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Heat Win-Total Showdown: Tobin vs. Brittney | Tobin and Brittney get into a heated debate over their preseason record predictions for the Heat this year.
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00:00The Miami Heat wrapping up training camp today.
00:03Eric Spolstra and Bam Adebayo looking like they're doing the press conference together for today.
00:11So that's kind of cool.
00:13Just get on out there and finish things up.
00:16And then head to Quebec to get ready for this Raptors game.
00:21And see what kind of matchups we get to see between the Raptors who kicked the Heat's ass a lot
00:28last year.
00:28I mean, they beat him all four times and really took it to him.
00:32There are two teams that I need to see that he beat this year.
00:35I need to see him beat the Raptors.
00:36I need to see him beat the Magic because that stuff really drove me nuts last year.
00:40Can't beat him.
00:41Can't beat him.
00:43So couldn't beat him.
00:45Got absolutely throttled.
00:47Now, we'll say Kalel, as much as I love the warehouse, he had a lot of struggles against the Raptors.
00:53I mean, he was not very good against them.
00:54But it's going to be an interesting debate this year as far as duos in the Eastern Conference.
01:00And you got Bam and Giannis.
01:01And then people are going to be talking Scotty Barnes and Kawhi Leonard and what they bring to the table.
01:07So we'll get that going tomorrow.
01:09You'll be able to hear that on AM 560 as the Canes will be on the FM dial for you
01:14on a loaded, loaded weekend here on WQAM.
01:19So keep that in mind.
01:21Anthony Chang tweets out.
01:23He says, Eric Spolstra, at the end of the four-day camp, quote, I think we made some positive steps.
01:30Perfect.
01:31That's all I need to hear, Spoh.
01:33Sweet nothings.
01:34We'll see if Eric Spolstra gives us a little hint as to what we're going to get with the lineups.
01:42I feel like we're going to get the regular lineups.
01:44I feel like we're going to get a look at, you know, Bam, Giannis, Davion, Clay, Wiggins.
01:52I feel like that's what we're going to see if he goes to the regular lineups.
01:55But it is the preseason.
01:56You know, maybe he's feeling a little frisky and he wants to throw somebody else out there.
02:00Maybe he wants to throw the old cover boy of King Magazine, which, by the way, is what it is.
02:05It's King Magazine.
02:06Oh, it's King?
02:06Okay.
02:07It is King.
02:07I have cross-checked it, but they have not released the interview on their website yet.
02:11I guess they like to hold it back there in Sweden for the old print media.
02:16So we'll have to wait to see what Pella had to say about looking like a model.
02:20We need a translator as well.
02:21Well, yeah.
02:22Yeah.
02:23But I'll Google translate the hell out of something.
02:26I'm sure you – I am sure that you will, yes.
02:30I don't – it sounds a little judgy.
02:33I don't know.
02:33It sounds like you're judging me for translating a Swedish interview.
02:37It's a little odd.
02:39Why?
02:41It's a lot of effort.
02:42It's all –
02:43I mean, all I got to do is just copy-paste it.
02:46I mean, it's not that big a deal.
02:47I just want to hear what Pella said in his native tongue.
02:49No, I'm just – I'm sure you do.
02:51It's all –
02:52Big Pella person you are.
02:55Bam out of IO.
02:57He said – this is from Brady Hawk.
02:58The thing he learned most playing next to Giannis was, I'll get an open shot for sure.
03:04Yeah, I would imagine you are.
03:06It's going to be a lot easier with Giannis out there.
03:08Makes life easier for everybody.
03:11Exciting to see.
03:12Cannot wait to see it.
03:14Go out there.
03:15Give me a couple quarters of work against the Raptors.
03:18Man, I cannot wait.
03:21It's going to be –
03:22It's going to be interesting.
03:23Yep.
03:23I have no idea what to expect, honestly.
03:27I'm thinking like 30-11.
03:31You know, I'm thinking somewhere around – I don't know.
03:34I was thinking about this yesterday.
03:35Somebody asked me if I had a prediction on the Heat.
03:37Mm-hmm.
03:37I didn't want to give it yet because, like, I don't know.
03:41It seems a little premature.
03:42I'd like to see how the preseason plays out.
03:45You never know what happens in the preseason.
03:46I don't want to disrespect the preseason.
03:50So, I don't know.
03:51I really just want to be in this spot where we have all options on the table, Brittany.
03:58I don't want to just be like, you know, this person that's just like, oh, what could it possibly be?
04:05So, you know, we'll see.
