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00:00:29The Chronicle of Our Journey

00:00:30Enrique de Vicente is vice president of the Spanish Society of Anthropology and Cultural Traditions

00:00:34And here are some key points on that subject.

00:00:36Don Enrique de Vicente, welcome, good evening

00:00:38Good evening, Iker

00:00:39What have you felt?

00:00:40Well, I'm impressed.

00:00:43But I have been impressed by the piece you have broadcast from the beginning

00:00:47Because, I ask you a question

00:00:49Why are you so interested in the roadside shrines?

00:00:53What did you feel there?

00:00:55And also, were you only there during the day or did you go to those places at any point...

00:00:59No, no, at night, of course, I can answer you, Carmen.

00:01:01Why are we bringing up this topic?

00:01:03We could see there was a relationship.

00:01:04That Carmen is more sensitive

00:01:05Of course, besides, it was a highway; we even called it the highway of death among ourselves.

00:01:10Because in all the days we traveled those kilometers that separated us from Cerro Unita

00:01:16Or painted ones, which we will see later or have already seen in the report

00:01:21Well, the truth is that we had seen several accidents

00:01:23And it made us... it made us wonder what those little huts were.

00:01:29That were on both sides of the road

00:01:31Sometimes there were three or four

00:01:33On other occasions there was only one

00:01:34Sometimes we would see families stopping at those small booths

00:01:39And when we asked our guide, Pablo, he told us about the roadside shrines.

00:01:43Throughout our journey through Chile we saw many roadside shrines

00:01:46Both day and night

00:01:48In some places, even the nitrate mines located within the Atacama Desert

00:01:54And the truth is that we later learned a little about her story and it's most shocking.

00:01:58They are shrines they make there for the deceased.

00:02:01To the people who have tragically lost their lives

00:02:04And that's how his family remembers him.

00:02:06Building those small churches

00:02:09And sometimes they had very curious shapes

00:02:12Like that of a taxi

00:02:13Because a taxi driver had been killed there.

00:02:15And people think they're asking those roadside shrines for favors.

00:02:19And in return, they give them to them.

00:02:20That tragic death has a lot to do with that desert

00:02:24I think it has a lot to do with the geoglyphs we've seen.

00:02:28And also with all the culture that exists in northern Chile

00:02:31It's all connected, and they've known this for at least 5,000 years.

00:02:37The wise men who built those figures

00:02:41And whose descendants continue to live and practice today

00:02:45Along those lines, and for me, they are the ones who hold the answer to this enigma.

00:02:52Let's see how Enrique and our next guest and good friend feel.

00:02:56When we see an image, one that I'm sure has impacted you

00:02:59A satellite image

00:03:00Of course, our archaeologist somehow

00:03:03We always say it in the kindest way.

00:03:05Editor of another magazine, an archaeology magazine

00:03:08And I'm sure that this year, with both of them, we're going to enjoy a great deal of learning.

00:03:11Nacho Ares, dear friend, welcome

00:03:12Good evening, how are you?

00:03:14I imagine you've felt things too.

00:03:15I don't know how, Enrique, but I'm sure your soul does too.

00:03:17Upon seeing this, which is essentially an archaeological mystery

00:03:19Indeed, I agree somewhat with what he said.

00:03:21I wanted to congratulate you, Carmen, and the entire team that has accompanied you.

00:03:25Because somehow, well, I felt like I was reliving a little of that thing that had been there for years and years.

00:03:31I didn't feel anything, did I?

00:03:33Watching such magnificent documentaries on television as the one you just saw...

00:03:36Pieces in this case a little shorter, just as magnificent

00:03:39Where it is presented to the general public

00:03:42True treasures of archaeology

00:03:44They are the great unknowns

00:03:46Of the artistic and cultural heritage of all humanity

00:03:50Where we find not only works made by human beings

00:03:55Truly incredible, but

00:03:57We have the added advantage that they are completely surrounded by mystery.

00:04:00Because we haven't the faintest idea

00:04:02Who made them, when they were made, how they were made, etc.

00:04:06And what for?

00:04:07You have said almost point by point what the world's leading expert says

00:04:11Luis Briones, we truly appreciate you being with us

00:04:13World's Leading Authority on Geoglyphs

00:04:15And he said he was going to die without knowing this code, right?

00:04:18This immense map says something, but we don't know what.

00:04:20Okay, let's do an experiment

00:04:22Enrique, especially Nacho, because Carmen and I were there.

00:04:24And you can see a lot of planes, how small we are, right?

00:04:27It is the largest humanoid figure in history

00:04:31So, what do you see here? What is this?

00:04:34How do you feel watching this?

00:04:35Enrique, Nacho

00:04:37Well, the truth is that it's an anthropomorphic figure.

00:04:40With many geometric features

00:04:43Very similar to those we can find in other places on the same continent

00:04:49A little further...

00:04:51Well, on the Nazca Lines

00:04:53But it's practically the same historical area

00:04:55The border is Chile-Peru, but it's the same desert

00:04:57What's curious is that it's the same strip, as if it had a kind of appeal that runs along

00:05:03the story

00:05:04The different cultures that for thousands of years, millennia, we're not talking about centuries

00:05:08The only way, it must be said, to date these types of pieces

00:05:12It's about finding parallels in ceramics, in designs on textiles, and so on.

00:05:17There is no other way; that is the great problem for geographers.

00:05:19There are no texts, no texts that tell us about these cultures

00:05:22It is true that the Spanish arrived there from the 16th-17th centuries onwards

00:05:26They already refer to these large, gigantic drawings in their chronicles.

00:05:32In the pampas of Chile and Peru

00:05:34Gods, shamans, hallucinations for some extraterrestrials

00:05:39Indicators such as old caravan traffic signs

00:05:43Enrique, your opinion on perhaps the most impressive figure

00:05:47Well, for me, only intuitively

00:05:49What that represents from my point of view

00:05:53It is a creature with a feline face

00:05:56Belonging to a certain category of shamans

00:06:01What is called an Inca safa

00:06:05It is a name that would mean the resplendent one

00:06:09That's where the rays come from.

00:06:11And it is the equivalent of a well-known figure in ancient Egypt

00:06:16And the Aku-Sensu-Hor are highly mythologized.

00:06:20The resplendent followers of the path of Horus

00:06:23What does this mean?

00:06:25They are people who still follow an old path.

00:06:28The path of the stars

00:06:29And the path of the lightworkers

00:06:33Well, they believe that within the human being

00:06:36There is a series, let's say, of chakras or energy centers

00:06:39And that on Earth too

00:06:40And in the Andes there are chakras

00:06:42Those chakras are, for example, Cuzco

00:06:45Places of power

00:06:46Places of power

00:06:46And those places of power are united

00:06:50I'm saying what follows from that

00:06:51They're united, we're all talking

00:06:53As the shamans see it, it's like luminous forms

00:06:56Like paths, trails of light

00:06:58And they at night, when they go to these lines

00:07:03Just like with the Enazca, to practice

00:07:05Because that's where they do their internships.

00:07:06Why do I know all this?

00:07:08Because many Westerners

00:07:11Anthropologists, among others

00:07:12That have been initiated

00:07:13They have done those practices

00:07:14Rituals in these specific places where we were?

00:07:17Taking a substance, for example

00:07:18What is San Pedrito?

00:07:19The San Pedro is a hallucinogenic cactus

00:07:21And all the people I've spoken to

00:07:24They told me how

00:07:25Night

00:07:26Those paths and lines are resplendent.

00:07:30And how in those figures

00:07:32A whole series of spirits are summoned

00:07:36That's what they perceive, at least.

00:07:39Elementary or various figures

00:07:40Of all kinds

00:07:41This is a vast, broad topic

00:07:44But why those figures?

00:07:46But look, Enrique, something curious

00:07:47Pablo Cañarte told us

00:07:48One of our companions on the trip

00:07:50Knower of this Land

00:07:50And it can be seen in the satellite photo

00:07:52That under certain light conditions

00:07:54At dusk or sunset

00:07:56The organic substrate itself

00:07:59From the giant of the body

00:08:01It makes it look white

00:08:02Let it shine

00:08:03In other words, there was a visual concept.

00:08:05But of great enigma

00:08:06I think we're all in them

00:08:07Why the satellite

00:08:08From Google Earth in this case

00:08:10Express the truth

00:08:12That which has the power of the giant

00:08:14And not even we

00:08:15Being under his feet

00:08:16We could see the same thing

00:08:17In other words, they were drawing

00:08:19Centuries ago for the satellite

00:08:20In one of the key

00:08:20Indeed, as I tell you

00:08:21You're perhaps hitting on one of the key points.

00:08:23The interpretations that have been given

00:08:24This type of figures

00:08:27From the lines

00:08:28The clues, etc.

00:08:29Which in many cases surround

00:08:31These drawings

00:08:32It has been said that if they were

00:08:33Well, road signs

00:08:35There is a completely absurd theory

00:08:37He says they were

00:08:38Simple decorative motifs

00:08:39Etc

00:08:40I believe

00:08:41I think it is

00:08:42Perhaps one of the theories

00:08:43What more weight can it have?

00:08:44It's some kind of

00:08:46Well, representation

00:08:48To worship

00:08:50However we choose to understand it

00:08:51To those gods

00:08:51That they are in heaven

00:08:52Because precisely

00:08:54More than importance

00:08:55Its own importance

00:08:56About the drawing itself

00:08:56What is important

00:08:57It's the place where it's made

00:08:59In other words, these are not just any hills.

00:09:01It is not an indeterminate place

00:09:03They are sacred hills

00:09:04That for thousands and thousands of years

00:09:06All cultures

00:09:07The peoples who have settled

00:09:09We must not forget that.

00:09:09That many of these

00:09:10Today, perhaps absolutely nothing remains.

00:09:12But in others

00:09:13Yes, they have appeared

00:09:14Well, necropolis

00:09:15Certain burials

00:09:17Living quarters, in short

00:09:18What are they telling us?

00:09:18That they are specific places

00:09:20That the ancient peoples

00:09:22They understood them as sacred centers

00:09:24And that was where

00:09:25They performed ceremonies

00:09:26That's clear.

00:09:27Look at this, Enrique

00:09:28Which is very interesting

00:09:29Just so you can see.

00:09:30The use of these drawings

00:09:32With the light

00:09:33With the sun

00:09:33With that magic of nature

00:09:35To revive him

00:09:36Let's go to the next place

00:09:38And now you tell me

00:09:39Because I know that Carmen

00:09:40He was very impressed

00:09:41In Tiliviche

00:09:43Look at this image

00:09:46We were lucky

00:09:47We were able to meet

00:09:48In this impressive ravine

00:09:51It looks like a large prehistoric cave

00:09:52Because one sees flames

00:09:54But he also sees figures

00:09:55From a modern conception

00:09:56Awesome

00:09:57It's not easy to do it on a slope.

