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00:00Oh man, I got a fun one today. I decided we should go through some of Ms. Rachel's
00:03threads, posts, and kind of dissect them a little bit because she likes to say some insane things
00:09claiming the name of Christ, claiming Christianity, and claiming the Bible. And it's concerning that
00:13there are so many people who are believing this and buying it and taking it for what she's saying.
00:17A lot of these arguments and statements she brings up are very old, recycled arguments that have
00:23already been debunked time and time again when you really look at the true understanding, theological,
00:28and accurate understanding of what the Bible says. So let's take a look at some of these. But
00:32before we get into it, my name is Cliff Buell. If you're new here, welcome. If you're not new here,
00:35welcome back. This channel exists to build a believer and reach the lost. If you like Christian
00:39content, make sure to hit that subscribe button and share this video with someone else who would
00:43appreciate it. Let's start off with Ms. Rachel saying, I am a Christian who supports, celebrates,
00:49and loves LGBTQ plus folks. You are safe and cherished with me. This is one of her more viral
00:54ones within the Christian space because of, I mean, very obviously so making a bold claim of
00:59not just loving people, but supporting and celebrating the sin that they're in. You attend
01:05a healthy church, a healthy Christian community, anything that is biblically based and it is
01:09healthy, they're going to say, hey, if you're a part of the LGBTQ plus community, you're welcome
01:15here. A healthy church is going to say that. But the idea is that they're going to bring you
01:19closer to Christ who's going to clean you up and pull you out of your sin. So whether you're an
01:23alcoholic or you're a drug addict or you're addicted to corn or you have anger issues or
01:29you've committed all sorts of crimes, none of that stuff matters about coming to church because they
01:37want you to come closer to Christ and become free of the bondage, become free from your sin. And so
01:42we
01:42should love everyone. God is love. We should love people. But supporting and celebrating
01:49absolutely not when it comes to sin. We are called to be holy as he is holy. We are called
01:53to pursue righteousness. We are called to turn away from our sin. Paul says, should we go on
01:58sinning just because the free gift of grace of Jesus Christ? He says, by no means. So we stop in
02:03our sin. This is clearly sin. As we see Jesus outlines what marriage is. We see in Genesis what
02:09marriage is. Don't even have to look at the Levitical laws. We can see in the New Testament and from
02:13the
02:13creation and even what happened, of course, to Sodom and Gomorrah, that this is a sin. This is
02:18an abomination. This is not how God has designed things. So we know it's sin. There needs to be a
02:23distinction of just because we do not affirm the sin doesn't mean that we hate the sinner, right?
02:28There is the famous Christian quote of love the sinner, hate the sin, right? And that is a biblical
02:34concept. And I think because the world sees us as, hey, we think this is a sin. You shouldn't do
02:39this.
02:39Oh, they hate me. And that's because your identity is tied up in the sin. So you take it as
02:45a personal
02:45attack. If I am having outbursts of anger and someone says, hey, you shouldn't be angry. Would
02:51I say, oh, you hate me? Well, only if my identity was in my anger, but a normal, healthy person
02:57is
02:57going to recognize that you just don't want me to be angry anymore. You don't hate me. And if you
03:02have
03:02a very healthy mindset, you can understand they actually have my best interest in mind. They know that
03:06this anger is bad for me. And so as believers, we do have to be careful and do a good
03:09job of when
03:10we are ministering to the world that they can understand where we are coming from because we
03:14cannot hold the world to biblical standards. We can only hold believers to biblical standards.
03:17So it is important when we minister to people who are living in sin that do not have a relationship
03:21with Jesus Christ, that we first lead them to that relationship with Jesus Christ instead of just
03:25condemning all of their sin all the time, instead of just going straight to condemning their sin
03:30because they will not be able to receive the truth when they don't already know the truth of
03:33Jesus Christ. This will probably be the one that I spend the most time on. There's eight other ones
03:36here. We're going to go through them rather quickly, but this one is so important because
03:40it is such a critical and divisive aspect of our culture today. While I have you here, I created an
03:46app that blocks your distracting apps until you read your Bible. It starts with a prayer and then you
03:50read the word and then you check off which book and chapter you've read so you can track reading
03:54through the entire Bible and then it unlocks your app so you can actually put God first and stop
03:57allowing scrolling or any other distractions to get in the way of spending time with God and being in his
04:01word. This has helped me personally for over four months now. If you think that it can help you too,
04:05click the link in the pink comment below or scan the QR code. Number two, we have taken the Bible
04:09literally would mean we couldn't wear blended fabrics or eat shellfish. The Bible has been used to justify
04:15things like slavery and banning interracial marriage. Some of us spend quiet moments with God where we
04:20learn just how phenomenal God's love is and just how small our thinking in this world is and how cool
04:24and judgmental we can be to each other when God wove us together about supporting LGBTQ plus
04:30specifically is what she's saying here. There's a lot in this. I'm going to address it really quick
04:33because this is one of the most insane takes I've ever heard. Taking the Bible literally, she's saying
04:37basically that we shouldn't take the Bible literally. Otherwise, we would have to do some of
04:40these Levitical laws and things of that nature. But when you read the Bible fully, you would understand
04:44that Jesus fulfilled the law. We no longer are required to live under that law anymore because of what
04:48Jesus Christ did. And if you claim to be a Christian, but you don't take the Bible literally, I would
04:52reflect
04:52on your faith because we believe that this is God's written word to us. So if you believe in God
04:57and you want God to speak to you, he speaks to you through his word primarily, then you should take
05:03it literally. You should understand what it's saying. But her thought process seems to be coming
05:06to taking things out of context and just applying them based on because you just read it in the Bible.
