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The Junkies dissect Jayden Daniels’ latest podium address and debate whether his public accountability fully clears the coaching staff.
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00:00All right, let's go to Gary real quick before we move on to college football here for a moment.
00:04Let's go to Gary in Upper Marlboro.
00:06Gary, what's up, bud?
00:07You're on with the junks.
00:09Good morning, junks.
00:11I tried to get through yesterday to tell you guys that I thought Jaden's pressure was going to be a
00:15big deal for him going forward
00:17because I thought he needed to step up and take responsibility because the tape doesn't lie.
00:22I thought he did.
00:23Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:24And I think he did that.
00:27But what I'm very disappointed in is the media.
00:30OK, two questions they didn't answer.
00:32They didn't ask.
00:33Hey, did you know they had a timeout?
00:36And why didn't you try to get up earlier than you did?
00:39OK, those were two low hanging food questions that they didn't ask.
00:43And, you know, I know Chris Paul came out and your producer said that Cosby came out and said that
00:49they knew they had timeouts.
00:51But we still don't know what was in Jaden's head at the time.
00:54And I just think that was what should he have said?
00:57Should he have said?
00:58I hear you, Gary.
00:59And everybody wants to know every last detail.
01:01And I understand that.
01:02But I mean, did you want him to just say, listen, man, I had just just completely acknowledge I had
01:09a brain fart.
01:09Like I knew we had no timeouts.
01:11And for whatever reason, my brain wasn't functioning correctly.
01:13I mean, he's not wired to be quite that open, I don't think.
01:18Well, I mean, you asked a question.
01:20OK, I agree with you.
01:22The media failed a little bit.
01:24I agree with you.
01:25The media didn't ask a couple of questions that could have been asked.
01:29And I don't know why that happens.
01:31Well, because they have relationships with them and they're trying to work with each other.
01:36You know what I mean?
01:36Try not to push them too much.
01:38That may be it.
01:39But I thought he did a really good job.
01:40And I think now we can all move on.
01:42Yeah.
01:43It's probably time to move on.
01:45Yeah.
01:45I think I have closure.
01:47Now, you're never going to forget about it.
01:48It's always going to be in the back of your brain.
01:50Well, it's going to be highlighted on Monday Night Football.
01:52For sure.
01:53When you're watching the game, they're going to show that replay several times.
01:55You know what?
01:56I am going to follow through and actually mute the TV and just watch the game.
02:03The only possible answer, and I'm comfortable with it in my own brain, is that Jaden just had a brain
02:09fart.
02:09That I'm sure he could have been helped with more reminders of the time and situation constantly.
02:16But that at the end of the day, he just had a brain fart.
02:18Right.
02:18That's the only thing.
02:19And I'm comfortable with that.
02:21I think he's a pretty competent, poised guy on the whole.
02:23I think he's actually remarkably poised.
02:26So, it's just a weird thing.
02:28And it happens to most NFL players.
02:31It's happened to a lot of NFL quarterbacks.
02:33Yeah.
02:34Everyone makes mistakes.
02:35Just wish it hadn't happened to Jaden.
02:36Yeah.
02:36Wish it happened to somebody else.
02:38He also made a mistake when he said that Dan Quinn had been getting a lot of slack instead of
02:43flack.
02:43That's okay.
02:44Everybody misspeaks.
02:46I do it all the time.
02:47Yeah.
02:48We do it every single day.
02:50Well, the only thing I just didn't like about it, I mean, I'm glad to see Jaden take responsibility,
02:55is that people piled on Quinn and the coaches all week and said that the offense didn't know they had
03:00timeouts.
03:01And that just wasn't true.
03:02They all knew.
03:03They certainly knew at certain points.
03:04Jaden made a mistake in the moment.
03:05And you can forgive them and move on and everyone's over it.
03:07That's fine.
03:07But people are beating up the coaches all week saying they didn't tell the guys.
03:12No.
03:12I never thought at 55 seconds that those...
03:17Put it this way.
03:18I knew on that last drive those guys were told we don't have any timeouts.
03:21I don't know how many times they were reminded of it, but I know they were told.