00:09:59In short, a flock

00:10:00As a spiritual being

00:10:01Or out of this world

00:10:03And the sunset in this place

00:10:04It provoked a series in us

00:10:05Of optical illusions

00:10:07Completely different

00:10:08And you experienced it, Carmen

00:10:09What did it feel like here, for example?

00:10:10In Tiliviche

00:10:12As the sun was setting

00:10:13Or by moving these figures?

00:10:15The truth is that

00:10:16We had to see the place.

00:10:18Because if not

00:10:18As we passed by the road

00:10:20He went unnoticed

00:10:21We had to get involved

00:10:22Through a kind of ravine

00:10:23And we arrived

00:10:24Up to this place

00:10:25Where we were

00:10:26With a panel

00:10:27As we are seeing

00:10:28It was full of flames

00:10:29But there were two figures

00:10:30They attracted a lot of attention

00:10:31The man running

00:10:32And we can see them

00:10:33A man who is running

00:10:34To the right

00:10:34And another one who seems to be

00:10:35Scaring

00:10:36Or scaring them away

00:10:37With arms raised

00:10:38To those flames

00:10:39And taking them too

00:10:41Where is it?

00:10:42This other figure

00:10:43The place

00:10:44A desert

00:10:46Beautiful at sunset

00:10:47It was a peace

00:10:49What you felt

00:10:50When you were sitting

00:10:50On Earth

00:11:13Why did they put that there?

00:11:16If it wasn't to look at them

00:11:17To worship them

00:11:18To perform a ritual

00:11:20In front of them

00:11:21Because it was the feeling

00:11:22That I gave you

00:11:23And even when we were

00:11:25In Cerro Unita

00:11:25If you remember

00:11:26Yes, right in front

00:11:28Which was perfectly visible

00:11:30The giant

00:11:30There was a bonfire

00:11:32A bonfire

00:11:33Where they had been

00:11:34People spending the night

00:11:36We don't know what to do

00:11:37What kind of rituals

00:11:38You were right.

00:11:39The shamans

00:11:41TRUE?

00:11:41The shamans

00:11:42What they were doing there

00:11:43His prayers

00:11:44Or what

00:11:45More than prayers

00:11:46They are the cahuacs

00:11:47That is to say

00:11:48Those who see

00:11:49The seers

00:11:50What they're going to do

00:11:52And they perceive things

00:11:53That the rest of the people

00:11:54They do not perceive

00:11:54And on those paths

00:11:57And around those geoglyphs

00:11:58They perform their rituals

00:12:01But I'm saying

00:12:02Including many Westerners

00:12:04With an academic background

00:12:06And the rituals

00:12:08And the rituals

00:12:08They are very diverse

00:12:09Among other things

00:12:11Exorcism rituals

00:12:13To free someone

00:12:14From a problem

00:12:15To invoke

00:12:15Certain types of figures

00:12:17Healing rituals

00:12:19Training rituals

00:12:20At those levels

00:12:22From the initiatory path

00:12:24Shamanic

00:12:25And there is something very important.

00:12:27And it is

00:12:28All of this

00:12:29It is nothing but a continuation

00:12:31From a whole series

00:12:32Of geoglyphs

00:12:34And of lines

00:12:34That begin

00:12:36North of Nazca

00:12:37Even further north

00:12:38Throughout Peru

00:12:39But all of Nazca

00:12:40Palpa

00:12:41Etc

00:12:41And they keep going down

00:12:42For Bolivia

00:12:44The area, let's say

00:12:46Western Bolivia

00:12:47Sahama

00:12:48The Sahama lines

00:12:49And they continue throughout this area

00:12:51It's the same

00:12:51There were no borders

00:12:52And why?

00:12:53Why all over the planet

00:12:54It's just a drawing

00:12:55In this way

00:12:56With this amount

00:12:57Drawings

00:12:57This part

00:12:58If it were a habitual behavior

00:13:00There is a key for me

00:13:02Eye

00:13:02It's an answer

00:13:04There are many answers.

00:13:05The answers are very diverse.

00:13:07There are answers for me

00:13:09Let's say cosmic

00:13:10Or celestial

00:13:11That is to say

00:13:11What do they have to do with each other?

00:13:12With the stars

00:13:13There are telluric responses

00:13:15What do they have to do with each other?

00:13:16With Pachamama

00:13:17With the energies

00:13:18There are several answers.

00:13:20And these others

00:13:21What am I saying?

00:13:22And they are all

00:13:22Extremely linked

00:13:23But Nacho

00:13:24Official archaeology

00:13:25It seems that still

00:13:26I'm not going to say that

00:13:27But he fears

00:13:29But it is true

00:13:30That has surprised us

00:13:31Right, Carmen?

00:13:31The lack of information

00:13:32The limited bibliography

00:13:34Concrete

00:13:34About this type

00:13:36For example

00:13:36Of

00:13:36Let's call her

00:13:37Poor Nazca

00:13:38If you want

00:13:38Or the unknown Nazca

00:13:39There are only two studies

00:13:41Academics

00:13:41In magazines

00:13:42Highly specialized

00:13:43That cannot be obtained

00:13:45Not even online

00:13:46Only in a few libraries

00:13:48University students

00:13:48And why the silence

00:13:49Nacho?

00:13:49In the archaeological

00:13:50When we have this

00:13:51We are facing a problem

00:13:52Due to lack of information

00:13:53That is to say

00:13:53No information about others

00:13:55That we don't have access

00:13:56To the existing information

00:13:57As Enrique says

00:13:58But what are we finding?

00:14:00But what are we finding?

00:14:00In front of some drawings

00:14:02Built on the hillside

00:14:05From some mountains

00:14:05And we have no further data.

00:14:07And from there

00:14:08We have to try

00:14:10Reconstructing history

00:14:11Of these towns

00:14:12With such poor information

00:14:15In quotation marks

00:14:16Like that

00:14:17From there

00:14:18Clear

00:14:18We can speculate

00:14:20Of all kinds

00:14:21Enrique was speaking now.

00:14:22Of those interconnections

00:14:23Terrestrial animals that may exist

00:14:25Between some areas

00:14:27Or other cities

00:14:28And others

00:14:28I believe

00:14:29And this is something

00:14:30At least

00:14:31From my point of view

00:14:32In archaeology

00:14:33She is becoming more and more convinced

00:14:35It's not just that

00:14:36There are land unions

00:14:37Starry nights

00:14:38That is to say

00:14:38Many of these lines

00:14:39They are oriented

00:14:40This one or this one

00:14:41Nacho was talking to us

00:14:42Let me

00:14:42In Cerro Pintados

00:14:43Which is another of the places

00:14:44It's an incredible mural.

00:14:45For a thousand years

00:14:46The man made a mural

00:14:47And some drawings

00:14:48They never got to see him

00:14:49Only from the sky

00:14:50Well then

00:14:50One of the theories

00:14:51What they told us

00:14:52Was

00:14:52For a brandy

00:14:54A species

00:14:54From a large star map

00:14:56Clear

00:14:56That's what they said

00:14:57The first researchers

00:14:59That they approached

00:15:00To Nazca

00:15:01What were they saying?

00:15:02That was

00:15:02A map

00:15:03Of the stars

00:15:04And here

00:15:06Well, we can find

00:15:07Certainly

00:15:07Similar elements

00:15:09Similar

00:15:09Excellent

00:15:10Comparing them with others

00:15:11What's in the same area

00:15:11From the continent

00:15:12We can already find

00:15:14Some clues

00:15:14From which

00:15:15At least try

00:15:18If you don't really know

00:15:19Who did it?

00:15:19At least

00:15:20The concerns I had

00:15:21Which is also an important detail

00:15:22As Nacho said

00:15:24They are still visible here

00:15:26Fundamentally

00:15:27So we know

00:15:27Because first

00:15:28They have not been destroyed

00:15:30Thanks to the features

00:15:31Desert Specials

00:15:33That is to say

00:15:33There would be more throughout America

00:15:35But only where they are protected

00:15:37And two

00:15:37And the respect that is shown

00:15:39Towards them

00:15:39That is

00:15:40And because I clean them

00:15:41Allow me, Enrique

00:15:42Because there's a detail

00:15:42That's tremendous

00:15:43And this

00:15:43People say

00:15:44Well, in Spain

00:15:45And it needs to be said.

00:15:46It's strange.

00:15:46There are no fences

00:15:47There are no fences

00:15:48There is no protection

00:15:49There is nothing.

00:15:49So

00:15:50Anyone can take it

00:15:51And it changes the giant's face

00:15:52But there is an age-old respect.

00:15:54Something that is sacred

00:15:54Respect and fear

00:15:56Respect and fear

00:15:56To those spirits

00:15:58That they may be

00:15:59Swarming around

00:16:00Let's see

00:16:01The problem there

00:16:03That every Peruvian knows

00:16:04All Bolivians

00:16:05Or all indigenous

00:16:07From northern Chile

00:16:09They know perfectly well

00:16:10That the desecration

00:16:11From a huaca

00:16:12From a sacred place

00:16:13Any

00:16:13The huacas are also

00:16:14The little mounds of stones

00:16:16That you will have seen

00:16:16That's a huaca.

00:16:17The violation of that

00:16:19A consequence

00:16:20Very high

00:16:21Safe

00:16:22Which leads him

00:16:23It's a scare

00:16:24Fright is the disease

00:16:26More common among them

00:16:27Which has a whole series

00:16:28Symptoms

00:16:29And that is a

00:16:30It's truly an enigma.

00:16:31For medicine

00:16:32Because there are

00:16:33Every year

00:16:34They are studied

00:16:35Hundreds of thousands

00:16:36Of scary cases

00:16:37In all those lands

00:16:38He begins to pale

00:16:40She begins to have symptoms

00:16:41Depression

00:16:42He's starting to get thinner.

00:16:44And only he can

00:16:45To heal a healer

00:16:47That's why the fright occurs.

00:16:48Or for several other reasons

00:16:50And it is

00:16:51They say it's one of the ways

00:16:53Of soul loss

00:16:54In which they steal your soul

00:16:56As a result of that desecration

00:17:07I don't know about you

00:17:08What is the figure?

00:17:09Or the overall impression

00:17:10What gave you all this

00:17:11But it is true

00:17:12That death

00:17:13It surrounds everything

00:17:14Enrique was speaking

00:17:15That witchcraft

00:17:16Also the malignant one

00:17:17He has walked around the place

00:17:18Because we had been told

00:17:19Cases of premature burials

00:17:20Under that owl

00:17:22Premature burials

00:17:23And countless other things

00:17:23And not only that

00:17:24Enrique was speaking

00:17:25That bad luck

00:17:28What does stealing bring?

00:17:29Some of those stones

00:17:30From the mounds

00:17:32What was there

00:17:33But also

00:17:34The roadside shrines

00:17:35Currently

00:17:36The same thing happens

00:17:38Destroying them

00:17:39It will bring you bad luck

00:17:41Bring those evil spirits

00:17:43Towards you

00:17:44Therefore

00:17:44In ancient times

00:17:45They were the stones

00:17:46Currently

00:17:47They are the roadside shrines.

