contract is actually pretty cheap
04:16at $8.7 million for what he'll give you.
04:19So, yeah, I mean, I think it makes a lot of sense.
04:22I would pay more for it.
04:25But to your point, like, really, I think it's going to come down to how bad Dylan Larkin
04:29wants out of there.
04:30Because a lot of those 10 teams, you can kind of just go through it logically.
04:33The teams on a 10-team list, there's really not an ability to do it.
04:37And, you know, if he was going to Minnesota, he'd be in Minnesota already.
04:40Like, they clearly can't come to an agreement there.
04:43Maybe they eventually do.
04:45I don't know.
04:46But it's weird because, like, you know, Buffalo now, who is trying to make a strong push to
04:52get in there, Friedman has talked about Montreal a lot.
04:55And it's weird.
04:55I feel like those two teams can offer the best packages to the Red Wings for what they want.
05:02But, again, it all comes down to Larkin.
05:04So, really, I think we're going to get to a point.
05:07He's expanded that list, I think, at least three times now.
05:09So, maybe he's going to have to do it a fourth time.
05:11But it's going to come down to him, how badly he wants out of there.
05:15And I think if he's willing to include the Sabres, which is a big if, a big if,
05:22I think they can find the package and make it work.
05:25And then we'll see how the money works out because that's the part I really can't piece together.
05:30But, you know, it's really all in Larkin's hands, to be honest.
05:33Yeah.
05:34I wonder, too, like, how much results now will play into that, right?
05:39Like, it felt like the genesis of this was the guy hasn't made the playoffs since he was a teenager.
05:44He wants to win.
05:45And is it going to be so easy for the Sabres or anybody else to get him to say yes
05:52if they're, say,
05:53below where he currently is in the standings with the Red Wings?
05:57Right.
05:58No, that's a fair point.
06:01I mean, if you look at it, his last expanded list was just the top ten U.S. markets by
06:07standings, basically.
06:08Right.
06:08I think almost exactly.
06:12So, yeah, I mean, it was surely, I'm sure, helped the Sabres if they can put some wins together here
06:17and move up in the standings.
06:19But, you know, again, it's like, you're coming back to it.
06:22It's going to depend.
06:23Like, if, you know, all these good teams, that's the hard thing.
06:26When you handicap yourself to good teams, you know,
06:28the Red Wings really can't miss here on what they get back.
06:32It's difficult for those teams to give up, you know, guys or assets that would make sense for the Red
06:38Wings
06:38and then squeeze him in from a calf perspective and even a roster perspective.
06:41So, it's kind of the tough spot he has put him in, especially in season.
06:44It's even more difficult.
06:45So, maybe this drags along to the deadline and something happens,
06:49or maybe he just gets fed up in a couple weeks and goes somewhere.
06:53Maybe he does go to Canada and goes to Montreal or Buffalo or some other team that pops in here,
06:58too.
06:58We'll see.
06:59I think it's going to be, with Hellebuck on now, he's the new focus,
07:03and I wonder how that kind of turns up the heat maybe a little bit.
07:06You know, with this connection here, the Sabres and Larkin,
07:09do you feel like that Yarmou is just hell-bent on doing something that makes them better right now?
07:17Like, they have been in on so many things.
07:19And I know I see a lot of the jokes about, like, Brandon Bean calling on guys
07:24and, like, Yarmou doing the same thing.
07:27But it does sound like Yarmou is actually willing to pay prices more than, you know,
07:32what you get sometimes on the Bills side where it literally is just a phone call checking in.
07:36Do you feel like there's a real aggression coming from the Sabres on these big ideas
07:43that eventually they're going to get one done?
07:47Even if it's not this one, like, maybe the next time it pops up, if they don't get Larkin,
07:51they're like, I should expect the Sabres will be in on that.
07:55Yeah, for sure.
07:56I mean, all these situations we know are more than a phone call, right?
07:59I mean, Pareko, there was a deal in place.
08:01Thomas, they got pretty far down the list.
08:05Hellebuck, they got pretty far down conversations.
08:07And then even this one, this isn't, with Larkin, this isn't just,
08:10I made a phone call, I want to be on his trade list.
08:11I mean, they've discussed players, they've exchanged ideas.
08:16Like, it's been beyond just a phone call of, hey, we would like to be on Larkin's list.
