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Jeremy White, Owen Parker, and Joe Cali discuss the Sabres 3-1 loss to the Flyers last night, and the growing frustration about Ukko Pekka-Luukkonen’s struggling play. The guys react to the radio call of the third goal in which color commentator Rob Ray groaned as if he’d been HIT. They discuss why the Luukkonen play is SO frustrating, as its symbolic of what many Sabres fans feel is wrong with the Sabres- a lack of action.
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00:00We're gonna need that Rob call a lot. It's a TNT game, so maybe not everyone heard Rob on that
00:06goal.
00:08It's a little bit of a gift. I did not know that until Joe Callie just played that.
00:12Hey everybody, good morning. Happy Thursday. It's 6 a.m. It's cold outside.
00:17Sabres lost. Jeremy White. Owen Parker. Joe Callie. Joe's off today. Sneaky Joe.
00:22He's out today and tomorrow. We're in here hanging out.
00:27But, and, you know, you guys are just shaking your heads. Hold on. Get me that Rob call one more
00:35time, Joe Kelly.
00:37Because, you know, there are great calls in the history of sport. There's Do You Believe in Miracles?
00:43There's I Cannot Believe What I Just Saw. There's Joe Buck on the Diggs Minnesota Miracle.
00:50And then there's Rob's...
00:55Crevier following up. Lost his stick. Flyers are on it.
00:59Lucan in. Had that one played behind him and off the back of his pad and in the neck.
01:04Oh, man. I was...
01:07Pad and in the neck.
01:11That sums up the feeling, I would say.
01:13I mean, yeah. Wow.
01:18That's the way it goes.
01:20That's the way it goes.
01:21All right. What are we going to do about this?
01:25Anybody out there, what are we going to do about this?
01:27Listen, the thing about this that's going to get, whatever, weird.
01:31We talk about the Sabres. We talk about the Bills.
01:34We share our opinions.
01:35Sometimes they're correct. Sometimes they're wrong.
01:37We just, you know, we're sports fans.
01:39Why are you listening to this station?
01:40Because you're a person that, you know, sometimes yells at your TV.
01:42That's pretty much why we all do this.
01:45So, do I know more about goaltending and team building than the GM?
01:50Probably not.
01:51There have been GMs that I have, Jason Bottrell.
01:54But this one, probably not.
01:57And what are they going to do?
02:00What are they going to do?
02:01Now we're a full 10 games into the season.
02:03They have two regulation wins in 10 games.
02:06How's their expected goal total?
02:07Is it still good?
02:08Are people still going to lead me over to expected goal share?
02:11Care that everything will be fine as they start a 10-game sample of digging themselves a hole they'll have
02:18to dig out of, potentially?
02:19It's not that deep of a hole.
02:21But, you know, they're fine.
02:23They're in the mix.
02:2410 points in 10 games.
02:25A good old 84-point pace.
02:27They can play a lot better.
02:28They can get more saves.
02:29They can score more goals.
02:31That's for sure, too.
02:32In the goal-scoring department, they have 28.
02:34That's not that far off, you know, the league, whatever.
02:39Goals against, it's not that bad.
02:41They're just a team that kind of sits around here right now.
02:44So, goals against is where they're kind of rough.
02:46They are, like, fifth at the top.
02:49And they've got one thing where, like, say, percentage is bad.
02:52I mean, do I want to do expected goals last night?
02:55Because Luganen did not have a bad night in that department.
02:57So, that is, I went back, I was at the Buffalo Broadcasters Association dinner last night.
03:03So, I didn't watch the game live.
03:05But I went back and watched it this morning.
03:06And I want you to take us through, not to interrupt you, when you saw the third goal.
03:12Yeah.
03:13Well, what happened?
03:15So, I'm.
03:15GG your body in that moment.
03:17I'm driving home.
03:19And I'm listening to the, I'm listening to GR.
03:21I'm listening to Dan and Rob.
03:22So, I'm, like, I get there, I get in the car just as the second intermission ends.
03:27I hear Derek and Brian send it to break.
03:31And they come back.
03:32And I'm, like, all right, one goal game.
03:34Zucker just scored on the power play.
03:36Like, they've been, everything I've seen, like, I'm checking Twitter.
03:39Like, they've been rolling this team.
03:41Yep.
03:41They're just getting goalied by Vladar.
03:42Yep.
