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The Washington Commanders came up short against the Detroit Lions on Saturday afternoon. There were some positives and negatives to analyze from their second preseason game. What was your biggest takeaway from Saturday’s loss?
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00:00Commanders lost.
00:01Not that the score matters.
00:03Really couldn't be more trivial, but they did lose 17-13 to the Detroit Lions
00:07in their second preseason game.
00:10Low scoring.
00:12Very interesting start.
00:15The Commanders scored first on a fumble recovery for a touchdown in the end zone.
00:19Then they tied it briefly.
00:21Stayed close with field goals.
00:23Lions took the lead in the third quarter on a one-yard Travion Williams run.
00:28And, of course, they held on with a late field goal.
00:32Jaden Daniels was out there for three plays.
00:35Big disaster.
00:36The tight ends kind of didn't hold their blocks well enough to execute the first play.
00:41Second play, I think maybe Julian Good-Jones even got blown up a little bit.
00:45Everybody was pointing out that, I can't remember who it was, Diggs.
00:48A couple of these other guys were out there.
00:50We were wide open.
00:50It was just a play that couldn't develop.
00:52Jaden kind of chucks it like some sort of weird swing pass thing that basically gets rid of it.
00:57Right.
00:58And then the third play was the delayed handoff that got some yardage, but whatever.
01:02And that was it.
01:03That's an ultimate give out play.
01:04Third and 20.
01:05And that was it.
01:05They just wanted to get off the field.
01:07And give Tress some room to punt.
01:09So that was very disappointing from the sense that he just wanted to get a little excited.
01:15By the way, it wasn't the center that botched that second play.
01:18It was Bates.
01:19No, it was Bates on the first play.
01:21Bates botched the second play, too.
01:22No, I'm talking about on the sack.
01:24Yeah, that was the first play.
01:25No, the sack was the second play.
01:27Okay, well, I'm confused.
01:28There was an incompletion on the first play.
01:29The first play was Jaden just gets rid of the ball.
01:31The second play was the sack.
01:32Okay, I got it reversed.
01:33I got it reversed.
01:34So it wasn't the center because they were all moving left.
01:37He had his guy, but Bates missed the tackle.
01:39No, no, I just reversed the two plays.
01:41Yeah.
01:41Forgive me.
01:43There are guys, though, that, again, under the first team defense, you know, I thought
01:49market improvements.
01:50So, you know, it's not all terrible.
01:52And then, you know, other guys, you had the five defensive guys that had sacks, you know,
01:56Hurst, Jean-Baptiste, Amik Robertson.
01:59And, of course, he flashed even the, I'm not even going to try to say the name of the guy
02:04who's, like, their international player.
02:06I actually thought he looked legit on that play.
02:09TJ Mugganranga or whatever.
02:10I mean, who knows what his future is.
02:12But I thought he looked pretty good there.
02:14Everybody's talking about the Jaden Bradley catch.
02:17Antonio Williams continues to flash a little bit.
02:20He had two catches for 41 yards.
02:23Josh Josephs, while he did have the play where he over-pursued on the run and he got burned
02:27for it on the touchdown, he generated that early pressure that led to Amik's strip sack.
02:34And then, of course, he recovered the fumble.
02:36So it was up and down day for Josh.
02:38But he's flashing.
02:39I think that's good.
02:40Robert Henry Jr. came crashing back to earth after his fumble.
02:43That's sort of on the downside.
02:45The running game, just 35 yards on 17 carries.
02:492.1 yards per attempt, as Cakes mentioned.
02:53Robert Henry Jr., he was kind of like, what is the, I don't know.
02:58Everybody loved what he did in week one, week two.
03:01Just not as good.
03:03He had a late kickoff fumble.
03:05Catron, even though he only had 30 yards on 10 carries, some people thought, you know,
03:10fairly impressive getting what he could.
03:12Show a little wiggle.
03:14Hartman had some moments, you know, where he, you know, he looked like maybe a varsity
03:18high school quarterback.
03:21There were some other moments where he looked like a JV quarterback.
03:25Kelly Comanis is not a star, but you know what?
03:28He looks the part.
03:30He's very Cousins-like.
03:33Like, he's not super athletic.
03:34I mean, relatively speaking.