05:12But the reality is we have to look at the whole context of the Bible. We don't follow Old Testament
05:15laws any longer. Even if there's some good principles in there, there's some good things that we could do.
05:20Obviously, some of them are very impractical for today's day and age, and we don't have to live
05:24by them anymore because Jesus fulfilled them. But we should still pursue righteousness and holiness.
05:29So it's a strange kind of logic that she has where it's like, we don't follow these laws anymore.
05:32And also we can just affirm sin. Not a big deal. She goes on to say the Bible has been
05:36used to justify
05:37things like slavery and banning interracial marriage. That has nothing to do with taking the
05:40Bible literally because those things are not promoted in the Bible in this way, right? And there are
05:46arguments that are made, but I believe that this terrible interpretation is man taking
05:50my opinion and using the Bible to justify my opinion rather than looking at the Bible for
05:53what it is, what it says, the cultural place that it was written in and what it's pointing to,
05:58and then applying that to my everyday life. So when you mix those things up, you're going to get
06:02things like people. And I mean, for the slave Bible, they literally had to remove stuff out of
06:05it in order to justify slavery for banning interracial marriage. Again, I think that's just poor
06:10application of scripture. So it's not taking the Bible literally for either of those things.
06:15It's actually misusing the Bible. Some of us spend some quiet moments with God where we just learn
06:21about just how phenomenal God's love is, right? Yes. I think a hundred percent, everyone should do
06:24that, but that doesn't negate taking the Bible literally. I think the more you take the Bible
06:28literally, you actually learn how much God loves us because it is one of the best love stories ever
06:33written in scripture. And so we should take the Bible literally spend quiet time with the Lord.
06:38He will reveal things through his Holy spirit in the word, and you will learn how much God loves you.
06:43And you will learn to love God tremendously as well. And his creation, other people in a correct
06:47way. And then she talks about being cruel and judgmental to each other. And then she's
06:51specifically talking about LGBTQ. And again, I already addressed all that. So I'm not going to get
06:55into it again. You shouldn't be cruel to anyone. You should love people, but we hate the sin.
07:00Imagine focusing on attacking and judging others in God's name when you could serve love and help others.
07:04So this is actually relatively true. Unfortunately, I know the context that Ms. Rachel's coming from with
07:10this, but this is a true statement. We shouldn't just be focusing on attacking and judging people,
07:15but we should be serving, loving, and helping other people. A hundred percent. We are called to serve.
07:19The son of man did not come to be served, but to serve, right? A hundred percent Christians need
07:24to do a better job at serving other people instead of trying to serve ourselves. Instead of trying to
07:27just push our own agendas within Christianity, we need to show the love of Christ, which will bring
07:31people to understand who Jesus is. And that is what's going to bring them to a place of repentance.
07:36So I do agree. We shouldn't just be attacking people. I do think that judgment, there is a
07:41place for judgment in the church. I'm not talking about a final judgment. I'm not condemning people
07:45to hell, but we are called to hold other believers accountable. Jesus tells us how to judge others.
07:49And he says, you know, by the same measure that you judge, you will be judging. And I think we
07:52need
07:52to have a good measurement of judgment within the church. We should not continue to allow people to
07:56walk out in sin. Paul continues to condemn sin and what churches are doing throughout almost all of his
08:01letters. He's correcting and telling people what to do because they're in sin. You know,
08:06he says it's better for someone to be handed over to Satan when they weren't correcting the
08:09perversion that was taking place in the Corinthian church. So there is a level of judgment. It's just
08:14not a final judgment as in God's judgment. And we should not be judging the world. We should be
08:19loving the world to bring them into Christ because again, we cannot hold them to Christ standards when
08:23they don't know Christ. All right. We have a quote from Dolly Parton that she says, I keep saying,
08:28if you're the fine Christian that you think you are, why are you judging people? That's God's job.