04:08We'll see what it ends up being.
04:09But what could their record be?
04:11I don't know.
04:11I was thinking like 74 wins.
04:12I was thinking like 74 wins sounds about right, you know?
04:16Do you think they break the top four in the East?
04:20Yeah.
04:21I mean, I think, you know, I was thinking like, you know, one seed, you know?
04:26And I was thinking one seed, 74 wins.
04:29And I don't know.
04:30Who knows?
04:30We'll see.
04:31We'll see what happens.
04:32One seed?
04:33Yeah.
04:34It's very ambitious.
04:36It is ambitious.
04:37It is ambitious.
04:37But what are we, if not for ambition, we would just be hamsters on this world.
04:43You know what I mean?
04:44Round and round on a wheel.
04:48That's a way to put it.
04:49It is a way to put it.
04:51What do you mean?
04:51Like, have you ever seen a hamster?
04:53Their life is pointless.
04:54Look at them.
04:55They're stupid.
04:55They're in their little terrarium and they roll around in their wheel.
04:58Going nowhere.
05:00They're going nowhere.
05:01They're a dumb rodent.
05:02So all I'm saying is, if we don't have ambition and ambitious goals, we become hamsters.
05:08And I'm not here for the heat to be hamsters.
05:10All right?
05:12I mean, I'm not here for it either.
05:14I just think that the one seed is, that's a tall feat.
05:20Right.
05:21For what the East is this year.
05:24Mm-hmm.
05:25DeSizzle says, 74 wins.
05:26So Tobin thinks this is better than the 73-9 Warriors.
05:30Is that what their record was?
05:32Was their record 73-9?
05:33Yes.
05:34Interesting.
05:35They didn't have Giannis, though.
05:40But they had the best shooter that the NBA's ever seen.
05:45It was cute.
05:46It was a cute gimmick for a little bit.
05:47They didn't even win the championship that year.
05:49No, they didn't.
05:50They didn't even win the championship that year.
05:51So, you know, all right.
05:53I mean, you know, if you guys think it's a little bit, it's 72 wins then.
05:56If everybody just wants to touch the Warriors, then all right, 72 wins.
06:0072 and 10.
06:01Yeah.
06:02Is that a problem?
06:03Too much?
06:03I think it's too much, yeah.
06:07All right.
06:08I mean, we'll have to see.
06:11Check ball.
06:11I mean, on October 21st, we'll get to find out.
06:14Can we not?
06:16We're going to find out.
06:17Yeah, we will.
06:19But I don't know.
06:20It's very ambitious.
06:21Interesting.
06:22I don't even think that you really believe that with that smirk on your face.
06:25I do believe it.
06:26I do.
06:27Why would I not believe it?
06:27Why would I say things I don't believe?
06:33You say things you don't believe all the time, let's be honest.
06:35Like what, dude?
06:39You do.
06:40You believe this?
06:41What do you think?
06:42I mean, Jennifer, you think 74 wins is a bit ambitious?
06:48You're lucky Leroy's not here.
06:53I genuinely have no words for you.
06:5574 wins is crazy, Toby.
06:57I mean, you think we're not going to blow out Clemson.
06:58So, like, how can I trust you?
06:59Say that we weren't going to blow out Clemson.
07:01You don't want to say that we're going to blow out Clemson.
07:04So, like, I don't know where you're at today.
07:05It's very strange.
07:06Apparently, we don't want to say a lot of things today.
07:09You know, I don't understand what you did today.
07:11You came out here.
07:12You reprimanded me for being sad about Alexander Barkov.
07:16You're like, stop being sad.
07:17I didn't say to stop being sad.
07:19I just said that you're being dramatic.
07:21You basically said we don't need Alexander Barkov.
07:23That same-sies without him.
07:25And then you came out here and you said, we're not going to blow out Clemson.
07:29Whoa, whoa, don't you dare.
07:30You basically said that.
07:31You basically said that.
07:31Don't you dare.
07:32Then you said we're not blowing out Clemson.
07:35You said that we weren't going to blow out Clemson.
07:37You're lying right now.
07:38I love how he's just putting words in our mouth.
07:40He's putting words in my mouth.
07:41You said we weren't going to cover, and then your prediction strangely was for them to cover,
07:45which I didn't understand.
07:46And now...
07:47I'm not good at math.
07:47I never claimed to be good at math.
07:50When I did this prediction last night, I said that the Heat would be 74-18, which is 92 games.
07:55But I was drunk.
07:56So now I think they'll be 74-8.