03:35These guys are all great athletes.
03:36But relatively speaking, relative to the competition, relative to other elite quarterbacks, he's
03:41not going to really move.
03:42But he's got good footwork.
03:43He's got a big, strong arm.
03:46He was 11 of 14.
03:47I think he's impressed everyone.
03:49He's got a stranglehold on the number three job.
03:51Like, he's pulled so far ahead of Sam Hartman.
03:54And if Mariota's not ready for the first week, he's going to be the number two.
03:57Right.
03:58Yeah.
03:58He really is raising some eyebrows.
04:01So, I think a good job so far there, Adam Peters, on that project that they've selected.
04:07It was just an ugly game because there was just no offense from either team.
04:11There was barely any yardage.
04:13It was just, it was kind of ugly to watch.
04:16Have you mentioned Sonny Stiles because on Friday, when we did the show and we were talking
04:22about what we wanted to see, one of the things that I said was, I want to see at least
04:28one
04:28Sonny Stiles splash play.
04:31You want to see him flash.
04:31Yeah.
04:31You want to see him pop a little bit because he's your first round pick.
04:34And I don't know.
04:35Maybe I missed it.
04:36I didn't see it.
04:36He didn't give you anything.
04:37No.
04:38But he wasn't out there very long.
04:41The only thing I'm going to say.
04:42He was out there in the first series where they caused the fumble.
04:45Okay.
04:46So, that wasn't a long drive.
04:48In the second series, that's when Dobbs scored.
04:52But, and then he was pulled.
04:54So, I mean, he just went out there.
04:55He's been out there for maybe a total of 30 plays or so.
04:57Probably two games.
04:58You tell me when Ale Cahoe leads the team in tackles during the regular season over Sonny
05:04Stiles.
05:04I mean, that just shows you in a nutshell what the preseason is.
05:07Can I make a bet with you?
05:08Sure.
05:09You take Sonny Stiles to lead the team in tackles.
05:11Okay.
05:12You're insinuating to not take the field.
05:13Ooh, I can't do that.
05:15Why not?
05:16I mean, I'm just...
05:17Bobby Wagner did it every year.
05:18I'm just not...
05:18I'm not into giving you field bets at this point.
05:21I need to see a few weeks.
05:23Sonny Stiles, I'm assuming, is going to be a great player.
05:26He's got everything you want.
05:27He's a spectacular kid.
05:29God-fearing kid.
05:30Like, everything about the kid is just you root for him.
05:32I do think that it's pretty obvious that he's learning, right?
05:38Beyond just any rookie learning, I still think he's growing into the position
05:41of playing linebacker.
05:42I used the word project when he was drafted and people attacked me.
05:47He's learning.
05:48He's got a lot to learn.
05:49He's the target of a couple of social media accounts, including our guy,
05:53first-round mock.
05:53A lot of people are attacking Sonny Stiles.
05:55And I watched one of the kind of all-22s where they broke down every one of his plays.
06:01It hasn't been flattering the first two games.
06:05Now, what I don't know is when he's going into a gap and he's taking on a tackler,
06:09is that where he's supposed to be?
06:11He's not making enough plays to notice it as just an average fan.
06:16Put it this way.
06:17Josh Joseph is flashing more than Sonny so far.
06:21But, again, Sonny's a freak athlete.
06:24Comes from good stock.
06:25Great person.
06:26Great college.
06:27Everything's in his favor.
06:28You assume he'll figure it out.
06:30And I would probably bet on that.
06:32It's not about the preseason, but I'm curious if people are starting to worry about his play.
06:361-800-636-1067.
06:39It'll be 50-50.
06:41Half the fans will be worried that he hasn't made any plays.
06:44I think most fans will still be.
06:45He's been out there for 20 seconds.
06:46You don't want to be the first one.
06:48It's more than 20 seconds, Jason.
06:49It's been three series total.
06:52Okay.
06:52Three.
06:53Yeah.
06:53In two games.
06:54You don't want to just be out there attacking him when he's barely played.
06:58Right.
06:58So you're probably not going to have too many people say that they're worried.
07:01But you might have a drop-off this year from what Bobby Wagner was giving you consistently
07:07to what Sonny may give you this year.