03:43And everything I went back and watched supported that.
03:45And I agree.
03:47And I'm driving down.
03:48I'm driving down.
03:49I'm driving past the airport.
03:50I remember, I remember where I was.
03:53This is the level.
03:54For an October game.
03:55Yes.
03:56I'm driving past the airport.
03:58And I hear that call.
04:00That we just, you know, ugh.
04:01And I know, like, oh, no.
04:04Tomorrow is going to be tough.
04:06And I'm in the car.
04:08I'm driving.
04:08So, I can't see it yet.
04:10But the call that Dan gives, the Rob reaction, I know what just happened.
04:15He just, he got caught chasing outside of his depth.
04:19Couldn't get back to his net and put it in on himself.
04:24And I didn't need to see it before I know that's not okay.
04:29In that spot, at that time of the game, the season that he is having, the rumors that are flying,
04:36that is not something you can stomach.
04:40And, like, they just scored late on the power play, on something that's been struggling.
04:46New guy comes back.
04:47You're showing life.
04:49And the team's playing great.
04:51And a guy scored from behind the goal line.
04:54I mean, that sound that Rob made is what is going through every player on that bench's mind, including the
05:01coach.
05:02Yep.
05:02Everybody is going, ugh.
05:03And you know what is odd about this?
05:06I mean, maybe not odd.
05:07You could speak to this, too.
05:09Whatever.
05:09Sometimes we do these charts.
05:11Sometimes you watch the game.
05:12You don't need to see the chart.
05:14Sometimes you watch a game and the chart helps.
05:15Because the expected goals for the Flyers after that goal go way up.
05:21Way up.
05:22Because the Sabres died.
05:23Yeah.
05:24The team died when that goal went in.
05:27They get it to 2-1, and then early in the third, a goal goes in that shouldn't, and the
05:31team, it was over.
05:33It ended on that goal.
05:35You could say they only scored one goal, and that wouldn't be incorrect.
05:38But half the reason they only scored one goal is because they spent the entire third period shell-shocked by
05:43a goal that went in.
05:45And Philly's expected goals, and Philly's carrying of the play, they took over the game after they scored.
05:51Not they took over the game, and then they got one by and were mad because the defense, or whatever,
05:56because they couldn't carry the puck.
05:57That goal goes in.
05:58You know what it reminded me of?
06:00The playoff game.
06:01It's game five.
06:02Five, what's the game where Zach Benson scores right at the end of the period and gets his name chanted,
06:08and they're down two, maybe two, maybe one, going to the third period, and all of a sudden, like, all
06:13right, this might still be a game.
06:14They show life, and they gave up a goal early.
06:17Again.
06:19So, I don't know.
06:21One thing that's going to be so strange about all this, or that's going to be remembered, it's going to
06:25be remembered in ten years if Hellebuck flames out because he gets traded here, or he doesn't.
06:30It doesn't matter.
06:30It'll be remembered that, oh, you guys all wanted the Connor Hellebuck idea.
06:35I've been a little bit more lukewarm on it than all you guys.
06:38I don't know if this is the best idea, but it is an idea.
06:42This is something you could attempt to do to get better.
06:46Is the price right?
06:47We don't know.
06:47We don't know what the price is.
06:48So, one thing I thought I'd lead off with today at 803-0550.
06:52If you want to talk about the Hellebuck idea, go for it.
06:54We've got the latest is that Carolina has the only real offer in.
06:58Okay, fine, fine.
06:59That's just the Stanley Cup champs.
07:01The question I want to ask is, what idea do you like?
07:05What do you want?
07:06I'm not here to tell you that you have to support this goalie trade idea.
07:10They've got other problems.
07:12But what idea do you like going back in time and keeping Alex Tuck, staying the course with a bunch
07:20of kids and too many forwards?
07:23What idea does anybody like?
07:25Because I will admit I have a, whatever, a soft spot or I'm a little bit sensitive to.
07:30Let's say that instead.
07:31I'm a little sensitive to the Sabres being inactive because it has been my number one complaint about the franchise
07:38for like 15 years.
07:40In the face of a something should be done, this goes way beyond Yarmouk.
07:45You heard me mention Jason Boshwell already once this morning.
07:47Kevin Adams.
07:48It has long been about inaction.
07:52Just wait a little longer.
07:53And ultimately that is what got them a good team into the playoffs.