08:32We're not God. We're not judges. We're supposed to love one another. We're supposed to not judge.
08:37So again, just with the judgment, as we already kind of talked about, you know, Miss Rachel again
08:42is just pushing this, like stop judging LGBTQ people. Stop hating people. Let's just love,
08:46love, love, love, love. God is love. And it's like, yes, God is love, but he's also a God of
08:50judging.
08:51He's a God of wrath. And we don't want our brothers and sisters in Christ. And we don't want God's
08:55creation to be subject to that wrath. So when we're simply pointing things out in the world saying,
08:59hey, if you come to Christ, you know, put off this other lifestyle, whatever. We're not trying
09:03to judge people and condemn them to hell. We're trying to tell them the truth. And some Christians
09:06do a really bad job of that. And others do a really great job. But unfortunately, the ones who
09:09have done a bad job in representing Christ very poorly, that's where we get our bad name from for
09:14what we've done. The ones, whoever, who are loving people well, like they're doing a great job. But if
09:18you're in the church, if you claim like Miss Rachel claims to be a Christian, so we are going to
09:21call
09:21you out and say, hey, the word of God says, this is actually wrong. What you're saying says not to
09:26celebrate and support LGBTQ. It actually says it's an abomination. It says that marriage is
09:31between one man and one woman. It says to deny the flesh. It says that we should not lust after
09:36anyone, even if you're a heterosexual. So we have to address these things appropriately and claim what
09:41the word of God says to other believers that they know that they are living incorrectly, that they
09:45were living a sinful, rebellious life to God while also trying to claim his name. And you cannot serve
09:49two masters, as scripture says. So again, when it comes to judgment, this is an area where people are
09:54just like, oh, you don't need to judge, no judge, no judge. But really we do have to make judgments
09:57rightly within the church to understand what God is saying and how people should live for the Lord.
10:03My mind is full of God's love. No, hate is a lot inside. I love that for you, but the
10:07word actually
10:07says to love what God loves and to hate what God hates. That is what scripture says. So there should
10:12be
10:12some hate inside. So we need to hate the sin again. And that's where Miss Rachel has a lot of
10:17problems
10:17that she doesn't hate sin. She affirms sin and she thinks it's great and amazing and cool. And she celebrates
10:22and supports it. So that's, that's part of the problem. You should have God's love. You should
10:25have it. We all should have God's love. We should experience God's love. We should give God's love,
10:30but we should also hate what he hates. And that's sin. That's wickedness. That's rebellion. That's
10:34disobedience. He hates these things. And when we start to hate them too, we move in a direction of love
10:40towards righteousness, towards holiness. This one was interesting. She said, want to correct something
10:44commonly said, thank you for being a voice for children who are voiceless. They have voices. They are much
10:49smarter and more fearless than me. Their communities have voices and are as well, but you have blessed me
10:55with a platform and I will use it to listen and amplify. So I guess people are thanking Miss Rachel
11:00for being a voice for children who are voiceless. What's interesting about this is when it comes to
11:04the topic of abortion. Now it is scriptural to say, to have a voice for those voiceless. I believe it's
11:09in Psalms, you know, be a voice for those who are voiceless. We should absolutely be that as
11:13Christians. We should stand up for those who are vulnerable, who cannot defend themselves. That is the job
11:17of a believer. And so I believe one of the people that we should stand up for are those babies
11:23in
11:23the womb. They need someone to fight for them because they are being deleted at a rate like
11:28none other that we've never seen in the history of someone, a group of people being killed. This is
11:34like nothing we've ever seen. And so it is ironic to me to use this as like, Hey, I'm going
11:39to keep
11:39speaking up for these people who don't have a voice, but really you're not. You're not speaking up for
11:45the ones that are experiencing the harshest and biggest genocide. She wants to stand up for other
11:50genocides, but you don't stand up for this one. You don't stand up for the truth that is happening
11:54in the womb. So this is just crazy to me that this is even something she said knowing that,
11:59but I think a lot of this is even just engagement bait at the end of the rage bait. I
12:03think that's
12:03all that a lot of it is. And she knows that it brings on a lot of fans and it
12:08gives more engagement
12:09and more publicity to those who disagree. And here I am doing the same thing, but I think a lot
12:13of
12:13these things need to be addressed. We need to talk about these things so we can understand
12:16both sides of the argument and make a logical conclusion about what the truth actually is.
12:20So let's look at why would Ms. Rachel weigh into politics? I would like children to stop being
12:23killed. Yeah, I think we all would. But again, you're not really fighting for the ones in the
12:27womb. You're only fighting for the ones that fit your agenda. And I think that's a problem.
