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Valdez is fed up with this specific type of NFL fan. He shared his opinion about crazy fans to The Sports Junkies this morning, and it led to a fierce debate between all the guys. Which side do you fall on when it comes to the two types of football fans?
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00:00A bold statement from Matt Valdez.
00:03What's that?
00:03If you're too excited for the upcoming NFL season.
00:06You're a loser?
00:08He's dubbed you a loser.
00:09Can I explain that statement to you?
00:11I would love to hear the rationale.
00:14Well, number one, I told this in confidence to drab.
00:17He must have been hurting for segments to fill up.
00:22That line must have been light.
00:24You're such a loser.
00:26Actually, I got triggered by Scott Hansen.
00:30To be honest with you.
00:30All right.
00:31Scott Hansen.
00:32He's big on countdowns.
00:33Yes.
00:34That is what I think is loserdom.
00:38Red Zone does a countdown by seconds if you watch Red Zone to when it's going to start.
00:43Are you lumping Dave Richard in who joins us weekly?
00:45I believe he does a weekly countdown.
00:48Like five more Sundays to football.
00:50Three Sundays.
00:51You're putting me in a tough position here, guys.
00:54You're the one with the spice.
00:55Don't tell Dave I said this.
00:57I won't.
00:58It's fine.
00:58But if you're counting down like two more Sundays.
01:03They're just promoting.
01:05No.
01:06There's people that feel that way.
01:07Yeah.
01:08If you're counting down the Sundays, I think you have an unhealthy relationship with football.
01:16I think there's actually something to it.
01:18If you are going, God damn, my Sundays sure do suck, but thank God the Raiders are playing
01:28the Dolphins and I have to watch it.
01:31I think you have an unhealthy addiction to the NFL.
01:34I'm not saying you shouldn't be a fan of your team or you shouldn't watch big matchups or put it
01:40on.
01:41I'm not saying that because we all root for teams.
01:43We all root for your fantasy, your player and everything.
01:46But I think if you're counting down Sundays and that there are some people and there are some fans out
01:53there that need to do a serious look in the mirror
01:57and know that if your entire weekend and your entire happiness revolves around what a certain player or what a
02:06certain team does on a Sunday,
02:07you have an unhealthy relationship with the game.
02:11This is a corollary of your IJS stance.
02:14It's just sports.
02:15It's just the, yeah.
02:16Well, sports are meant to be enjoyable and fun and you shouldn't get all worked up and bent out of
02:22shape.
02:23Trust me, I've been there, but I've evolved as a human being and I've matured.
02:27You've grown.
02:27I've grown.
02:28So you don't get upset anymore when you watch Raiders games?
02:29No, not really.
02:30Maybe for one second afterward when they lose, I said, man, they should have had that one.
02:34Or they sure blew that one.
02:35But life goes on.
02:36But maybe they could argue that you're missing out on the joy.
02:39No, I have plenty of joy.
02:43Just not in football.
02:45No, I enjoy watching the games and I enjoy, but when the clock hits zero in the fourth quarter.
02:52You can accept it.
02:52I accept it.
02:53I move on in life.
02:54I'll say this.
02:55On some level, unfortunately, I think I agree with you.
02:58Unfortunately.
02:59And I've said this for years and I get mocked by the football lovers.
03:05I like summer to last forever.
03:07I don't like 105 degree heat.
03:10Nobody likes that.
03:11But I love summer.
03:12Summer reminds me of my childhood.
03:15I hated school.
03:16Reminds me of no school.
03:18Reminds me of vacation.
03:19I love vacation.
03:21I love everything about summer.
03:24Summer's great.
03:24I don't like it when it's 105 degrees like this.
03:26But I'll still go out there.
03:28I mean, I'm not going to just stay inside.
03:30I love summer.
03:31So football season, I love football.
03:33But it signals the end of summer.
03:35And I don't like that.
03:36So I'm not in a countdown.