07:56Kevin Adams in his sixth season after he got fired.
07:59The team became good.
08:01So just wait a little longer has seemingly always been the plan.
08:06And that has always kind of bothered me.
08:09That it feels like a team that's just always willing to wait.
08:13And right or wrong, I had felt, guys, like they got a good team.
08:18They won the division.
08:19Now's the time to strike.
08:20And instead, I think I've got the organizational identity is back.
08:26Like, no, now we had a good team.
08:28Now we wait.
08:30All right.
08:31We'll just wait.
08:32They need to treat the window like it's open.
08:34We'll have a very timid offseason.
08:36Right?
08:36We'll do very little on the free agency, this and that.
08:39Very timid.
08:40We'll lock up our guys and we'll just wait.
08:43Okay?
08:45Yeah.
08:45I think that there are times where you have to recognize what you've got in front of you
08:54and the opportunity that you have, not only, I think, as a team on the ice,
08:58but as an organization in a community.
09:01And I think that right now the Sabres are in a very fragile place where a lot of people
09:09are back in on them.
09:10But if this doesn't come through, or if something, or maybe you think it really has to be this.
09:18It might.
09:19I don't think it necessarily needs to be this, but I think it needs to be something significant
09:24and something that makes everybody here feel like they're trying to hold onto it too.
09:31And right now it feels like it could be slipping away from you.
09:35And that isn't all on the goalies right now, but it's a lot.
09:39And you've got an opportunity to address that.
09:44And so, like, it's kind of a spot where it feels like you kind of need to do it.
09:49And is that a good place to make a trade from?
09:52Like, obviously not.
09:53But it's a place that it happens.
09:57And that doesn't mean that you won't find success doing it.
10:00And it doesn't mean that it can't work.
10:02And this player that is available, Connor Hellebuck, or anybody that you want to bring in
10:08that is on that level, and I think it's hard to be on that level, that is a heart winner,
10:13that is the kind of thing that can enforce and make everybody feel like,
10:18okay, they're with us trying.
10:21And that, I think, right now matters a lot.
10:24And I don't want to fall victim to emotion in that way,
10:30because I think that that can be at times irresponsible,
10:35but right now it feels overpowering.
10:388-0-3-0-5-50.
10:41The price is going up, probably?
10:43Yeah.
10:44I mean, it's going up.
10:46All right, if you don't want to do this, you want to be a long-term contender,
10:49who do you want to be in net for them for the next however many years?
10:53That's the – I came in thinking about that today.
10:56Like, they don't have the young prospect, Levi, who was the hope of the future,
11:00where it's like, I don't want to do anything too much to block him out.
11:03Right now they are at Lukanen and lying on an expiring contract
11:08and a guy that picked up off waivers.
11:10Right.
11:11And that's the –
11:11The GM just kind of came on the air and was like, he's not very good right now.
11:14Right.
11:15They took a second round – it was Tapias Lipanen.
11:18Yeah, Lainanen.
11:19Lainanen.
11:19He got sent to the ECHL yesterday.
11:22He's not coming anytime soon.
11:23No.
11:23No.
11:25That's the thing that I came in thinking about today.
11:27Organizationally?
11:27I've thought about this goaltending problem as a this-year problem.
11:31And I think maybe I've been short-sighted about that.
11:34What are they doing next year?
11:36What are they doing the year after that with this position where you've got a guy in front of you
11:42that is, at least to me, four years of good play in him still, in Hellebuck?
11:47And where are you at if you don't make that move at the end of this season?
11:51You're at, I need to make a trade for a goalie anyways.
11:54Yeah.
11:54And then what are you doing?
11:55Who are you going after?
11:57Nobody as good as Hellebuck.
11:58I'll tell you that right now.
12:00Nobody as good as Hellebuck is going to become available this summer unless something really jarring happens.
12:06And so you've got an opportunity to address this position that I think you're in a pretty weak spot in
12:12as an organization.
12:14And that can buy you time to draft a new Levi.
12:18Or if it's at, like, Ellis is what right now?
12:23I don't know.
12:25It doesn't feel like they, like, the way Yarmou talked about him on Tuesday with us was a little bit
12:31jarring to me.
12:33And so, like, that is another part of this now that is in my head about this is a position
12:38I think you need to think about addressing on more than just this year's context.
