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California alt-rockers Hoobastank scored the biggest hit of their career with 2003’s “The Reason,” which topped Billboard’s Alternative Airplay chart and climbed all the way to No. 2 on the Billboard Hot 100. Recently, lead singer Douglas Robb and guitarist Dan Estrin stopped by Genius to unpack the song’s lyrics and answer questions like, “Who is the reason, exactly?” Robb also reveals the slight grammatical mistake in the first verse that’s haunted him for years.

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00:00People would ask like, well, who is the reason? At one point, I said, I don't know, it wasn't about
00:04anybody. And they said back to me, well, then it's about you. You're the only common denominator in
00:10all this thing. For me, it was like an epiphany. I'm like, oh my God, you're right. It is about
00:14me.
00:21In my noodling around and trying different things, I kind of came up with
00:24the initial guitar part that you would hear in the song. I burnt a CD back then
00:29with a bunch of different song ideas on it. And all those songs ended up on the Reason album.
00:34And it was just one of them. It didn't really strike me as anything special, as in like different,
00:39like it was good, but as good as the rest. People get so excited when they hear the
00:44intro of the song. I think of the performing it live. And for me, it's always the opening line.
00:51I'm not a perfect person. There are many things I wish I didn't do,
00:57but I continue learning. I never meant to do those things to you. And so I have to say before
01:03I go
01:05that I just want you to know. On the album, it says, there's many things I wish I didn't do.
01:10I don't know how I let that slip. I know there are many things. So it's there are many things.
01:15So even
01:15when I sing it live, I try to do the grammatically correct version of it, but that's something that's
01:20bothered me forever. I'm sorry that I hurt you. It's something I must live with every day and all
01:29the pain I put you through. I wish that I could take it all away and be the one who
01:34catches all
01:35your tears. That's why I need you to hear. I find it fascinating how much the lyrics have been
01:42deconstructed and analyzed and stuff like that. Like it has accountability and there's an apology
01:47and stuff like that. And in no way was I thinking that at the time, like I need to write
01:52a second
01:53verse that's going to hold me account. Like I like that people can dig deeper and see stuff that I
01:58might've been feeling, but not consciously like expressing. Dan, what's the course? You know the
02:04course, right? Found a reason for me to change who I used to be. A reason to start over new.
02:16I'm not a poet. I did okay in English in high school, but there was a poem that I had
02:23written
02:23where it was kind of that she, you know, she does this or, or, you know, he does this and
02:31it ended in
02:31you are that. I always liked the format and I feel like I might've even tried similar things on songs
02:37prior. And then it kind of just worked, you know, it fit perfectly for this. I don't know what drew
02:43me to that structure in high school, you know, but what if it didn't, I think about that kind of
02:49stuff, you know, all that kind of like sliding doors thing, like one little thing changes the,
02:53the, the course of not only our lives, but anybody who's felt the song and, and had it affect them.
03:03And the reason is you. And the reason is you. And the reason is you. And the reason is you.
03:11And the reason is you. I like a good bridge. I never really thought about it before, but, uh,
03:16I like a bridge that takes you somewhere else. I like that. Now this isn't one of them,
03:21like this is a pretty straightforward bridge, but I've, I'm a fan of bridges that totally are a scene
03:27change, key change, vibe change, the whole thing. And if you can just kind of go out on that on
03:33like
03:33a different tangent and somehow weave in like elements of the first half of the song. Awesome.
03:40But if you can also somehow turn that ship around and, and, and, and like stick the landing and get
03:46back to like your main point of the song, like that's cool. That's like really satisfying for me.
03:51I found a reason to show a side of me. You didn't know a reason for all that I do.
03:58And the reason is
03:59you. I would say my favorite part of the song is the, the very end of the song, uh, right
04:06when we
04:07finished. No, it's, um, it's the last lines of the song. You hear the chorus three times, but the last
04:14part of it is a new set of lyrics. I like that you're still getting the same melody, but now
04:19you're
04:19getting new, new words. Like he's, you're kind of completing it, you know, it is kind of like a
04:24nice little bow on the song. You know, I think what that song means to me now, just how lucky
04:31we
04:31are to do it. Like if we didn't have that song, that song allows us to continue to still have
04:35a
04:35career in music and get to do what we love to do without the, the, this song there could have
04:43been
04:43moments where we're like, you know what, maybe we should just, maybe we should take a break, you know,
04:47maybe we should stop doing this, but it was kind of this like responsibility. It's like having a
04:52child, right? Like maybe we should break up and we can't, we got to save it for the kids. Like,
04:57you know what I mean? Like, and that's not the greatest idea all this time, but, but as an
05:01analogy, it was this thing that was like, we still have to take care of this thing. You know, let's
05:05put
05:05our issues aside or let's work even better. So let's work through these. Let's like grow as human
05:10beings and as a band, which we have having to do a bunch of interviews asking like, are you excited
05:19about its resurgence? We're cynical, you know? And I feel like our initial reaction was like texting
05:26each other. Like what the fuck is this?
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