07:09He may be a superstar in two years.
07:10J.P., Bobby Wagner is going to the Hall of Fame.
07:12I know, but people were so quick to bail on him.
07:15That's unfair to compare him to Bobby Wagner right now.
07:18That Sonny Stiles isn't going to be a liability in coverage like Bobby Wagner was at the end
07:23of his career.
07:24I don't know how you can quantify that.
07:26I think he looks pretty smooth there in coverage.
07:28He's very good in coverage.
07:29He's pretty smooth.
07:30Which is part of the reason he went number seven overall.
07:3217 plays.
07:34I think it's been 17 plays.
07:36I think it's been more than that.
07:38Oh.
07:38I don't think so.
07:38I also, he hasn't recorded a tackle, has he?
07:41Yeah, he had one in this game.
07:43He's had like assists.
07:45I think he had one in this.
07:46He had one listed tackle in the Lions game.
07:49But see, if he had botched the play that Josh Josephs did, right?
07:54He would be getting killed.
07:57Destroyed.
07:58Destroyed.
07:59I totally agree.
08:00But no one's saying anything about Josephs.
08:02No, people noticed it.
08:02No, Josephs is not the first round pick.
08:03People noticed it.
08:04People noticed that Josh Josephs botched it.
08:07But Josh Josephs also had a fumble recovery.
08:09Josh Josephs also has pressure.
08:11You know, Josh Josephs has flashed more.
08:13That's bottom line.
08:14But that's fine.
08:15I think he'll be fine.
08:17He's got all the pedigree.
08:18I would agree with you.
08:19He hasn't given you anything, but he's only been out there for 20 plays.
08:22He's going to need a big week one from Sonny Stiles.
08:24I mean, he's going to be out there for an entire game in week one.
08:26Put it this way.
08:27He's still in the learning curve phase very much.
08:29For sure.
08:30And then once he's going against starters and other opposing coaches are kind of gearing
08:34to his negative plays, I just think it's just way too early to kill him after 17 to
08:4220 plays in the preseason.
08:44I think that's right.
08:45But I understand that that faction is out there.
08:48Well, it's going to happen with anybody that's your first round pick.
08:50Yes.
08:51Anybody, any top 10 pick, any position, the eyeballs are going to be on you.
08:55No matter what position.
08:56The poll of the day is whether you're still optimistic or are you worried, two choices
09:02about the commanders right now after two preseason games.
09:06And one of the responses was worried about Sonny Stiles.
09:09I think it's fair.
09:10Too early to worry about Sonny Stiles.
09:12You have zero worry.
09:13If you're a month in.
09:14You have zero worry.
09:16Very little worry.
09:17Okay, little worry is different than zero.
09:18I would be worried more, much more about the center position than Sonny Stiles.
09:23Oh, that is very concerning.
09:24I think, yeah.
09:25I think they'll figure that out.
09:26I mean, first of all, you're relying on a guy in Allegretti who I believe has four starts
09:30at center in his career prior to this year.
09:32Now, he's got other starts in the interior line at guard, but doesn't have a ton of experience
09:38at center.
09:38He got rid of Biotis, who, by the way, side note on him, terrible story.
09:42He's done for the year.
09:43Done for the year.
09:44Season-ending IR from his injury for the Chargers.
09:47That sucks.
09:49Yeah.
09:49There's concern about the interior of the commander's offensive line.
09:53Let's go to Mo in Largo.
09:56Mo, what's up, buddy?
09:58Are you worried?
09:59Good morning, gentlemen.
10:00Thank you for taking my call.
10:02Absolutely.
10:03Absolutely.
10:04I mean, the shortest distance for the quarterback is through the center, and our starter is hurt,
10:10and the backup has no experience.
10:13We lost our left tackle.
10:15I mean, our inadequacy right now is a tremendous liability because he jeopardizes our most valuable
10:23asset.
10:24So, yeah, I'm worried, man.
10:27I mean, I like the defense and everything.
10:29You know, I see some talent emerging around the offense, but without the offensive line,
10:35I don't know how anything gets started.
10:38And not to mention, we're lacking the personnel and continuity.
10:42So, just to assume that the weapons will be able to make the most of their abilities
10:47is kind of a false, you know, optimism because if the line can't block, there's no time for
10:54the play to develop, and we just get Jaden scrambling around again.