03:38Fall's a great season.
03:39You sleep a little bit on how great fall is.
03:41I do, but I don't have the same love affair with fall as I do with summer.
03:45You understand.
03:46But I freaking hated school my whole life.
03:50But that's long gone.
03:53It's long gone.
03:54It's still traumatizing.
03:55It traumatized me.
03:56You've been triggering every school season.
03:58School's long gone, but I also think about my kids.
03:59I like having my kids when they were younger.
04:01I just like summer.
04:03You like watching your kids play sports.
04:05I like watching football.
04:06Of course, there are other things in life I like.
04:07The crazy thing is, he almost got into the education system.
04:11That was going to be his career.
04:13Yeah, because I get to be off in the summer.
04:15Because I get to have vacation in the summer.
04:18A key component of it, yeah.
04:19That's a big one.
04:19I love summer.
04:20So I love football, but I don't need to count down.
04:24I don't need to race the football.
04:26I don't want to race through summer.
04:27Also, I mean, how long is the NFL season all in all through the Super Bowl?
04:32What, 26 months?
04:3325 weeks?
04:34I don't know.
04:34You just had 27 weeks without it, and you survived.
04:38It's okay.
04:39Sunday, your Sunday does not need to be monopolized.
04:43Not even just your Sunday.
04:44Your Sunday, your Wednesday, your Thursday, your Saturday, your Monday.
04:48I agree with you there.
04:49Too much NFL.
04:50Doesn't need to be monopolized.
04:51There's too much NFL.
04:53I disagree.
04:54I disagree.
04:54Too much fantasy.
04:55I disagree.
04:55If you're addicted to football like Scott Hansen, you are having five of your seven days
05:01monopolized by the NFL.
05:03But it's fun.
05:03By the way, you know what?
05:04I think you're kind of being the fun police.
05:06Like, the way I look at it is, you're going to call them losers, and we can call different
05:11types of people losers for different types of things, including myself, right?
05:15Everybody's got their different interests, but let people have their fun.
05:18If people want to have fun watching football on Wednesday, Thursday, Sunday, why do you
05:23care?
05:24I just think it's too much, personally.
05:27No, I don't care.
05:27But it bothers Matt.
05:28I don't care.
05:29Exactly.
05:30Exactly.
05:30That's my point.
05:31No, I don't care.
05:32He seems to care.
05:32No, it bothers Matt more than it bothers you.
05:34Yeah, because people like Drab, when we were talking about it this morning.
05:38He hates Drab.
05:39That's basically what it is.
05:40No, no, no.
05:40We had a very good discussion and lively debate about it.
05:43A healthy back and forth.
05:44Yeah, yeah.
05:44People like Drab compared watching the NFL to his faith.
05:48And that was...
05:49That blew my mind.
05:50That's a break too far.
05:51No, no.
05:51I thought it was a great analogy.
05:52All right, give me an hour.
05:53He's a paradox.
05:54Valdez is running hot right now.
05:56And he doesn't appreciate the life that he has.
05:58He's about to get married.
05:59He's having a party, a crab party this Sunday.
06:02He's got lots of friends.
06:04He's at the club every day.
06:05He's playing golf.
06:06What I said is...
06:07With the boys.
06:07The old guys.
06:09I said football is like religion.
06:11You have to have a foundation so it's there for you when you need it.
06:14There are some seasons where you need football more than other seasons.
06:18Valdez doesn't need football right now.
06:20Five years ago, this guy was betting on everything.
06:22He wasn't missing a game.
06:25He was staying up to midnight on Thursday.
06:26Football's taking a back seat.
06:28By the way, it's the same guy who says...
06:29Talk about unhealthy relationships.
06:31He's sending me over-unders for golfers that I've never heard of on Sunday for a late
06:35August golf tournament.
06:37A guy watches eight hours of golf on every weekend.
06:40Yeah.
06:41All right?
06:41So, and he's calling him unhealthy.
