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02:00He could be freed from that curse which many, and you will be surprised, still believe in at Easter.
02:05So let's begin the journey. Let's go.
02:08Let's begin the exploration. Let's go to Aku Aku Island.
02:13Caves remain the last frontier of Easter Island.
02:17For centuries, the Rapa Nui people took refuge from invaders in them.
02:21And in them they also hid their most precious treasures.
02:27Objects that held the true story of this town.
02:36It is known that on a dark night, far back in the hands of time, one race annihilated the other.
02:41The last bodies were devoured by the fierce short-eared ones, deep inside the caves.
02:47Brutal cannibalism.
02:49Which produced not only the physical extermination of artisans, builders, and wise men,
02:53but it also erased any possibility of knowing the past of this place, lost in the middle of the Pacific.
03:02And with the disappearance of the long ears, the tradition of reading the rongo rongo tablets came to an end.
03:08The 70 wooden flakes, supposedly brought by the mythical King Jotumatua,
03:14where, in a language never translated, the true secrets of this world were told.
03:18Some say that the first explorers saw them upon their arrival, hanging from the necks of the moai.
03:27When Rojeven discovered the island in 1722, nobody knew how to read it anymore.
03:33Not even the oldest people could interpret those engravings.
03:36They were a testament to the time before the collapse and the barbarity.
03:41Perhaps that's why they limited themselves to copying them mechanically.
03:44as if sensing that the magical power of mana resided within them.
03:48That force, with which the ancient sages transported the gigantic moai.
03:57The first Christian missionaries condemned the possession of sacred tablets and burned many of them.
04:03Others, rotted by the damp, disappeared forever inside the caverns.
04:10Today, only a few are scattered across a handful of museums around the world.
04:14always kept under lock and key, as if darkness were the eternal condemnation for these signs.
04:26To touch them with our own hands, we must travel 5,000 kilometers into the interior of the American continent.
04:33The meeting point with the authentic and enigmatic rongo rongo,
04:36It is the Natural History Museum of Santiago, Chile.
04:42We're warned that they've been in a vault for over a century, but we want to see them.
04:47After passing through several restricted areas, in a laboratory on the top floor,
04:51Finally, we can touch the strange objects that the mythical first king of Easter Island may have once carried.
04:58Professor Miguel Ángel Azócar is the custodian of these treasures,
05:02which have very rarely been able to be filmed.
05:06There are many people who have worked and continue to work on deciphering it,
05:10Even with the use of computers, trying to piece it together, decipher it, but it's quite difficult.
05:17An attempt has been made to find a rongo rongo code, let's say, using computer science,
05:20But there have been no results either.
05:22Of course, the thing is, if you think about it, what are signs?
05:27Is it a phonetic sign or a mnemonic device?
05:34Is it a word? Is it an idea?
05:37So, if we can't figure out what each sign means, it's very difficult to see it.
05:42We also don't know what role this staff could have played, if it was something more important than the tablets?
05:48You don't know either, but if a very special piece appears, and I don't know if there are more walking sticks.
05:52Appearing, it must be a very special piece because it is the only one.
05:55It is the only known walking stick in the world with rongo rongo writing.
06:01Thirty years ago, several companies were offering more than a million dollars for each of these pieces that are
06:06seeing.
06:07But they will never be sold.
06:08Everyone is aware that within them lies the secret of the founding of the strangest place in the world.
06:14Perhaps in them, and in the staff of command, there are formulas, chants, litanies,
06:19Let them tell us about wondrous things, things that defy all knowledge.
06:24Perhaps within them, who knows, lies the secret to lifting moai weighing over 20 tons.
06:39Still pondering the signs of the strange language, we returned to Tepito Tejenua, the navel of the world,
06:46just as the ancients also said.
06:48And on Easter night, a hula awaits us, a typical and ancestral dance.
06:52The inhabitants of this island, known as Apollins, are thus trying to recover their folklore and their past.
06:58But in truth, nobody can read it.
07:01Nobody knows how to read it.
07:03They, men and women of the 21st century, are absolutely certain of one thing,
07:07It is in the active presence of the spirits that continue to manifest themselves on the island.
07:12In that respect, nothing has changed since the beginning.
07:14With an ancient echo, they still call it, in the same way,
07:19Aku Aku.
07:31The engraved stones lead us to a sacred place.
07:35It is the ceremonial village of Orongo,
07:37where the birdman competition was held until the 19th century,
07:41in which the warriors of each clan risked their lives in order to reach these islets.
07:47The entire territory, it seems, remains closely watched by the Aku Aku.
07:52The town, specifically, that had a connection with the birdman, was a village, a town.
07:59After it became a place of worship, a place of ceremony,
08:04There was a belief, and obviously I believe it too,
08:09that the Aku Aku protected this place.
08:12And why?
08:12Because it was a place where fertility and divinity were discussed,
08:18And where there was a competition that brought the chief of the tribe, the supreme being, closer to Makemake,
08:26There had to be a guardianship of both spirits and people.
08:31Therefore, both men and spirits,
08:36They guarded this place for a year, until the next ceremony continued.
08:42This was usually in early spring.
08:52Aku Aku is a spirit, a malevolent or benign entity that watches over the caves and the roads.
08:57The aguacos can look like this.
09:01Specter that warns in the middle of the night,
09:03and that it can also guard sacred stones.
09:06Aku Aku can destroy you,
09:08Or it can reveal things to you that are beyond the reach of men.
09:12All scientists believe in them too,
09:15far from the classrooms,
09:17They have penetrated the deep reality of this island.
09:24There are different types of Aku Aku.
09:26Not all Aku Aku are the same,
09:28Not all spirits are the same.
09:31There are some Aku Aku,
09:32which are nothing more than guardian spirits of the places where people lived.
09:38Tradition says that when they arrived on the island,
09:40Suddenly they started walking around the island,
09:42And they began to discover that the island was full of spirits.
09:45Because all the places you discover in life,
09:49They always have some kind of spirit.
09:50And then, suddenly, there was a rock that had a human representation on it,
09:55And then they gave that rock a name,
09:56And that was a spirit.
09:58But in general, the Aku Aku are the ancestors
10:02that protect the different territories.
10:04And if you start to analyze the number of Aku Aku that exist at Easter,
10:08in the territories they occupied,
10:10You will find that there are three types of Aku Aku.
10:12Some are aerial, others are terrestrial, and others are marine.
10:17And each one is in charge of protecting a natural resource from the people who lived in that place.
10:24Before the arrival of Christianity, we had many gods.
10:29And our gods had gelarchies.
10:32From the supreme god, the god of fertility, the god of the sea,
10:37like Tangaroa, which exists in other parts of the Pacific,
10:40We have more domestic gods,
10:43which some writers have wanted to call Aku Aku,
10:46And we sometimes call him Baru Anoma,
10:49and that we believe exist on all the islands.
10:52And they are gods much more accessible to the relationship with man today.
10:59Our ancestors, our grandparents,
11:01When they arrive at a place like a cave,
11:03like a beach, like a campsite,
11:06They generally tend to open a kind of protocol,
11:09which we call Heako, Kitabaharua,
11:12or they make contact with spirits in some way.
11:15It wasn't supposed to be a natural thing.
11:17Sickness and death were things that were produced by magic,
11:21by sorcerers,
11:24or because you had broken some law in some territory,
11:30You had broken some taboo.
11:34So what they did was grab the sick person,
11:39They locked her in the house, called a priest,
11:41And then the priest would arrive and begin trying to find out
11:45who had caused the disease.
11:47The first thing I asked,
11:50What taboo have you broken?
11:52What have you done to make yourself sick?
