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Doc Walker joins the show to tell the guys why he is extremely concerned with Washington's start to the season.
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00:00We all need a doctor in our lives, and we're lucky to have one.
00:03Rick Doc Walker on the line.
00:04Hello, D.O.C.
00:05What's up, Rick?
00:07Brothers, I'm good, man.
00:09I just, once again, here to fill in for you,
00:11and I just hope if they ever win a game, I get the same call.
00:15You will.
00:16We call you all the time, Doc.
00:18JP called you that night.
00:20I did try to call you last night.
00:23Hey, man, you got to look at the time.
00:26A little bit of our time might have got cut.
00:30Short, a strobe.
00:31Blame strobes.
00:32Okay.
00:32I'm just saying.
00:33You can't yell at me today.
00:35If it's short, it is my strobe.
00:38Doc, I know you care about the players that are on the field, right?
00:43But what did it feel like for you watching Jaden go down last night?
00:49It's not good, but I didn't panic because we had Mariota,
00:53and I didn't think that we would lose the game just because of his absence.
00:59Because, really, everybody on this team has shown that we haven't found a winning
01:04combination yet, and that's what we got to do.
01:07They got to find a way to get the right combination so they can actually win a game.
01:12And that's all that matters.
01:13We know the sport.
01:14I was kicking myself in the rear end as I told strobes on postgame.
01:19I never once even said, why did this kid not have at least a band or a brace on his
01:25elbow
01:25since that was the elbow?
01:27Why is that elbow naked if it's not 100%?
01:31It seems like it's a flawed part at this point, and why wasn't that addressed?
01:35But it's too late for that because I got to move on because we got the Seahawks coming in
01:41this week, so this is going to be a pity-patty, crybaby session about something none of us
01:47can control.
01:48They picked the people.
01:50We should have backups.
01:51If we don't, this is going to cost some people their jobs.
01:54In the meantime, we got a game this week.
01:56So what is it going to be?
01:59What did you think of the decision to go for it third and goal from the one rather than
02:03take the points?
02:04Go live with strobes.
02:06We're in the studio, and I said, I'm taking three because I don't trust my personnel enough
02:15yet.
02:16We can't get a toss pitch connected.
02:19We are not connected.
02:21How do you get connected when you never play?
02:25So you're looking at like a baseball pitcher in spring training.
02:29Do I want him to go now?
02:30No.
02:30Well, he showed me he can't.
02:32They're not ready for prime time.
02:34So I got to try to fake this thing out as much as I can and hope because right now
02:40they got to pray because they can't control the destiny.
02:44They're not prepared enough.
02:46Doc, they had a lot of plays that came up short.
02:50De'Ami Brown, I thought one knee.
02:54Their referees always say one knee equals two feet.
02:57He got a knee down.
02:58He got a knee down.
02:59Yeah, you're right about that.
03:00Not in Dallas.
03:01The one tear in the back of the end zone.
03:02Another one they missed, Traylon Birch.
03:05I mean, was Williams missed?
03:08Have you seen that many big plays missed?
03:12No, but it's Dallas.
03:13In other words, you in a bad neighborhood and you don't expect to get heckled?
03:18You know where you're at.
03:20Some of these are just fundamentals that we not got the pitch.
03:23How do you explain the pitch?
03:24You were back and a quarterback.
03:26Well, what I saw, I saw Bill going for a handoff until the ball was pitched.
03:31Then he tried to adjust.
03:32It was too late.
03:35So he was confused about the play.
03:37Somebody was confused on that play.
03:39Somebody was confused about something for sure.
03:40Okay.
03:41Okay.
03:42Well, them three plays in Detroit.
03:44See, I can't get over it.
03:46I can't get off it.
03:46I'm not mature enough to progress beyond that.
03:51This is not a game that technology, I don't think, favors.
03:55Some of this old school stuff actually affects the game in a way.
04:01But we can't go back.
04:03Can't get it back.
04:04Question is, do you honestly believe we can beat Seattle?
04:10And if you do, then that's what we got to get focused on.
04:13How do we beat them?
04:14What can we do better that they can stop us?
04:18We've all seen them.
04:19Because if not, guys, you know what the outcome it is.
04:22You already know what time it is.
04:24The question is, are they going to be able to save themselves?
04:28Doc, my biggest concern, while the world was freaking out about the offensive line,
04:33my biggest concern coming out of camp was the secondary.
04:36And I feel like those concerns have been validated.
04:40What do you see from this secondary?
04:43I mean, Dak Prescott, I don't know.
04:46I just told B the numbers in his career against Washington.
04:4814-2 in 16 games.
04:51I mean, Dak yesterday was in complete control of the game, did whatever he wanted.
04:55That first drive was just a joke.