08:02I was three whiskeys in, and people asked me all this questions.
08:05It was unreal.
08:05I couldn't even count how many numbers I had.
08:09That is too many games.
08:11But the point is, you don't even want to put a prediction out there.
08:14So I'm not going to take your judgment.
08:17You won't even put a prediction out there.
08:20Give me something.
08:21You never asked me to.
08:22Oh, okay.
08:23How many games do you think they're going to win?
08:29I think that I'll do more losses.
08:31I think you're going to be 20-22 losses.
08:3860-22?
08:39Yeah.
08:40All right.
08:4061 is a good season.
08:41I mean, I think it's a little underselling.
08:43No, I think they're a middle.
08:45I think they're four or five in the East.
08:49You think they're going to win 60 games, and they're going to be in the middle of the East?
08:54The East is going to be good, Tobin.
08:56They're not going to.
08:57Dude, let me tell you something.
08:58I think there'll be three.
08:59Who's so good?
09:00Who are you so worried about?
09:02I'd love to know.
09:03Am I so worried about?
09:04Yeah, who are you so worried about?
09:06I don't know.
09:07Maybe the Philadelphia 76ers.
09:10Okay, dude.
09:10You know what?
09:11LeBron James.
09:11Oh, LeBron James.
09:14Joel Embiid.
09:15100 years old.
09:16Jalen Brown.
09:17Oh, Jalen Brown.
09:19Jalen Brown's own team.
09:20That's what I'm a little worried about.
09:22Jalen Brown, who's owned team, traded him for Paul George.
09:26You're worried about that when you have Giannis and Pella Larson?
09:30Jeez Louise.
09:31I'm not worried about Boston.
09:33I said I'm worried.
09:34Okay, yeah.
09:34No, but my point was, you're worried about Jalen Brown.
09:37He got ousted by Boston.
09:39They traded him for Paul George.
09:42You're so changing.
09:43Ridiculous.
09:44Why would you worry about that?
09:46You're insane.
09:47He's basically the same as Tyler Hero.
09:49He got traded.
09:51Don't you dare.
09:52Salary filler.
09:53Get him out of here.
09:54The Boston Celtics wanted Paul George.
09:56And you're worried about them and old man and Joel Embiid?
10:00That's who you're worried about?
10:02This man was the MVP of his team.
10:04He almost took them to the promised land without Jason Tatum.
10:08Are we joking?
10:09He gave him a 3-1 lead to the most underwhelming superstar of our time,
10:14Joel Embiid.
10:15What's so great about him?
10:16Now he's paired up with him.
10:19Great.
10:19I'm sure that's going to be, it's going to be like two hamsters
10:22who can't even figure out how to get on their wheel.
10:24Good job.
10:25That's who you're worried about?
10:26You think they're going to finish behind the Sixers?
10:30Yeah, I do.
10:31I'm just being on.
10:32I don't even understand you.
10:34And the Raptors have Kawhi Leonard now.
10:36Oh, yeah.
10:37Great.
10:38Mr. Ponzi scheme himself.
10:40Kawhi Leonard, because we know he's been so reliable to get through a season.
10:45Let me ask you something, dude.
10:46Name a third Raptor.
10:49Exactly.
10:50You can't.
10:51Jakob Pertl.
10:52That's what I'm scared of.
10:53He actually has a sneaky good matchup against Bam.
10:55But, I mean, honestly, his contract is an albatross.
10:58And I like their coach, Darko Reykjavich.
11:00But that's only because he has a cool accent.
11:04That's only because he has a cool accent.
11:07You believe this?
11:08Seeding doesn't necessarily matter.
11:13Okay.
11:14Which we've learned that, obviously.
11:17Okay.
11:17Because Detroit was a fantastic regular season team, and then they didn't do well in the playoffs.
11:24You still have to worry about Detroit being, again, a good regular season team.
11:29How about the Knicks who just came off of a championship?
11:32Fat cats.
11:35Listen, Cat is not fat, actually.
11:37He lost a lot of weight in the offseason.
11:40Nah.
11:40He's worried about his extension.
11:42He ain't worried about it.
11:42Trust me.
11:43They are going to be a laissez-faire through the season.
11:47They got a lucky break in the championship run.
11:50Good for them.
11:51They are the Carolina Hurricanes of the NBA.
11:54Enough.
11:55Good for them.
11:56Can't take it away from them.
11:57They can have it.
11:58But let's be real about it.
11:59You're not going to give any props to the fact that the East is a little bit stacked this year.