11:56Then the guy started confessing everything he had done,
12:00which could have been like going to steal a banana from the neighbor,
12:04I don't know, things like that.
12:06And well, if I confessed all this,
12:09Then the sorcerer, the priest, would arrive.
12:12and cast a net, a mesh over this sick man,
12:17and then he would grab the net,
12:18And with that, supposedly, all the evil spirits were taken away.
12:21that were inside the body,
12:23and threw them into the fire and burned them.
12:28The people of Easter Island have always been protective of their secrets.
12:32For a time they unearthed treasures from the family caves
12:36and they exchanged those objects for goods that came from the other side of the world.
12:41Of course there was looting, that's true, it was real.
12:45Many paintings and other valuable objects were found
12:49for people, for archaeologists,
12:51which were unfortunately looted by Europeans
12:57and some also by some unscrupulous people
13:00who exchanged these species for clothing.
13:04Perhaps their desire to have clothing,
13:08to have food,
13:09This type of archaeology made them change.
13:13for something new and innovative.
13:17However, there are quite a few who claim
13:20that all those who revealed secrets of Easter Island
13:23They were cursed by the Aku Aku.
13:25There is a long list of those affected,
13:27from Captain Cook
13:29even authors from the 1970s of the last century.
13:32They all made the big mistake
13:35descend into the caverns
13:36and unearth what should have remained protected.
13:40The latest dead
13:41They were the ones who gave these objects that you are seeing.
13:44to the Norwegian explorer Thor Heyer.
13:47For all those working today at Easter
13:50One thing is certain.
13:51We need to be careful,
13:53great care,
13:54with what one discovers
13:55and with what one shows to the stranger.
13:58Well, it seems that the Aku Aku
14:00they have the power
14:01to drive someone crazy.
14:05When I arrived in the year 1960,
14:08I was with a friend of mine
14:09who was accompanying me
14:11and he showed me some skulls
14:12that were painted red.
14:15And she showed them to me.
14:16and we kept walking
14:18and we arrived at the campsite
14:19about two kilometers from that place.
14:22And in the night it grew restless,
14:23but in a terrible way.
14:25And suddenly he ran away,
14:27speaking in Rapa Nui,
14:27that I didn't know
14:28What was I saying?
14:29And he disappeared.
14:31And there was a stone wall
14:34about one meter fifty.
14:36He jumped over the wall
14:37and disappeared into the night.
14:39He appeared around 20 minutes in.
14:40He got inside the sack
14:41and she wasn't even agitated
14:42breathing.
14:44He went in,
14:45He continued sleeping.
14:46Then I woke him up
14:46And I said to him,
14:48Hey, what happened?
14:49And he said to me,
14:50Do you remember those skulls?
14:51Did I show you red ones?
14:53And I said, yes.
14:54He told her,
14:55They came to bother me.
14:56They came to tell me
14:56why had I shown you,
14:58why I had exposed
15:00to your presence
15:00because they were sacred.
15:03And I said to him,
15:04hey,
15:04If they continue to bother me,
15:05I'm going to destroy you.
15:07And I said to him,
15:08but,
15:08Was I dreaming that?
15:10He told her,
15:11no, no, no,
15:12Yes, dreaming, dreaming.
15:13I told him,
15:13No,
15:13that I wasn't dreaming it.
15:14You jumped,
15:15I saw you,
15:16You ran,
15:17You got lost in the night.
15:18He told her,
15:19No,
15:20world,
15:20I have never moved
15:21to this bed.
15:21The next day
15:23We went down into the cave
15:24and the skulls
15:25were converted
15:26powdered
15:28because he crushed them
15:29with a stone
15:30and destroyed them.
15:32And he doesn't remember
15:33of what has been done.
15:36We have heard
15:37many stories
15:38how are you
15:38and with that particular emotion
15:40We left our camp,
15:43installed in the magical
15:43Hotel Explora,
15:45accompanied by
15:45Yoyo Pakomio,
15:46the Rapa Nui,
15:47that will lead us
15:48through some of the caves
15:49still banned today
15:51to the stranger.
15:52Perhaps in them
15:53Let's find some trace
15:54from that past
15:55of shadows and curses.
16:00Upon arrival
16:01to the first cave
16:02we met
16:03with a pleasant surprise.
16:05NASA members
16:06They are investigating
16:07in situ
16:07in those depths.
16:09It's a project
16:10secret
16:10And the first thing they do
16:12is to warn us
16:13about the danger
16:14of the place.
16:16At the moment
16:16that whole cave
16:17It's dangerous.
16:19So
16:20need
16:24to be so well cared for
16:26in the caves.
16:27These caves
16:30They're okay.
16:33The rock
16:34It is not fragile,
16:36It's very hard.
16:38But
16:39these rocks
16:42They have water
16:44and mud
16:46also.
16:48So
16:49need
16:51so careful.
16:53The most extraordinary
16:54is meeting here,
16:56in the entrails
16:57from the farthest place
16:58of the world,
16:59with a team
16:59who works
17:00for NASA,
17:01trying to observe
17:02biology
17:02and the conditions
17:03life
17:04so that they are useful
17:05study
17:05in the future
17:06explorations
17:07to Mars.
17:08Definitely,
17:09this island
17:10It has something magical about it
17:11unreal
17:11and we are
17:12checking
17:13by ourselves.
17:15On Mars
17:15is possible
17:17What a life!
17:19if life
17:20It exists on Mars,
17:22be in
17:23the subway.
17:25It is not possible
17:26for life
17:27the super easy way
17:28from Mars.
17:34Evening falls
17:34and we descend
17:36little by little
17:36into the depths
17:38of which undoubtedly
17:39was
17:39an old
17:40family cave.
17:47They hide here
17:49many secrets
17:49and many mysteries
17:50because there are
17:51a whole chronicle
17:52long,
17:52ancestral
17:53of family life.
17:55Of treasures
17:56archaeological
17:57There are those who speak
17:58even disputes
17:59of wars
18:00of cannibalism
18:01maybe never
18:02let's know
18:02nor discover
18:03the whole truth.
18:04What I'm telling you
18:05from the heart
18:05is being here
18:06It's a real dream.
18:07We are
18:08in the entrails
18:09in the heart
18:10perhaps from the island
18:11more enigmatic
18:12of the world
18:13and we want
18:14notice
18:15with open eyes
18:16all that
18:17Mother Earth
18:17can offer us.
18:19All types
18:19of surprises
18:20maybe they'll come out
18:21now at our own pace.
18:22From the time
18:23of the famous
18:24Thor Heyerdahl
18:25it is spoken
18:25caves
18:26family
18:27caverns
18:28where the Easter Islanders
18:29they were making
18:30incredible objects
18:32prodigious
18:32dedicated objects
18:34to the gods
18:36to the deities
18:37or to the aquaku
18:39who are always
18:40present in this place
18:41But there's more.
