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The Commanders are desperate to break a four-year Thursday night losing streak against the Giants. Can Jayden Daniels overcome a sluggish stretch and save their season before halftime?
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00:00Can't be overstated how big the game is.
00:02It's so disappointing that we're this early in the season.
00:06I mean, literally, we're at the statistical halfway point, right?
00:09This is the ninth game.
00:10Yeah.
00:11Out of 17, literally the heart and soul, the middle of the season,
00:14and they could be eliminated from just pondering anything possible this season
00:20if they lose tonight.
00:21So it is an absolute 100% must-win game.
00:25Yeah.
00:25We're going to go around the horn quickly, give each one key to the game,
00:28and we'll get listener keys later.
00:30I will lead off.
00:32The Commanders are dead last in the NFL on converting on third downs,
00:37converting just 31.1% of their attempts.
00:41If they have a chance to beat the Giants,
00:43they cannot have a bunch of three and outs.
00:45The offense cannot stall.
00:47And there are issues here because the offense has had fits and starts.
00:52They're missing some key pieces.
00:54Obviously, no Terry McLaurin.
00:55And maybe they get Traylon Burks back tonight to help out the receiving core.
00:59They just have to be better on third downs.
01:01They have to have some long drives in order to keep the Giants' offense off the field.
01:06Have to be better on third downs than last in the league tonight.
01:09I always talk about top.
01:12Time of possession.
01:13Time of possession.
01:14Sure.
01:14It's big.
01:15And right now, which is kind of surprising,
01:17the New York Giants are second in the league in time of possession.
01:21They're controlling the ball about 33 minutes per game.
01:25And the Washington Commanders are ranked 21st in the league.
01:29They're just under 30 minutes a game.
01:31So, you know, when you separate the two, it's by three minutes.
01:35That guy goes hand-in-hand with third-down conversions.
01:37Correct.
01:37If they have more third downs, they'd have the ball longer.
01:39Correct.
01:39And in the last three games, the Giants are about fourth or fifth in time of possession.
01:45So, they've been doing a good job controlling the ball.
01:47They're not scoring a ton of points, but they do control the ball.
01:50Well, I just think, by the way, the weather is going to be,
01:53the forecast says it's going to be a little bit dicey.
01:55At kickoff, it should be okay.
01:56It's going to be cold, colder.
01:59It's going to feel like in the mid-40s,
02:00but the rain's supposed to kick in around 9 o'clock.
02:02Okay.
02:03So, and it could be, no, it's not going to be a downpour,
02:05like down in Tampa a couple weeks ago.
02:07But, you know, the rain could play a factor.
02:10But I think time of possession is huge.
02:12You've got to keep the ball away from them and keep the defense off the field.
02:16So, look, the Commanders just played this team.
02:18And in that game, they were up by 14 points.
02:20They blew it.
02:21Jameis Winston got hot, finished the game with three touchdowns.
02:25But Jaden Daniels had arguably his best game, especially with his legs.
02:30Ran the ball nine times in that game for 103 yards, two touchdowns.
02:33We've talked all season long about this team's inability to run the football
02:38with running backs.
02:39They're up there in statistics because their quarterbacks have run.
02:42But in the last three games, Jaden really hasn't used his legs.
02:46To me, Jaden Daniels has to play better.
02:48He needs to play like an elite quarterback.
02:50He showed that as a rookie.
02:52He hasn't shown it much this season.
02:54He needs to have a big game if this team's going to win.
02:56Is it fair?
02:57I see a lot of commentary from a lot of listeners.
02:59Jaden has to be perfect for this team to win.
03:02Well, kind of.
03:03They're not a loaded team around him.
03:05That's the reality.
03:06We wish they were loaded, but they're not.
03:09Jaden has to play like an elite quarterback for this team to win.
03:13I agree with everything you guys say.
03:15I'll just add in they have to find a way to limit Malik neighbors.
03:19Last time they played him in the tie, he was targeted 20 times.
03:23Isn't that crazy?
03:23That was most by far all season.
03:25They're just totally taking advantage of us, picking on us.
03:28He had 11 catches for 121, one touchdown.
03:30He's only found the end zone twice.
03:32But historically, we know how talented he is.
03:35So somehow, statistically, we do okay against the run.
03:39And I respect Cam Scadaboo a lot.
03:41I think he's a beast.
03:42But hopefully, we can hang in there.
03:45I agree with everything you guys said.
03:47But I think in addition to that, we have to limit Malik neighbors.
03:50He cannot go off.
03:51Now, the last time, the commanders didn't have Trey Amos.
03:55And I'm not saying Trey Amos is the second coming of Deion Sanders.
03:58He's not.
03:59He's the best we got.
04:00But he is the best corner they have.
04:03And yeah, I think he's pretty good.
04:04Look, even the touchdown to Puka, Trey Amos was pretty much draped all over.
