00:00marcos is uh back in the saddle today he was very upset during the break leroy
00:04uh do you want to into leroy why you're upset living why i'm sure leroy's gonna somehow find
00:12a way to disprove this but as we all know mavericks got the cold envelope this year
00:21which they only had 1.8 chance of getting do you know who was previously slotted in that number 11
00:30position before winning two meaningless games at the end of the season meaningless i mean it was
00:36meaningful for davion mitchell i mean yeah great yes i'm aware it was the heat spot frog boy so with
00:42that being said i think we have to add this to the list of things that eric spolscher did wrong this
00:50year and i'm personally taking all the blame that we no longer have a chance at cooper flag
00:57i don't even think we're gonna get our first pick correct that goes to golden state no our pick
01:02went to okc we have the 20th pick from golden state oh okay so but if we would have given that pick up
01:09we would have been out to drive for the next two picks because they would have been unprotected
01:13next year now you may say who cares we got cooper flag yeah maybe we would have had cooper flag
01:19cooper flag maybe without giving up anybody we're talking about a player that could potentially
01:23change your team at a cheap rate because he's a rookie so we can go before he is cheap the super
01:29max maxi super max whatever we have an opportunity to change that but no we're gonna win those games
01:35can i can i can i just say this there is nothing in this world that pisses me off than a loser
01:52talking about losing what yeah nothing pisses you off more than a loser wanting to lose more
02:00yeah that's what pisses you off the most that mentality interesting like you've been competing
02:07your whole life dude if you've been competing your whole life you get on that floor and you want to
02:14win i don't care what the circumstances are i don't care what the situation is for people to just assume
02:20that all these guys are just gonna go out there and say hey it would be better if we got a higher
02:28draft pick let's just go lose you can't tell me we wouldn't have sat in here the next day and called
02:34them all bums yeah i don't know no i want no part of this you can watch guys competing their whole life
02:44okay let's just go lose if if if the sixers end up getting and what did i tell you about the sixers
02:53what do you think they will never win because they have a culture of losing and that organization
02:59what about the mavericks the maverick the mavericks did it the year beforehand they tanked the end of
03:03the season didn't make the playoffs got derrick lively made the finals okay it happened it does it
03:09it has benefited teams before everyone does it except for the miami i just think this part i don't
03:15think i think if they were going to do it they should have done it after the 10 game losing streak
03:20for sure because the six game win streak it was a boldly win streak the only legitimate wins were
03:26beating jimmy and beating the celtics everybody else it was a bunch of hornets and wizards it meant
03:31nothing really like i don't i don't understand uh make up your mind you want your team to win when
03:36you go watch them or you want them to lose no i'm just saying like there's when you look at a
03:41six game win streak leroy if you have a win streak built on hornets and wizards it's not a win streak
03:45like okay okay like that that absolutely drives me crazy that you're now you're okay with we were
03:54okay with the dolphins losing right people were okay with all you would have did was people were
03:59dolphins losing the only people who weren't okay with the dolphins losing was espn who the entire year
04:05was saying they were a danger to players and yet somehow the the bangles got to sneak in there
04:09with a worse record and was like yeah which by the way by the way it did nothing for brian flores
04:17if you know if anything apparently it did worse for him for not taking enough because he claimed that
04:22he was getting offered bonuses for losing all right yeah warriors tanked a few years to get
04:29wiseman how'd that work out okay well they picked the wrong guy and they don't like their picks anyway
04:34yeah that's just bad drafting i mean if they could they could have worked he was the second best
04:38player in that draft no he was projected to be the second best player in the draft he stunk
04:44yeah yeah but but that's what i'm saying you don't know that when you draft him you should have known
04:49it okay didn't us didn't anthony edwards just come out and say when they had the second pick i think that
04:56was was that i think this was the draft he said that if we had the first pick he told ant-man we
05:02wouldn't take you yeah that that did come out maybe they're just bad at drafting