18:42in some caves
18:43similar to this
18:44many centuries ago
18:46some maidens
18:47almost almost
18:49graffiti
18:49or tinted
18:50in white
18:50they became
18:52in legend
18:53in real legend
18:54the one about the white virgins
18:56the maidens
18:57Neru
18:57that they were expecting
18:58their moment
18:59for a long time
19:01hidden here
19:02in this world
19:03of chiaroscuro
19:04of darkness
19:05of shadows
19:06and also of lights
19:08I don't know
19:08that we will meet
19:09on this journey
19:10for the next Easter
19:11But I invite you
19:12to join us
19:17They say that in the cave
19:18from Tepeju
19:19They hid
19:20for many years
19:21Rapa Nui
19:22out of fear
19:22to the ships
19:23invaders of Peru
19:24they reached as far as here
19:25to kidnap them
19:27and convert them
19:28in slaves
19:28in the first zone
19:29we found remains
19:30that demonstrate
19:31that existence
19:32old population
19:34Pacomio
19:34illuminates a sector
19:35and teaches us
19:37mollusks
19:37and shells
19:38who had been
19:39extracted
19:39per diner
19:40from about two centuries ago
19:42perhaps we are seeing
19:43with our hands
19:44the arrival time
19:45of the first Europeans
19:47we also found
19:48toquis
19:49flint stones
19:50or basalt
19:50that served as knives
19:52and primitive tools
19:54That indicated to us
19:55that all this area
19:57It could have been
19:58a primitive pantry
20:01elapsed
20:02the first 500 meters
20:03into darkness
20:04we found
20:05other remains
20:06that confirm
20:07our suspicion
20:07after following
20:09through the main gallery
20:10we cross paths
20:11a large root
20:12that in the end
20:12ends up indicating
20:14another small sector
20:15stone
20:15carved stone
20:17where even
20:18we found
20:18an old torch
20:20Easter Islander
20:20braided
20:22how they did
20:23the ancients
20:23nobody knows
20:24how long
20:26take it there
20:26and a little further in
20:28We are waiting
20:29another vestige
20:30perhaps definitive
20:31long life
20:32and ancient
20:33in the heart
20:33from the family cave
20:34here it was used
20:36this place
20:37for cooking
20:38It's obvious
20:39charcoal
20:40which can be seen here
20:41and this ash
20:42that remained
20:44from the burning
20:45firewood
20:45now then
20:47we were
20:47scrutinizing
20:48and we have discovered
20:49hedgehog tips
20:50like the one you see there
20:53and those that are seen
20:54there
20:55with these tips
20:56hedgehog
20:57they could scrutinize
20:59inside
21:00inside
21:01of the seashells
21:02this way
21:04they were taking out
21:06the food
21:06this way
21:09we also found
21:10here
21:12other
21:13we look with a little
21:14to see the brightness
21:15It's another shell
21:17which is also eaten
21:20He brings everything from within.
21:22and also
21:22after it remains
21:24the shell
21:24without food
21:25It is used for decoration
21:27the suits
21:28and clothing
21:28that people used
21:30It shines as if it were
21:31I don't know
21:31a glass
21:32or something
21:32a precious stone
21:34in the narrowest area
21:35and just an instant
21:37before a member
21:37of the team
21:38of fourth millennium
21:39have a cumbersome
21:40and dangerous accident
21:41we found an area
21:42that could serve
21:43of sanctuary
21:44an area
21:46transformed
21:46definitely
21:46by hand
21:48of man
21:49after the trips
21:50from Rojeven
21:51or of the Spaniards
21:51to the ancient island
21:52from San Carlos
21:54it gives the impression
21:54that the Easter Islanders
21:55disappear
21:56other navigators
21:57and pirates
21:58they reach these shores
21:59and there are no people
22:00What was the mystery?
22:01They were inside caves
22:02how are you
22:03We've gone one kilometer
22:04travel
22:04and we find perhaps
22:05evidence
22:06of all this
22:07that we are counting
22:08the archaeologists
22:09anthropologists
22:09They're still searching
22:11processes
22:12artificial labor
22:13of the stone
22:13This is a low wall
22:14two rows
22:15with flakes
22:16of rock
22:17very heavy
22:18that have been placed
22:19right here
22:20perhaps to establish
22:21a kind of commune
22:22large kitchen
22:23or sacred space
22:25and ritual
22:25But tests like this
22:26They show us
22:27that the Easter Islanders
22:28simply
22:29they vanished
22:30of the earth
22:31perhaps fearing
22:32to the invaders
22:33and they lived here
22:34in the calls
22:35family caves
22:36here too
22:37His secrets remained.
22:38and its treasures
22:43We went outside
22:45and we breathe fresh air
22:46in the impressive
22:47Ranocao volcano
22:48in the middle of everything
22:50this loneliness
22:50not yet corrupted
22:51through globalization
22:52and the industry
22:53they appear to us
22:54the strange engravings
22:55of the god Makemake
22:56or the birdman
22:58always remembering us
22:59that we stepped on
23:00your territory
23:01And it is right here
23:02in this place
23:04awesome
23:05where it comes from
23:05to memory
23:06a romantic
23:07and tragic history
23:08starring
23:09a woman
23:10very brave
23:10a story
23:11that was forgotten
23:12and a story
23:14that we want them to know
23:16I find myself
23:17In a place
23:18very special
23:18from Easter Island
23:19We are in Orongo
23:20in 1914
23:21fairly
23:23to the coasts
23:24that I have behind me
23:24A woman arrived
23:26very special
23:27It was the first
23:28historian
23:29and archaeologist
23:30from Cambridge
23:30he barely arrived
23:31with a small boat
23:33and accompanied
23:33of few men
23:34for studying
23:35the mysteries
23:36from Easter Island
23:37among them
23:38the petroglyphs
23:39that I have
23:40behind me
23:41They show
23:42some strange beings
23:44some gods
23:45for everyone
23:46unknown
23:47She studied
23:48one by one
23:49these stones
23:50these petroglyphs
23:52until he discovered
23:53in part
23:53some of its mysteries
23:55but also
23:55she was immersed
23:56in a world
23:57of spirits
23:58good and bad
23:59that they would play
24:00a primary role
24:01both in his life
24:02as in his death
24:07Katherine arrived
24:08even the caves
24:08haunted
24:09through the enigma
24:10Easter
24:10I wanted to find out
24:11the mystery
24:12of the ancients
24:13builders
24:13of the Moai
24:14those
24:15of those who already
24:16nothing remained
24:17he was interviewed
24:18for months
24:19with some natives
24:20and little by little
24:21It was winning
24:22your trust
24:23fully integrated
24:24in life
24:25of the island
24:25recorded songs
24:26tattoos
24:27and popular rites
24:29that were
24:29about to
24:30of the disappearance
24:31It was an impressive
24:33anthropological work
24:34about folklore
24:35from this place
24:37but also
24:38he received
24:39one night
24:40objects and treasures
24:41on the part
24:42of some Rapa Nui
24:43and apparently
24:44That's where it all began
24:45their problems
24:52It was key in his life
24:54the witch Angata
24:55sinister character
24:56capable of mastering
24:57the Aku Aku
24:58and before which
24:59ended up feeling
25:00a reverential fear
25:05a horror
25:06that she wasn't going anymore
25:08never to abandon
25:11several episodes
25:13hallucinatory
25:13with recurring nightmares
25:15and the presence
25:16of strange voices
25:16They began to torment her
25:18after their stay
25:20in a family cave
25:23upon return
25:24from one of his trips
25:25was admitted
25:26the force
25:26by his own family
25:27inside the center
25:29London psychiatric hospital
25:31He continued talking there.
25:32of a witch
25:33Angata call
25:33of his real presence
25:37as if somehow
25:38continued accompanying her
25:39and also
25:41he was referring
25:42to the echoes
25:42of the Moai
25:43that they wanted
25:44contact her
25:44He died insane
25:46pronouncing words
25:48in a language
25:48that nobody understood
25:51at Easter
25:52at the same time
25:54the person
25:55who gave him his treasure
25:55He lost his mind.