00:17:48That you keep coming across

00:17:49By the roads

00:17:50Those roadside shrines

00:17:51That for one

00:17:52They are miraculous

00:17:53Because in Santiago

00:17:54Precisely

00:17:54At the central station

00:17:55What we saw

00:17:56There's a roadside shrine

00:17:58Of a character

00:17:59Very interesting

00:17:59I was leaving the hospital

00:18:00He is beaten

00:18:01And he kills him.

00:18:02Precisely

00:18:03On the walls

00:18:04From that central

00:18:04Well

00:18:05So they build a shrine for him

00:18:06A roadside shrine

00:18:07That for some

00:18:08It is miraculous

00:18:09Because people

00:18:09He's going to ask there

00:18:10His favors

00:18:11A roadside shrine

00:18:12That for many

00:18:13Restorations

00:18:14That have been done

00:18:14From the sidewalk

00:18:15From the wall

00:18:15They haven't been able to change it.

00:18:17Due to popular fervor

00:18:18Because people believe

00:18:19If it's touched

00:18:20To that deceased

00:18:21If it's touched

00:18:22To his soul

00:18:22Bad luck

00:18:23It's going to fall on them

00:18:24So in a way

00:18:26It's a culture

00:18:26That it is very close

00:18:28So much before

00:18:29Like now

00:18:30With their deceased

00:18:31With their ancestors

00:18:32And with the rituals

00:18:33Rituals that for us

00:18:34Some are difficult

00:18:36To understand

00:18:36How curious, Carmen.

00:18:37Because in the end

00:18:38The overall conclusion

00:18:39Everyone will have their own opinion.

00:18:40Archaeological

00:18:42Anthropological

00:18:42Shamans

00:18:43Soul Hunters

00:18:44Power lines

00:18:45Star maps

00:18:47Simple signs

00:18:48Purely archaeological

00:18:50And practices

00:18:50But the feeling

00:18:51That we have had

00:18:52In this desert

00:18:53What we have seen

00:18:53Quite unknown

00:18:54At a popular level

00:18:55It's that death

00:18:56The sacred

00:18:56The beyond

00:18:57The underworld

00:18:58He is completely overwhelmed by it.

00:18:59Everything yesterday and today

00:19:00It has been a pleasure

00:19:01Take this trip

00:19:01And we'll make many more.

00:19:03Don Enrique de Vicente

00:19:04Dear friend

00:19:04Thanks a lot

00:19:05Thank you so much

00:19:06And I loved it.

00:19:07Travel tonight

00:19:08With you

00:19:09Along these paths of light

00:19:12Along these paths

00:19:13To other worlds

00:19:14Of course, Enrique

00:19:15We will continue to do it

00:19:15That's the mission

00:19:17Main ship of mystery

00:19:18Nacho

00:19:19How wonderful to see you again

00:19:20Fourth season

00:19:20I'm sure with many things

00:19:21And soon

00:19:22I invite you

00:19:23I invite you

00:19:24On to another archaeological trip

00:19:25Hallucinatory

00:19:26Thanks Nacho

00:19:26Thank you

00:19:27And Carmen

00:19:28What do you think?

00:19:28Now let's get to the news.

00:19:30Because also

00:19:30Well, I won't say any more.

00:19:31There are surprises

00:19:32Many surprises

00:19:33We'll see.

00:19:34Throughout these programs

00:19:35Well

00:19:36Let's go with them

00:19:37Fourth Millennium News

00:19:47Pay attention to this news

00:19:48Because it passed without fanfare or glory

00:19:50She was talked about

00:19:51But it hides

00:19:52A story

00:19:53That might be related

00:19:54With everything we've talked about

00:19:55Paths of light

00:19:56And places of shadows

00:19:57Carmen

00:19:57It has been a team

00:19:58From Mexican archaeologists

00:20:00Who has discovered

00:20:01A series of caves

00:20:02According to the Mayans

00:20:04They could lead to the underworld

00:20:05Inside one of the caves

00:20:07He has located a road.

00:20:08Almost 100 meters long

00:20:10Similar to those of the Mayan enclave

00:20:12From Chichen Itza

00:20:13That leads to a column

00:20:14Of stalactites and stalamites

00:20:16It resembles a ceiba tree

00:20:18The Tree of Life

00:20:19For the Maya

00:20:20These are underground spaces

00:20:22Of caves and sacred rivers

00:20:24According to the Popol Vuh

00:20:25The Book of Mayan Mythology

00:20:27It led to the world of the dead

00:20:29Archaeologists believe

00:20:30That the places of worship

00:20:31Found

00:20:32Their objective was

00:20:33Revere Xibalba

00:20:34In addition, they have been found

00:20:36Human skeletal remains

00:20:37And funeral offerings

00:20:38Among them

00:20:39A vessel

00:20:40From 1900 years ago

00:20:41The researcher

00:20:43Deanda Alanis

00:20:44From the Autonomous University

00:20:45From Yucatán

00:20:45He tells us

00:20:46From this great discovery

00:20:48Like all Mayan caves

00:20:50Contains material

00:20:53Archaeological

00:20:54What can it give us?

00:20:54Lots of information

00:20:55Of all that was

00:20:56The cenote cult

00:20:57And to caves in general

00:20:58In particular

00:20:59This place

00:21:01It is important

00:21:02Because we have found

00:21:04Two temples

00:21:05Very elaborate

00:21:06Built

00:21:06Within a zone

00:21:08From the cave

00:21:08It is very inaccessible

00:21:10In sum

00:21:11Caves and cenotes

00:21:12They not only had

00:21:13A function

00:21:15Practice

00:21:15In the sense

00:21:16To obtain water

00:21:17For everyday life

00:21:18But also

00:21:19They had a ritual component

00:21:21Very important

00:21:22And very strong

00:21:23What is your

00:21:24To be the entrance

00:21:25Serve as an entrance

00:21:26To the Mayan underworld

00:21:27At the end of the program

00:21:28I would like to tell you something

00:21:29That relates to death

00:21:30And archaeology

00:21:31There's always that connection.

00:21:32But in Spain

00:21:33Very interesting

00:21:34It just occurred to me

00:21:35With this

00:21:35By the way

00:21:36Do you remember the files?

00:21:37British and French UFOs?

00:21:39It's your turn

00:21:40No more, no less

00:21:40That to Ecuador

00:21:41Well yes

00:21:42The government of Ecuador

00:21:43He has decided

00:21:45Declassify

00:21:46The files

00:21:47UFO

00:21:47Among the papers

00:21:48There are 44 testimonies

00:21:50Of people

00:21:50Belonging

00:21:51To the Ecuadorian Air Force

00:21:52As well as dozens

00:21:53From photographs

00:21:5414-12 videos

00:21:55And lots of news

00:21:56That allude

00:21:57To flying objects

00:21:58Unidentified

00:21:59The Ecuadorian Commission

00:22:00For the investigation

00:22:01About the UFO phenomenon

00:22:02It has been authorized

00:22:03By the President

00:22:04From that country

00:22:05Rafael Correa

00:22:06With the objective

00:22:07That it exists

00:22:07Informational transparency

00:22:09Of the sightings

00:22:10That they have had

00:22:11The armed forces

00:22:1250%

00:22:12They correspond

00:22:13To the Ground Force

00:22:1525%

00:22:16To the Air

00:22:16And the rest

00:22:17To the Navy

00:22:17Some think

00:22:19That the sighting

00:22:19That President Correa had

00:22:21In 1989

00:22:22When he found

00:22:23In Belgium

00:22:24And the vice president's

00:22:25Lenin Moreno

00:22:26Who observed a UFO

00:22:27When he found

00:22:28Fishing in the Lagoon

00:22:29From Puyano

00:22:30They have done

00:22:31That they can be declassified

00:22:32All these documents

00:22:34President and Vice President

00:22:35UFO witnesses

00:22:36Quite curious

00:22:37It was a curious moment

00:22:38From trepanation

00:22:39They remember

00:22:40Last season

00:22:40With the same main characters

00:22:42That they had been here

00:22:43Juan Villa

00:22:43And Dr. Cabrera

00:22:44We were talking about trepanations

00:22:46This had to be

00:22:47A painful trepanation

00:22:48Carmen

00:22:49German archaeologists

00:22:50They have found

00:22:51A skull

00:22:51That apparently

00:22:52It belonged

00:22:53To a Roman legionary

00:22:54And that it is crossed

00:22:56For an iron nail

00:22:57The discovery

00:22:58It has occurred

00:22:59In the Moselle region

00:23:00In Germany

00:23:01And apparently

00:23:02It's a trophy

00:23:03Of Celtic warfare

00:23:04Result of a battle

00:23:05It happened around the year 50

00:23:07B.C

00:23:08This is the first head

00:23:09Trophy

00:23:10That is

00:23:10In such good condition

00:23:11In Germany

00:23:11And according to the experts

00:23:13It is possible

00:23:13That the skull

00:23:14It belonged

00:23:15To a legionary

00:23:16From the hosts

00:23:17From Julius Caesar

00:23:18The skull

00:23:19It was found

00:23:19On the site

00:23:20From a Celtic settlement

00:23:21Among the Celts

00:23:22It's the custom

00:23:23Hang the skulls

00:23:24Of the defeated enemies

00:23:25Within the framework

00:23:26From the doors

00:23:27From their homes

00:23:29A year ago

00:23:29On this day

00:23:31Or on a night like this

00:23:32I was talking about

00:23:33Unusual world

00:23:34And we gave free rein

00:23:36To this world

00:23:37Truly enigmatic

00:23:38And surprising

00:23:39And I thank them

00:23:40The reception it has had

00:23:41This section

00:23:41Without further ado

00:23:43They already know.

00:23:43Unusual world

00:23:50The first news

00:23:51Unusual of the season

00:23:52It takes us to

00:23:53Piccadilly Circus

00:23:54In London

00:23:54It has opened there

00:23:55A museum

00:23:56Of the unusual

00:23:57The Ripley brand

00:23:58It has opened

00:23:59These stays

00:24:00To show

00:24:01For example

00:24:01Shrunken heads

00:24:03Apparently

00:24:03According to the signs

00:24:05They brought them

00:24:06Of the jíbaros

00:24:07From Ecuador

00:24:08They belong to the enemies

00:24:10From this indigenous tribe

00:24:11That shrank heads

00:24:13And as necklaces

00:24:15They hung them up

00:24:16From their necks

00:24:17You will also be able to see

00:24:18A cow with two heads

00:24:19Or even

00:24:20An albino lizard

00:24:22And all thanks to

00:24:23To the adventure

00:24:24From Mr. Ripley

00:24:25An amateur anthropologist

00:24:27That throughout his life

00:24:28He dedicated himself to traveling the world

00:24:30Searching

00:24:30These kinds of unusual objects

00:24:33And now we're leaving.

00:24:34Even the network of networks

00:24:36We know that through the internet

00:24:37It's already on sale.