12:44Part of your build, part of your Yarmou build would be, all right, well, I've got the defense core locked
12:50up and feel good about it because Power, Darlene, Samuelson, Crevier locked up.
12:56Zellweger locked up.
12:57I've got five guys under long-term contracts right now.
13:00And I just drafted one fourth overall.
13:02And Roddy Mertcom, my last number one pick, was a defenseman as well.
13:05So I'm stocked there.
13:07At forward, I consistently have an issue where I've got a lot of those guys.
13:12If Dylan Larkin put the Sabres on his list, would they trade four forwards for Larkin?
13:16Maybe they would.
13:17Maybe that's the kind of move that Yarmou would jump at.
13:19And we would wonder if they paid too much.
13:21But they seem like they're pretty flush at forward.
13:23They just drafted a first-round forward again last year, Morozov.
13:27And in goal, it's just kind of like, yeah, we had a three-headed monster last year.
13:32Two guys played a lot.
13:33Then we got to the playoffs, and we didn't feel comfortable trusting either one of them.
13:36They bounced back and forth, not because they alternated, but because as soon as one of them put up a
13:40performance up that we felt was substandard, we got spooked.
13:44And we had to make a change.
13:468-0-3-0-5-50.
13:47So what do you want to do about it?
13:49Anybody?
13:50Tackle it for us.
13:50We'll talk to Paul at 7 o'clock, and then Carl Jones from Channel 4 joins us at 8.
13:56We're going to talk to him about the Bills' defense and what they can do as they approach the bye
14:00week here.
14:01So plenty of Bills stuff along the way, but starting with the Sabres, who lost to the Flyers, who have
14:05now won three games in a row this year.
14:07And the Sabres sit here at 10 points, 10 games, bottom of the conference, bottom of the league in save
14:13percentage.
14:14Who's scoring?
14:16Not really many of them.
14:17It's tough.
14:18It's been a tough start.
14:20They had a tough start last year.
14:21Can they just kind of pull it out?
14:23Eh, maybe.
14:24Maybe they can.
14:25And maybe they'll be just fine.
14:26But we'll talk about it with you at 8-0-3-0-5-50.
14:28I just kind of, I'm just over here feeling sorry for myself.
14:33I just want this team to be active about things.
14:36And now, we talked yesterday how Matt Perino of the Shout podcast, you know, he covers the Bills and said,
14:43has anything been more annoying than this saga?
14:46And I absolutely feel that.
14:47To the point where if they made the trade, we would make the noise that Rob made.
14:52Ah.
14:53Finally, it's over.
14:54And then we'd have to see if he was good still and wants to, you know, he would want to
14:58play, of course.
14:59Is he good?
15:00How long does he need to get in shape?
15:01Is he in shape?
15:02Is he starting a day?
15:02Is he starting a week?
15:03And then if he loses his first three games and we're right back to panicking again, maybe.
15:07Maybe there's more intensity on it to begin with.
15:11Yeah.
15:12Excuse me.
15:12I had a sneeze.
15:13All right.
15:13Trevor downtown.
15:14Hey, Trevor.
15:14Good morning.
15:15Good morning.
15:16Thanks for taking the call, guys.
15:18Yeah.
15:18I've found myself more and more excited about this and feeling more urgency to make the Hellebuck trade.
15:24I didn't want to do it, if I'm honest.
15:26I think I'd probably be more on Jeremy's side of it.
15:28But as time's gone by, especially after last night, just watching it look like two of three goals shouldn't have
15:33happened.
15:34It's really hard to overcome that.
15:36First or second, I can't remember which, kicks out, just a giant rebound.
15:40And then the Rob reaction goal, that really was just hard to overcome for the team.
15:46You could see him kind of fold, really.
15:48So I guess the point I'm trying to make is I did not expect to see myself wanting to do
15:52this.
15:53It's kind of like trading for a running back.
15:56It's not on term in a high contract.
15:59It's like, do I really want to do this?
16:00A run game has been so bad.
16:03Do I want to do this?
16:04And I find myself saying, all right, to the running back, I guess.
16:07On the other hand, it's not like we're trading for Robin Leonard.
16:09This is like a really established, really good goalie.
16:13Owen made some great points talking about that.
16:15So I'm thinking about it and just overall finding myself more willing to say yes.
16:19And I guess the question is, am I the only one?
16:23Thanks, Trevor.