25:57and until the end
25:58of his days
25:58wandered
25:59like an automaton
26:00without memory
26:01through the streets
26:02of Angaroa
26:03the only
26:04population
26:05of the island
26:08the story
26:09by Katherine Rowlich
26:10It's just one more
26:11among whom
26:12have tried
26:13dive
26:14in the strangers
26:15Easter worlds
26:16some worlds
26:17that are on the reverse
26:18of the postcards
26:19typical
26:19many
26:20have succumbed
26:21to the charms
26:22and also
26:23have sunk
26:23in the shadows
26:24who knows
26:26if guided
26:27by the hands
26:28of the jealous
26:29Aku Aku
26:35one of the last
26:36Rowlich quotes
26:37It's the best summary
26:38for everything that
26:39we feel
26:40on this trip
26:41unforgettable
26:42the epitaph
26:43of a woman
26:44very brave
26:44that puts an end
26:45to this magical
26:47adventure
26:47on the island
26:49of the end of the world
26:56the shadows
26:57of the disappeared
26:58builders
26:59of the Moai
27:00They still own
27:02of this land
27:03no one can
27:04free
27:05of its influence
27:06They are more active
27:08and real
27:09that the population
27:10living
27:20Máximo Puelma
27:22researcher
27:22that he carried out
27:23a book
27:23like so many others
27:24about the island
27:25Easter
27:25appeared dead
27:27according to what he says
27:28Spanish
27:29Antonio Rivera
27:29in his book
27:30Operation Rapanui
27:31within his department
27:32in Santiago
27:34no one had forced
27:35of the lock
27:36was
27:37with a broken skull
27:38lying down
27:39next to the carpet
27:41and next to
27:41a Moai Kaba Kaba
27:44this figure
27:45which represents
27:45perfectly
27:46the spirits
27:46Easter
27:47they had directly
27:48broken head
27:49with the
27:49But it's only one.
27:51of the examples
27:52the aforementioned
27:53Antonio Rivera
27:53and other researchers
27:54They speak, for example
27:55from Captain Cook
27:56that after passing
27:57for Easter
27:58is killed
27:59in Hawaii
27:59It brought him bad luck
28:01the island
28:01from Le Perus
28:03which gives name
28:04to one of the bays
28:05from the island itself
28:05Easter
28:06also executed
28:07in the same way
28:08some time later
28:09of passing through the island
28:10we have seen
28:11what happened to you
28:11Catherine Rowlich
28:12the anthropologist
28:13from Cambridge
28:14that arrives there
28:15with his boat
28:15to whom, by the way
28:16He called her
28:17Manna
28:17in homage
28:18to the magic force
28:19that supposedly
28:20domina
28:21this entire island
28:22mysterious
28:22But there's much more.
28:23Alfred Metrault
28:24one of the French
28:26that there were many
28:27who investigated
28:28the matter
28:28of the island
28:29and then
28:30he committed suicide
28:31prey of a
28:32great despair
28:33at Easter
28:34people are being talked about
28:35which is like
28:35lobotomized
28:36for having given
28:37treasures
28:38concrete treasures
28:39to foreigners
28:40for having unearthed
28:41enigmas
28:41that they had to continue
28:43underground
28:43It is talked about
28:44Elias Pacarati
28:45people are being talked about
28:46that gave
28:46these objects
28:47that we're going to see
28:48now in a moment
28:49on the screen
28:49which are the objects
28:52filmed
28:52by the expedition
28:53by Thor Heyerdahl
28:54This is a real gem.
28:55the great Thor Heyerdahl
28:57the Norwegian explorer
28:57the first one that really
28:58excavate at Easter
28:59get there
29:00and inside a cave
29:02familiar
29:02This is found
29:04always controversial
29:05whether they prepared it
29:06or if he was really there
29:08The truth is that people
29:09that these heads gave
29:10stone
29:11these strange signs
29:12engravings
29:13these animals
29:14of appearance
29:15almost almost
29:16proto-historical
29:17animals
29:18unidentified
29:19some
29:19other strangers
29:20Well
29:20They all died
29:21and the story is told
29:22of the family
29:23Viru Viru
29:2440 members dead
29:25at Easter
29:26always
29:27for having given objects
29:28which are a legacy
29:29very personal
29:30It's time to talk about her witchcraft
29:32of the legend
29:32of the myth
29:33and of the truth
29:33And we're going to do it
29:34with the best guests
29:36they accompany us
29:37are incorporated
29:37Enrique de Vicente
29:38director of Year Zero
29:38Enrique, good evening.
29:39good night
29:40Iker
29:40José Luis Cardero
29:41anthropologist
29:42good friend of this team
29:44Welcome José Luis
29:45thank you so much
29:46Welcome!
29:46and Juan G. Vallejo
29:48excellent
29:49He'll tell us later
29:49because he is the protagonist
29:51of a story
29:51really
29:52which could have cost us dearly
29:53a dangerous accident
29:55We're going to tell you about it.
29:55and also protection
29:57It has to be said like this.
29:57of the mysterious
29:59to Cuaco
29:59colleague Juan G.
30:00welcome
30:00good night
30:01hello good evening
30:01Iker
30:02Okay, let's talk.
30:03Carmen about all that
30:03and much more
30:04The truth is that Easter
30:05It has that charm
30:06a spell that I think
30:08Well, to our guests
30:09He has no doubt whatsoever
30:10Right, Enrique?
30:11I have no doubt whatsoever
30:12I haven't had the good fortune
30:15as you know
30:16of having been at Easter
30:17But it's something.
30:18It's a topic that I'm passionate about.
30:20ever since he was a boy
30:21and everything I've read
30:23everything I've said
30:24with a very diverse group of people
30:26who has been there
30:26explorers, anthropologists
30:28that they have thoroughly studied
30:29no longer the Easter traditions
30:31but all traditions
30:33of all Polynesia
30:35Easter is linked to this tradition.
30:37which are very similar
30:38to those of Melanesia
30:39which are the nearest islands
30:41Let's say Australia
30:43and New Zealand
30:44There are a number of common beliefs
30:47a series of beliefs
30:49which are based on
30:50mana and tapu
30:52or taboo
30:52where our word comes from
30:54taboo
30:54the forbidden
30:56and so?
30:57makes all of life
30:59on those islands
31:00revolve around that
31:01and anyone
31:02who goes there
31:02like someone going to Haiti
31:04he feels affected
31:06by those forces
31:07very interesting
31:08if he was there
31:09and he is an anthropologist
31:10he must have felt
31:10very identified
31:11with Edwards
31:12and other colleagues
31:13that we have interviewed
31:14the highest authorities
31:16archaeological-anthropological
31:18Easter
31:18have been featured in this report
31:20José Luis Cardero
31:21who was at Easter
31:22And I don't know.
31:23What an impression!
31:25as a researcher
31:26as an anthropologist
31:26you took it from there
31:27Perhaps you experienced an Easter
31:28years ago
31:29even less polluted
31:30that now
31:31Yes, many years ago
31:32many years
31:33much less polluted
31:34that now
31:35much more mysterious
31:36which now possibly
31:37I was much younger too.
31:38and more inexperienced
31:40But the truth is
31:41the thing is
31:42It has always caught my attention
31:43that at Easter
31:44overlap
31:45in what is the concept
31:47which would be the concept
31:47from Easter Island
31:48overlap like
31:49three magic triangles
31:50first of all
31:51Easter form
31:52It is a vertex
31:53of a large triangle
31:54that begins
31:56on Easter Island itself
31:58goes up to
31:59the Hawaiian Islands
32:00and goes down to New Zealand
32:01It's a triangle
32:03where it is included
32:04practically
32:04everything that is
32:05Oceania
32:05which is a territory
32:08magical
32:08per se
32:09because it's a seat
32:10of some legends
32:11truly curious
32:13about the origins
32:14of humanity
32:14and about some
32:16mysterious creatures
32:16which indeed
32:19They are talked about
32:20on all those islands
32:21No?
32:22How far
32:23the belief in Akuaku
32:25continues?
32:26for example
32:26we saw in the report
32:27to Sergio Rapu
32:28Sergio Rapu
32:29He's not just anyone.