10:59And so, I'm going to remain worried because usually when I'm overly confident, we come
11:05out looking like trash.
11:06So, yeah, I'll just be worried, and hopefully things will become positive.
11:11Thank you, gentlemen.
11:12Well, it also really sucks that as they're trying to figure out, and I do think all teams
11:16have weaknesses.
11:17They have to scheme around whatever they are.
11:18No team's perfect.
11:20So, this is our weakness.
11:22It's going to take a while to figure it out, probably.
11:24Well, it doesn't help that the first three games are brutal.
11:27It does not help.
11:28And think about it.
11:29The defensive tackles for Philly are studs.
11:32Yeah, they are monsters.
11:33And if they're going to go against a banged-up Allegretti or a backup center, that's going
11:37to get ugly real quick.
11:39That could get really ugly.
11:40The only thing you can hope for is maybe just Philly is a disaster offensively, just kind
11:44of falling apart, you know.
11:45Yeah, I mean.
11:46It hurts on another OC.
11:48He may be shook a little bit.
11:50He doesn't have agent.
11:51Who knows?
11:53Stephon Diggs, you better be ready for some quick passes from Jake Daniels week one.
11:57Side note, if you want to call in and give us what you're worried about, or maybe even
12:02things that you're taking positives out of the second game.
12:05I thought defensively, it was a big jump, and that was a point of emphasis, so that's
12:09good.
12:10And I do think defensively, they're going to be pretty darn good.
12:12If they can figure out the offensive line, I think we're going to be pretty good offensively,
12:16too.
12:16Hey, Drew Stevens was two for two.
12:18That's right.
12:18Well, his long was 32, I think.
12:21I get it.
12:21It's already made him.
12:22But he was two for two.
12:24You take pauses where you can get them.
12:25You've got to trust that they see something in him, and his personality or whatever, that
12:29he'll be able to handle it.
12:30Tress played.
12:32Tress played.
12:32Yeah.
12:33That's good.
12:33Tress had what, four or five punts?
12:35Four punts.
12:36So while people call in, you can give us what your worries or your concerns and what your
12:40positives are.
12:41There was a side note, and that was just unfairly so.
12:46So our guy, JP Finley, was kind of attacked by some Skins fans, diehards, you know, the
12:52HGTC crowd where you can say nothing negative or you can do nothing that doesn't just tow
12:57the company line.
12:58They were upset that JP did his job and just asked, hey, give him a chance to comment publicly
13:03on the LSU thing.
13:05And people just murdered him.
13:08Oh, yeah.
13:09How is everything going with kind of the fallout with LSU?
13:13Man, I mean, like you said, I posted that, you know, the statement is out, but for me
13:17now, it's really just focused on commander football.
13:20I said everything I had to say within the statement, and now it's really just getting
13:24ready for week one.
13:25And where do you think you guys are?
13:26Look, they both handle that the exact way they should have handled it.
13:30JP has to ask him the question because he has that forum and that platform.
13:34So he asked it, and Jaden deflected it and said, look, I'm focused on playing commander's
13:40football.
13:40I think he could have handled it better.
13:42Who, Jaden?
13:42Yes.
13:43He sidestepped it.
13:44He deflected.
13:45Well, what's wrong with that?
13:46He said nothing wrong with it, but I think he could have been forthright.
13:49Well, it's forthright.
13:50And said, you know, just say, look, I haven't had a chance to talk about it.
13:52He could expand it.
13:53But why would he?
13:54That only opens up the can of worms in.
13:55Just saying.
13:56That just makes it worse.
13:57That's short-sighted thinking on your part.
13:58It'll be a bigger story.
13:59The way he handled it gets rid of it.
14:00Not hiring JP is my PR guy.
14:01I agree with you, JP.
14:03There's the public perception nationally he had a chance to think of it.
14:07Yes.
14:07Yeah, but why?
14:10I'm not giving it any more oxygen.
14:11I just think he could have handled it differently.
14:14But JP was, he did his show with Mitch Tischler after the Lions game.
14:19Yeah.
14:19And JP was upset that.
14:23People were killing him.