00:24:37Almost everything

00:24:38TRUE?

00:24:38And in these auctions

00:24:40They are crowded

00:24:41Well, it has been

00:24:42A scientific discovery

00:24:43The one that has been given

00:24:44By chance

00:24:45A British scientist

00:24:46Bought

00:24:47Through that auction

00:24:49A strange amber

00:24:50Which contained

00:24:51A type of aphid

00:24:52Well then

00:24:53That aphid

00:24:53It was not listed

00:24:55It turns out

00:24:56That has between

00:24:5735 and 50 million

00:24:59Years ago

00:24:59And science

00:25:00I was unaware of its existence

00:25:02The network of networks

00:25:03In this case

00:25:04It has given us

00:25:05A good scientific discovery

00:25:07And speaking of animals

00:25:09We're leaving

00:25:09Even to Venezuela

00:25:10There a student

00:25:11From biology

00:25:12He has died

00:25:13In tragic circumstances

00:25:14I was studying

00:25:15The behavior

00:25:16From a python

00:25:17From Burma

00:25:183 meters

00:25:18He became careless

00:25:19This made him fond of it

00:25:21He nailed him

00:25:22The teeth

00:25:23On the neck

00:25:23And then it began

00:25:24Swallow it

00:25:25The scene

00:25:26That are found

00:25:26His colleagues

00:25:27The other caregivers

00:25:28It's because I already had it

00:25:29Head inserted

00:25:30Completely

00:25:31In the mouth

00:25:32Of this great serpent

00:25:33In the end

00:25:34They managed to rescue

00:25:36The corpse

00:25:36And at this very moment

00:25:38Another new feature

00:25:38For this year

00:25:39That I hope

00:25:39May it also be

00:25:40Welcomed as an unusual world

00:25:41The newspaper archive

00:25:42Let's call it that

00:25:43Although it could be

00:25:44The thing about forgotten cases

00:25:46So many secrets

00:25:47So many mysteries

00:25:47In the old

00:25:48Spanish newspapers

00:25:49The truth is, yes.

00:25:51It's just that after reviewing a little

00:25:52The newspapers

00:25:53From the 1950s

00:25:5460

00:25:54We met

00:25:55With what they were treated

00:25:57These cases

00:25:57As news

00:25:58Very common

00:25:59Along with the murders

00:26:01There was a news story

00:26:02From a UFO

00:26:02Or as in this case

00:26:03Today

00:26:04The one of a possessed man

00:26:05The one of a possessed man

00:26:06No more, no less

00:26:06We have even allocated

00:26:07Apart from our team

00:26:09To do new searches

00:26:11But

00:26:11What the devil?

00:26:12Never a truer word spoken

00:26:13You can participate too

00:26:15This season

00:26:16We said so

00:26:16Highly interactive

00:26:17If they have a cutback

00:26:18If they have old newspapers

00:26:20If you want to contribute

00:26:21As with the great mural

00:26:23From our photographic area

00:26:24These cuts

00:26:26So that they are not forgotten

00:26:27They already know.

00:26:27Those addresses

00:26:28Absolutely classic

00:26:30Now

00:26:30If you'll allow me

00:26:32I open the file

00:26:33From our archives

00:26:44It was not usual

00:26:45That they spoke of demon-possessed people

00:26:47There was still

00:26:47Very scared

00:26:48I'm very afraid of this topic.

00:26:49Much respect

00:26:50Regarding this matter

00:26:50From the darkness

00:26:51And the satanic

00:26:51But he said

00:26:52That I had seen

00:26:53To Satan

00:26:54Face to face

00:26:55A case

00:26:56Completely

00:26:56We were saying

00:26:57Forgotten

00:26:58Case cover

00:26:591953

00:27:00Until that date

00:27:02We have to go

00:27:02In our archive

00:27:03Front page

00:27:04From the famous

00:27:05Weekly news

00:27:06That he sold

00:27:07He even sold

00:27:08One million copies

00:27:09The possessed one

00:27:10From the Alcarria

00:27:11And here they told us

00:27:12Together with the newspaper Pueblo

00:27:13It needs to be said.

00:27:14The story

00:27:14By Antonio Barrera

00:27:15In that 53

00:27:17He became a target

00:27:18At least for a few weeks

00:27:20From a series

00:27:20Of strange phenomena

00:27:21Spontaneous combustion

00:27:23Strange visions

00:27:24Movement of objects

00:27:25Smell of sulfur

00:27:26This man lived

00:27:27In a cave

00:27:27Under conditions

00:27:28Absolutely precarious

00:27:30We're talking

00:27:31From the Guadalajara area

00:27:32From the hamlet

00:27:33From the little balcony

00:27:34And from more than 50 years ago

00:27:36And this man

00:27:37It wasn't just about

00:27:38With his testimony

00:27:39But with other people

00:27:41What were they saying?

00:27:41That is true

00:27:42That even

00:27:42They had seen him

00:27:43Levitate

00:27:43Obviously

00:27:44The people were divided

00:27:45A fraud

00:27:46A charlatan

00:27:47Or someone who had

00:27:48In your body

00:27:49The stigmas

00:27:50Of alleged assaults

00:27:51From beyond

00:27:52It's curious.

00:27:53Because of what it said

00:27:53Carmen

00:27:54This man

00:27:55Antonio Barrera

00:27:56From the little balcony

00:27:57In the Alcarria

00:27:58It was identical

00:27:59To the visions

00:27:59And aggressions

00:28:00From Father Pio

00:28:00He felt like he was going to hit.

00:28:02And many people said

00:28:03That in his humble cave

00:28:04They had seen

00:28:04As if they were

00:28:05Invisible fists

00:28:06They were hitting his face

00:28:07And

00:28:08Well

00:28:09They made him go

00:28:09A terrible torment

00:28:11Until suddenly

00:28:11That disappeared

00:28:12And perhaps I was returning to that time.

00:28:14Typical aggressions

00:28:15Of this type of case

00:28:16Aggressions that, according to him

00:28:18She had been suffering since she was 9 years old

00:28:20Until

00:28:21We see it here

00:28:21When he/she has already

00:28:22About 25

00:28:23They're going to look for him.

00:28:25The journalists

00:28:26From the case

00:28:27And they meet

00:28:28With a person

00:28:28Perfectly normal

00:28:29A humble worker

00:28:31That lived

00:28:32In a cave

00:28:33In a cave

00:28:33In which he locked himself

00:28:34Because according to Satan

00:28:36I had to stay there

00:28:37Three days

00:28:38Locked up

00:28:39So that

00:28:40I could leave him

00:28:41A little respite

00:28:42Oh dear

00:28:43Because he

00:28:44He always tells the press

00:28:46This man

00:28:46Crazy to some

00:28:48A visionary for others

00:28:48I had seen the devil

00:28:50He had described the demon

00:28:51That this was

00:28:51Very rare

00:28:53A human figure

00:28:55Even elegant

00:28:56And that it had been presented like this

00:28:57I am Satan

00:28:59In the end

00:28:59Of these stories

00:29:00In the end, nothing was left.

00:29:01Many people spoke

00:29:01Flames all around

00:29:02Under strange circumstances

00:29:04Of those attacks

00:29:06In the end

00:29:07As usual

00:29:07One day they stopped talking

00:29:09About this man

00:29:10Do you know anything more about the case?

00:29:11Our mission

00:29:12Recover these stories

00:29:14Like the possessed

00:29:15From the Alcarria

00:29:16We will do it with many

00:29:16Wonderful stories

00:29:17That occurred

00:29:18In our own country

00:29:19The drawing turned out terrible.

00:29:20Iker

00:29:20That published

00:29:21The case

00:29:22Where it was seen

00:29:24A sinister character

00:29:25With long hands

00:29:26Bony

00:29:27With the nails

00:29:28Quite long

00:29:29They are the hands

00:29:30That described

00:29:31This alleged

00:29:32Possessed

00:29:33Hands that apparently

00:29:34They placed them on his neck

00:29:35And they tried to drown him

00:29:37On more than one occasion

00:29:38Many cases of this type

00:29:39By the way

00:29:40For the possessed

00:29:41From the Alcarria

00:29:42Satan

00:29:42He always went barefoot

00:29:44In the end

00:29:44What stories?

00:29:45We will recover them.

00:29:46From our archive

00:29:47Now I'll leave you.

00:29:48With another scene

00:29:49And I say that

00:29:50Be careful

00:29:51With the case that's coming

00:29:52That's why it's last minute

00:29:53Because really

00:29:54May offend sensibilities

00:29:55As for how shocking it is

00:29:56It had been a while

00:29:57That we didn't have

00:29:57An event of this type

00:29:59With so many witnesses

00:30:00Watch it

00:30:27The scene you just saw

00:30:29It is a testimony

00:30:29That's what they told us.

00:30:30And that's how they're going to tell us about it.

00:30:32Tonight

00:30:32On our mystery ship

00:30:34Sometimes

00:30:35The enigmas have proofs

00:30:37Tangible evidence

00:30:38For example

00:30:39In this part

00:30:40That is not usually filmed

00:30:42In this part

00:30:44It's already a museum

00:30:44Of the unusual

00:30:45There is evidence

00:30:46They were documents

00:30:48Trustworthy

00:30:48The Yeti

00:30:49The Iceman

00:30:50The Lady of Nuremberg

00:30:53With its spikes

00:30:54And his torture

00:30:54Who doesn't remember?

00:30:56By John Merrick

00:30:57The Elephant Man

00:30:58His horrible illness

00:30:59And his prodigious life

00:31:00Or archaeological objects

00:31:02The Lady of Elche

00:31:03The one from Baza

00:31:04The dark-skinned Virgin

00:31:05From Montserrat

00:31:06Or the idols

00:31:08From thousands of years ago

00:31:09And what to say

00:31:10From the documents

00:31:10They talk about the other Jesus.

00:31:11Or of the miraculous heads

00:31:13That are distributed throughout Spain

00:31:14In the end

00:31:15Mysteries

00:31:15But mysteries

00:31:16That have absolute certainty

00:31:17That can be touched

00:31:18Now that we only have testimonies

00:31:20To do?

00:31:21We can believe in them

00:31:22Or simply throw them away

00:31:24And the problem is getting worse.

00:31:25When there are many testimonies

00:31:27When six, eight, ten people

00:31:29They see the same thing

00:31:29At the same time

00:31:30This is what happens in Olivenza

00:31:31In an official location

00:31:33On the same border as Portugal

00:31:36On that border

00:31:37In that land of Extremadura

00:31:39Things are happening

00:31:40And what is extraordinary

00:31:42It's not just those things or visions

00:31:44But they're going to come

00:31:45Key members

00:31:47From that official place

00:31:48I repeat

00:31:48To tell it

00:31:49But first

00:31:50All data

00:31:51The whole story

00:31:52That has collected

00:31:53Our colleague Luis Álvarez

00:31:54We opened the door

00:31:55From that place

00:31:56And we observe

00:32:00Some stories may

00:32:02They don't need explanations

00:32:04Not even from experts

00:32:07Sometimes

00:32:09The past is laid bare

00:32:10In light of the present

00:32:11And certain places

00:32:13They distill the essence

00:32:15Of the strange

00:32:16By nature

00:32:18Here

00:32:18The elderly

00:32:20They speak the same way.