04:58How do you fix this defense?
05:01In Philly, it was just explosives.
05:03They were pretty good down after down, but they gave up explosives.
05:06Yesterday, the rush defense was good.
05:08Give them credit for that.
05:09But the secondary is getting shredded.
05:12Yeah.
05:12Well, here's the part that my brain's not developed enough to figure out.
05:18Dallas can't beat anybody at the end of the year.
05:22So maybe you should take a look at that, what the people do to play them around the playoff time.
05:29How can a team be so good in one area and so bad in everything else?
05:33So whatever they were doing to beat Dallas, they never win in prime time.
05:38I would investigate that.
05:40We had a little bit of pressure, but not consistent.
05:42We let two skinny poles at wide receiver dominate us like they were fullbacks.
05:47I honestly do not get it.
05:49We had some movement, some pressure, but obviously not enough.
05:54I'm still trying to learn them as well because it's new.
05:57It's only been two weeks.
05:58Ken Law flashed, but again, somebody told me he's hurt again.
06:02Yeah, he did get hurt.
06:04Okay.
06:04So he's hurt again.
06:06So he's hurt again.
06:09So our back is going to be really good because they have to play a lot.
06:14Because these guys don't seem to be – they seem to be a little fragile.
06:20So it's next up.
06:22And all the slogans have got to come to fruition now.
06:25Now let's find out who was just running their mouth,
06:28who actually believes what they say.
06:30Talking with Rick, Doc Walker here on the Rude Guest Hotline.
06:34Doc and Ben Strober were running the postgame last night.
06:37Doc, what were those phone lines like?
06:39Because people are depressed today.
06:40I imagine they were angry last night.
06:42Yeah, it's Dallas.
06:43You know, and I'm immature.
06:44I admit it.
06:45It's the worst loss of my life.
06:47I was losing to them there, seeing all the celebrations they had after practice.
06:52They crowned Dax the king again.
06:55He can't win a game that matters.
06:58But if it don't matter, he's pretty damn good.
07:01I got to give him that.
07:03Yeah.
07:03If it don't matter, he's pretty damn good.
07:06And I just was – part of it's embarrassing that I keep looking for effort,
07:11and I keep thinking the guys don't quit.
07:14They can't catch a toss.
07:17I said it with Strobes.
07:18I want three because I don't trust us.
07:22Three seem to be easier.
07:24See, I think we can kick a field goal better than we can actually execute a play.
07:30That's what they're showing me.
07:32Terry was flashing.
07:34Everybody else's top people get what they want.
07:37We got to wait our turn.
07:43And then the Fab Five, even we going to be able to get a yard.
07:46We've said this for years, and Brian has been preaching this from day one.
07:51If you can't get a yard when you want it or stop somebody from getting one when they want it,
07:56you're going to be mediocre.
07:58Wherever your money goes, all your emphases go.
08:01It's the point of attack that counts.
08:03Sooner or later, you got to prove you can get a yard.
08:06We're on the foot – one foot away.
08:10Might as well have been a million miles away.
08:12It don't matter.
08:13Because we don't have the ability to dictate what we want when we want it.
08:20That's a bad sign.
08:23Yeah.
08:24I mean, if you think about it, it's kind of two weeks in a row
08:27because they had the two-point conversion.
08:30They obviously didn't elect to run it there.
08:33Third and goal from the one.
08:34We had a caller that's like, why are you under center?
08:36Because you're not going to run.
08:37I actually think knowing time's expiring either way opens up the possibility of the run.
08:42But they didn't do it, clearly.
08:45You're right.
08:46You're right.
08:47What do you say, Doc, to fans that are calling in and saying the season's over?
08:54Well, I don't tell fans what to do.
08:55They pay a lot of money.
08:57They come in understanding what's possible.
09:00And they have the right to be as ridiculous as they want to be.
09:06That's just my philosophy.
09:07I don't believe – as much money as they put out and false hope
09:11and all the things that they do, it's ridiculous, but so what?
09:15So is some of their actions.
09:17So be you.
09:18But just be consistent about it.
09:20Because we know what's going to happen as soon as they get a few wins,
09:23they start stringing it together.
09:24Oh, yeah.
09:24You'll run right back in.
09:26Totally.
09:26But that's their right.
09:28Their fans.
09:30These prices, everything is so escalated.
09:33Take it out on it.
09:35And you know what?
09:36I don't – I understand it.
09:39But we've been on the inside.
09:40It's not fair.
09:42We understand that how close this stuff can be.
09:45I can't imagine what that – I was thinking about that plane ride last night
09:49because I've been on it.
09:50It's a horrible flight home.
09:52You get here in the middle of the night.
09:54You don't win.
09:55You know it's going to be ridiculed.