03:24I know, but you just had us play the Alex Smith clip yesterday.
03:2616 times or what?
03:2716 years.
03:28Well, I agree with that.
03:28I think you should be retold.
03:31He was told.
03:32They were all told.
03:32Hold on.
03:33There's a difference between being told at the beginning of the drive and then being
03:37constantly reminded because there's so much going on.
03:40I actually agree with Alex Smith.
03:42That's not what happened.
03:43They were told before the play.
03:45He said...
03:45Before the very last play?
03:47Yes.
03:48Quinn said, we tell him before the play.
03:50We just can't talk to him until he snaps the ball.
03:52Yeah.
03:53He was told.
03:54Now look, you can blame Quinn and Blau for drawing up that dumb play.
03:58I agree with all that.
03:59All that, yeah.
03:59But they did tell the guys, you don't have timeouts.
04:02They do.
04:03That's not up for debate anymore.
04:05It was an execution problem because all he has to do is throw the ball at bounds.
04:09Throw the ball at bounds.
04:11Yep.
04:11That, again, I think needs to be reminded.
04:14He may have been.
04:15Maybe.
04:16Nobody asked him.
04:17That's the problem.
04:18I agree with that caller.
04:19The media, in that case, and we're media, and we respect those guys who are in the room,
04:25but in that particular case, they didn't ask him the right follow-ups.
04:28For whatever reason, Jaden lost his mind for eight to ten seconds.
04:32He just, yeah, I don't know, had an out-of-body experience.
04:35I can't explain it.
04:36See, Eric, I think you're assuming that he wasn't reminded enough because you're such
04:43a Jaden guy, and he doesn't usually make mental mistakes like that.
04:48Yeah, I mean, he probably typically doesn't, but maybe in that circumstance, it would have
04:52helped a lot.
04:52Constantly reminding him, hey, by the way, it's okay.
04:54So they told him he had a timeout, and he brainfarted that.
04:56Right, right.
04:56Okay, told him right before the play, 30 seconds past, he brainfarts it.
04:59Okay, I'll accept it.
05:02Probably should have also told him, hey, bud, if it's not there, you've got to get rid of
05:06it.
05:06You can't take a sack.
05:07You can't run.
05:09It's like you can't throw it to him and have him get attacked.
05:11You know what I mean?
05:11Like, those little details probably have to be pounded into his head.
05:15Yeah, but it probably was.
05:17Into every quarterback.
05:17It probably was.
05:18Okay, if you say so.
05:19The thing about timeouts.
05:20I mean, we'll never know.
05:22I'm not convinced.
05:23The thing about timeouts, and again, I don't know the terminology, but I've heard it this
05:27week.
05:28You know, sometimes you'll hear, we're in two minutes.
05:31Everybody knows we're in two-minute drill.
05:33That they were in something called Ozone.
05:35And the O stands for no timeouts.
05:37Understood.
05:38So that should have been known by everybody self-aware.
05:41I'll accept, I'll accept, here's me, 733 on October 16th.
05:45I'll accept that he knew that he had no timeouts heading to the line of scrimmage on the very
05:52last play.
05:52I'll accept it.
05:54I'm not willing to accept that they reminded him, too, that, hey, on this play, because
05:59of that, the consequence of that, make sure you're locked in here.
06:01If you take off, you've got to chuck it.
06:03You can't get tackled.
06:05I think he needed that extra reminder in that moment.
06:08I would also argue that.
06:09I would argue that.
06:10He's a quarterback.
06:11He's got to know that.
06:12That's already built in.
06:12I agree.
06:14He's got to know that.
06:15He should know that, and I think 99 times out of 100, he does it anyway.
06:19He's a smart kid.
06:20And we didn't play the audio yesterday.
06:21I think sometimes reminders help people.
06:23Okay, but I'm not going to blame the coaches for not reminding him.
06:25He should know that.
06:26It's football 101 with 10 seconds left.
06:29I do still blame him, as Drabb acknowledged, for calling a play that takes 30 seconds to
06:34call, substitute, get to the line of scrimmage.
06:37No, no, they have to be blamed for that.
06:39That's crazy.