04:09Yeah, I like Trey.
04:09That's a great throw, great catch.
04:11I like him.
04:11Trey Amos was in good position.
04:12So I do think that that helps against Malik neighbors.
04:15But yeah, I mean, the other thing is, when they've won games, which is only two, they've
04:23forced turnovers.
04:24And they've capitalized over it.
04:26Well, they've been doing that for the last four or five games.
04:27To their credit, they have created turnovers every game.
04:32The offense just hasn't taken advantage of it.
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04:36I want to hear from you, commanders fans.
04:38It is a game day.
04:40Yes.
04:41Thursday night football.
04:42Watch it on Amazon.
04:44Commanders in New York to take on a Giants team that is three games up in the division.
04:49If Washington wins this game, you can make a case because they would have the tiebreaker.
04:54He'd be two back.
04:55Got to kick butt in the second half of the season.
04:56But it starts with a win tonight.
04:58What do they need to do?
04:59I say J.D.'s got to play like an absolute monster.
05:04He doesn't have to run for 100 yards, but give me over 50.
05:07That'd be nice.
05:08Like a 60 or 70-yard rushing performance.
05:10It would go a lot.
05:10I mean, we just don't see it much anymore.
05:12I'm not sure they've called for more than two or three runs for him.
05:19I'm not even sure I can think of one.
05:21Maybe one.
05:22I know there's been a busted play or two where he goes back and the handoff's not there and
05:26he takes off.
05:27I'm not sure they've called one.
05:28They've definitely gone away from it.
05:29I could be wrong.
05:30It's not been a big component of the offense.
05:32I mean, the last three games, very un-Jaden-like.
05:35He ran for 10 yards against San Francisco, 23 against Philadelphia, 16 against the Rams.
05:42I mean, that's regular quarterback numbers.
05:45I think a lot of it has to do with defense is just keeping a guy on him.
05:49He has taken off a few times and then they've been right there.
05:53He hasn't been really able to take off.
05:55Well, there was that stretch, though, where now there was some missed games in between.
05:59But for half against Dallas, he ran 69 yards.
06:03And then against the Giants, he ran for 103 yards.
06:06And you're like, okay, this looks like Jaden, 20-24.
06:08And then since he's been back, maybe he's protecting his elbow a little bit, choosing
06:15not to run sometimes.
06:16It just doesn't seem to be materializing.
06:18He has 10 runs in three games.
06:20He's also been criticized.
06:21Remember, it's a very delicate balance for him.
06:22He's been criticized for leaving the pocket too early to take off and run.
06:27I would never criticize him for doing that.
06:29I need to see more of that dynamic element.
06:32The guys that get on, they do the all, whatever, 22.
06:35They go, see, oh, he left a clean pocket, took off and ran.
06:38He missed three guys wide open.
06:39It's fine.
06:40It's a very difficult job.
06:41I can disregard their analysis.
06:43This team needs Jaden's running ability.
06:46If he's going to get first downs running the ball for six or seven yards, he should do it.
06:50Personally, I don't care what Dan Orlovsky or Kurt Warner has to say about Jaden Daniels.
06:54He needs to run to make this team function at its highest level.
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07:14What are your keys to the game?
07:17Oh, here's another key.
07:19Don't put yourself in an end-of-game situation.
07:21Have like a 10-point lead with two minutes left.
07:24A two-possession lead where you're not going to blow it and you're not going to have to
07:28deal with these end-of-game situations that they keep going.
07:32I kind of want to see it.
07:33Saying that kind of tongue-in-cheek and that's sad because that's where we are as far as our
07:39trust and the fans' trust in the coaching staff.
07:42There's little to no trust in end-of-game scenarios and frankly, the team hasn't given you
07:47a reason to trust them.
07:48I just, I kind of want to see, I know I told Adam Peters, can't we just have a two
07:52-touchdown
07:52game and just blow them out?
07:53Yeah.
07:54But I kind of want to see it to see if they've corrected it.
07:56Right.
07:56I do kind of want to see it.
07:58Well, I don't think, I'd rather just, you know what I mean?
07:59One game doesn't mean anything.
08:00They could execute perfectly in one game and still botch it the next.
08:04I know.
08:04I just want to, it would be interesting to see how they would handle something like that.
08:07You've got to see what they do over time.
08:08The other thing is, Eric talked about the neighbors' targets in that game.
08:13Now, Winston was the QB and he's different than McCarthy, so McCarthy might not target
08:19these guys as much, but Likely was targeted 13 times.
08:22So between neighbors and Likely, it was 33 targets and I believe they had 22 catches.
08:29Yeah.
08:29All right.
08:29So 22 catches from two guys.
08:32Winston had, he had blinders on to those two dudes.
08:34Like he's only throwing to them when he's in the game.