08:19So, yeah, I think to answer your question, I think he'll eventually get one.
08:23Which one it'll be, I don't know, but I would probably put a good guess together
08:28that every big name that pops up here, especially if it's going to be a center,
08:33he's going to be in there trying to make that work
08:35because they've been after a center for a little bit here.
08:37Is that interesting to you at all?
08:39Like, I know coming into the year, the Sabres had, in terms of volume,
08:44so many centers and guys that play center.
08:46Some of those are guys that play at the bottom of your lineup.
08:48But it has not turned into an advantage on the ice.
08:52You've got some guys that are playing out of position.
08:54Do you, is that surprising to you that we are a month into the season
09:00and it feels like, yeah, center is exactly where they need to be?
09:03Or really, is it just more the caliber, right?
09:05Like, Norris, McLeod, you know, Krebs, these are all guys that can play center,
09:09but you would like guys to play in the top six.
09:14Yeah, I think it's a quality over quantity thing, right?
09:17They have plenty of centers, as you said.
09:19Some guys used to be playing centers that are on the wing.
09:22But I don't think they have a true top six center.
09:26I mean, I'll sit here and tell you that I think Thompson belongs on the wing
09:29all day of the week.
09:31And he's their top line center, at least going into tonight, probably.
09:34Osland has been their best, you could say, top six center.
09:38And I don't know if they love that idea, although that's good.
09:41That's not what they're aiming for.
09:42So they need that guy at the top.
09:46And I feel like they've really been missing that for, you know,
09:48quite a few years now.
09:50That's what they thought Cousins was going to be and it wasn't.
09:52So they were hoping Norris was going to be and he wasn't
09:54or hasn't been so far.
09:55So they're back to the drawing board there.
09:58But, yeah, I mean, that big guy at the top is something they haven't had
10:03since Eichel.
10:03And I'm not saying Larkin is Eichel level, but, you know,
10:06he's closer to it at least.
10:08Chad Diedemannis has expected Buffalo with us on the Western.
10:11How they can read all about him posting.
10:13He posted yesterday about Larkin and the Sabres being connected there.
10:16On the ice, Chad, what do you feel like is their biggest issue right now?
10:20I know they have a few, but what do you think is the biggest?
10:24And is there one that you feel like there's a way back from?
10:27Like I've kind of just given up on thinking that the power play is ever
10:31going to be, you know, at least this season,
10:33is going to be something above average in the league.
10:35Is there an area of their game that you're kind of thinking like,
10:39okay, that's not going well, but I feel like at some point
10:42it's going to start turning around?
10:45Yeah, I mean, I think for me it's scoring.
10:47I still have confidence.
10:48I still score goals.
10:49I'm probably not scoring.
10:51It's just maybe they're not scoring at the level that they were
10:54the last few years, which is, you know, can be difficult to ask.
10:56But I think it'll get there.
10:59One of the things I posted yesterday, another article I did before the
11:02whole Larkin thing blew up, was about their shooting and kind
11:05of where their, you know, their offense is coming from.
11:07And some of their rush numbers are actually pretty poor.
11:11And that wasn't my intention to go look at that.
11:13I kind of just got down the wormhole and stumbled upon it.
11:15But they were, you know, a top two the last couple years rush scoring team.
11:21Now they're at 16th.
11:22And then the last two years they've been one and two in carrying the puck
11:26into the zone and goals coming off of it.
11:28They're worse than the league in that this year.
11:3032nd, which is, you know, that's their bread and butter, right?
11:33That's what made them who they were and how dangerous they were.
11:37And I think that's alarming.
11:38They're getting away from that.
11:39Now I understand maybe they want more diversity and you want to forecheck more
11:43and, you know, that's more sustainable in the playoffs.
11:45I get it.
11:46You know, that's fine.
11:47But it can't come at that much of a dip in what made you who you are.
11:52So I think that'll turn around.
11:54I think there's a lot of, you know, cohesion issues in terms of exiting the zone,
12:01forwards making mistakes, turning the puck over, not getting your rush going,
12:05not getting your transition going, bad passes and escapes,
12:08and hopefully getting some guys back together like Benson and Page
12:11and going with Oslin, you can kind of get beyond just one line doing all the work
12:16for you offensively and get back to what, you know,
12:20made you that dangerous offensive team.
12:21Chad Dino-Minesis with us.