06:44He's calling us losers to watch the NFL.
06:45He said we have unhealthy relationships.
06:47Yeah, but I'm not counting down the days to the Eastlake.
06:51Okay, that's true.
06:52But you might be.
06:53Well, you might be.
06:53We just don't know it.
06:54I would count down the days to the Masters.
06:56I just never thought Valdez would turn into Bickle and only care about the locals or just
07:01like not be a sports fan all of a sudden.
07:04You know, I get that it's just sports thing.
07:06It doesn't have to ruin your life if your team loses.
07:07But now we can't even enjoy football without him calling us effing losers at 5.50 in the
07:12morning.
07:12Yeah.
07:12I mean, what's happening here?
07:14I feel like attacked.
07:16Yeah.
07:16I enjoy the NFL.
07:19I do.
07:19But I don't need to consume all 16, 17, whatever number of games there are every week.
07:24I don't need to watch them all.
07:24That's fine.
07:25I didn't watch a couple of them.
07:27My team and then parts of others.
07:29If it's a particularly good game, I'll watch it.
07:31Yeah, but you're not into fantasy.
07:32You don't bet on a bunch of games.
07:34You know what?
07:34It freed my life up.
07:35Yeah.
07:36To Valdez's point.
07:37That's all I do on a Sunday or a Saturday.
07:39But Valdez watches the Orioles every day.
07:42I didn't watch it last night because they were on an 8.40.
07:44Okay, but that's a late game.
07:46He obviously cares about sports.
07:48The whole IJS thing was a ruse.
07:51I said that from day one.
07:52Of course he cares about sports.
07:53It was a way to protect his heart from heartbreak.
07:56No, no, no, no, no.
07:58I've matured enough to where if the team loses, you all shucks.
08:03Next year, it's fine.
08:04But I don't let it ruin my day.
08:06There's people out there that if the Commanders lose or the Ravens lose or the Seahawks
08:11lose, it affects their entire week.
08:15Sure.
08:15And the show actually plays into that.
08:19When the Commanders win, we have a victory Monday.
08:22EB will say, play the music 100 times.
08:24It does help the mood.
08:26You know that growing up.
08:28I actually like that, at least for the local team.
08:31Right.
08:32You sleep better on a Sunday night after a win.
08:36It's going to be a more fun week for me.
08:38Yeah, because the week's going to be better.
08:38It's going to be a more fun week for me.
08:40When they lose, I know everyone's just going to pile on them.
08:42And I can pile on them, too.
08:43But it gets to a point where I have to stop.
08:45Yeah, there's a...
08:46Protect my boys.
08:47There's a psychology from winning that will persist throughout a week and help the mood
08:54of actually an entire city, an entire region.
08:58No.
08:59When a team wins like that, it unites the city.
09:03Yeah, of course.
09:04It's a great thing.
09:05Absolutely.
09:06It's absolutely a great thing.
09:07It doesn't make you a loser.
09:08If the Commanders win four games in a row...
09:11I said unhealthy.
09:13Okay.
09:13But when the mics were on, he said unhealthy.
09:16Yeah.
09:16I can picture him saying loser.
09:18All of a sudden, he turned his train on Scott Hanson because of somebody we don't see.
09:21I don't know.
09:22Draft thinks Roger Goodell is Jesus Christ.
09:25He did say he doesn't understand JP because JP doesn't have a favorite team.
09:29He doesn't gamble.
09:30He really doesn't care about fantasy football.
09:33But yet, the guy can't wait until week one to watch the game.
09:36I love watching football.
09:37I love watching sports.
09:38Sports is competition.
09:40But he doesn't have favorite teams, really.
09:42That is true.
09:43What are you watching for?
09:44Do you understand me, Matt?
09:46I root for games all the time.
09:48He likes greatness.
09:48Do you understand me, Matt?
09:49He does have...
09:50He likes guys.
09:50I mean, I root for the locals like the Wizards and Caps.