32:29He is the archaeologist
32:30Easter date
32:31And to give you an idea
32:32and get an idea
32:33just a few months ago
32:35or a while ago
32:35He was with Queen Sofia
32:36a great lover
32:38of archaeology
32:38teaching him
32:39and he is the one who
32:40prick and cut
32:41Let's put it this way
32:41in each excavation
32:43and I had doubts
32:44about these objects
32:44but he knows that inside
32:45of the caves
32:46sleep
32:47first
32:47the famous tablets
32:49rongo rongo
32:49that must still remain
32:50tablets with their strange signs
32:52that remain a
32:55writing in some form
32:56hieroglyphic
32:56and undeciphered
32:57and also
32:58other mysterious objects
33:00like these ones we're seeing here
33:01that have power
33:02They believe in the Akuaku
33:04and they speak of the Akuaku
33:05as something commonplace
33:06and authentic
33:06And he was able to experience that.
33:07Juanje Vallejo
33:08because he had an experience
33:10which really was
33:11traumatic for everyone
33:12that now remains inside
33:14of the adventure
33:14of a trip
33:15This is also a journey
33:16Right, Juanje?
33:16But I'd like to tell you
33:17a bit
33:19What happened to you?
33:19How did you experience it?
33:20because it was an experience
33:21too intense for you
33:22and how he interpreted it
33:23the Easter Island people
33:24and the scientists
33:25who work there
33:26We are in Tepeju
33:28We were filming everything.
33:29I was recording you
33:31you Marcos Macarro
33:32were you doing
33:32an introduction
33:33in that cave we saw
33:34indeed
33:35more than a kilometer long
33:36So we're almost there.
33:37at the end of the cave
33:39and just now practically
33:40in the end
33:40Well, there was
33:41a small pile of stones
33:42of round stones
33:43And well, a little circle at the top
33:45about 3 and a half meters
33:47I'd say almost 4
33:49tall
33:50sorry
33:50me a moment before
33:51had taken a photograph
33:53that I told José Alberto
33:54the camera assistant
33:55sound technician
33:56I say look, Jose
33:57of the best photos
33:58what I've done with my life
33:58and suddenly
33:59well
34:00I'm talking to the guide
34:01while you were recording
34:02the introduction
34:03and he tells me
34:03Hey, do you know how to get out of there?
34:04and I said
34:04No problem
34:05know
34:06I've spent a lot of time in the mountains
34:07I've made jungle
34:08many stories
34:09I climb this little hill
34:12that there was rock
34:14through this hole
34:14I place one foot
34:15on a rocky outcrop
34:17I climb through the hole
34:19I go outside
34:20I wait a couple of minutes
34:21I see that I kept recording
34:23And then I want to go down
34:24through the hole
34:25But it had rained
34:26Everything was very slippery
34:28My right hand is slipping.
34:29Well then, I'm leaving.
34:31The thing is, I fall
34:32between 3.5 and 4 meters
34:34but I fall in a way
34:35completely lateral
34:37the only person who can
34:39tell it really well
34:40It's Carmen
34:40who saw
34:42the big slap
34:43Never in my life
34:44I fell like this
34:45I've done contact sports
34:4614 years in my life
34:47He could have killed me
34:48perfectly
34:48I was lucky
34:49in quotation marks
34:50that I bumped into the little hill
34:52of rock
34:52which made
34:53The impact slowed down a little
34:54that you fell flat
34:563 and a half meters
34:57with rocks at the bottom
34:59Yeah
34:59I mean I fell
35:00I saw with the rocks on my back
35:02I was that lucky
35:03I got scratches on myself.
35:03And then I landed right on this side.
35:05of the hip
35:06supporting the elbow
35:07And then, well...
35:09then
35:10I had it 5 or 6 days later
35:11upon returning to Spain
35:12I take the blood
35:13They had to give me a heparin injection
35:14so that it would go away
35:16the large blood clot
35:17that he had on his back
35:19and I was in bed for 2 or 3 days
35:21because I had
35:22Our guide told us so.
35:23if he manages to see even a centimeter
35:24the body of Juan G
35:25passed through a hole
35:26full of stones
35:27the only one that was nearby
35:28At that time it was Carmen
35:29a simple touch with that stone
35:31would have made our colleague
35:33and the reporter wasn't here
35:34good
35:34That happens to us
35:35And now comes part two.
35:36which is how he interprets it
35:37the Easter Island people
35:38and the Easter Island researchers
35:40that
35:40and everyone
35:42He told you about the aquacui
35:43we saw that it was true
35:44that is on his mind
35:46Well, I spoke
35:47I stayed overnight
35:48with people from the island
35:50and then
35:51Well, they gave me
35:52the explanation
35:53that the townspeople give him
35:54They told me
35:55hey
35:56Tepeju is a cave
35:58sacred
35:59where she has lived
35:59many people
36:00People were hiding there
36:02You weren't there
36:03with respect
36:04playing
36:04and then the aquacui
36:05You were punished
36:06That's what they told me
36:08And then I said
36:09man, I think that
36:11Well, I was being respectful.
36:12You know, and all that.
36:13if it is true that
36:14that it was a childhood
36:15for my part
36:15telling the guide
36:16Well
36:17with extensive experience
36:18I go up
36:19and so on
36:20and well
36:20He could have killed me
36:21I'm telling it here
36:22I could have stayed
36:22in a wheelchair
36:23and then another part
36:25who was the anthropologist
36:26Eduard
36:26that is not Easter Islander
36:27But he is an anthropologist.
36:29which he knows perfectly
36:29Polynesia
36:30And he took it differently
36:32No?
36:32He told me
36:32You haven't broken your ribs
36:34You haven't even broken your back
36:35And that means
36:37that the aquaculture
36:38They have forgiven you
36:38I mean
36:39They have forgiven you
36:39the aquacu
36:42think that they have given you
36:42an opportunity
36:43to do things
36:44I was also talking
36:45with him with tattoos
36:47what do they symbolize
36:48for the Rapa Nui people
36:49for the Polynesian people
36:49he told me
36:50that they saw the world
36:51the world of the dead
36:52and the world of spirits
36:54and the world of the living
36:55and until you get a tattoo
36:57You can't be human.
36:58You cannot identify yourself
37:00of the rest
37:00because your skin is bare
37:01and well
37:02He even gave me a tattoo
37:03which is this one I have
37:04that I have here
37:06Where is the god Makemake?
37:07the creator god
37:08above
37:09the god Makemake
37:10if it is a sign
37:10typically Easter Island
37:12inside a moatoa
37:13which is a Polynesian sign
37:14what does it mean
37:15Well, health.
37:16and the god Makemake
37:16who is the main god of Easter
37:18Well, and this amulet
37:19What is a manga?
37:20typical of there
37:20I know it's a subjective experience
37:22oh well
37:23I'll keep a little
37:24of the two interpretations
37:26and well
37:26Let's get to the subjective
37:27to the spiritual
37:28oh well
37:28I got a fright.
37:29like never before in my life
37:30I take it as a lesson.
37:32never to be again
37:33the child
37:34let's say
37:34in a dangerous place
37:35and well then
37:37to tell a lot
37:37from Easter Island
37:38and of the places
37:38to which I go
37:39which I think is my job
37:40as a journalist
37:40But you'll agree
37:41in which the direct interpretation
37:43of all the people
37:43today
37:44because what surprised us
37:45Easter
37:46It's that despite the time
37:46elapsed
37:47from mythical times
37:48where for example
37:49were
37:50look
37:50how strong they are
37:51some objects
37:52These are in a museum
37:54from Ireland
37:55They are from the 18th century
37:56In other words, they've already arrived
37:57Europeans
37:58And look at those idols!