12:23Do you feel like that is something that they're really missing from the guys
12:28they lost last year?
12:30Like where do you think they are in replacing Tuck, replacing Byram,
12:35you know, like the skills that they gave them?
12:37And is this kind of all under the same umbrella here?
12:41Do you feel like the scoring, the rush opportunities, breaking out is, you know,
12:46that's a work in progress in part because those are veteran guys
12:48that they're replacing that were good at that?
12:52Yeah, I think that that's certainly part of it.
12:55The Zellweger-Byram thing, I'm not quite sure because I think Zellweger's
12:59given you a lot of that.
13:02Yeah, but still maybe it's more of that system familiarity with Byram
13:05that you're missing out of the gate, right?
13:08I mean, Tuck, yeah, for sure.
13:10No, he wasn't always the greatest rush forward, but he was there.
13:14Maybe from a finishing aspect, I think you're definitely missing that.
13:18You know, I think that we're missing Tuck and the penalty kill.
13:20I think that we're missing Tuck from a leadership standpoint,
13:22which were two areas I was kind of concerned about when he did go.
13:25Not so much done replacing his scoring because, in a sense, you could say,
13:29you know, Quinn's replaced that scoring, but now he needs somebody to replace
13:31what Quinn was last year, so it's kind of a trickle-down effect there.
13:36But, yeah, I think on the penalty kill, they're missing him.
13:38I think leadership-wise, they're probably missing him.
13:42But, yeah, I think from a finishing aspect, too, he's one of the best finishers
13:46in the league the last few years.
13:48I mean, we got a firsthand glimpse of it against the Capitals the other night.
13:53So, yeah, yeah, I think they're missing both of them a little bit.
13:57What do you think of goaltending right now?
13:59So, no Hellebuck, and you feel like it's just going to be luking in for the long haul here?
14:06Do you expect that they'd be in on another idea like that?
14:10I guess, really, the question should be, were they in on Hellebuck because they thought
14:13that would just make them better, or were they in on Hellebuck because they are looking
14:17to, at some point, change out who their number one goaltender is?
14:21I think they ran on a Hellebuck because they made them better.
14:25But now, I mean, I don't know what you really can do besides just go with luking in
14:30and hope that works for you.
14:33It seems like Ellis might play tonight against San Jose, so we'll see how that goes
14:36because that's a pretty strong offensive team.
14:39But, yeah, until Lyon's back in the mix, and who really knows what's going on there?
14:44We're in the November almost, and he hasn't played a game.
14:46He's not practicing.
14:48I have some concerns what that looks like.
14:52I mean, really, there's – but what else are you going to do?
14:56You know, Hellebuck is out of the picture now.
14:59I know people have mentioned, like, Gustafsson when he gets back from Minnesota,
15:02but he just had hip surgery, and that freaks me out with goaltenders.
15:06And there's not really a lot in the free agent market.
15:08The Rangers just tried to do Reimer, and he, like, lasted less than a period yesterday,
15:13so that didn't work out for him.
15:15So, I don't know.
15:15I think you just got to hope.
15:17Goalies are goofy, and maybe he finds a streak, and Lyon gets back in here
15:22in the next couple weeks, hopefully, and that tandem works for you
15:25because I don't really know another option at this point.
15:28How bad do you think it is going for Lukin?
15:30Like, Jeremy and Paul sparred a little bit while I was off on Friday,
15:33and I know he has got a microscope on him on every goal,
15:38and I feel that, and I'm doing it naturally, too.
15:41Like, I'm internally, like, all right, like, how much of that was his fault on that goal?
15:46Like, everyone is so locked in on UPL right now.
15:50Like, how bad is it?
15:52Is it worse than it sounds, or is it about as bad as it kind of sounds?
15:58I think it's worse.
15:59I mean, I think there's a considerable microscope that is making it feel worse
16:04than it actually is.
16:06Because, look, I mean, with the Lukin, it's always he'll make those saves for you,
16:12and he has done that the last couple of weeks.
16:14He's made them big saves for them.
16:16He's kept them in some games.
16:17He's gotten overtime a few times.
16:19But then there's the backbreaker.
16:21Just, ah, it's the Flyers' goal, right?
16:23It's like, come on, man, like, and there's other ones that just squeeze through them
16:28or go through them, and that's just been a thing his entire career.