06:39And I think Dan Quinn should be blamed for deciding to run that other play when you only
06:43have a 43-yarder.
06:44But once the ball is snapped, it's all on Jaden.
06:47Yeah.
06:47But look, they can only talk to him for 15 seconds.
06:51I told you that there's this clip, and you can go on Twitter and find it, of Matthew Stafford
06:56in a situation where he actually doesn't like Sean McVay in this particular spot, talking.
07:02He's basically telling Sean McVay, zip it.
07:04He's like, he wants to get the play call in and zip it.
07:07I'll give you the exact same circumstance.
07:08I'll be the same way.
07:09Drabb sometimes talks to us in your ear.
07:11He wants to make, hey, just mention this, or you got a commercial coming up or something.
07:16And I tell Drabb, stop talking!
07:18I go, I can't function!
07:20It can be distracting.
07:21Exactly.
07:23So it can go both ways.
07:24It can be helpful, but it can be distracting.
07:26It can be helpful for about a millisecond of talk.
07:29But I do think the caller has a point, and it's a tough spot.
07:32We're not in that room, and people don't want to ruin their relationship.
07:36But I do think somebody should have said, did you think there was another overtime period?
07:39Here's the thing.
07:40And then you can just knock it out.
07:41I've been in a situation before, not necessarily with the Redskins, but I've been in there.
07:44Tiger Woods.
07:45Tiger Woods staring at you like, go ahead, ask me a tough question.
07:48I dare you.
07:48It's hard.
07:49Yeah, yeah.
07:50And the other thing is, and I don't know this.
07:51They give you that.
07:52By the way, you see Jaden's body language.
07:54Jaden's a nice person, but he's looking at you, and he's basically, he's answering as
07:58best he can, but he's basically like, I'm done here, right?
08:00Yeah.
08:01So it's hard to do that.
08:03I'd have to ask maybe J.P. Finley or somebody else who was in the room.
08:06I don't know this.
08:06Sometimes the PR will set the ground rules and say, you can't ask this.
08:10We've had not many interviews over the course of 30 years where we'll have a guest and the
08:16PR person will say, don't ask him this.
08:18Oh yeah.
08:19And you have to make a choice.
08:21You have to make a choice.
08:21Do we want to have that guest on and not ask the question that people want to know for
08:27the benefit of having the guest on, or do we just pass on the guest?
08:31So there might've been a situation where they said, this is me speculating, hey, Jaden's
08:35going to give a statement and then he's moving on much like what happened with the LSU deal.
08:41The LSU deal, he said, uh, you know, I said what I said and you couldn't really ask him
08:46any follow-up questions.
08:48So they might've said, look, Jaden's going to make a statement.
08:52You're not going to ask him about overtime, whether there's a second overtime.
08:55You're not going to ask him about the two seconds when he's down.
08:57You're not going to ask him this, that, because I would like to know.
09:01If I was in the room and say, hey, Jaden, when you got tackled, why didn't you get up
09:06immediately?
09:06It seemed like it took two seconds before you started to get up to try and get everybody
09:10to spike the ball.
09:11You wanted to publicly humiliate himself and say, I had a brain fart, I guess.
09:16Well, he could own it.
09:17I just botched it.
09:17Because I think that's obvious what it was.
09:19He could just say for a split second, I forgot the situation and, and then, you know, Chris
09:25Paul yelled at me or Conrad yelled at me and then I got up or the sideline was yelling
09:28and then I got up and it was too late.
09:30Yeah.
09:30I just think based on how Dan Quinn reacted, how pissed off he was, that's the most pissed
09:34off we've seen him as a coach here.
09:36He's very animated.
09:37Throwing his headset down on the ground, slamming it down.
09:40I think that should tell you, he thought, I can't believe Jaden just did that.
09:44Right.
09:44Couldn't believe.
09:45Well, I think it's all, it's the totality of it.
09:47I mean, sure, you blame Jaden, but they ran one play in 55 seconds.
09:51I know.
09:52I know.
09:52So, yeah, it's preposterous.
09:53There's blame to go around.
09:55It's not just Jaden.
09:55Of course.