37:59represented as Aku Aku
38:01That's the kind of presence they have.
38:02they are very aware
38:03the Aku Aku
38:04and also not to harm them
38:06or not bother them
38:06under no circumstances
38:08they even
38:09when doing
38:10your tasks
38:10how to go fishing
38:12They ask for permission.
38:12to nature
38:13to catch those fish
38:15that they will consume
38:16that are not for
38:17other uses
38:18And not only that
38:19in the houses
38:20They still have a kind
38:21of lizards
38:22at the door of the houses
38:23to protect
38:24of those Aku Aku
38:25malignant
38:26the spirits of Easter
38:27They are different
38:28to any other
38:30The story was being told
38:31of a spirit
38:32like this
38:32with the bones
38:33outwards
38:34which sometimes occurred
38:35That's right
38:36with a gut
38:37that came out of his
38:38of his abdominal cavity
38:39and that it could catch you
38:40in the middle of the night
38:41Easter night
38:42It has been a taboo
38:42or taboo
38:43until very recently
38:44You couldn't go along the roads
38:45There was a figure
38:46similar
38:47of the seas
38:48who had only one hand
38:49notice the iconography
38:50that was getting bigger
38:51and I'd take you into the sea
38:52It's curious.
38:53because we are
38:53before a place
38:54I think it's unique
38:56and with some creatures
38:57very personal
38:59this arises
38:59through imagination
39:00from a place
39:00we repeat
39:01the most isolated in the world
39:03the most isolated place in the world
39:04or because really
39:05You see things
39:06or because really
39:07these presences
39:08They are there
39:09incredibly
39:10the presences are
39:10what happens
39:11the thing is
39:12on Easter Island
39:13I think that
39:14likely
39:15be one of the places
39:16world-specific
39:17that acts
39:18like a species
39:18of concentrator
39:20of that space
39:21the one we've talked so much about
39:22so many times
39:23between life and death
39:37It is still a language
39:39indecipherable
39:40and they say they were worth
39:41one million dollars
39:41in the 1970s
39:42each piece
39:43Well
39:43What can be said here?
39:44This is a decoration
39:45This is a joke
39:47This is an ancient language
39:48of which nothing remains.
39:49and nobody knows how to read
39:50He was persecuted by missionaries
39:52What could be here?
39:53I say from the outset
39:54It's not that they were chasing him
39:55the thing is
39:57were destroyed
39:58It is not known how many
39:59because they considered
40:00which was a thing
40:00superstitious
40:01and that it had to be burned
40:02It's more
40:03some of them
40:04It's burned
40:04Why is there no doubt?
40:06José Luis?
40:06man
40:07obviously
40:07the succession
40:08of the symbols
40:09from the rongo rongo
40:11determines
40:11which is a language
40:12It's probably a language
40:14made from pictograms
40:16It is very possible
40:17I have seen
40:17in the recording
40:19that they were talking
40:20of ideograms
40:21It is very possible
40:22that they are ideograms
40:22that it be an ideographic language
40:24What does that mean?
40:25that is to say
40:25that each of the symbols
40:26represents an idea
40:27It's something like that.
40:29not a letter
40:29one word
40:29an idea
40:30an idea
40:31a concept
40:32more or less abstract
40:33as they evolve
40:34the rongo rongo
40:35the concepts
40:36they are being made
40:36more abstract
40:37It is a path
40:39that have traveled
40:40all the graphics
40:41like hieroglyphics
40:41like Egyptian hieroglyphs
40:43that is to say
40:43hieroglyphics
40:44they ended up being
40:45practically dots and dashes
40:47of being complicated drawings
40:49they ended up being dots and dashes
40:50Well, this is a bit
40:51the same
40:52Look at this wonder!
40:53because seeing it like that
40:53the rongo rongo
40:54It reminds me a lot of it
40:55It reminds me a lot
40:56and perhaps some
40:57some specialist
40:59will be horrified
41:00about what I'm going to say
41:00But it reminds me a lot
41:01the appearance it has
41:03the glyphs
41:04the signs
41:04of linear B of Crete
41:06the best studio
41:07that has been done
41:07on the tablets
41:08which also
41:08Okay, now I'll comment.
41:09what do they mean
41:10and how are they really said
41:11I mean Paul Pelio
41:12in the 1930s
41:13of the last century
41:14a French philologist
41:16He conducted a study
41:17perhaps the best
41:18that has been done
41:18comparative
41:18of the tablets
41:20Easter
41:22comparing it
41:22with some symbols
41:23that appear
41:23Now that's a mystery!
41:25in Mohen, Jodaro
41:26and in Jarapa
41:27in Pakistan
41:27And that's it.
41:30In other words, there are symbols
41:31well but
41:32makes a comparison
41:33of the symbols
41:34It is important to keep in mind
41:35makes a comparison
41:35one moment
41:36so that everyone
41:37understand
41:37because if not
41:37that is to say
41:38in Pakistan
41:38a culture
41:40exactly
41:41very ancient
41:41ancient
41:42mother culture
41:44of many others
41:45one of those that were considered
41:46older
41:47along with Sumer
41:48except that it has been discovered
41:50very recently
41:51that in the vicinity
41:52from Mohen, Jodaro
41:53as a result of all the consequences
41:54of the tsunami
41:55etc.
41:56has been discovered
41:57remnants of a civilization
41:58about 15,000 years old
42:00B.C.
42:02for now
42:03This would be one of the first
42:04and then
42:05in those signs
42:06by Mohen Jodaro
42:08Some say
42:09that there are parallels
42:10which is the only thing it resembles
42:11the Easter tablets
42:12That's it.
42:12clear
42:13This would generate
42:13There are more parallels
42:14but it would generate
42:15a huge problem
42:16anyway
42:18It is important to keep in mind
42:18one thing
42:19on this
42:19the experts
42:20They say something
42:21which is true
42:22we need to be guided
42:24not only
42:24because of the similarities
42:25but also
42:26because of the differences
42:27that is to say
42:28cannot be excluded
42:29the differences
42:29the differences
42:30and the similarities
42:30maybe they are
42:3150%
42:31in one half
42:33There are
42:33we compare
42:34obviously
42:34when we compare
42:36We need to compare
42:37two things
42:37differences
42:38and similarities
42:39it is fundamental
42:40if we don't get lost
42:41That's why I was going to tell you
42:43that there is one thing
42:43which rarely
42:44reference is made
42:45or it is mentioned
42:46at Easter
42:47shamans existed
42:48clear
42:49shamanic culture
42:50It's a culture
42:52extremely important
42:53absolutely unknown
42:55practically
42:55such
42:56that had a science
42:57which probably
42:57dates back to prehistory
42:58that is to say
42:59there are shamans
43:00among other things
43:00because in the volcano
43:01in Ranucao
43:02it was discovered
43:03a petroglyph
43:04which represents
43:04the typical face
43:06with deer antlers
43:08and beards
43:09It is a figure
43:10that repeats
43:10again and again
43:11Let me do it
43:11a small aside
43:13Because you're going to like this
43:13And he's going to like it.
