00:00all right david couple of texts and then stoney's gonna get loose on this roger goodell stuff it's
00:06just maybe maybe it's a case of stoney and i being out of touch totally willing to accept that but
00:14i
00:14don't think so but we'll get into it david a couple of texts as we get going here someone says
00:19fax
00:19machines doctor's offices still use them that is mark and pinkney uh usually you'll get a phone
00:25book or yellow pages if you still have a landline we do not have a landline we finally disconnected
00:31it so that's interesting maybe the number you use to call to get movie times or even the time
00:37itself oh yes i remember that movie phone well the the time was ridiculous you'd call this number
00:44i think it was like in philly it was like ti61212 at this at the sound of the beep it
00:49is 3 45 and 40
00:52seconds beep then 10 seconds later at the sign of the tone it is 3 40 and no that's the
00:59said they
00:59set up one of those lines for michigan's regents to get updates on the uh report list report yes
01:04exactly press three for scandal results press four for odyssey showtimes david weather well they had
01:10one for weather too mark and pinkney text in and says you should call this segment let's turn over
01:16another stone something something old school um roger turn over this stone you ready for this
01:23yeah go ahead goodell spoke on the nfl and international cities quote at some point there
01:31will be nfl teams plural outside of the usa he told germany's rtl tv he said regarding the super
01:42bowl there are definitely international cities that could host something like that but we would
01:48like to see an nfl team in such a city first now i have said in the next decade my
01:57belief has been
01:58there will be a global division of the nfl you will have four teams in europe yeah probably and you'll
02:06probably see the franchise fee be something to the tune of 12 to 15 billion per team do the math
02:15i don't agree with any of this i think it is beyond the pale and and i get it well
02:21it's a global thing
02:22this is an american sport that has a global audience we have plenty of teams you know you can
02:28basically you know finance nfl europe and have their league run separate for those players who
02:37either want to go there or aren't good enough to play in the nfl have your own freaking league over
02:42there i mean they had it you remember nfl europe was you know the rhine fire and all that barcelona
02:49dragons yes exactly nice helmets but anyway look the question is every call it let's say month every
02:58month you read something about the nfl continuing to push the rev limiter continuing to try to take
03:06up more of your calendar spread out more of their games away from sunday certainly away from 1 p.m
03:12and
03:124 p.m and now you have the commissioner not even hiding it they are going to have teams outside
03:19of the
03:19united states i think it'll end up being europe and i just i want to know from you guys because
03:24i i and
03:26mike take it wherever you want to go i think they're killing the golden goose their built-in
03:31advantage was games were on sunday a day where a majority of people do not work and you were captive
03:37you were home it was one o'clock and four o'clock and a night game yeah easy but what
03:43they're doing
03:44now you're already seeing it with the international program how many sundays is a fan base losing a home
03:51game and playing at 9 a.m now it's a dozen and and you're seeing more of this to where
04:00i i think
04:01long term they're hurting the product it's just and you know how they'll ram this through the nfl pa
04:08is going to be handed a piece of paper it's going to have a really big number on it that
04:12if we do this
04:13expansion the share for the players and what it'll do to the salary cap and a 60 let's call it
04:2050 to 60
04:21billion dollar cash infusion to the league plus that's before we talk about their tv rights coming
04:28up in 2029 and everyone's waiting with bated breath how much do you want to bet they'll have this
04:36announcement baked into those negotiations absolutely so the whole thing is players don't want to do it
04:43but they'll end up doing it but you as a fan especially since the nfl players association is
04:48the worst union in professional sports it's it's spine i mean talk to john and tj about it they'll
04:54spine it's awful i mean so they'll get they'll have the players get this but they won't give them
04:59like lifetime health care and all the other stuff and they won't spend the money on fixing the grass
05:03like they did for the world cup i mean the nfl is just so freaking greedy and i hate to
05:08quote
05:08this guy but he was right that in 2014 mark cuban now he went a little overboard when he said
05:17that now this is 2014 i think the nfl is 10 years away from an implosion but he used this
05:24quote and
05:24it's great i'm just telling you pigs get fat hogs get slaughtered and they're getting hoggy
05:30and it's and it's true look i agree with him and i don't it ain't happening tomorrow no it ain't
05:36happening next year but i feel like in real time every decision this league is making there is 0.0
05:43%
05:44consideration for the health of the product correct and for the relationship with fans no none and now
05:51what you're seeing there you want my version of what cuban said in 2014 here's where it ends up