00:32:20Portuguese

00:32:21That Castilian

00:32:24This small population

00:32:26In no man's land

00:32:27It stands out for its eventful history

00:32:29Their own border

00:32:32It's a ghost

00:32:35In the old convent

00:32:37From Olivenza

00:32:37Outside

00:32:38Everything seems normal.

00:32:41Inside

00:32:42Nothing seems real

00:32:55Yes, when you are

00:32:56Then

00:32:56You consider

00:32:57Oysters

00:32:59That

00:32:59You feel a tingling sensation.

00:33:01What's happening to me?

00:33:02Something strange

00:33:03That's not normal

00:33:04That's what I've been told

00:33:06It's like hearing a child cry

00:33:11A girl entered the bathroom

00:33:21And I went out to tell myself

00:33:22There was a child crying in the bathroom

00:33:24And I would tell him

00:33:24There was nobody in the bathroom

00:33:39The organ thing

00:33:40I have heard the organ

00:33:41At least twice

00:33:42And what about the girl?

00:33:43Also twice

00:33:45Like a scream

00:33:46The curious thing is that when

00:33:48I visualized

00:33:49When I looked

00:33:51Fixedly

00:33:52Directly

00:33:52I couldn't see anything.

00:33:53But when it began

00:33:55The rehearsal again

00:33:55And the door was open

00:33:58I saw it

00:33:59I saw it

00:34:00This is a school

00:34:02Of actors

00:34:03And it's special.

00:34:04For that reason alone

00:34:06It's already a special place.

00:34:07This is the convent

00:34:09From Saint John of God

00:34:10For the past 10 years

00:34:12It houses the headquarters

00:34:13From the School of Theatre

00:34:14From Extremadura

00:34:15Ten promotions

00:34:17As young people

00:34:17They have formed

00:34:18In the performing arts

00:34:19With certainty

00:34:21That they were never alone

00:34:25Under the whitewash

00:34:26From its walls

00:34:27They wait four centuries

00:34:29Of a turbulent history

00:34:31Built in 16

00:34:32In its origin

00:34:33It housed a congregation

00:34:34Of Poor Clare nuns

00:34:36On the occasion

00:34:37From the war

00:34:38Restoration

00:34:38Between Spain

00:34:39And Portugal

00:34:40The nuns

00:34:41They left the place

00:34:42Passing into hands

00:34:43Of the order

00:34:44From Saint John of God

00:34:45The convent

00:34:46It thus became

00:34:47In a military hospital

00:34:49For two centuries

00:34:50Well

00:34:51Corpses

00:34:52They have also released

00:34:53Many corpses here

00:34:55Bodies have been recovered

00:34:57The last one I saw

00:34:59There was an orange tree

00:35:00There in the courtyard

00:35:01One of the roots

00:35:03It was stuck

00:35:04The skull

00:35:04From the corpse

00:35:06There were corpses

00:35:07But

00:35:07How could they have been kicked out like that?

00:35:09All together

00:35:11That was recently

00:35:13Since when

00:35:14The elevator

00:35:15The installation of the elevator

00:35:17They dug a ditch

00:35:18Down

00:35:18Well, that's where they came out

00:35:20Many corpses

00:35:21They have been found

00:35:22Walled-up corpses

00:35:24On the ground

00:35:26And now they've just put

00:35:27The elevator

00:35:28They have also found

00:35:29Corpses

00:35:30And it lifts

00:35:31It's like Mérida

00:35:31Wherever I lift it

00:35:33You'll always find

00:35:33Roman stones

00:35:34No?

00:35:34Well, wherever I lift my hand, here.

00:35:35You'll always find yourself

00:35:36Bone

00:35:38Equal

00:35:38I can tell you

00:35:39Well

00:35:40In fact, you've already heard it

00:35:41From the mouths of other students

00:35:42That there have been teachers

00:35:44That they have had

00:35:45Some feelings

00:35:46Or they've even seen

00:35:47Or heard something

00:35:48And specifically

00:35:49A teacher

00:35:52Who is now with us

00:35:54Well, it's the one that most

00:35:56In a much more direct way

00:35:58And even more shocking

00:35:59To put it one way

00:36:00I don't know how to define it

00:36:01No?

00:36:02He has had direct experiences

00:36:04Here you will find

00:36:05The nuns' cells

00:36:06Which served as rooms

00:36:08From the military hospital

00:36:09One of the teachers

00:36:11In your charge

00:36:12She has been especially sensitive

00:36:14To the phenomena

00:36:15That afternoon

00:36:16We had a rehearsal.

00:36:17And it was very hot.

00:36:18I left the door open

00:36:23And I felt

00:36:25I felt

00:36:26And I saw

00:36:26That in accordance

00:36:28We were

00:36:29The girls

00:36:29The students

00:36:30They were rehearsing

00:36:31On stage

00:36:33And I noticed

00:36:34With the door open

00:36:35As with vision

00:36:37Open Peripheral

00:36:38I saw

00:36:39A series

00:36:40Of shadows

00:36:42Wandering

00:36:44Down the hallway

00:37:00I saw

00:37:01Some people

00:37:03Some people

00:37:04Some people dressed

00:37:05Wearing clothes like a nightgown

00:37:08With outfits like that

00:37:10Dirty

00:37:11Ragged

00:37:12And as sick people

00:37:20I remember again

00:37:22Going down the stairs

00:37:24I had another vision

00:37:25From a sick person

00:37:26Crossing

00:37:27But it crossed

00:37:29For a space

00:37:29It was from wall to wall.

00:37:40And he looked at me

00:37:41And crossed

00:37:42That's it

00:37:42Those have been

00:37:43The two visions

00:37:44That I've had there

00:37:45Stronger

00:37:56These young actors may

00:37:58They possess a special sensitivity

00:38:00That makes them more receptive

00:38:02The exercise may

00:38:04Of this beautiful profession

00:38:05Emphasize even more

00:38:07That sensitivity

00:38:13A few nights of rehearsal

00:38:15Almost all students

00:38:16They remember hearing

00:38:18Organ music

00:38:19From the chapel

00:38:20An intoxicating melody

00:38:23And a woman

00:38:25Singing

00:38:33In the next room

00:38:34One early morning

00:38:36Intense rehearsal

00:38:37Something happened

00:38:38That it was not planned

00:38:39In the script

00:38:40These young people may

00:38:42They would open the breach

00:38:44From this theater

00:38:45The one we call

00:38:47Reality

00:38:48It was an invocation

00:38:49That was done

00:38:52Within a part

00:38:53From a work

00:38:54From an essay

00:38:55Late at night

00:38:57In the early morning

00:38:58I think it was two

00:38:59The boys stayed behind.

00:39:00Let's rehearse

00:39:00With a teacher

00:39:02That day

00:39:03Precisely

00:39:03We arrived at eleven o'clock

00:39:04That day

00:39:05Around eleven

00:39:05At night

00:39:06And nothing.

00:39:07We got ready

00:39:09Let's warm up

00:39:10Change your clothes

00:39:12And so on.

00:39:12A bit

00:39:12Vocal warm-up

00:39:13And body

00:39:18It was a

00:39:20A job

00:39:21Experimental

00:39:22That we were

00:39:23Doing with a choir

00:39:24So

00:39:25Us

00:39:26We did the part

00:39:27Actural

00:39:27In certain parts

00:39:29There was a poem

00:39:30From Lorca

00:39:30And the whole thread

00:39:32Driver

00:39:32Was

00:39:33Spirits to eternity

00:39:34Eternal Spirit

00:39:36What he meant

00:39:38In our case

00:39:39To the spirit

00:39:39From the music

00:39:41As a common thread

00:39:56About two

00:39:57More or less

00:39:58In the early morning

00:39:58We started listening

00:40:00The sound

00:40:01Of an organ

00:40:03From church

00:40:07And then

00:40:08Next

00:40:10We listen

00:40:11Tone

00:40:12A song

00:40:12To some sopranos

00:40:22The exercise may

00:40:24From some disciplines

00:40:25Predispose

00:40:26Open the door

00:40:27To other worlds

00:40:28The walls

00:40:29From Saint John of God

00:40:30They guard

00:40:31A secret

00:40:32Unspeakable

00:40:34The elders say

00:40:36From Olivenza

00:40:36That many

00:40:37From their neighbors

00:40:38They were shot.

00:40:40In the courtyard

00:40:40During the civil war

00:40:42And thrown

00:40:43To the well

00:40:45The truth

00:40:46Just search

00:40:47A path

00:40:47And soon

00:40:48The foundations

00:40:50They will be removed

00:40:51This time

00:40:52In a way

00:40:53Definitive

00:40:54In the end

00:40:55This 2009

00:40:56It will open

00:40:57The new inn

00:40:58From Olivenza

00:40:59Maybe

00:41:00So

00:41:00In the early hours

00:41:02In one of his

00:41:03Thirty rooms

00:41:05You can verify it.

00:41:07Yourself

00:41:23The truth is that there are some scenes

00:41:24From the recreation of this case

00:41:26Performed by our colleague

00:41:28Manuel Romo

00:41:28That are hard to forget

00:41:29That thing about the kid

00:41:31It seems to permeate

00:41:32The unconscious of many people

00:41:33And that terrifies

00:41:34But there are people who have experienced it

00:41:35And there are also people who do their jobs.

00:41:38Completely normal

00:41:39In this place

00:41:39We were watching the report

00:41:41Everyone here is silent.

00:41:42The whole team

00:41:43And so does Lali Martínez

00:41:45Head of studies

00:41:46And art teacher

00:41:46From this place

00:41:47Like Carmen Martínez

00:41:48Interpretation teacher

00:41:50They nodded

00:41:51And I don't know if they saw it.

00:41:52In a different way

00:41:52Or even

00:41:53Knowing that there are more things

00:41:55Lali and Carmen

00:41:56Welcome

00:41:57Thank you so much

00:41:57For being here

00:41:58Thank you

00:41:59Thank you

00:41:59You were watching

00:42:01Things that impress

00:42:02But they reflect reality

00:42:03That is to say

00:42:04It's not made up.

00:42:05People

00:42:05Many have told this story

00:42:07In this place

00:42:08Yeah

00:42:09Furthermore,

00:42:10This is happening

00:42:11Continuously

00:42:12Practically

00:42:12Since the school opened

00:42:14That was in the year '98

00:42:16AND

00:42:17The thing is

00:42:19Always

00:42:20It's a constant

00:42:21The organ issue

00:42:22Of the crying child

00:42:24For the past 10 years

00:42:26This has been discussed.