09:56He's to blame.
09:57Blal's to blame.
09:59All right.
09:59Let's go to Joe in Manassas.
10:01Joe, what's up?
10:03What's up, Jungs?
10:04Love the show as always.
10:05And I'm so glad that Javi said that.
10:08Like, EB, you have a hard time criticizing your guy, man.
10:11And it's just, man.
10:12I told him it's 100%.
10:13I think it's not 100%.
10:14I think he should take, he should take 100% of the blame publicly.
10:18Well, I'm just saying, as an athlete, man, you know, like, even if the coaches screw
10:22it up, like, you're there to make the decision.
10:25That's what you're, like, that's what you're hanging your hat on, man.
10:28Like, Tom Brady would have had a heart attack if he'd seen that in the press box.
10:31All right.
10:31Listen.
10:31Listen.
10:32Listen.
10:32I agree with you.
10:33He, Major League, effed it up.
10:36Major League.
10:37Yeah, no, I feel you.
10:37But I also think, Joe.
10:39The media was crushing the coaches all week, and like Drab said, man, like, man, you've
10:43got to take accountability.
10:45I agree.
10:46And when he came out in the press conference the first time, man, that was a bad look,
10:50man.
10:50I agree.
10:51Honestly.
10:52And so, that being said.
10:54And I said that, by the way.
10:55No, I feel you.
10:56EB, you're fair.
10:57I mean, you're fair, but, like, this instance.
10:59I am biased towards a kid, but I thought I was fair.
11:02I know you love the guy so much, and I do, too.
11:04But, like, you've got to praise him when he does well, and you've got to actually say,
11:09hey, man, this guy screwed up.
11:10You know what I'm saying?
11:11He definitely screwed up.
11:12We differed on our degree of how much.
11:15You want me to say, in the moment, that's 100% on him.
11:18I wasn't willing to say that.
11:20I don't think that's still.
11:20Do you still think it's mostly on the coaches?
11:22No, I'm willing to acknowledge.
11:24You said on Monday, when we had the poll, it was either mostly on Dan Quinn, mostly on
11:29David Blau, or mostly on Jaden Daniels.
11:33Mostly on Jaden, for sure.
11:34For sure.
11:34So, you've changed your tune.
11:36Yeah, I'd say so.
11:37I definitely think they're culpable.
11:39I definitely, I mean, you guys have maybe convinced me that I'm wrong, but I personally
11:45think Dan Quinn should have been screaming like a maniac at, like, 25 seconds.
11:52What are we doing here?
11:53We're not even at the line of scrimmage yet.
11:55Like, he should have been screaming.
11:57Speed up, speed up.
11:58Yeah, what's going on with this operation?
11:59Like, I definitely think that.
12:01All right, well, we just don't know what was said.
12:03And maybe he was.
12:05We don't have a Quinn.
12:05Show me the video of him freaking out.
12:07The only thing I see is him slamming the headset.
12:09We should see video of him.
12:10But have you seen video of Dan Quinn in 25 seconds?
12:12I would be willing to bet if he was, you would have seen the video.
12:16If he was ranting and raving up and down the sideline.
12:19But that's up to Fox TV.
12:20Fox TV didn't have cameras on him.
12:22You think nobody would have that video?
12:23I believe, just like they found video of Sam Cosme, just like they found video of other
12:27guys kicking pylons and throwing stuff, they would be, if Dan Quinn was running up and
12:32down like a maniac.
12:33You'd have to get a cell phone video of a fan.
12:35Because Fox, this is going to happen.
12:36Find me a video of him running up and down the sideline like a maniac with about 25 seconds
12:40going, what are we doing?
12:41Well, all we're, I'm watching on TV.
12:43Forget about Fox.
12:43Well, Fox had their video on Jaden Daniels in the huddle.
12:46Forget about Fox.
12:46We have 50,000 people there with cell phones.
12:48Okay, so we need people to send us video on the sidelines.
12:50Because my guess is it's, it's Dan just kind of stoically watching and then kind of dawning
12:56on him at the end what happened.
12:58Because it wasn't actually over until he got sacked.
13:03That's what it was.