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The First Minister of Wales, Rhun ap Iowerth, and the First Minister of Scotland, John Swinney, signed the 'Cardiff Agreement' in the Welsh capital before delivering a press conference. The two leaders brought forward their views on devolution and their respective wishes to bring the topic of independence back on the table.

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00:00Everything that my government does is about seeking better outcomes for the people of Wales.
00:07It's about getting to grips with child poverty and the cost of living, which is why we have already agreed
00:14today to undertake work together on how we can assess what other steps are that could be taken to help
00:20the people of Wales and Scotland on that key issue.
00:23We are interested in how we improve public services. We are interested in how our governments operate from day to
00:30day.
00:32Another very important part of that is our constitutional story and how we can learn from each other on our
00:39distinct journeys as nations.
00:41I think it's really important for the people of Wales that we look always outside, building relationships with partners, looking
00:52for opportunities for shared learning.
00:54And that is precisely what we're doing here today.
00:57I don't think anyone would be at all surprised, having listened to what I said during the election campaign, that
01:03I've got an interest in advancing the arguments and the opportunities to deliver Scottish independence.
01:08So it lies at the heart of my government's programme, it was at the heart of the election proposition I
01:14put to the country and I won the election.
01:17So I'm simply advancing the mandate.
01:20I am firmly pro-European and firmly believe that the vote 10 years ago was damaging to the interests of
01:27Wales.
01:27And I will make this point that when it comes to cooperation between Welsh Government and Scottish Government, a shared
01:34view on how closer integration with the European Union is in the interests of the people that we serve is
01:42something that we will want to pursue as part of this of this agreement.
01:47On the question of the new UK Prime Minister's view of decentralising power, I do take a positivity from the
02:00fact that we have a Prime Minister that talks the language of wanting to bring power closer to the people.
02:09And I genuinely believe we can build on that.
02:13I think what we need to see happening is a deepening understanding of the Prime Minister on what devolution means
02:24in the context of nations like ours.
02:27And it is very different to English regions.
02:31So there is something that we can build upon.
02:34And as John said, to hear a UK Prime Minister say that Westminster isn't working, which is something that I
02:41have said for a very, very long time, suggests that we might in some ways have common ground on finding
02:48the solution to getting it working.
02:51To me, of course, ultimately, I want us to have that redesign of the relationship between us in these islands,
02:57which I think would be in the interests of all of us.
02:59To me, of course.
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