05:08i mean so much in basketball is slotted very rarely do you have too much of a reach in basketball
05:16football's different spurs tank for wendy the spurs did tank for wendy that's true and then they got the
05:22two rookie of the years back to back and now they have another pick what's going on here what's going on
05:27here all right all right so so you guys you guys would have been fine with that yes okay i mean
05:34look i will say it literally literally turns my stomach i i bsu not but it is the worst trait
05:45but you know the heat but you know the heat don't feel that way like pat riley just came out and
05:50admitted we've only tanked twice in our life we did it wrong when we got dwayne wade because they
05:53won that last game which flipped them from four to five which ended up getting them d-weight instead
05:58of bosh so do you look at the heat and you know how they they feel you don't think that some
06:06organizations like the spurs are owed the benefit of the doubt it's not like they're the hornets
06:11or they're the sixers you don't get a reset season so if the heat did do that nobody would look down on
06:18the heat and say you know what even like they admitted when when they when they flipped it around
06:21went 30 and 11 great story never made the playoffs right and they ended up paying deon waiters and
06:27james johnson okay eventually they got jimmy butler but also they could have gone that route he admitted
06:35they were maybe thinking about tanking that year like i think if any organization is owed it from the
06:40fans of being like oh yeah i could understand even if they did it this year like i don't know you're
06:44making fans so understanding all of a sudden we're pretty understanding if you're trying to get
06:49cooper flag come on i'd be like what number 10 all you in here is we suck we're so bad we
06:55needs to go uh this guy needs to go uh this player's a bum this is that
07:01but they're saying that anyway i've literally it's literally bought them not it didn't buy them
07:08anything this year and then they get and by the way they deserve the criticism for this year they
07:11stopped right but rocks hey by the way i noticed that too why is james johnson still in the league
07:17i think just enforcement because he's dangerous i think i think i think he's just there to scowl at
07:25the other bench if i got you you fire james johnson i'm not gonna do it i get it i'm just saying
07:32i'm just saying what do you want to go as a player
07:36that it turns my stomach to think that they're players organizations that say it's okay to lose
07:49i don't mean listen you could be bad right but that's the thing is the heat were bad like they
07:58weren't they weren't good this year they weren't a good team they had a cataclysmic thing happen with
08:04their star now the heat would have gone from the losing streak and would have just kept like said
08:09hey bam go get a back thing he goes what yeah go get your hip checked on yeah here's what i would
08:15have said though i feel like your back hurt and and here's when i would have accepted it and i said this
08:21all year you're five games under 500 just put kalal in there and let him take his lumps
08:28put pella in there let him take his lumps pella got hurt you see what i'm saying you're not you're
08:35not full-blown tanker but you'll do it for like a straight be like you know what let's take the gas
08:40off the pedal boys cruise control i just i would have played the young guys because i would have been
08:48better off next year even though i wasn't as good this year here's a different situation
08:53here's the thing though marcos look i get it and i got attacked by the kids on twitter
08:58wow which is what i'm referring to them now as the stupid kids on twitter and they say take more
09:03copium bruh copium yeah that's that's a drug where you cope okay right okay and yes i am coping you
09:11want to know why i need to cope yeah but the only thing i'll tell myself is the heat weren't getting
09:18that number one pick because i think i look i i hate to say this i genuinely think it's fixed
09:23for sure i genuinely think it's fixed i think that it's either fixed on two cases one luka dodges
09:29getting traded to the lakers for that is patently absurd yep it's absurd it's absurd that that's what
09:36he got traded for okay it is i'm sorry everybody thought that it was fake nobody can believe that
09:41stupidity this poor guy had to go with security his entire next few months because of how everybody's
09:47like how do you not get it's not even that you got that you didn't even get more from the lakers
09:52and you should have gotten more it's so silly and all of a sudden 1.8 percent you get the number one
10:01pick because it's either two things one the entire lakers luka thing was a ruse because they're the
10:07flagship franchise and they want to make sure they got a post lebron plan okay and so they're like hey