00:42:26Yeah

00:42:27I think so

00:42:29From the beginning

00:42:30From school

00:42:31They are happening

00:42:32I believe these phenomena

00:42:33It's really

00:42:34I've been in school

00:42:34Three years

00:42:35But from what I know

00:42:37Yeah

00:42:37It has been experienced

00:42:38Very normally

00:42:39Normal

00:42:40Within what

00:42:41Of what is possible

00:42:42But if

00:42:43If it was common

00:42:44That someone would arrive

00:42:45And I told you

00:42:46I have heard

00:42:47To cry for someone

00:42:48There in that office

00:42:50I mean

00:42:50Which sometimes happens

00:42:51Carmen

00:42:52That of

00:42:53That people

00:42:54He gets used to it

00:42:54Although it is difficult

00:42:55But getting used to it

00:42:56Something that

00:42:56It is part of

00:42:57From history

00:42:59I think that

00:43:00Until it happens to you

00:43:00Well, a little.

00:43:02You say

00:43:02Well, maybe

00:43:03The thing is

00:43:04This

00:43:05I don't know

00:43:05He's confused

00:43:08But

00:43:08They've already passed

00:43:10Many things

00:43:10So that

00:43:12Let's not bring it up

00:43:12And let's begin

00:43:13To tell

00:43:13Among us

00:43:15Things

00:43:15Maybe

00:43:16It had happened to him

00:43:16One specifically

00:43:17And have they coincided?

00:43:18Different testimonies

00:43:19Or different people?

00:43:20Yeah

00:43:21The topic of

00:43:23Cry

00:43:23A child

00:43:24I

00:43:25I didn't know

00:43:25What a meme

00:43:27I had heard it

00:43:28And if

00:43:29Another person

00:43:30That he had worked

00:43:30In the center

00:43:32He told me.

00:43:32He came in and told me

00:43:33He came into the office

00:43:34And he tells me

00:43:34Is anyone crying there?

00:43:35The organ issue

00:43:36Also

00:43:37The organ issue

00:43:37Also

00:43:38The piano

00:43:39I mean

00:43:39That's something

00:43:40Unmistakable

00:43:40It's not a sound

00:43:41Let's say

00:43:41What someone might think

00:43:43A child's cry

00:43:44Could be

00:43:44No?

00:43:44Many people

00:43:45On an aesthetic level

00:43:45I would say

00:43:47A feline

00:43:48Whatever

00:43:48But of course

00:43:48An organ

00:43:49Playing

00:43:50It is something that also

00:43:51You

00:43:52You perfectly identify

00:43:53No?

00:43:53Because of your profession

00:43:54Yeah

00:43:55The organ issue

00:43:56And also

00:43:56It's just curious

00:43:57Because people

00:43:58Many people

00:43:59Enter the school

00:44:00And he knows nothing.

00:44:01Because really

00:44:02Outside of school

00:44:03Nor does it transcend

00:44:04Somehow

00:44:05Today we are

00:44:06Opening

00:44:07Yes, indeed.

00:44:07I actually

00:44:07When I went in there

00:44:08I didn't know anything

00:44:09It's not that people

00:44:10Go prepared.

00:44:11Or suggested

00:44:12Because I have heard

00:44:13Talk about the topic

00:44:14It's a topic

00:44:15Outside of school

00:44:16In fact

00:44:17Most of it

00:44:18From the people of Olivenza

00:44:19I believe

00:44:20They don't have much of an idea either.

00:44:21Regarding this topic

00:44:22What do we have there

00:44:23How curious

00:44:24A place

00:44:24By the way

00:44:24Olivenza

00:44:25Marvelous

00:44:25Where there have been other mysteries

00:44:26And we've counted some here

00:44:27The story of the girl

00:44:28Antonia Batista

00:44:29That too

00:44:29By the way

00:44:30That report

00:44:31From the

00:44:32Well

00:44:32From one of the first

00:44:33Spanish X-Files

00:44:34That girl from Olivenza

00:44:35Luis Álvarez did it too.

00:44:37Luis

00:44:37Welcome to this fourth season

00:44:39Good night

00:44:40How are you?

00:44:41Very good

00:44:42Impressed with this case

00:44:42You were telling me that

00:44:43I hope you enjoyed the research

00:44:45And not

00:44:46And we also appreciate the courage

00:44:47No?

00:44:47Because many people can say

00:44:48This cannot be discussed

00:44:49This is something we need to know about

00:44:50People calmly

00:44:52It is said that this is being discussed

00:44:53And that is appreciated.

00:44:55More than impressed

00:44:56Surprised

00:44:57Because the first time

00:44:58We arrived

00:44:58They spoke to us

00:44:59From that program

00:45:00What had we done

00:45:00In Millennium 3

00:45:01In which we were talking

00:45:02By Antonia Batista

00:45:03That he spoke Latin

00:45:04And that's a case

00:45:05That we issue

00:45:06About Villafranca de los Barros

00:45:07I don't know if he'll remember

00:45:08The audience

00:45:08In any case

00:45:09I didn't remember well

00:45:10The girl's name

00:45:11Latin at three months

00:45:11We need to talk.

00:45:12Latin at three months

00:45:13Indeed

00:45:13So already

00:45:15It's already with a letter

00:45:15Perfect presentation

00:45:16A good coincidence

00:45:17To start a shoot like this

00:45:19No?

00:45:20And in this case

00:45:20What's happening?

00:45:21Well, we found out

00:45:22According to the press

00:45:22None other than through the Oide of Badajoz

00:45:24We published a news article

00:45:25In which they spoke

00:45:25Of all these things

00:45:26And it was none other than Lali.

00:45:28The head of studies

00:45:28The one that confirmed all of this

00:45:30Endorsing

00:45:30That all staff

00:45:32That he was there

00:45:32Their teachers

00:45:33And his students

00:45:34Well, they had heard it

00:45:35No?

00:45:36And they had heard

00:45:36All this kind of stuff

00:45:37And as always

00:45:38A series of events were taking place

00:45:39Features

00:45:40Excellent

00:45:42They happen in a lot

00:45:43From cases we have seen

00:45:43Over the course of three years

00:45:44From the program we're following

00:45:45Iker

00:45:46And they are always the same

00:45:47There are bodies buried there

00:45:48In convents

00:45:49In monasteries

00:45:50There are people walled up.

00:45:52As is the case with this

00:45:52And we'll talk about it now.

00:45:54And there's an added bonus.

00:45:56Which I believe is fundamental

00:45:58And that's because

00:45:59These people who work here

00:46:00They are actors

00:46:01And they are constantly

00:46:02Pushing themselves to the limit

00:46:03From psychology

00:46:05Exploring himself

00:46:06It is very likely

00:46:06Or it's one of the things

00:46:08From a psychological perspective

00:46:08Perhaps they will be addressed

00:46:10That when taken to that extreme

00:46:11To that limit

00:46:11Be more receptive

00:46:12To what possibly

00:46:14It might have been impregnated there

00:46:15A very interesting hypothesis

00:46:16And now we're going to ask them

00:46:18To our friends

00:46:18What else

00:46:19What else is there to say?

00:46:20What else is there to say?

00:46:21What else has been felt there

00:46:22But first we present

00:46:23To our dear friend

00:46:24Santiago Vázquez

00:46:25It had been a while since I'd been here.

00:46:26Around these parts

00:46:27From the mystery ship

00:46:28Welcome friend

00:46:29Hi Iker

00:46:30Good night

00:46:30Well, a textbook case.

00:46:31But with such a quantity

00:46:33Of things

00:46:33Of visions

00:46:34But a different factor

00:46:35That we had never considered it

00:46:37Santi

00:46:37That might be interesting

00:46:38And now we open the debate

00:46:39It is the special sensitivity

00:46:40From the people

00:46:41That is linked to art

00:46:42No?

00:46:42In sea

00:46:43To the interpretation

00:46:44To the dance

00:46:44These are people who have

00:46:45I believe

00:46:46This isn't very scientific either.

00:46:47But I don't know

00:46:48A soul membrane

00:46:49Different, isn't it?

00:46:51It's a very interesting case

00:46:52Because firstly

00:46:54There are many witnesses

00:46:55This is a very important piece of information

00:46:57To point out

00:46:57And not usual

00:46:58Exactly

00:46:59And on the other hand

00:47:01Phenomenology

00:47:02There is a lot of phenomenology

00:47:04I have studied

00:47:05In the end

00:47:06The report

00:47:07And so on

00:47:08And there are many phenomena

00:47:09Very interesting

00:47:10Many of them

00:47:11That we can be

00:47:12Perhaps the entire program

00:47:12Speaking of

00:47:13Which one catches your eye the most?

00:47:14Good

00:47:15You were talking earlier

00:47:16From the organ

00:47:17That case of the organ

00:47:19Which could very well be

00:47:20Or a mimophony

00:47:22The jargon of parapsychology

00:47:24It's called mimophony

00:47:25Yeah

00:47:25Mimophony is

00:47:26That the paranormal cause

00:47:28Play a sound

00:47:29That it does not exist

00:47:30But of course

00:47:31Nor can it be ruled out

00:47:32That is not the case

00:47:33In question

00:47:34How are you

00:47:34It's that someone

00:47:35Directly

00:47:36Due to pressure

00:47:37Play that organ

00:47:38This has also happened

00:47:39Here we truly open the debate

00:47:40Santi

00:47:40Because I think that's it

00:47:41And you told the story, Luis

00:47:42That there is no organ

00:47:42There is no organ

00:47:43There is no organ

00:47:44Clear

00:47:44This is a crucial issue

00:47:47There is currently no organ

00:47:48There was an organ

00:47:49There was an organ

00:47:50How curious

00:47:51And people listen

00:47:53The organ

00:47:54And the piano

00:47:55Yes, there are

00:47:55But come on

00:47:56It doesn't make sense.

00:47:57There is a piano, really.

00:47:58But there is no organ

00:47:59In that case we would talk

00:48:01In short

00:48:02If there is no organ

00:48:03Well, we would talk

00:48:03Of a phenomenon

00:48:05Of mimophony

00:48:06That occurs

00:48:07Or in haunted places

00:48:08Or in places

00:48:09Where phenomena occur

00:48:10Of the poltergeist type

00:48:11But of course

00:48:11Here we find yet another element

00:48:13What are formations?

00:48:14Ghostly and spectral

00:48:15Therefore, it is not a poltergeist.

00:48:17We are facing a case

00:48:18Crystal clear

00:48:19The child

00:48:19The visions

00:48:20From some people

00:48:21Exactly

00:48:21The child's situation is another matter.

00:48:23Another interesting fact

00:48:24And it's true

00:48:25And what you said is true

00:48:26Because it has been proven

00:48:28Statistically speaking

00:48:30For purely incidental reasons

00:48:31Where there is emotion

00:48:33An awakened emotion

00:48:35Clear

00:48:37The paranormal cause

00:48:38It's as if he felt

00:48:39At ease

00:48:39It's like acting

00:48:41In one way

00:48:42A lot more

00:48:42We can put it like this.