16:24You're definitely not the only one.
16:26And I like what you say.
16:27Have people that were a no leaned yes, right?
16:31Started to lean yes.
16:33Joe's been heavy on this from the start.
16:35He's not here today, which, you know, big things happen for him maybe when he's not here.
16:38So maybe today's the day.
16:40Maybe tomorrow's the day.
16:40There's this fake deadline, this invented deadline of Hellebuck when he reports how that'll be bad for the Jets.
16:48I don't know, maybe it will.
16:50The Jets are having a good season, right?
16:52Their start, they're pretty happy about.
16:54Winnipeg, for the most part, no, they're 4-3-2.
16:58And a good start, they have lost the two in a row.
17:01I have been, excuse me, just okay on this.
17:07This is a good idea because it's something and trying to get better.
17:11Yesterday and throughout the process of the Colts trading for Sauce Gardner, I defended that idea.
17:17Hey, we might be good.
17:18Let's try to win.
17:19Guy pays for it with his job.
17:20Is the organization kind of, you know, left without a quarterback and left without picks?
17:24Yeah, but they saw a moment and said, what if we tried to really be good?
17:29And the quarterback got hurt and it all fell apart and the quarterback might not be good anyway.
17:32But I always want to respect the GM that is going to go do something and is going to see
17:38a vision and pursue it.
17:40Anybody can trade down a thousand times and stock your cupboard with draft picks and wait for one of them
17:45to hit.
17:46Anybody can accept an offer when Chicago calls and says, how about the fourth overall pick for that expiring free
17:52agent?
17:52Well, okay, that sounds like a great deal.
17:55You know, here, here's a package we'll put together.
17:57You're going to give us the fourth pick.
17:58That's a great win for the Sabres.
18:01But accepting that kind of deal is one where I'm thinking, you know, you sold.
18:07Being the seller is easy.
18:09Being the buyer is when you put yourself really on the line.
18:11That's what Kevin Adams was.
18:13Kevin Adams was the seller.
18:14Always selling this guy, selling this guy, getting all these pieces.
18:17But where was the buy?
18:19Where's the three pieces for this player?
18:20And that can be tough.
18:21The Sabres are often, as we've learned, not even eligible for those buys.
18:26You can't buy Colton Pareko.
18:27He won't say yes.
18:28You can't buy Dylan Larkin.
18:31He won't say yes.
18:33Here you got a guy that will say yes.
18:34And maybe that falsely leads me to say, well, you got to do it.
18:39But I just don't know what else to do.
18:41They need this and this and this.
18:43Okay, I agree.
18:43They need those things too.
18:44But here's one thing they can get.
18:46They can actually go out and shop and get this.
18:49And I just don't know if they will.
18:51I've been meh on whether or not they will for a while.
18:56And I still kind of am there.
18:59803-0550, the number.
19:02Playoff magic.
19:03What did it do to us?
19:04It brought us back to life and now we want more of it.
19:06And I know I can't feel it in October.
19:08But it's just how many games will they start down two goals?
19:1450?
19:15Will they just be down two 50 times going?
19:18We're still at where every game they play, they out-chance a team.
19:23And they're down two nothing when they've given up nine shots.
19:27I'm starting to think it's all like an elaborate prank.
19:29Like, what if I put together a team of really good puck-possessing players that just couldn't finish?
19:36You know that, oh, and Joe, they've got that website 82-0.
19:39You can find the best analytical players you've ever seen on puck possession that just can't score.
19:44And put them all on a team.
19:45The expected goals for that team would be like, oh, 75% expected goals.
19:49But they can't score.
19:50That's the trick.
19:52It feels like that's what I'm watching every night.
19:54Like, oh, yeah, yeah, you played great.
19:56Oh, this one power play.
19:57That's their best power play of the year.
19:59Someone said out loud after they did not score.
20:02Right.
20:02You know, like, what are you going to do?
20:05No.
20:05Just wait longer.
20:08That stuff for me, the finishing, like, there is an aspect to that that, and this might just be because
20:14this goalie thing is so, like, it is omnipresent for us.
20:18Yes.
20:19But I think of it and I go, are guys gripping the stick too hard because they feel like they
20:23have to score five every night?
20:25Well, they don't win unless they do.
20:28Any game that they've won this year, every single game, if they wanted to win, they would have needed to
20:32score four.