16:30So it's not so much that he's not, you know, making those big saves for you
16:35or making those big plays to keep you in games.
16:37It's the backbreakers.
16:38It's the ones that squeak through, and then one squeaks through,
16:41and then a second squeaks through, and then before you know it,
16:43it's three to four goals every single night, and it's tough.
16:47It's a tough, tough way to live.
16:48And that's why when I said the scoring, like, they are scoring goals
16:51because they have to score four to five to win every game,
16:54and their one-goal games are in it.
16:56But, you know, it'd be nice one night, or maybe three is enough.
17:00But we haven't had that yet.
17:01So I don't think it's terrible.
17:05Like, I don't think it's, oh, my God, this is the worst thing ever.
17:07But we're still, you're just not getting those, the full game.
17:11And he would put together a few last year in streaks,
17:14and I don't think he's put one complete game together all season.
17:18Chad D. Domenicis with us, Expected Buffalo, the Expected Buffalo podcast.
17:22Anything I'm missing?
17:22Do you want to toss anything else in there, or is that pretty much it?
17:26No, I think you got all that.
17:28All right.
17:29At CMD Domenicis if you want to follow him on Twitter.
17:31Well, thanks, Chad, for joining, and we'll be watching.
17:35Yes, sir. Late night. Can't wait.
17:37Yep. Thanks, Chad.
17:39Dylan Larkin, he's reporting on that.
17:41You can find that on his website.
17:42He's on Twitter, and they've got the link right there about the Sabres
17:46exploring the Dylan Larkin idea, which I like how he put it about the overall
17:53with Yarmou and chasing Larkin now.
17:57I kind of feel the same way.
18:00It's a pretty optimistic view of it, but how Chad put it was,
18:04like, eventually he's going to get one of these.
18:08If you're going to be in on all of them, like,
18:10I'd like to think that eventually one of them will land.
18:13And we just don't know if it's going to be this one.
18:16And the point about Montreal and Buffalo for Larkin,
18:19it might end up being what it comes down to.
18:21If he does want to go, and no one on that list either makes sense package-wise
18:28for Detroit or, you know, isn't serious about acquiring him from their standpoint.
18:34I got two teams that were in the second round last year,
18:37one of which made it to the third round.
18:40Both are good, in theory.
18:45Pick one.
18:46Do you want to go to Canada, or do you want to stay in the U.S.?
18:52Or do you want to stay in Detroit?
18:53I wonder if that...
18:54I hope that doesn't end up being what we see here,
18:59but the longer he plays with the Red Wings...
19:01He scored a goal last night, didn't he?
19:02Like, a big, important goal near the end of the game.
19:04They won.
19:06Like, you just don't want to see Detroit turn it around
19:10because maybe there would be a way back solving that.
19:14Him being on the ice is a little different to me
19:16than what we just saw with Connor Hellebuck,
19:19who was sitting out in suspensions and like,
19:22oh, is he going to show up?
19:23Well, we don't want him to show up.
19:24This guy's in the locker room.
19:25This guy's on the ice.
19:26He's playing well.
19:28He's getting along with his teammates, seemingly fine
19:30with what's going on, going on.
19:34If the Red Wings start winning,
19:36then maybe that becomes a solution for them,
19:40that they just don't feel like they have to act.
19:43At least they're talking, though.
19:44They're talking with other teams,
19:45which should make you think that they are at least
19:48intrigued by trading him,
19:49and that it's just the list that they're working off
19:52that's been a problem.
19:54Yeah, the Minnesota thing, too.
19:55It's incredible that Minnesota's not going to be able
19:59to get that done.
20:00He wants to go there.
20:03They want him badly.
20:05And what?
20:06The Red Wings just aren't interested in any of the things
20:08that the Wild would have to offer?
20:12That's pretty much it, right?
20:13Like, Chad said the same thing.
20:15If he was going to go to Minnesota,
20:17he'd be in Minnesota.
20:19The motivation of the player and the team are so high
20:23that there has to be a massive roadblock
20:26that you're not going to be able to get across.
20:28And it's been months since they kind of came up.
20:32I'm just excited overall about acquiring someone eventually,
20:36but that won't last forever.
20:38Like, this is a little bit of a spark here.
20:40Like, okay, Larkin has an idea.
20:42Like, let's see if they can get that done.