12:04The reason it's stacked is because Giannis is over here and he's on the Heat.
12:07He's been on the East.
12:09I don't know.
12:09Not really, dude.
12:10He's been on the Bucs.
12:11Like, the Bucs have been a joke.
12:12They had Miles Turner and Kyle Kuzma.
12:14He was basically on a G League team.
12:19Giannis is here and he's like, knock, knock.
12:20Who's there?
12:21Me.
12:21Daddy's home.
12:26The hottest chicken in the game?
12:27I can't wait for you to come back and you tell him that the Heat are going to have 74
12:32wins.
12:33I don't see anybody stopping him.
12:35I really don't.
12:35I think the effects of your whiskey last night have really just come into today as well.
12:40Who's stopping him?
12:42I'm not sure about it.
12:44The only team I fear is the Magic because I haven't seen them beat them in two years.
12:48But everybody else, they can kick rocks.
12:50That's the only team that you fear?
12:51Okay.
12:51I have to see it.
12:52Have to see it.
12:53Have to see it.
12:54Have to see it.
12:55You got to prove it to me on the court.
12:56Everybody else.
12:58Come on.
13:00And I cannot trust this enough.
13:02Enough.
13:04Really mature of you.
13:05Real mature.
13:06Real mature of you.
13:08Real mature of you.
13:09I've been nothing but mature today.
13:11I've been the only sound, sane person on this show today.
13:15Yeah.
13:15So sound.
13:16You have the Panthers being better without Barkov and you have the Heat being a four seed.
13:23Ridiculous.
13:23At three, four.
13:26I always listen to the Panthers.
13:27Does it matter what the regular season?
13:28As long as we make the playoffs, does it matter what the record is in the regular season?
13:31Not really.
13:32No.
13:33This isn't your Jimmy Butler Heat.
13:35It's going to be a different type of Heat.
13:39And please, I do not hate Miami sports.
13:41Like, I hate when people say this.
13:44I just, I'm a real, I'm realistic.
13:47God forbid that someone has some reason.
13:49It doesn't sound like you believe in Giannis.
13:50Like, you didn't tell him to that to his face.
13:52What do you, you wanted me to tell him, hey, Giannis, I really believe in you.
13:55Because you think, you think he cares what I have to say to him?
13:57He doesn't care.
13:59I think Giannis does care.
14:00I think Giannis does care.
14:01And you, you know, when he was with us, like, we were all in one seed mode.
14:04And now you're like, eh, four seed.
14:08I've never been on one seed mode.
14:12That's tough.
14:13We have a lot to figure out.
14:15We have a lot to figure out.
14:16What do we have to figure out?
14:17What do we have to figure out?
14:19How to work this team.
14:21It's new.
14:22It's going to take some time.
14:23Even Spoh told you it's going to take some time for them to figure it out.
14:26I don't listen to Spoh.
14:27Oh, no, you don't listen to Spoh.
14:29I don't listen to Spoh.
14:30Time's crazy.
14:31Spoh says his Spoh-isms, you know?
14:33You know what?
14:33The only thing I needed to hear from Spoh was not even words.
14:37It was his giant smile when Leroy called him an evil genius like Belichick.
14:40That told me, game on.
14:43The words don't matter.
14:44The body language does.
14:47All right?
14:48You need to treat it like hieroglyphics.
14:49You need to go there.
14:50You need to read and interpretate.
14:53I did not put the heat in the play-in.
14:56Like, come on.
14:57I never said that.
14:58Pretty close, though.
14:58Pretty close.
14:59Now, America is national, you know, media is putting them there.
15:03I'm not saying that.
15:04I think they're going to make the playoffs perfectly fine.
15:07They're going to be a top seed in the East.
15:10Not the top seed, but a top seed in the East.
15:13I'm just saying they have a lot of things to figure out is all I'm saying.
15:17It's going to take some time.
15:18You're right.
15:19We have things to figure out.
15:20Like, where is the parade route this year?
15:22Should we start it down in Lemonwood or should we start it all the way down in Little Havana
15:27and then make it all the way to the stadium?
15:29We have a lot to figure out this year, Heat in Five.
15:31We got to take a break, huh?
15:32You know, we got to take a break.
15:34We'll play a little Udentemy.
15:35I'm sorry she did this, Jennifer.
15:36I know that you, as a heat lifer, are upset with Brittany.
15:39I can tell on your face.
15:40So disappointed.
15:43What can we do, you know?
15:44It is what it is, you know?
15:45Wow.
15:46Wow.