00:48:44More obvious

00:48:59The rest would be

00:49:00Audible phenomena

00:49:01What's it called

00:49:02Yeah

00:49:02Indeed

00:49:03The rest is the organ

00:49:04The soprano

00:49:05Blows

00:49:05At the door

00:49:06The last day

00:49:07Knocks on the door

00:49:08Yeah

00:49:09A knock on the door

00:49:11Type of blows

00:49:12As if it were called

00:49:13It's another classic.

00:49:14Another classic

00:49:15That was also

00:49:17The last day

00:49:17The day they were doing

00:49:18The essay

00:49:20The second year course

00:49:21For assembly

00:49:23No

00:49:23Third

00:49:24Third

00:49:25The third assembly

00:49:25They locked themselves in

00:49:26They were alone

00:49:27Completely

00:49:28It was also a Sunday

00:49:28In the afternoon

00:49:30They went to rehearse

00:49:31Because we had

00:49:32An open representation

00:49:34To all the people

00:49:35I would like to go

00:49:35And they locked themselves in.

00:49:36In the interpretation classroom

00:49:37In the one below

00:49:39And they were alone

00:49:40And they locked themselves inside.

00:49:42And they heard

00:49:43What did they call

00:49:44At the door

00:49:45They opened

00:49:46And logically

00:49:46There was nobody there

00:49:47They thought it was going to be

00:49:48Carmen

00:49:49That next

00:49:50I had an essay

00:49:50For the assembly of the room

00:49:52And then they didn't give it to him.

00:49:53The least important

00:49:54But then they saw

00:49:55What is it that no

00:49:55There was nobody there

00:49:56They were alone

00:49:57In it

00:49:58Something that

00:49:59It demands attention

00:50:00You're talking to me about a watch

00:50:00Also

00:50:01You were talking about a watch

00:50:02Or other phenomena

00:50:03Even

00:50:03That we haven't told

00:50:04In the report

00:50:05The clock issue

00:50:06That one day

00:50:07I was

00:50:07She was head of studies

00:50:08So

00:50:08And they came and told me

00:50:10That it has broken

00:50:11The clock

00:50:11From the body classroom

00:50:12I say then

00:50:14Change the battery

00:50:15You say it's already been changed

00:50:17And I say

00:50:18And what happens

00:50:19It stops at 6

00:50:20It stops forever at 6

00:50:21It stopped at 6

00:50:23We changed the battery

00:50:24Normal

00:50:26And the clock

00:50:27It worked

00:50:28And it stopped again

00:50:29I say, well then

00:50:30Change the clock

00:50:31Because maybe

00:50:32The clock is broken

00:50:33They changed the clock

00:50:34And the next day

00:50:35They come and tell me

00:50:37Carmen

00:50:37The clock has stopped

00:50:39At 6

00:50:40And I told him

00:50:41And I told him

00:50:42Well then

00:50:42Change the clock

00:50:42Wall mounted

00:50:44I don't know.

00:50:45Just in case it was a question

00:50:46Magnetic

00:50:47Or I don't know

00:50:48And he moved it to another wall.

00:50:49And the clock is working now.

00:50:51There is one thing that should be

00:50:53I think it's worth highlighting

00:50:54For me, the most important thing

00:50:55It's not just that procession

00:50:56Of spectra

00:50:57What does he see?

00:50:58Tamara

00:50:59The teacher

00:50:59He was telling us

00:51:00On camera

00:51:01But

00:51:02The fact that

00:51:03The first time that

00:51:04Listen to that organ

00:51:04When that organ does not exist

00:51:06And that delicate voice

00:51:07Of a soprano

00:51:07Carmen also said

00:51:09That is here

00:51:09Which is one of the

00:51:10They witnessed this phenomenon

00:51:11For the first time

00:51:12It was a very sweet voice.

00:51:13A beautiful voice

00:51:14She was even more beautiful.

00:51:15That the assembly itself

00:51:17What they were doing

00:51:18In his own voice

00:51:19Please tell us about that.

00:51:20Because it seems to us

00:51:20First, the set design

00:51:22Of all history

00:51:22As you have described it

00:51:23Which is wonderful

00:51:24What is

00:51:24What are you doing, a kind of

00:51:25Of invocation

00:51:26But within the music world

00:51:26It was a job with a choir

00:51:30And we were carrying

00:51:31The acting part

00:51:31There were four actors

00:51:34And work was done.

00:51:37Vocal research

00:51:38Over whispers

00:51:41Different voices

00:51:42And the argument

00:51:43From history

00:51:45That carried sacred music

00:51:47And so on.

00:51:47But we

00:51:47We weren't working on music.

00:51:48We were working

00:51:49The acting theme

00:51:51Was

00:51:52The spirit cannot die

00:51:54And I remember perfectly.

00:51:56Because there was

00:51:56There was a repeat

00:51:57What did he say?

00:51:58The spirit cannot die

00:51:59The spirit cannot die

00:52:01And it was repeated several times

00:52:03In an almost mantric way

00:52:06While maintaining the tones

00:52:08As a circular

00:52:09And they would turn on me

00:52:10My hair stood on end.

00:52:12And then I

00:52:13I started listening

00:52:14A piano outside

00:52:15But we're so used to it.

00:52:17In

00:52:17What is a piano?

00:52:18A piano

00:52:18First I hear a piano

00:52:21There's a lot of habit. ...

00:52:22From hearing noises

00:52:23Music

00:52:24Such

00:52:24The point is that

00:52:25It was

00:52:26The morning heat

00:52:28I didn't consider it.

00:52:29After

00:52:30I started listening

00:52:31An organ

00:52:31Made of tubes

00:52:32And they always ask me

00:52:33Could it be an electric organ?

00:52:36No

00:52:36An electric organ

00:52:37It has a sound

00:52:38And a pipe organ

00:52:39It has a different sound

00:52:42Distinguishable

00:52:42And a soprano

00:52:44And we continue working

00:52:46And it was truly beautiful.

00:52:48It wasn't something terrifying

00:52:51Or dreadful

00:52:52Until a colleague

00:52:54He tells me

00:52:54Are you listening to what I'm hearing?

00:52:56And then

00:52:57I became aware

00:52:58That that wasn't

00:53:00Normal

00:53:01Normal because

00:53:02You've already seen

00:53:03What is the convent like?

00:53:04In the classroom where we are

00:53:07The thing is

00:53:08No sound from outside gets in.

00:53:10And in the surrounding areas

00:53:11There is no

00:53:12At two in the morning

00:53:13There are no people

00:53:15Like putting in a CD

00:53:16Or is it that we can't hear it?

00:53:17It's because you get into that.

00:53:18You close the door

00:53:19And it can't be heard

00:53:19You can hear the little animals

00:53:21The little birds

00:53:21And the sounds of the countryside

00:53:24Notice that

00:53:25Because I remember

00:53:25I don't know if I should remind you

00:53:27When we did that

00:53:27Report on Roslin

00:53:29We brought those musicians

00:53:30On set

00:53:31That was being talked about

00:53:31Of the tempered frequency

00:53:32And when they told me

00:53:34This experience

00:53:34When they were talking to me

00:53:35From this

00:53:35The first thing that came to mind

00:53:37That's the theory.

00:53:39Which says that when

00:53:39The sounds

00:53:40They are launched

00:53:41Or they are issued

00:53:42At different frequencies

00:53:43They can cause

00:53:44An expansion

00:53:44In consciousness

00:53:45And it's very likely

00:53:46Or it's one of the explanations

00:53:47More scientists

00:53:48What can we find?

00:53:49Within psychology

00:53:50Which suggests that perhaps

00:53:51That's the door

00:53:52That opens

00:53:53It is the moment when

00:53:53They are working

00:53:54With the voice

00:53:55At different frequencies

00:53:56Repeating rhythmic sounds

00:53:57Again and again

00:53:58When suddenly

00:53:59They start to hear something

00:54:00It seems to be coming

00:54:01On another level

00:54:01That's the closest thing.

00:54:03That I found

00:54:04To the explanation

00:54:05More scientific

00:54:06What can we find?

00:54:06I believe

00:54:07Throughout this

00:54:07And in the bibliography

00:54:08Santiago

00:54:08There are stories

00:54:09From listening to those chants

00:54:11Even record them

00:54:13I to many

00:54:13I say the word classic

00:54:14I mean classic.

00:54:15To the books

00:54:16Of metasipsychic

00:54:17From the beginning

00:54:19They were talking

00:54:19People were talking

00:54:20From a song

00:54:22That they had never

00:54:23Even specialists

00:54:25They had never heard

00:54:26And that it was harmonious

00:54:27And that on some occasions

00:54:28It had even been possible to record

00:54:29Psychologically

00:54:31It's a phenomenon

00:54:31From clairaudience

00:54:32Clareaudience

00:54:33Indeed

00:54:33There is a case

00:54:35Whose place

00:54:36I'm going to mute

00:54:37Because it is an official body

00:54:40Where formerly

00:54:41It was an old monastery

00:54:43Benedictine

00:54:44And in the cloister

00:54:46One of the corners

00:54:48There

00:54:49Well, the monks

00:54:50They met

00:54:51To sing

00:54:52Well, a person

00:54:54That I knew

00:54:54The one I interviewed

00:54:55On two occasions

00:54:57Twice

00:54:58He heard perfectly clearly

00:55:00As if I were

00:55:01Then

00:55:01The entire choir

00:55:03Of monks

00:55:04Singing

00:55:05He was able to hear it

00:55:06It is ruled out.

00:55:07The hallucination

00:55:09Because he didn't know

00:55:10That's where they sang

00:55:11It's interesting.

00:55:12Say it

00:55:13Is it a classic?

00:55:16Yeah

00:55:16The question is

00:55:17Because?

00:55:18That is to say

00:55:18There is a jump

00:55:20Between the time

00:55:21Spacetime

00:55:22A door opens

00:55:23That we

00:55:24It connects with a past

00:55:25From something that was heard

00:55:26In that place

00:55:27In the past

00:55:28Or as he pointed out

00:55:29Very good, Luis.

00:55:30There's an explanation.

00:55:31More scientific

00:55:33Equally mysterious

00:55:35Exactly

00:55:35Equally mysterious

00:55:36Or is it that

00:55:37The paranormal cause

00:55:38One more time

00:55:39It is playing

00:55:40A sound

00:55:41Which evidently

00:55:42Rationally

00:55:42We don't know

00:55:43How does it do it?

00:55:43But also

00:55:44It's a hypothesis

00:55:45That cannot be lost

00:55:45From a point of view

00:55:46And by the way

00:55:47It needs to be said.

00:55:48People cry

00:55:49Absolutely normal

00:55:50That it has nothing

00:55:51What to gain

00:55:51I believe

00:55:51Assuming he's seen this

00:55:52You know it

00:55:53Quite the opposite

00:55:54They can always say

00:55:56Gee

00:55:57I don't know what

00:55:57Because it's a little

00:55:58Ignorance

00:55:59Nobody wins anything.