12:31All right. We have, I'm going to love more all day and every day. No hate can stop me.
12:35Yeah. I don't think hate should stop you from loving people. I just don't think you have a good
12:38understanding of what love and hate are. All right. And we have Jesus would be kind of Muslims.
12:43Jesus was Jewish. Love every neighbor. Attacking people of other faiths.
12:48Oh, the irony. Attacking people of other faiths is wrong. Jesus showed this in the Good Samaritan
12:54parable and in his life and teachings. Love a devout Christian. Yeah, I don't know about that.
13:00It's just the irony of attacking other people's faiths is wrong while offending Muslims is hilarious.
13:05It really is. Now, Muslims need to know Jesus Christ and we absolutely need to be kind to them.
13:10It's God's kindness that leads to repentance. I do believe that Jesus would be kind to Muslims.
13:14I think that statement is accurate. I've heard testimony after testimony from Muslims,
13:17where it's Christians who are kind to them, who love them, who ministered and serve them,
13:22who converted, as opposed to the Christians who are just screaming at them, yelling at them,
13:26making fun of them. Those things have not converted people. So I do believe we should be kind to them.
13:31And I don't think that we should just attack them because they're Muslims, right? We should be ready
13:35to defend ourselves though, because they will attack you for your faith. The Quran talks about
13:39what they should do to the infidel, to the unbeliever, to the Christian and the Jew.
13:42And so we do need to be ready to defend ourselves, but at the same time, we need to use
13:45wisdom and how
13:46we can move forward in trying to introduce Muslims to a saving relationship with Jesus Christ.
13:51All right. Ms. Rachel forgot to take her meds. No, I remember it. I have a daily pill organizer and
13:56there's nothing wrong or shameful about taking meds for mental health. No need to stigmatize mental
14:00health or medication. Yeah. We don't need to make fun of people who are taking mental health,
14:03but I don't know if she's admitting to taking pills for mental health issues.
14:08The whole thing kind of seems weird to me. It seems like more like a PR kind of push so
14:12that
14:12she can get more support for supporting mental health here. But you know, I believe that Jesus
14:18Christ can heal mental health issues. I believe that he can fully remove anxiety, bipolar stress,
14:24deleting yourself thoughts. I believe Jesus can remove all of these things. He can handle the
14:28mental health. And when we continue to rely on pharmakia, which is a form of witchcraft,
14:33man, it becomes a problem. Pharmakia being the root word of pharmacy. Pharmakia is actually
14:37another word for witchcraft in the Greek. So man, we need to be very, very careful about medication.
14:43I'm not completely against it. I think there can be seasons and times where we can take certain
14:47things to help us in a moment, but I think we should not rely on it long-term. We need
14:52to be very
14:52careful about going to substances to cure us rather than the great physician. And then the last one
14:58I'll read here is less judgment, more compassion for parents, for everyone. Parenting life is hard.
15:04Again, I think she has a very skewed view on judgment. I think there are people who are harsh
15:08in their judgment and their criticisms, a hundred percent, but judgment isn't necessarily an evil
15:13thing. But yeah, we do need to be more compassionate. So, I mean, you can even see here, like, I
15:17don't
15:17disagree with every point she's making, but I have not agreed with a full point of what she's making.
15:22She has a very bad understanding of love. She has a very bad understanding of hate. She's a
15:26very bad understanding of judgment. But we do need to be kind and compassionate and serving
15:30to others. Christians could a hundred percent learn so much from non-believers who just love
15:36people without condition. Truly, it happens time and time again, and believers can be so bad about
15:40that. But we also need to understand that calling out things that are sinful, calling out things that
15:44are wrong, that are against our Lord and Savior, Jesus Christ, things that put him up on the cross,
15:50that's not wrong. Especially if you're a believer, we need to be calling those things out. If a believer is
15:55choosing to live in sin, we need to call that out. But man, let me know what you guys think
15:58about all
15:59this. It's kind of crazy. I know there's Christian alternatives to Miss Rachel. If maybe you didn't
16:03know about this and you watch Miss Rachel or you let your kids watch Miss Rachel, there are Christian
16:07alternatives. I know Chosen Kids is one. Good News Guys is another one. Those are just a couple off the
16:11top of my head. There are many others, though, that I've seen. Honestly, if you were to just do a
16:15Google of Christian alternatives to Miss Rachel, there's going to be a few that pop up there.
16:19And they're good. They're really good. So I would recommend not watching her, supporting her. And that is that.
16:25But again, let me know what you think. If you like Christian content, don't forget to hit that
16:27subscribe button. Share this with somebody who you know would appreciate it. Like the video if you
16:31enjoyed it. But until I see you next time, God bless and I love you.
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