09:57You've got Cowboy Clay and everybody else and their brother.
10:01And I'm saying to myself, and I've heard from him, and I don't blame him.
10:04I would have called him had we won.
10:06That's the fun part of this.
10:08You know it's fun when you win.
10:10You've got to be a man when you lose.
10:12Here's the good news.
10:13It's week two.
10:15Going to week three.
10:17We can fix it if we'll humble ourselves.
10:21And just take the obvious.
10:24Don't overthink it.
10:26The quickest route is 50 gut.
10:30It's straight ahead.
10:33We got all this damn innovation and can't get a yard.
10:39That's why – I'm just saying nothing new.
10:42This is a pulpit bully ball.
10:45If I can muscle you in, if we can beat you at the point, why do anything else?
10:51You getting fantasy point?
10:53You got a fantasy league going to somewhere?
10:55Doc, you playing fantasy this year?
10:57How's your team doing?
10:58About as good as Brian's.
11:01Hey, I told you, I don't play fantasy.
11:04I lived it.
11:04I know it.
11:05We know that.
11:06No, JP, you know damn well.
11:07And I ain't against it.
11:08I think it's fantastic.
11:10Anything that brings interest to the sport is good.
11:15Wagering is good for the sport.
11:17People make a ton of money with it, and they enjoy themselves.
11:20What the hell?
11:21People lose a ton of money with it.
11:22People lose a ton of money too, Doc.
11:24It's the gamble.
11:24It's the gamble.
11:25That's why they call it gambling.
11:27Doc.
11:27But what's new?
11:28Who'd you have in Survivor yesterday?
11:31The same person Brian did.
11:35Going forward, Doc.
11:37Yeah.
11:37It sure seems like it's going to be Marcus against Seattle, right?
11:41I hope so.
11:42What would you do differently?
11:44What can they do differently schematically, get other players on the field?
11:49Is there something you would do differently?
11:51I don't know.
11:52Because see, that kid five, he really is so unique.
11:56It's just like Baltimore.
11:58Nobody can duplicate a stunt man that does things people can't even, they can't figure, they can't stunt him.
12:05So play to your strengths, whatever else you have going on.
12:10To me, it's just, to me, life is just very difficult to operate when you don't have a cowbell running
12:16back.
12:17That running back by committee thing, I've never been into that.
12:21It ain't about no committee thing.
12:23We should have a stud.
12:25That when we get the need to get something, we can get something.
12:27We know what to do.
12:28We got all these big people in front of them.
12:30Then why the hell can't we do things on demand and dictate and impose ourselves on other people?
12:39Instead of having to try to out-scheme everybody.
12:42That, to me, is garbage.
12:43I don't believe in that.
12:45Yeah.
12:46Every once in a while, you just got to line up and say, hey.
12:48Every once in a while, that's what it comes down to.
12:52We're not executing some basic things, and it's too late.
12:55I'm not going over spilt milk.
12:56But I guarantee you what?
12:58Next summer, if I have to put a tent up out there, I'll be there with a mega horn.
13:05And I'll be yelling through that.
13:07Get your asses out here and practice football.
13:12So we don't have to warm up.
13:15Yeah.
13:17I swear, you think I'm kidding?
13:18No.
13:19If we make it next year, watch me.
13:20I'm going to have a tent.
13:21They'll have to arrest me to get me out of there.
13:26Get your behinds out of there.
13:28And it's tackle football.
13:30Three plays in Detroit.
13:32That was cute.
13:33How do you feel about it now?
13:37Doc, is there anything you're happy about from yesterday?
13:41Anything you like?
13:42Yeah, we still got a chance.
13:44Yeah.
13:45We still went to.
13:46That's what I'm happy about.
13:47It ain't over.
13:50It ain't over.
13:51We still got a shot.
13:52Yeah.
13:53But we got to change our mindset.
13:55I'm serious.
13:55I'm not messing around with you.
13:57I mean, this is like, it was cute.
13:59Now it's not cute.
14:00Nothing's funny about it.
14:02So I want to find out now what they going to do.
14:06What's going to be the slogan now?
14:08And the slogans are good.
14:09I like them all.
14:10But are they listening?
14:14Are they just giving them lip service?
14:17You tell me.
14:18You're closer to it than I am.
14:20What do you think?
14:21I think Quinn's best ability as a coach is to keep the guys locked in.
14:28I think we saw that late last year when the season was over and you had Josh Johnson, a quarterback,
14:33and, you know, they go up to Philly and win a game.
14:37But at the same time, it may not get dull to the players, but it gets dull to us.
14:45You know, like, at some point, you have to manage up and down.
14:50And I wonder.
14:52But see, the thing about it is about getting the players to get it.
14:55I'll be honest with you, and this is no disrespect.