14:24Yeah, they were killing him for doing his job.
14:26And he kind of unleashed.
14:28It made me happy.
14:29I wasn't going to even bring this up.
14:31Burger Manners just said, JP Finley just asked Jaden about LSU.
14:34I hate our media.
14:35Well, Burger Manners, here's what you don't know about how journalism actually works.
14:42Jaden, after everything has happened, hasn't spoken to the media, hasn't addressed the media.
14:47This is a national story.
14:48Somebody has to ask him the question.
14:50I was the person here probably with the balls to do so.
14:53So that's why I did it.
14:54And I'm not going to name names, but reporters all over the country and most of the D.C. media
15:01that didn't travel here asked me to ask it.
15:05And Jaden, when he left, dapped me up and said, I know you got to do your job.
15:09So don't speak on what you don't know about.
15:14I mean.
15:15And it was an opportunity for Jaden to say whatever he wanted.
15:18Right.
15:18That's what I was going to say.
15:19I knew he was going to refer to the statement that went exactly how I expected it to.
15:23His focus has been on the commanders.
15:25I don't think he had a whole lot to do with all this LSU nonsense.
15:28And I think all the people piling on on social media are lame.
15:31But like, that's the job, dude.
15:34There's a reason I'm on this field in Detroit and you're not, Burger Manners.
15:38That's a great way to end.
15:39Getting a little fired up here at the end of the preseason game.
15:42I like it.
15:42Hmm.
15:42Burger Manners.
15:43That's the perfect way to end it, J.P.
15:46I thought J.P. did his job.
15:48I did think Jaden had an opportunity to just be a little forthright versus just deflecting it.
15:54What do you mean be forthright?
15:55Just say, look, this is the deal.
15:58Why?
15:58He could almost outline it.
16:00Why?
16:01All that does is open up the can of worms even more.
16:04Potentially.
16:05Like it's already died down.
16:06Some people who've already decided that he is public enemy number one in LSU.
16:12That's fine.
16:12He might win them back.
16:14He doesn't need to.
16:15He doesn't care.
16:15That's fine.
16:15I think he should just forget about it.
16:17Exactly.
16:17He handled it in my opinion.
16:18Go out and worry about your center.
16:19Perfectly.
16:19The worst thing to do is reopen that can of worms.
16:22That would have been the worst thing he could have done.
16:23I don't agree.
16:24I don't agree.
16:25Well, he had to, I mean, he sidestepped it for an entire week.
16:29Yeah.
16:29He could have just said, he could have just said, hey.
16:32You're allowed to sidestep things.
16:33I don't have to comment on anything.
16:35He could have said, look, my focus is on the commanders.
16:37But I want to fill you in that I had to sit down with Brian Kelly after I finished playing
16:43at LSU.
16:43I loved my time at LSU on the Heisman.
16:45And Brian Kelly told me that I was going to retire the number.
16:49Then so-and-so talked to me about it.
16:51And my feelings were a little hurt when they moved on.
16:55And it's too much.
16:56It's way too much.
16:57It would have been the top story on ESPN.com.
17:01It was a 48-hour, 72-hour news story.
17:04It should have been about a one-hour one.
17:05But because nothing was going on.
17:07And now it's dead?
17:08No, no, no, no.
17:10It's not dead because it's already under his resume.
17:16Nationally, when you hear Jay Daniels.
17:18Permanent ink on his resume.
17:19Yes.
17:20It'll never go away, though.
17:21It'll be in his Wikipedia forever.
17:22There's nothing he could say to make that go away.
17:25No, he could have said something.
17:27It could have made LSU look worse in the situation.
17:30That wouldn't help him.
17:31But that wouldn't help him.
17:32It just makes him seem petty.
17:33He handled it.
17:35Listen, I'm telling you, he handled it perfectly.
17:41LSU basically spoke on this more so and better than Jayden did.
17:45And Jayden had the opportunity to-
17:48He can let them have that PR win.
17:51LSU gets the PR win.
17:52I agree.
17:53That's fine.
17:53Let them have it.
17:54But he doesn't care.
17:55And I believe him.
17:56His focus is on football right now.
17:59And you don't need to open that can of worms again.
18:02Coming up next, John Keim on the Commander's second preseason game.
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