09:53I don't care.
09:55I grew up a Baltimore Colts fan.
09:58It's hard to stick with the Colts.
09:59I stuck with the Colts for years and years.
10:02People get divorced.
10:03I broke up with the Raiders.
10:04I broke up with the Orioles.
10:05I broke up with the Cubs.
10:07I broke up with two teams.
10:08I'm on my third marriage.
10:10I broke up with two baseball teams.
10:12You're a serial monogamous.
10:14Jason, you gamble.
10:16JP doesn't really gamble.
10:18Yeah.
10:18You have action early, afternoon, and night games.
10:23Yeah.
10:24Everything.
10:25JP's just watching.
10:27Why are you bothered by my habits?
10:29I watch.
10:30It's not on TNT anymore, but I love watching a good NBA game.
10:34I think it's abnormal that you don't have a favorite team.
10:40But he has favorite players.
10:41You've got to give him that.
10:43He's got his Dirks and his Lucas.
10:45No, no, no, no.
10:46I'm talking about the NFL.
10:47I root for the commanders for the show.
10:50I just don't have it in my heart as a kid.
10:51I think a lot of people who are the most passionate have it from experiences when they're a child going
11:00to games with their dad or their mom or somebody else.
11:04Generally, I think that's true.
11:05And so when you don't have that, I mean, I had it with a different team that doesn't exist, eventually
11:10it goes away.
11:11Yeah, but I had it.
11:12We'd go to the Cubs games every year.
11:14Regularly Field.
11:15Greatest memories of my life.
11:16I cheated on them.
11:17I broke up with them.
11:18Okay, well, you could have stayed with them.
11:20Yeah, I broke up with them.
11:21Because I couldn't see them anymore.
11:22I can't love a team.
11:24We used to have WGN, and I was still all in.
11:26And then whatever cable, Comcast, whatever it was back in the day, they pulled WGN.
11:32They snatched them from me.
11:33How can I follow a team I can't follow anymore?
11:36Valdez always has these rules about being a fan.
11:41Look, if the Orioles get into the playoffs, it'll be butts iced.
11:44I actually checked the wildcard standings.
11:47They're half game back, I believe.
11:48Ooh, you can check the wildcard standings.
11:50See, he gets bitter.
11:52But you know what?
11:53He would have a rule.
11:55He would be like a bouncer.
11:56He would be a bouncer at a stadium.
11:59And let's say...
12:00He feels like you're a fake fan.
12:01No, no, but at a Commander's game, he would maybe...
12:03He's not a fake fan, though.
12:04Of the Orioles?
12:05He's not a fake fan.
12:05He's a fake fan.
12:07The Orioles?
12:07No, I'm not.
12:08I mean, he's been a lifelong fan.
12:09Well, for Valdez?
12:10He's a fake fan.
12:11But for Valdez...
12:12He may not be up to your level.
12:13Yeah, he would be a bouncer at a stadium, right?
12:16A Commander's game.
12:17No JP's.
12:18And he would go, what's Nick Allegretti's number?
12:21And if they didn't go 60, 70, you're out.
12:23You're not in.
12:23He would do the Survivor game at a stadium, and you wouldn't get in.
12:29He's a fan elitist.
12:30Valdez is.
12:31Yeah, most fans, by the way, don't know Nick Allegretti's number.
12:34Or know, and we just experienced this, or know where Nick Cross went to college when
12:39he went to Maryland.
12:40That's a pretty easy one.
12:41Most fans don't know that.
12:42They wouldn't qualify.
12:43I didn't even know Devo led the team in the sessions last year.
12:46Yeah, the one guy thought that McLaurin let him.
12:47No, he knew it wasn't.
12:49That's why.
12:49That's the only guy he'd come up with.
12:50Like, for example, my wife, you'd probably say, oh, she's not a fan of the Commander.
12:54She was a cheerleader for the team, but she doesn't know five players on the team.