43:14to the audience
43:14talking about shamans
43:15talking about witchcraft
43:16we have seen
43:17the incredible story
43:18of that woman
43:19who arrives as a scientist
43:20man his boat
43:21I repeat
43:22and just mind
43:23It had several processes
43:24solutions
43:25ends up admitted
43:26by force for the family
43:27She keeps watching
43:28to the witch
43:28the witch Angata
43:29which we are going to see
43:30a photograph
43:31her only photograph
43:33which really seems
43:33a man
43:34with some necklaces
43:35before this witch
43:36Here we are
43:37before they say
43:37one of the last
43:39authentic shamans
43:40Easter Islanders
43:41who knew how to relate
43:42with the Aku Aku
43:43I don't know if we know more
43:45of this woman
43:46Carmen
43:46which ended up causing
43:47Easter riots
43:48and ended up doing
43:49to go mad with fear
43:50to one of the main
43:52European researchers
43:53whose book
43:53that Carmen has there
43:54It's the Bible
43:56of anthropology
43:56still at Easter
43:57the discoveries
43:58of this woman
43:59that is practically leaving
44:00alone
44:00You have to imagine it
44:01leaving his professorship
44:03or their position
44:05at university
44:05and he leaves for Easter
44:06And she says
44:07that famous phrase
44:08that still
44:08the presence
44:09of the ancients
44:10builders of this
44:11is still present
44:12She ends up talking
44:13an unknown language
44:14She ends up talking
44:15a language
44:16that no one can understand
44:17saying words
44:18and that some think
44:19which is the ancient language
44:20Easter
44:20if we had to talk
44:22by María Angata
44:23is the person
44:24that we are seeing here
44:25is in that position
44:26because the last few years
44:27of his life
44:28was suffering from a problem
44:29back
44:29and he could no longer walk
44:31so
44:31all those
44:33who wanted to go
44:34to listen to their advice
44:35they had to go
44:36normally
44:37to a place
44:37where she stood
44:38in nature
44:39so that God
44:40I would speak to him
44:41That's what she said
44:42that woman
44:43in 1880
44:44It reaches as far as Tahiti
44:46They take her there
44:48some priests
44:50so that he/she can learn
44:51catechesis
44:51so that he/she can learn
44:52catechism
44:53and on the way back
44:53Easter
44:54she may be
44:55in the church
44:56and also help
44:57to the other Easter Islanders
44:58But that's not all.
45:00She had a series
45:01of natural gifts
45:02what he was doing
45:03that they had it
45:04Much respect
45:05on the island
45:05and also
45:06a certain fear
45:07fear
45:07because before
45:08were to occur
45:09some riots
45:10against the people
45:11the company
45:12that was there
45:13taking care of the livestock
45:14had arrived
45:14to an agreement
45:14with Chile
45:15they had
45:16to everyone
45:17the Easter Islanders
45:18working for them
45:19in terrible condition
45:21and this woman
45:22who had royal blood
45:23she was the stepsister
45:24of the previous king
45:25it is revealed
45:26against all this
45:27says
45:27that
45:28has had
45:29a divine revelation
45:31in which they told him
45:32that has to kill
45:33certain livestock
45:34and that also
45:35that cattle
45:36belongs
45:37to the people of Easter
45:38But there is a sign
45:39which does
45:41that everyone trusts her now
45:42He says he's coming.
45:43a ship
45:44with 12 men
45:45dying
45:46that will be
45:47a week
45:48lost
45:49at sea
45:50and that will arrive
45:51on the coasts
45:52Easter
45:53and indeed
45:5410 days later
45:55more or less
45:56from
45:57one of the areas
45:59from Orongo
45:59where we've been
46:00go
46:00approaching
46:02a vessel
46:02a vessel
46:03which precisely
46:03He was carrying 12 men
46:05that were
46:06in terrible condition
46:07almost dying
46:08then
46:09when she says
46:10that has had
46:10a divine dream
46:11in which
46:12God has revealed to him
46:13that they have
46:13that kill
46:14has won
46:15killing livestock
46:16and make a sacrifice
46:17then all of them
46:18They will eat in a ceremony.
46:19strange
46:20in which she
46:21says a few prayers
46:22precisely for
46:23the spirits
46:25but also knows
46:26Catherine Rowlich
46:27because Catherine
46:28it was precisely
46:30in that revolt
46:31she was
46:32with his group
46:33of archaeology
46:34of the Royal Society
46:35also from London
46:36They were there
46:37working
46:38were
46:38digging
46:39were
46:40studying
46:40the moai
46:41and says
46:42which is better
46:43that a woman goes
46:44talk to her
46:45because men
46:45directly
46:46what they wanted
46:47It was about taking out the weapons.
46:48and end
46:48with everyone
46:49those who had
46:51scrambled
46:52against power
46:53which had established
46:55on the island
46:55He's going to speak
46:56with Angata
46:57has a first meeting
46:58in which
46:59she tries
47:00give her some gifts
47:00Angata says
47:01who doesn't want a gift
47:02none
47:03that the only
47:03that has
47:04It's because he gave it to him.
47:06God
47:06and it is then
47:07when she speaks
47:09that they don't go
47:10to get the cattle
47:11because otherwise
47:12They're going to kill
47:12to all who go there
47:13Angata
47:14It changes completely
47:15says he's coming back
47:16a person
47:17very nervous
47:18which also
47:18Even his physical appearance changes
47:20it transforms
47:21even
47:22Rowlich
47:23in his book
47:24says he's coming back
47:25as a person
47:25very aggressive
47:26towards her
47:26that it comes to give
47:27quite scary
47:28and says
47:29that they will not be able to
47:30do nothing
47:31against them
47:32because the bullets
47:33They won't manage to give
47:34to the Easter Islanders
47:35never
47:35It's more
47:36that they will never see
47:37how they steal cattle
47:39indeed
47:39when they
47:40They're going to rob us
47:41that cattle
47:41They catch him
47:42and nobody sees
47:44It's like a screen
47:46suddenly
47:46the clouds
47:46they start to go down
47:47It is shaped like a screen
47:49in which
47:50the Chileans
47:52They see absolutely nothing.
47:53and they can take
47:54all the cattle
47:54that they want
47:55They cannot either
47:56kill them
47:57because they don't see them
47:59those spells
48:00which said
48:00that Angata
48:01bewitched
48:02to people
48:03And that's why
48:03They couldn't see them
48:04she really
48:06It has a lot to do with it
48:07in life
48:07by Catherine Rowlich
48:08because
48:09for a sale
48:10of objects
48:11that there
48:11it gets to have
48:11quite scary
48:12this woman
48:13That's also true
48:15who talked a lot
48:16with her
48:16apparently
48:17he told her
48:17big secrets
48:18that Rowlich
48:19wrote
48:20in some newspapers
48:20that were found
48:21many years
48:22later
48:23daily
48:24that according to what they say
48:25Some have left
48:26in the light
48:26but others
48:27were destroyed
48:28other letters
48:29other newspapers
48:29by Catherine herself
48:30when he was already there
48:31in London
48:32I thought that
48:33It was something evil.
48:34that should not
48:34post
48:35that he shouldn't go out
48:36in the light
48:36never
48:37It's so much
48:38that is enclosed
48:39at their home
48:40from London
48:41It's been almost a month
48:42without eating
48:43or see anyone
48:44to such an extent
48:45that eight people
48:46from the psychiatric hospital
48:47from London
48:47They have to enter
48:48Go for it!
48:49to take her by force
48:50and then
48:51confine her
48:52in that psychiatric hospital
48:54from London
48:54where it still has
48:56nightmares
48:56where he continues to dream
48:58with Angata
49:00continuously
49:01I spoke in a language
49:02strange
49:02it even seemed
49:03who spoke
49:03with the sorceress
49:04and more
49:05He said they appeared to him
49:06the builders
49:07of the Moai
49:08I had visions
49:09both auditory
49:10as visuals
49:11with them
49:12I had already seen them
49:13on Easter Island
49:14I had already had
49:15some episodes
49:16strangers
49:16in front of those
49:17stone figures
49:18but when it arrives
49:19to London
49:20They are even worse.