20:45But every game they lose and a guy like that's not on the ice for them,
20:48it's just going to get a little bit more and more and more tense.
20:52Let's go to DJ in Lockport.
20:54Hey, DJ.
20:55Hey, good morning, man.
20:57So, overall for the Sabres,
20:59obviously I was upset about the Hallabuck thing.
21:01I really wanted the guy.
21:02I thought he would have been a great addition to this team.
21:05But the one consistent that I feel that I have faith in is Lindy Ruff.
21:10He's done this many times with these young teams.
21:13Obviously, he's a lot of the same players,
21:15same quote-unquote nucleus minus Tuck and Byram.
21:18So, I have faith that he's going to find what he needs to find for these guys
21:24and make them move forward in the right direction.
21:27It might take a couple games.
21:28Obviously, we're a few weeks into the season.
21:30But I do have faith in Ruff, and I think they're going to turn it around.
21:34And hopefully, Yarmulke can, like you said, grab a whale and throw him on the squad
21:38and not give too much up to get him.
21:41But, yeah, I have faith in Lindy that they'll figure this out and move forward.
21:44Maybe not win the division, but I feel like they should find a way into the playoffs this year.
21:49So, I'll hang up and listen, bud.
21:52Thanks, DJ.
21:53We're getting a taste of that tonight, right?
21:55Like, hey, let's change some things up.
21:59We're going to break apart the line that's been together since day one of training camp
22:02that's looked great in the name of let's get two top lines rolling.
22:08And I like that strategy also.
22:14Benson up with Tage and Helen Use.
22:16Like, get those two going.
22:18And Benson gets everybody rolling.
22:22Last year, every line he played on, they'd score.
22:28Even when Sam Carrick was his center for, like, two weeks.
22:31He scored five goals.
22:34Norris performed.
22:36Norris performed last year with Benson.
22:38Benson is just the put him with a guy to get him going.
22:42I mean, it was, what was the line?
22:44It was Norris, Benson, and Doan, I think was the line, wasn't it?
22:50That those two were playing on a lot?
22:52And Norris, man, he's so lost this year.
22:56And even last year, it was quiet.
22:59Right?
22:59Like, I don't, I can't tell you off the top of my head, like, a big, impactful moment that Norris
23:06had last year for this team.
23:09I'm sure it happened.
23:12But it was just kind of there.
23:13He was just kind of there.
23:15And he had 34 points in 44 games.
23:18I think that's a 60-point pace.
23:20That's not bad at all.
23:22It's, for what he's being paid, that's actually about, that's about good for what an $8 million player does in
23:30the NHL.
23:3160 points, middle, six, center, fine.
23:36And this year, it is just so lost for him.
23:39So maybe Benson eventually just, all right, well, we got Tage rolling.
23:43Now let's put Benson down with Norris and get, just, you need more guys that are able to do it
23:50themselves.
23:52And, because Benson can't play with everybody.
23:55Oslin can't play with everybody.
23:59Not everybody should be so reliant on, well, I've got to play with this guy.
24:03You know, it's one area that they used to have a few guys like that.
24:07And it was a problem for the team.
24:09Olofsson was like that when they had that core.
24:12And Skinner was like that.
24:13Skinner was 100% like that.
24:15Skinner would score 40 goals for you if you put him with the right centerman.
24:18His whole career, no matter at any point, you put him with a great center, he was going to score
24:2330 to 40 goals.
24:24You put him with a bad center, he was going to be not even an NHL-level player.
24:31And this team, I'm not supposed to have guys like that.
24:38Nobody should be, feel isolated on their own that they can't produce unless they're with a certain individual.
24:50Norris, McLeod, Zucker tonight.
24:51I can't imagine that goes well, but maybe.
24:54All right.
24:55More of your phone calls when we come back.
24:57Sabres and Sharks tonight, 10.30.
24:59It's going to be a late one.
25:01And I've got a couple more football thoughts for you on around the league.
25:04We talked Bills and Ravens earlier.
25:06We'll do, of course, plenty more of that throughout the coming days as we approach Sunday's game.
25:11We've got Mike Florio coming up at 9.15.
25:14The NFC East odds are really interesting because there's a team that's up a game and a half in a
25:23division right now
25:23that's not favored to win their division.
25:26So some NFL notes and your phone calls when we come back.
25:29Jeremy and Joe here on WGR.