08:37So it's going to look different.
08:38So I'm sure it'll look a little bit different, but tight ends have killed Washington.
08:41I've talked about it for weeks, they've got to do a better job against Likely too.
08:45What they can't allow to happen, I don't think this is going to happen with Scadaboo
08:48coming back off of his hamstring injury.
08:50He went nuts in his last game before he got injured.
08:53He had 17 carries for 124 against the Houston Texans.
08:57And he's missed, I think, the last two games.
08:59He definitely missed the Philly game.
09:01So keep him to what he did in the last time you met, 13 carries, 59 yards, and he was
09:07basically a non-factor in the receiving game.
09:09Keep him around there.
09:10You got a good shot at winning.
09:11Can I just bring this up?
09:14J.J.
09:14McCarthy got beaten out this year by Carson Wentz.
09:18We just saw Carson Wentz.
09:21If they can't beat J.J.
09:22McCarthy tonight, I don't care if it's in New York, I don't care about the weather conditions.
09:26If they can't beat J.J.
09:28McCarthy, Dan Quinn should not be the head coach tomorrow.
09:32I tend to agree, but J.J.
09:34McCarthy did have one of the, probably his best game as a pro against, you know,
09:40the Commanders.
09:41It was last season, right?
09:43Was it last season?
09:44Yes.
09:44He's had a couple moments in the league, but he got beaten out by Carson Wentz.
09:49I understand.
09:50I get it.
09:50Think about that.
09:51Well, I think they were also against him.
09:53They were just ready to move on.
09:55They were just like, they were over him.
09:56They really wanted him to work.
09:58They drafted him.
09:59Of course.
09:59Until they didn't.
10:00But then they realized.
10:00Until they didn't.
10:01They realized that that former GM was a bit of a buffoon who drafted him, who lobbied
10:06for him.
10:06They fired him.
10:07And then, you know, when that guy gets fired, you don't want the remnants of what he's
10:12drafted, his mistakes hanging around.
10:14So they got whatever they could for him, and they sent him packing.
10:17All right.
10:18Let's pass on these calls.
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10:21What are your keys to the game?
10:24You cannot overstate how big the game is.
10:28As a fan, I'm extremely disappointed that we're in this spot.
10:32It's very depressing.
10:34Got to fight your way out of it.
10:34It's very depressing.
10:36Remember after the 49ers loss, we talked about the upcoming schedule, and we said, all right,
10:43doesn't look great, but in the next three, Giants, I'm sorry, Eagles, Rams, Giants, got
10:51to win those.
10:51You got to win two of the three.
10:53Preferably the division games.
10:55All right.
10:55They got the Eagle game.
10:56They got a chance to do that.
10:57We didn't think they'd beat the Rams.
10:58They had opportunities, and we talked about that for a week.
11:00But now, if they beat the Giants, all right, they got two of the three before they play
11:05the Bengals next Monday.
11:07Right.
11:07So you're kind of where you want to be, even though the record still sucks.
11:12Well, you could still do something.
11:16And I wouldn't bet on them doing it, but it's still in front of them if they can figure
11:20it out.
11:21Do you know the last time they won a Thursday night game?
11:23No.
11:24Oh, is it something terrible?
11:25The last time they won a Thursday night game.
11:27I mean, it wasn't the last time they played.
11:29Yeah.
11:29I mean, you wouldn't have brought it up if it was last season or two seasons ago.
11:33I'm going to say five years ago.
11:352022.
11:36Okay.
11:36So four years ago.
11:37Who was it?
11:39Don't know.
11:39I'm just looking at some ESPN nuggets.
11:41Yeah.
11:42That's one that jumped out at me.
11:45So they haven't won a Thursday night game since 2022?
11:48Correct.
11:49Let's go to Chuck.
11:50Chuck, what's up, man?
11:51You're all with the junkies.
11:52Hey, Chuck.
11:53Hey, guys.
11:54Great show.
11:55Thanks.
11:55Thank you, sir.
11:57The key to winning, we have to be able to run the ball.
12:01Well, if we can't run and it's major pass, we're going to be in trouble.
12:10Mm-hmm.
12:10Yeah.
12:11So Rashad White, when given the opportunity in the last two games, has 17 carries.
12:15He hasn't had a lot.
12:16But 17 carries for 83 yards.
12:18You could live with that.
12:19They maybe need to feed him the ball a little more.
12:22Absolutely.
12:23I have a question for you guys.
12:48Mm-hmm.
12:50You can blame everybody.
12:51I just think that the first-year coordinator is having struggles, and he and Jaden aren't
12:55clicking on all cylinders, and we're seeing the results of it.
12:59Commanders beat the Chicago Bears in Chicago on October 13th, which was a Thursday in 2022.
13:04Final score, 12-7, quarterback for the Washington Commanders, Carson Wentz.