00:56:00With this story

00:56:01Just by telling it

00:56:02It's because it's something

00:56:03What is happening

00:56:03The thing is

00:56:04Organ Day

00:56:06There were six of us

00:56:06And all six of us listened to it.

00:56:08And about the laughter

00:56:10From the child's cry

00:56:11Many people

00:56:12And that the other day

00:56:14They told me

00:56:15What came out in the video

00:56:16The thing about the hand through the curtain

00:56:18That has happened too

00:56:19That which we have seen in the image

00:56:20It really happened

00:56:21Yeah

00:56:21I

00:56:22No

00:56:23I didn't know

00:56:25I mean

00:56:25I found out two days ago

00:56:26Says

00:56:27Well, they were upstairs.

00:56:28AND

00:56:28And two people saw it.

00:56:30And it's people

00:56:31Three people saw him

00:56:31Believe

00:56:32Three people

00:56:33They were giving a class

00:56:34They were in a class

00:56:35Of interpretation

00:56:36And it was

00:56:37The professor

00:56:38AND

00:56:39Three students

00:56:40AND

00:56:41The student

00:56:42That I was doing the exercise

00:56:43He was facing away

00:56:44Because on stage

00:56:46From the class

00:56:47From the classroom upstairs

00:56:47Have

00:56:48It is surrounded by curtains

00:56:49Black

00:56:50AND

00:56:51They were all there

00:56:52Clear

00:56:52Face to face

00:56:53To the student

00:56:54That I was doing the exercise

00:56:55And behind

00:56:56They saw as if

00:56:57One hand

00:56:58It will pass through the curtain

00:57:00Moving the curtain

00:57:01Behind

00:57:02And there are no windows.

00:57:03There was no current of any kind

00:57:05And there was nothing.

00:57:06And they saw it

00:57:07I think it was

00:57:08At least three people

00:57:09It's just one thing

00:57:09What is a teacher?

00:57:10Many in the people

00:57:11It's not a thing

00:57:11Teachers, students

00:57:12Indistinctly

00:57:13Yes, yes, yes

00:57:14And one thing

00:57:14Because I think that's interesting

00:57:15Luis is

00:57:16Well, if possible

00:57:17Continue investigating

00:57:18And hopefully

00:57:20Let's find out something

00:57:20Or do some kind

00:57:22Search

00:57:23But seeing a little

00:57:24The information

00:57:25One key thing

00:57:26There is fear.

00:57:26That is to say

00:57:27How far

00:57:28It is the restlessness

00:57:28Curiosity

00:57:29Initially

00:57:30I imagine so too

00:57:31Not believing it

00:57:31Because at the beginning

00:57:32He always believes it

00:57:33Until it happens to you

00:57:35But there has been fear

00:57:35Have you felt uneasy?

00:57:36In this place?

00:57:37I never

00:57:38Never

00:57:39It's more

00:57:39I was telling Luis

00:57:40That I am one of the places

00:57:41Where I feel most comfortable

00:57:42And more peaceful

00:57:42I've found myself working

00:57:44And my office

00:57:45He has seen it

00:57:46I was in a dark place

00:57:49People were afraid of him

00:57:50Go up there

00:57:52They were calling me out.

00:57:53From the end of the corridor

00:57:54To see if I was

00:57:55To exit

00:57:55I never

00:57:57I haven't felt any kind

00:57:58Of unease

00:57:59Quite the opposite

00:58:00That's interesting.

00:58:00Because it is also

00:58:01You felt comfortable

00:58:02In this place

00:58:03Yes, yes

00:58:03A lot

00:58:03Lot

00:58:04Very interesting

00:58:05Carmen

00:58:06We're going to leave there

00:58:07I'm going to leave with a heavy heart.

00:58:08I am a place

00:58:09That you feel comfortable

00:58:10And we're fine.

00:58:12If I think about it

00:58:13I get scared

00:58:13But I need to think about it.

00:58:15It scared you more

00:58:15See the report

00:58:16Yes, it scared me more

00:58:17But you have to

00:58:18You're scaring yourself.

00:58:20You say

00:58:20Oh, but really

00:58:22But it is also true

00:58:23Another thing

00:58:24Tamara, for example

00:58:26Something that doesn't come out

00:58:27In the report

00:58:27He told me

00:58:29That she

00:58:30Because she initially

00:58:31I knew nothing about the story

00:58:32I think when he entered

00:58:33I didn't know what it was about

00:58:35And she wasn't feeling well

00:58:37She wasn't feeling well.

00:58:38To the point

00:58:39That he didn't want to go to work

00:58:41He felt as if it were sucking him in.

00:58:42Energy

00:58:43She felt unwell.

00:58:45I felt unwell

00:58:46He actually took

00:58:47An office

00:58:47At the top

00:58:48And it never was

00:58:49Never

00:58:50He never returned

00:58:51Entering the office

00:58:52And things escalated

00:58:55Until it started

00:58:55Already having the visions

00:58:57It really is a story

00:58:58We are always surprised

00:59:00And Spain always gives us

00:59:01Evidence that

00:59:02In this case

00:59:03There are sufficient elements

00:59:05But extremely important

00:59:06People who have no fear

00:59:08Because you don't need to have it.

00:59:09To tell

00:59:09Simple facts

00:59:10Hopefully we can discover

00:59:11What are they really?

00:59:12And we will try

00:59:13And we will try

00:59:13With all your help

00:59:13The truth is that above all

00:59:15Thank you

00:59:15Thank you for opening your doors to us.

00:59:17From this wonderful place

00:59:18Because of all your testimony

00:59:19And for being here

00:59:20Lali Carmen

00:59:21Thanks a lot

00:59:22Thank you

00:59:23Santiago Vázquez

00:59:24Buddy

00:59:24Further investigation is needed.

00:59:25Of course

00:59:25We will.

00:59:27Thank you so much

00:59:27And I hope to see you around.

00:59:29Many times this season

00:59:30You know it's a pleasure.

00:59:31Always be here with us

00:59:32Thanks Santi

00:59:32Good night

00:59:33And Luis Álvarez

00:59:34What can I say?

00:59:34We have already started the procedures

00:59:36And hopefully we'll have some surprises.

00:59:37Thanks Luis

00:59:38Thank you so much

00:59:38And now I would like

00:59:39Make a comment

00:59:41Stay tuned

00:59:41But first

00:59:42Remember these images

00:59:43Because of course

00:59:44They are hard to forget.

01:00:13Make a comment

01:00:18Tonight the undeniable

01:00:19Relationship between archaeology

01:00:21And the supernatural

01:00:22She has been a protagonist

01:00:23As part of the program

01:00:24And I would like to

01:00:25And I had it pending.

01:00:26Tell them a story

01:00:27Kinder

01:00:28To say goodbye

01:00:28One of those stories

01:00:30That happen in our country

01:00:31Very close

01:00:31And with authentic wonders

01:00:33Unfortunately

01:00:34In other countries of the world

01:00:35They would have real museums

01:00:37Rooms just for them

01:00:38And that's good.

01:00:39They are not very well known

01:00:40Except in environments

01:00:42Rather specialized

01:00:43And that's a shame.

01:00:43For example

01:00:45I invite people

01:00:47That it approaches Cadiz

01:00:48And the people of Cádiz themselves

01:00:48Get to know them well

01:00:49These sarcophagi

01:00:50These wonders

01:00:51They hold a mystery

01:00:52And a beautiful story

01:00:53It depends on how you look at it

01:00:54This incredible piece

01:00:57This sarcophagus

01:00:58ancient Phoenician

01:00:59It appeared in the vicinity

01:01:00From Cadiz

01:01:01At the end of the 19th century

01:01:02Approximately

01:01:03And it caused quite a stir

01:01:04A commotion

01:01:04Important

01:01:05International

01:01:06It could have been

01:01:07An unknown king

01:01:08Whoever was in there

01:01:09He also had

01:01:10Some valuables

01:01:12In the end

01:01:12The story I want to tell you

01:01:14It has to do with the person

01:01:15That is in these investigations

01:01:16In the excavations

01:01:17Pelayos Quintero

01:01:18He is a man in authority.

01:01:20That almost from the beginning

01:01:21He starts saying that

01:01:22What does it feel like?

01:01:23That he senses

01:01:23That there has to be

01:01:24Another figure

01:01:26Female

01:01:27Accompanying

01:01:27This male figure

01:01:29But they don't believe him.

01:01:30The competent authority

01:01:31From that time

01:01:32He says that's good.

01:01:33Which are ideas

01:01:33What are they based on?

01:01:34And he said

01:01:35That indeed

01:01:36Not just because of the studies

01:01:38But something told him

01:01:39I felt something

01:01:40That there had to be

01:01:41Another female sarcophagus

01:01:43A couple

01:01:44This size

01:01:45And of this kind

01:01:46She was little known

01:01:48It would be an incredible wonder

01:01:49It would have given him international fame

01:01:51This man

01:01:52Time passed

01:01:53A long time

01:01:54And in 1980

01:01:56Almost a century later

01:01:57And very recently

01:01:58At an archaeological level

01:01:59In the town center itself

01:02:01From Cadiz

01:02:02In one of the areas

01:02:03Old towns of Cadiz

01:02:04Almost sandwiched

01:02:06It appears miraculously

01:02:07In some works

01:02:08This figure

01:02:10The couple

01:02:11From the male sarcophagus

01:02:13Your companion

01:02:15In eternity

01:02:15Because those eyes

01:02:16They are undoubtedly looking

01:02:17To the other world

01:02:18Also with some perfumes

01:02:20And some valuable objects

01:02:21Also with that grandeur

01:02:23And with those hands

01:02:24Disproportionate

01:02:25As if they were indicating

01:02:26Something we no longer know how to read.

01:02:27It was evidently

01:02:29The other piece

01:02:29What was missing

01:02:30The one she dreamed of so much

01:02:31Pelayos Quintero

01:02:33In the year 80

01:02:34All the covers

01:02:34They were talking about this discovery.

01:02:35And some forgot

01:02:37From a small detail

01:02:39Do you know where it was found?

01:02:40The figure?

01:02:41Under the ground

01:02:42Although he never knew it

01:02:44Where he slept

01:02:46Exactly at his house

01:02:48Under his own bed

01:02:49A couple of meters away

01:02:51From the ground

01:02:52Perhaps by saying something to him

01:02:54It existed for thousands of years

01:02:55Who knows?

01:02:56The other sarcophagus

01:02:57The one he dreamed of

01:02:58Sometimes archaeology

01:03:00It seems to be speaking to us.

01:03:01TRUE?

01:03:02Think about it

01:03:03I'll be waiting for you.

01:03:04In seven days

01:03:05With many more questions

01:03:06And many more dreams

01:03:08Here as always

01:03:09On the mystery ship

Cuarto Milenio - 4x01 - El monasterio encantado - Parte 2 - HD 1080

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