49:21even the family
49:23wants
49:24end Angata
49:26they want them to send
49:27to someone
49:27to end his life
49:28believing that he is casting a spell
49:29believing she is bewitched
49:31by Angata
49:31believing she is the sorceress
49:33the one that keeps bothering
49:34to his family
49:36This is a hallucination
49:37of a person
49:38that was wrong
49:38or a sorcerer
49:39Easter
49:40to other parts
49:41can have
49:41this power
49:42can arrive
49:42to master
49:43to a person
49:44It sounds strange to us.
49:45this story
49:45of the scientist
49:46which ends up being
49:47driven mad
49:47that suggests
49:48this story
49:49well I
49:49would begin
49:50firstly
49:51me
49:52if it were a case
49:53isolated
49:53Okay
49:54But when one studies
49:55in the amount
49:57of anthropologists
49:57that have happened to him
49:58similar things
49:59I would focus
50:00in personality
50:01Let's see
50:02They tell me first
50:04that she is a
50:05ariji
50:05or ariki
50:06that is to say
50:07is a person
50:08of royal lineage
50:08that has
50:09royal blood
50:10who is a descendant
50:11of the gods
50:12and therefore
50:13has manaloa
50:14He has that special power
50:16And that can be used
50:16I imagine
50:17for better or for worse
50:17That's what I was going to say.
50:18indeed
50:19that is to say
50:20that part
50:21component
50:22that component
50:22shamanic
50:23of personality
50:24of this person
50:26That's what calls to me
50:27fundamentally me
50:27attention
50:28We must remember
50:28that the shamans
50:29not only are they capable
50:31to modify
50:31the situation
50:34immediate
50:34that surrounds him
50:35but they are specialists
50:36in traveling the world
50:37of the dead
50:38that is to say
50:38They are the greatest specialists
50:40that there
50:41That gives them
50:42a series of powers
50:43life
50:44and about death
50:45and gives them powers
50:47not only
50:48to go
50:48to the living
50:49towards the kingdom
50:50from the shadows
50:51or towards the kingdom
50:51of death
50:52but to attract
50:53to the ghosts
50:54or to the dead
50:55dangerous
50:55towards this side
50:56of the barrier
50:58precisely
50:59That's one part
51:00of dreams
51:00Rowlett's
51:01what it says
51:02I'm watching
51:03to the builders
51:03of the Muay
51:04But the thing is
51:04the builders
51:05of the Muay
51:05belong
51:06to the kingdom
51:07of the dead
51:08they are presented
51:09again
51:09They are dead
51:11dead
51:11that return
51:12a type of dead
51:13special
51:14No, no, of course not.
51:14according to the people of Pasto
51:16We can talk later
51:17of the different
51:18types of dead
51:19In this case, me
51:20what I think
51:22It's just that this lady
51:23comes out of a society
51:24British
51:25corseted
51:25It really goes
51:27to the end of the world
51:28which is Easter
51:28is found
51:29with a bright
51:30in a society
51:31ancestral
51:31and she lets herself be.
51:33led by feelings
51:34And from what he's seeing
51:35And I don't believe it.
51:36that a person
51:36at Easter
51:37even if I have
51:38the capacity
51:39that escapes us
51:40for knowledge
51:41scientists
51:41can make another person
51:43goes crazy
51:43I think Katherine Rowling
51:44goes crazy
51:45because simply
51:45is created
51:46it is believed
51:47what certain things
51:49which may seem
51:51which are
51:51But I don't think so.
51:52than a curse
51:53You've seen
51:53to the explorers
51:55I remember your experience
51:57had been living
51:58in Africa
51:59with the Kikuyu
52:00which was an ethnic group
52:03that was not known
52:04by no one
52:05and she as a woman
52:06He's living there
52:07is living
52:08with them
52:09a very long time
52:10And she's no fool.
52:12He's not someone
52:13that she's gone crazy
52:14with four stones
52:15if I come from Easter
52:16with a tattoo
52:16I mean, he's going to slap me.
52:18and I get a tattoo
52:19Yeah
52:20Let's see
52:20Let's see
52:21but still
52:22in this study
52:22It happened recently
52:24when this was discussed
52:25an accident
52:26that we are not going to narrate
52:27my rational thinking
52:28It makes me want to run away from that
52:29anyway
52:29For example
52:30but your rational thinking
52:32It makes you
52:32But we're talking
52:32Now, let's talk about something else.
52:33It makes your body stand out.
52:34with a symbol
52:36in case I'm wrong
52:37in case I'm wrong
52:38so
52:38It's not that rational
52:39no, no, no
52:40sorry
52:41there is a component of rationality
52:42and a component of irrationality
52:43That's what we're talking about
52:44It's you.
52:45that you contradict yourself
52:46I must say no
52:48I mean, I refuse to think
52:49that a woman simply
52:50supposedly
52:52talking to the dead
52:52can make another person
52:53whatever is
52:53my rational mind
52:55It makes me think
52:56that's not true
52:56just like I buy amulets
52:58And you know I have a lot
52:59And I'm superstitious
52:59It's the magnetism of Easter.
53:01It's because it's an angate
53:02It's society.
53:03in which she has become involved
53:05learning even their language
53:06is that he is going to visit
53:08to the lepers
53:09to the elderly
53:10to rescue
53:11that ancient story
53:13of the island
53:13that there was an Easter lazaretto
53:14clear
53:15that we imagine
53:16thousands of kilometers away
53:16from any known place
53:17the leper colony
53:19which was a bad
53:19that was Easter
53:20This lady had
53:21a great experience in Polynesia
53:23look
53:23It's not just at Easter
53:25He wrote about three books about Polynesia.
53:26even if we study
53:27What is shamanism?
53:28on Easter Island
53:29on the island
53:29any
53:30if we study
53:30It's not the same
53:31that she is a very sensitive person
53:33It doesn't mean you're crazy
53:34This means that
53:35all the magnetism
53:37all the magic
53:38that had so much anga
53:39like the island
53:40they come together
53:41in a person
53:42who is Catherine Rollich
53:43Catherine Rollich
53:44That's why his life ends like this.
53:45And there's a story.
53:46that I want to tell
53:47and that it's very pretty
53:48which is when Catherine dies
53:49Rapa Nui
53:52that she had been with
53:53working day and night
53:55which was called
53:56Juan Tepano
53:57Juan Tepano
53:57I was in Anaquena
53:59on Anaquena beach
54:00and right at the moment
54:01in which Catherine Rollich
54:03dies
54:03see some footprints
54:05that he identifies
54:07with Catherine's shoes
54:08precisely at the moment
54:10at the moment
54:10who dies
54:12because legend has it
54:13and tradition
54:14and they still think so
54:16on Easter Island
54:17that those who leave
54:18this world
54:19to the person
54:20with which they have had
54:21more affection
54:22who wanted more
54:23that belongs to that island
54:24they will be presented
54:25Well, a better ending is impossible.
54:27rationality and rationality
54:28not explainable
54:30hallucinogens
54:30perfectly measurable things
54:32scientists
54:33or in Cava Cava
54:34or its strange power
54:35or the sentinel
54:36of the secrets of Easter
54:37who doesn't want them to rebel
54:39That's what you should think about.
54:40It has been a pleasure
54:42and this debate is sure
54:43that repeats
54:43talking about other places
54:44of the world
54:45Of course, do it.
54:45at the navel of the earth
54:47or in the eyes
54:48who look up at the sky
54:49Mata Kiterangi
54:50It was worth it
54:51Thanks to the four of them
54:51really, guys
54:52thanks a lot
54:53and now
54:54Let's look at some other images.
54:56so disturbing
54:57like the eyes
54:58Moai Cava Cava
54:59These are her images
55:00equally important