05:57you're a decade away from private equity running your favorite team yeah they are paying you're seeing
06:02teams already do this whether it's the giants or otherwise here's 10 here's 15 here's 7.5 and it's at
06:10a splash evaluation it's going to become more profitable to just sell your team to private
06:17equity and they're going to run it and it's not just going to be football it's going to be every
06:21sport well and that and that's where we lose everything right but i would like to know from
06:26people look we've had the conversation about thursdays and saturdays and wednesday night kickoff
06:32at 9 a.m on sunday are you do you want nfl europe it does this excite you do you
06:40think this makes the
06:40league more interesting are you going to watch more i i would love to talk to meet the people
06:46who would support this i think this is exactly what stoney just brought up regarding the greed
06:51yeah it's all about greed it's it's corporate greed and in my opinion it's ruined this country
06:56how ruining the country the country's not ruined however what you might have is all right here's
07:02the deal we've we've seen it a lot this past couple years where in the tv windows the four o
07:09'clock
07:09are the best games except now there's like two games okay that's that's what they want they want
07:15all eyes on you know no i want six games so what they'll do is now they'll have the europe
07:20games
07:21maybe at the one o'clock window because of the time difference it'll be a night game in europe
07:26and then they'll move some of the one o'clock games and then you'll have your five or six games
07:30maybe that would pacify us what they're trying to do mike is create a four time slot sunday they want
07:38to own sunday from 9 a.m to midnight then they're going to hit you with the monday night double
07:44headers then you're getting a black friday game you're getting thursdays every week you're getting
07:49a wednesday night kickoff you're going to get a game every day in the lead up to christmas you're
07:54going to get games on i think it's too much i've made my opinion known but i want to hear
07:59from the
07:59people less is more i mean it's it's that simple that's what makes the nfl special is you used to
08:05look forward to sunday you waited all week it was it was like that carrie underwood song
08:10we're waiting all week for sunday yes well college football it used to be you wait what's that
08:15saturday okay i understand but now they're having a little bit of you know friday nights and all
08:22that's it's all the same thing now nothing says big 10 like an 11 p.m friday kick in los
08:28angeles oh
08:29i'm telling you tradition ucla northwestern can't wait awful it's absolutely awful 248-539-9797
08:37dave where do you stand on it i mean again you're a football junkie and you have a higher tolerance
08:42for nonsense than i do but when you hear roger goodell say there's going to be multiple teams
08:46overseas i mean what's your reaction to it it's too much it's a sport that i love we absolutely
08:53i love the nfl um and i have been more on the side of liking the 930 game yeah but
09:01it's starting to
09:02become too much you add teams over i can't do that okay 930 games it's bad enough i'll watch it
09:10but a lot
09:10people won't but i'm not going to watch an entire uh entire division over there i'm not going to do
09:18that i just don't need tokyo i don't need germany i don't need a league or teams over there that's
09:23too
09:24much it's starting to become too much and i don't want this sport to be ruined i love the nfl
09:30and i
09:30just don't want it to be ruined and it's on its way to being ruined and that's where i'm at
09:34but surely
09:34no and again guys i i'm not telling you how to feel i'm only telling you how i feel and
09:40i'm in
09:41the nfl it's turning it's turning us away because it is over saturating the market now look you're still
09:49going to watch your team no matter when they play or where they play that's for i think that's factual
09:56i'm not arguing however it's the other team are you going to watch every game because you have a
10:01fantasy you know implication in your game between you know munich and you know lisbon i mean i don't
10:10know how'd you get lisbon i don't know good poll we'll get to the people i want to get more
10:14to
10:14ticket text as well the portuguese water dogs i don't know yeah what is it the hartford yard goats
10:19some minor league teams i i just there comes a point where you it's the line from wolf of wall
10:26street
10:27you already you already made all the money what do you need everybody else's right how much
10:31franchise valuations are already skyrocketed what else do you need when does it all come to a
10:39head well i think it's happening now when look in real time you're asking people to have four five
10:46six eight different apparatuses to watch your sport i think it's happening in real time and and but the
10:53reason is because every live sports and particularly nfl is your highest ranking watched viewed
11:01programs i know that's the reason i know what was it the top 100 things watched on tv 96 were
11:07the nfl
11:07like that yeah it sure as hell wasn't the finale of mash no uh we'll get to the people next
11:1297 one
11:13you
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