12:58She knows Jaden Daniels, Terry McLaurin, and that's about it.
13:02Is that a fan?
13:03Under Valdez's definition, that's not a fan.
13:08I think there's, obviously, there's different levels.
13:11She's a casual fan.
13:12The fandom still makes you a fan.
13:14Okay.
13:15Under a very broad definition, yeah.
13:18I would say that.
13:19JP, but he never pays attention to the O's.
13:21He never watches them, and then suddenly it's October.
13:23It's not that important to him.
13:24And he starts talking about his dad or going to the games.
13:27What?
13:28Correct.
13:29How many Eddie Murray stories do we got to hear?
13:32I'm sure you hear Eddie Murray stories.
13:34He almost named Dylan Eddie Murray.
13:37Yeah, that is true.
13:38But he couldn't tell you who their catcher is.
13:39Can you imagine if he named him Eddie Murray Flame?
13:42Great bit.
13:43Great running bit.
13:43Oh, my God.
13:44I would have never let him live it down.
13:46You could have named your kid John Riggins Bickle.
13:49He never would.
13:50Okay.
13:51He never would.
13:52I actually kind of wish he did.
13:54Hey, two more Sundays to no more countdown.
13:56But the weird part about Valdez is he's an elitist as a fan,
14:00but now he's saying he doesn't want you to be passionate about Sundays.
14:05It's almost being on both sides.
14:07No, I said if your mood and having five of your seven days monopolized by the NFL.
14:15And by the way, there's a difference between being a fan of a team
14:18and then sitting down and watching a Raiders-Dolphins game
14:22because you've got to watch it and so you're so addicted to the NFL.
14:25Yeah, but don't you do that with golf?
14:28You're not just watching the majors.
14:30Yeah.
14:31Yeah, but I...
14:32He watches it every week.
14:33Well, not every week.
14:34You pretty much do.
14:35I will say this.
14:36He knows the team names and live.
14:38I don't know what it makes me,
14:41but when the skins lose,
14:43it ruins my week.
14:45Part of it is because I know we're going to come in here
14:47and we're just going to hammer them for a week.
14:48Got to hit Titanic.
14:49When you're a diehard fan of the team,
14:51I could do it,
14:52but it gets tiring to do it for 20 hours
14:56and you get a little annoyed.
14:58It's kind of like you can make fun of your own kids,
15:00but other people can't make fun of your...
15:02You know what I mean?
15:03I could critique my own kids,
15:05but when other people critique my kids,
15:06I could critique my team for a bit,
15:07but then when everyone starts doing it
15:09over a week, day after day after day...
15:11It gets tiresome.
15:12Yeah, you start to get defensive.
15:14So actually, every time the skins lose,
15:16for people that don't understand,
15:17it's torture.
15:19Here's what I know.
15:19The irony...
15:20It's torture, and they lose a lot.
15:21That's why I said you don't sleep as well
15:23on a Sunday night after they lost.
15:25I agree to an extent.
15:26Because you're just thinking about the week.
15:28I don't sleep well in general,
15:28but yeah, I agree.
15:29The irony of Valdez's position is in our job,
15:33we want all those losers,
15:35all those people he's calling losers.
15:37You want the passion.
15:38You want the people that are talking about it.
15:40I know.
15:41Trust me, I understand that the job and career
15:43depends on people watching nonstop
15:45and being psychopaths about their team.
15:49There's a network called NFL Network
15:52because people are addicted to the NFL.
15:54I get it.
15:55I do think there's too much NFL,
15:57but that's just me.
15:58I do not.
15:58I would push back against that.
16:00All right, coming up at 825,
16:01we're going to be joined by Berries Verluga,
16:03columnist for The Athletic.
16:05That's coming up at 825 here on The Junk.
16:07That's coming up at 825.
16:07you can have a week's point.
16:07we're going to change always the time,
16:07and start to switch with the dance and then you get to play.