10:13we got you or they saw how pissed people were about it because this guy was so dumb and they're
10:20like we got to calm people down in dallas so yeah i just don't believe that he would have gotten that
10:25pick they just wouldn't have it was going to dallas it was a frozen ping pong ball it was going that way
10:31now now smithan makes a point sitting vets to play young guys is literally what tanking is
10:38not in this instance because smithan i've been saying it all year and my reasons behind it was
10:45if you know this year isn't where you want to be i don't want to go into next year playing the same
10:54game of hoping or wondering whether the young guys can play and this team didn't have a whole bunch
11:02of vets anyway that were playing well so it's kind of a situation where let me see what my young guys
11:10can do now a couple of them got hurt and that kind of maybe put the nicks on that but i would have been
11:16playing where every night i would have been coaching him up letting him take his lumps and then in the
11:24offseason showing him all that and saying this is where we need to get better but that's a different
11:30situation what you're doing you're not you're you're splitting hairs like no i'm not you are it is
11:36it's essentially wait who would you who would you have played if you obviously you would play your
11:40young guys but if you're doing that wink because bam hey bam go rest your hip for the rest of the
11:46season no i'm not saying instead of bam oh well i am telling you that's how it goes yeah like
11:52because you're acting like kalal were didn't play at the end of the season he played basically through
11:57the middle of the season leroy okay he did yeah so some nights he got three minutes not not the most
12:04most nights he played significant minutes he did so you're saying he's going to play 38 minutes a night
12:12instead of 28 minutes a night like that's what you're saying and bam go rest your hip tyler go
12:19rest no i wouldn't i wouldn't do that though okay i'm just saying i would have played the young guys
12:26more to to like if you're if you're not here i don't want to go into next year with the same questions
12:36i have this year about the young guys because now you're almost just like reset and doing it all over
12:41again i'd say you have more questions about your vets now than you do of anybody than even more of
12:45the young you always did like but that's but you don't understand that's everybody's point on it and
12:50i'm not a guy who like again i think there was a there was a there was a through line here of where
12:56it could have been for the heat and it was after losing 10 straight and it should have been like
13:00hey do we pull the plug on this thing and only the heat being as stupid as they were this year
13:05responded with a 10 game losing streak with a 16 a six game win streak though it was built on crappy
13:10teams and so you were in this no man's land of like are we going to be bad or are we going to be
13:16mediocre playing because there was a time where they could have like fell below the raptors and all those
13:21teams which didn't even end up getting the ping pong balls but you would have understood it because
13:26that team has like they get the benefit of the doubt they've you know what the team and the
13:30franchise is about now it's almost like you're you're clinging to what you feel like is winning
13:36basketball when really all they really built leroy this year they were the worst fourth quarter team
13:40in the league by by by every metric yeah all you all you did was reinforce how bad you are at winning
13:45and how bad and how how you continue to have losing habits so i really i don't think you're holding on to
13:52anything that's really beneficial like you you're you're holding on to this thing of honor that's not
13:55really there for the um it's not about honor it's about competitiveness like it's about they're not
14:04competitive they lose in the fourth quarter every game they didn't compete all right this i can't ever
14:12get you guys to understand where i'm coming from simply because we come from two different places
14:21um and and that's fine but i've played on three and 13 teams one it was the worst like the worst
14:35but i never went on the field who'd you get in the draft that year the next year
14:41eric turner how good was he he was good he was good he helped you the next year uh yeah yeah he
14:52went to um he went to a pro bowl you feel like you guys built losing habits the last year or you
14:58feel like you're able to bounce back no we didn't no see that's just it we were bad well we didn't get
15:04a chance to build losing he has because they fired everybody highest traffic defensive back in nfl history
15:11eric turner 2008 hall of fame ucla
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