20:35It's a tough task.
20:37That's a lot to ask, and if you're a guy on a team that doesn't believe in their goaltender, and
20:42I'm not saying that's what's happening, but I'm saying it's possible, I think that that could get to you on
20:49the offensive side of the puck where you're getting down there and you've got a wide open net and you're
20:53like, oh, I better not mess this up because we need this because my guy is not going to bail
20:58me out.
20:59And if I can bury this, then maybe we'll have a chance.
21:03And that can be a thing.
21:05I mean, I've talked to guys on my – like, I have been the guy that Lucanen is right now
21:11on my teams.
21:12I've been the guy that can't stop a beach ball, that is costing the team, and it's horrible.
21:17You feel terrible.
21:18Well, how many weeks ago was it where you said, I think he's now done here?
21:23It was like a week into the season.
21:24And they hit a home game.
21:25They're gone for another two weeks.
21:27They'll be back in November.
21:29But it was a week into the season.
21:30There was a game where it just felt like, all right, everything's turned too far.
21:34There's things – and he probably does not deserve it.
21:37No, I don't think –
21:39But he represents the spotlight of all of the angst about it.
21:43Right.
21:44He's it.
21:45But he is the symbolic thing, the holdover.
21:50And to your point about inaction, he is that embodied for this organization right now.
21:57At that position with – he specifically has been here forever.
22:01We know what it is.
22:02We know what he is.
22:04Yeah.
22:05And yet they roll him out there.
22:07And I don't know how many more times they can keep doing it.
22:11803-0550.
22:12Let's talk about it.
22:13What idea do you like?
22:14If you don't like that one, like, you know, what idea do you like?
22:17I got this tweet from Joe that I like.
22:19Not sneaky Joe or Joe Callie.
22:20But Joseph writes in, five years from now, who on this team is on this team?
22:24In 1975, I heard the best is yet to come.
22:27We've never traded away our future.
22:29And guess what?
22:29We have no past.
22:31That's kind of powerful.
22:32That's – wow.
22:33Yeah.
22:33Okay.
22:34Have they ever really gone in?
22:35When's the time they went in on something?
22:37And this is – I mean, how much would this really even be going in?
22:40I don't know.
22:41I don't know the reported prices.
22:42It's been a saga.
22:43I hate the Winnipeg Jets.
22:45Yeah.
22:45I wish they would trade him to Utah so we could turn our sights to something else.
22:49But, like, it's all just, you know, frustrating.
22:53Frustrating.
22:54Hope the team, I don't know, does something.
22:56Scores more.
22:57Plays better.
22:57They got to – I think they have to do something.
22:59Fix the penalty kill.
23:00Fix the power play.
23:01Oh, by the way, the penalty kill.
23:02I made this point yesterday.
23:04What's the cliche about penalty kill, Jer?
23:07I don't know.
23:08What?
23:08That you can't blame your goalie for the penalty kill?
23:10No.
23:10No.
23:11Who's your best penalty killer?
23:12Your goalie is your best penalty killer.
23:13How could you maybe fix the penalty kill?
23:15Well, maybe with a better goalie.
23:16Maybe with a goalie that's pretty awesome.
23:18Maybe.
23:19Instead of a guy that's a sieve right now.
23:218-0-3-0-5-50.
23:23Rob Ray with the call of a century on that third goal.
23:28If you haven't heard it, we'll play again.
23:30Sabres lose to the Flyers, 3-1.
23:32Welcome back, Jason Zucker.
23:33Nice to see him score.
23:34Nice to see him back.
23:35He's got energy.
23:36He does.
23:37He does.
23:38He's got a vibe.
23:38I think they need him.
23:40I think they needed him back.
23:41It's another reminder for all those years that every single player we could talk about
23:45was just too old.
23:46Here's Zucker who gives them youthful energy as the old guy.
23:51They are, again, like one of the youngest teams in the league.
23:54And here's an old guy helping out.
23:57Good for him.
23:578-0-3-0-5-50.
23:59The phone number if you want to join us.
24:00It is Thursday.
24:03Sabres hit the road now.
24:04Patriots and Bears tonight.
24:06Big one for Bills fans to watch.
24:07We'll keep an eye on that one.
24:08And we'll get your calls on the Sabres.
24:09What do you want to do?
24:10Jeremy and Joe here on WGR.