14:58When I play ball and every coach I've had, they didn't give a damn about what the media thought.
15:02Sure.
15:03They care about what the players think.
15:04And I understand where Doc is coming from.
15:06Are the players getting it?
15:08I said this last week.
15:09I felt like the veteran players they brought in, Cross.
15:14Okay.
15:14Old Way.
15:15Those guys are leading in a certain way.
15:17Frankie.
15:18But sometimes when players aren't on the field, they don't feel like they can tell somebody.
15:23They step back.
15:25But I believe that they need to have more of their – see, when I got here, I learned quickly.
15:30It wasn't about talking to the coaches.
15:32Not worried about the coaches.
15:33It was about worried about the veteran players.
15:35And in this day and age, I think that little chain of hierarchy has been screwed up because so many
15:41young players make so much money.
15:42And people think money means leader.
15:45And that ain't it.
15:46You know what Dan Quinn revealed yesterday?
15:48I'd love both of your opinions on this.
15:50At halftime, after it was obvious Jaden was hurt, he said two players kind of stood up and spoke to
15:55the team.
15:56One was Jeremy Reeves, who, honestly, that kind of sounds like what we expect from Reevo, just a true natural
16:01leader.
16:02The other was Sonny Stiles, a rookie.
16:04Yeah.
16:05Doc, what do you hear when a rookie's addressing the team at halftime a week two?
16:11Well, he's serious about his profession.
16:15He wants to be – he's used to winning.
16:17See, what happens when you get these blue bloods in from big-time universities that win, he's in shock.
16:23Because they'll have lost more games than he loses a season in the first couple weeks.
16:29And so, he's showing he's not afraid.
16:33And the other guys that are really the vocal points of that team are injured.
16:37It's really hard to lead when you don't play.
16:42Yep.
16:43See, I – like, for me, I don't care if the person is a first-year guy or 15-year
16:49guy.
16:50Mm-hmm.
16:51But you better be a guy.
16:53Because, like, I didn't come to Washington waiting to be told what to do.
16:57I just started doing the stuff I knew how to do, and I started watching certain guys and following them.
17:03I think that's –
17:04Look how lucky you were, though.
17:05Yeah.
17:05Biner.
17:06Yeah.
17:06Biner.
17:07But, like, people – I don't want a coach to tell me I'm a leader.
17:12Right.
17:13Players tell you – your teammates let you know you're the leader.
17:16That's right.
17:17You know, I went to Philly.
17:18I was in year 11, but I didn't go up there trying to lead.
17:22Guys just started asking me questions.
17:23I'm like, okay, well, they put me in that position.
17:26And I went for it.
17:27I think that is what most players on this team got to do.
17:30They got guys.
17:31But I think coaches don't just run the team.
17:35The guys that are leaders run the team as well.
17:40Yeah, and you know – because I was covering the team while you were playing, and I know who you're
17:46talking about.
17:47Your backfield – and these dudes, you played the same positions with guys that you trusted.
17:53There was no ego.
17:54So, the beauty about your teams was that those teams – I'm stunned that those teams weren't championship teams because
18:04of the vibe you guys had.
18:05I've never seen anything like it.
18:07Not to get the results on the field that you wanted, but in terms of closeness and how y'all
18:14worked, I haven't seen anything like it.
18:19Doc, we always appreciate your time, sir.
18:21We'll have you next Monday.
18:22Hey, guys, like I said, man, when your primary cancels, I'll be here for you.
18:26I'm always here for you.
18:27Doc will join us next Monday at noon, and maybe we'll be talking about a wild victory that nobody saw
18:32coming.
18:32Thank you, Doc.
18:33Next Monday at noon?
18:35All right, yeah.
18:37I'll be able to do the math there.
18:39I'm trying to remember what – I'm trying to think where the hell I'm going to be next Monday at
18:43noon.
18:43Next Monday at noon, you'll be here.
18:44We'll be sitting in these same chairs.
18:47You'll play Seattle on Sunday.
18:49No, I won't be.
18:50Where are you going?
18:51I'll be in London.
18:52Oh, wow.
18:53That is next week.
18:56I forgot you go early.
18:57Yeah.
18:59It'll just be me in this chair.
19:01You'll be in this chair.
19:01I'll be in a chair – okay, I forgot the name of the place, CKC.
19:04I got to talk to him about that again.
19:06But, damn.
19:07Yeah.
19:07This has come quick.
19:09Dog.
19:10Texas, London, California, within four weeks.
19:14Stop, Jeff.
19:15Stop.
19:15Stop.
19:15800-636-1067.
19:18800-636-1067.
19:20What do we do after losses?
19:21We figure out who to blame.
19:23It's time for Blame Pie.
19:24Next.
19:24Are we doing this?
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